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Alternate cryptocurrencies => Altcoin Discussion => Topic started by: enet on June 28, 2016, 11:41:46 AM



Title: A better forum is needed
Post by: enet on June 28, 2016, 11:41:46 AM
I strongly believe the Altcoin community needs better ways to launch, follow and discuss projects. Bitcointalk has no development and innovation behind it, and the Alternative Cryptocurrencies section is only a tag-on to the historically grown bitcoin forum. Another issue is that the quality of development and postings varies greatly. Many talented people are put-off by low quality discussions. However, there is no other venue for discussing Cryptocurrencies, looking for trading and investment opportunities.

The new forum would be targeting: sophisticated developers (Github resume), qualified investors, entrepreneurs, contacts to institutions. As soon as some quality members are there the community will be self-inforcing its quality upwards.

If you're interested in building this, please PM me. I believe I have the knowledge and resources to do this. The question is what are the opportunities here and how the platform will work.


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: haendehochueberfall on June 28, 2016, 12:00:05 PM
This belongs in 'meta' noob. Your argument is invalid since you can't even find the correct section to post it.

People saying it's "low quality" and "too many trolls" are usually scammers trying to sell a scam and are afraid of being exposed. Seen this so often, really.
Here on btctalk is a very good place to find out the good, the bad and the ugly about the shitcoins you hold. Now scammers like OP don't like to read "the bad and the ugly" because then people don't fall for their scams so much.

Go, take your scamcoins, betamale and tell sweet lies to someone else. We like it raw for very good reasons. gtfo.


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: SmirkinPepe on June 28, 2016, 12:03:28 PM
If you make a forum which also lists the users hodlings and their IQ level im in!


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: TravelsAsia on June 28, 2016, 12:07:34 PM
This belongs in 'meta' noob. Your argument is invalid since you can't even find the correct section to post it.

People saying it's "low quality" and "too many trolls" are usually scammers trying to sell a scam and are afraid of being exposed. Seen this so often, really.
Here on btctalk is a very good place to find out the good, the bad and the ugly about the shitcoins you hold. Now scammers like OP don't like to read "the bad and the ugly" because then people don't fall for their scams so much.

Go, take your scamcoins, betamale and tell sweet lies to someone else. We like it raw. gtfo.

You just made his point.


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: haendehochueberfall on June 28, 2016, 12:09:18 PM
This belongs in 'meta' noob. Your argument is invalid since you can't even find the correct section to post it.

People saying it's "low quality" and "too many trolls" are usually scammers trying to sell a scam and are afraid of being exposed. Seen this so often, really.
Here on btctalk is a very good place to find out the good, the bad and the ugly about the shitcoins you hold. Now scammers like OP don't like to read "the bad and the ugly" because then people don't fall for their scams so much.

Go, take your scamcoins, betamale and tell sweet lies to someone else. We like it raw. gtfo.

You just made his point.
I know, but my point is valid. Outsourcing forum for better censorship has been a red flag in 9 of 10 cases. I watched more than a few thousand coins lauch. I do know.

Also these type of private forums never attract more than a few users. People who don't like it here go on reddit or facebook. Pretty simple.
Whatever. Waste of time-topic.


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: enet on June 28, 2016, 12:12:30 PM
Now scammers like OP don't like to read "the bad and the ugly" because then people don't fall for their scams so much.

Go, take your scamcoins, betamale and tell sweet lies to someone else. We like it raw for very good reasons. gtfo.

QED. e.g. Ethereum was called scam for the longest time. its hard to prevent discussions dropping off to these low levels. the offer is standing. this has nothing to do with censorship - on the contrary, this meant as a decentral effort (the reason I've posted here in the first place, because I have better things to do then convincing people who can't argue their point with proper english language).


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: haendehochueberfall on June 28, 2016, 12:14:09 PM
Now scammers like OP don't like to read "the bad and the ugly" because then people don't fall for their scams so much.

Go, take your scamcoins, betamale and tell sweet lies to someone else. We like it raw for very good reasons. gtfo.

QED. e.g. Ethereum was called scam for the longest time. its hard to prevent discussions dropping off to these low levels. the offer is still standing.

Why did i know you were bagholding eth?  :D
Was it not sold under false promises? Certainly the advertisement was misleading and the presale shad and the market is obviously manipulated.
But i don't expect you to admit to this because your brain probably still compromised from bagholding.


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: enet on June 28, 2016, 12:16:04 PM
Now scammers like OP don't like to read "the bad and the ugly" because then people don't fall for their scams so much.

Go, take your scamcoins, betamale and tell sweet lies to someone else. We like it raw for very good reasons. gtfo.

QED. e.g. Ethereum was called scam for the longest time. its hard to prevent discussions dropping off to these low levels. the offer is still standing.

Why did i know you were bagholding eth?  :D
Was it not sold under false promises?

I never held 1 eth. I spoke with Vitalik in January 2014 and thought the system wouldn't work. I know the people who've started Eth personally. They haven't used the forum much, because its too low quality. Likely the next 1B$ project will not be launched here. I know several people who made millions with the project, and they deserve it. Still some things could have been done better at launch (the distribution was pretty equitable though).


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: haendehochueberfall on June 28, 2016, 12:18:15 PM


I never hold eth. I spoke with Vitalik in January 2014 and thought the system wouldn't work. I know the people who've started Eth personally. They haven't used the forum much, because its too quality. Likely the next 1B$ project will not be launched here.

I know a lot of traders and many won't even bother to look at your next scam if it wasn't announced here. Same with me. I want to hear all opinions on it. If you hide from "the trolls" you have something to hide. There is enough coins here that went past that and are doing fine.
If your coin can survive this forum, then it's a good coin.  

edit: you might have noticed people even trolling the big Bitcoin here. So there's really not a limit. Bitcoin has been called a shitcoin around here too, right? ;)


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: enet on June 28, 2016, 12:29:58 PM
If you make a forum which also lists the users hodlings and their IQ level im in!

Trust-ratings can be done on-chain. The forum should integrate with blockchains. BTT looks like its from the 90's. Likely it would be sth like discourse.org, flarum.org or forum written from scratch (no PHP hopefully).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: Spoetnik on June 28, 2016, 03:20:52 PM
If you were here when i started you would be stuck in the noob-jail.. NOOB

"investment opportunities" ? ROFL

..gimme a break.

Get a job kid rather than spouting off what has been said 1,000's of times.
There are and always has been "other forums" go over there and stop with the stupid whining.

Reality is if you post your scam coin on a scam forum you deserve what ever "FUD' you get.
And when your coins existence hinge on scam forum commentary you have a problem.
Take away the "investment opportunities" scam forum spam & hype greed shit
and then what do you have ?
Nothing.. but coin #2,343 on Poloniex

And yeah Bitcoin has been bad mouthed but at least it is a CURRENCY
..unlike ICO coin schemes.
And it is actually used as one too unlike ALL altcoins.
So your comparison earlier was retarded.  ::)


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: haendehochueberfall on June 28, 2016, 03:27:05 PM
Security of your forum is likely the first issue you run into. That's also the reason this looks like back from the 90s i'd guess. Just more secure.

Also if you can't find a "quality discussion" anywhere i don't think that's the forums fault. Did you even notice how fuckin' huge this place is?

Hanging out in altsection and complaining avbout "the forum" is retarded. If you can code so well let your blockchain speak. Oh, right you won't launch here because people would find your hidden premine in 10 minutes. Got it.


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: From Above on June 28, 2016, 04:11:46 PM
The world is wonderful.  If u want the better forum u can have a vision of what that's supposed to be and then you can implement it urself, partake in the open source software development.  

Also if u want a truly better behavior in dem forumz then u gotta make the first step and be what u hope to see urself.  If u can do that it will do good upon everyone and urself.

~CfA~


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: Xenoph0bia on June 28, 2016, 04:28:13 PM
I don't think so, bitcointalk is one of the best forum as we have  all the latest updates, news and discussion related to cryptocurrency. Here we can discuss and share our views related to altcoins as well and I believe one forum is enough for all cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: From Above on June 28, 2016, 04:30:53 PM
I don't think so, bitcointalk is one of the best forum as we have  all the latest updates, news and discussion related to cryptocurrency. Here we can discuss and share our views related to altcoins as well and I believe one forum is enough for all cryptocurrencies.

Bitcointalk is a very nice forum cuz of the many different trades of peoples that come to this forum to partake in the Bitcoin phenomenon and everything that springs from that source.

It is both refreshing and depressive at the same time.  A very very good forum.

~CfA~


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on June 28, 2016, 04:30:56 PM
I like the simplicity of this forum.  I don't think adding any amount of sophistication to it will dramatically increase quality or improve upon it to any great degree.  Not to say some things couldn't use improvements.   But this forum is pretty good as is.


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: From Above on June 28, 2016, 04:33:22 PM
I like the simplicity of this forum.  I don't think adding any amount of sophistication to it will dramatically increase quality or improve upon it to any great degree.  Not to say some things couldn't use improvements.   But this forum is pretty good as is.

Yes I can only agree with the pharmacist here. He has had many mind enhancing medicines in his cabinet to know what he writes there. It is a pretty good forum if u know how to navigate it. If u ride it well it's the oasis of the information but if u r trodding the troll path then it will take u to the hell of boredom. So be smart guys and indulge urselves in the education. Good things r out there to be found.

~CfA~


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: Spoetnik on June 29, 2016, 03:16:26 AM
I don't think so, bitcointalk is one of the best forum as we have  all the latest updates, news and discussion related to cryptocurrency. Here we can discuss and share our views related to altcoins as well and I believe one forum is enough for all cryptocurrencies.

WHY ?

Why do i have to point it out to you all here all the time ?

Because long ago in the spirit of openness / freedom / decentralization etc
theymos provided a Forum for us to all get together to talk etc.
WITH VERY LIBERAL FREEDOMS !

I have long said this is a scam forum (because there is no rule saying your not allowed to post them)
BUT !
I have never really tried to harp that makes theymos a planned scam platform provider or some shit.
He afforded us the privilege of having a place to speak freely
and we collectively took the opportunity.. and ABUSED IT !

It is not theymos posting 1,000's of shitty scammy ponzi coins for profit.
It's us !

So you want to make / use another forum huh ?
And you said there needs to be "improvements ?"
I'll play along with the obvious..

Who are you going to hire and pay a wage to to moderate this "other" forum ?
In case you did not notice there is 6,000 ANN topics all of which would need code review.
To see if they were scammy.. For starters (a lot more moderating is suggested by the OP)

Wrap your head around this and.. Who is going to do the "work"

Quote
Total Members:    854717
Total Posts:    15360751
Total Topics:    578873
Total Categories:    6
Users Online:    2038
Most Online:    7150 - April 10, 2013, 11:12:15 AM
Online Today:    0
Total page views:    295481614

Average registrations per day:    359.66
Average posts per day:    6361.31
Average topics per day:    288.41
Total Boards:    210
Latest Member:    andrewswang
Average online per day:    249.57
Male to Female Ratio:    3.9:1
Average page views per day:    1222513.92

..yeah almost 1 MILLION accounts here now.

And..
Who is doing this work ? https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php
And who is handling security on your new site like on this page ?
https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: BellaBitBit on June 29, 2016, 03:26:40 AM
Many of your points are valid but there is no other forum like this one.  This is the center of the universe for bitcoin and alts.


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: Spoetnik on June 29, 2016, 05:38:27 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats

Total Members = 854,717
Users Online    =    2,038

Ethereum Market cap ? 1 Billion dollars $ ? really ?
WOW i guess all 2,038 online users here spent their entire life savings on ETH huh ?
or..


Title: Re: A better forum is needed
Post by: enet on June 29, 2016, 08:00:42 AM
Many of your points are valid but there is no other forum like this one.  This is the center of the universe for bitcoin and alts.

Yes, nobody can argue with that. I guess at present people don't see an advantage of something new, as long as it does not exist. Better quality can be achieved by simply starting something new and setting the culture in a different direction. Deep discussion about the actual technology and its use is quite rare.