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Looking at the graphs, it seems that ETH is dropping rapidly.

Why is that?

It's no surprise really.  The DAO was attacked and lost quite a lot of ETH funds.  I'm more suprised as to why the price has not fallen even more right after the attack.  But a lot of people (me included) speculate that it's the insiders of Ethereum that are trying to support and maintain the price after the big recent dump.  And they should in order to protect their whole investment in the platform.  But how long could that really last?

I mentioned a possible short opportunity coming just a while ago in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045967.msg15394832#msg15394832

It's because price would already be through the basement if it wasn't supported artificially after the last dump (look at the unnatural sideways -action with no volatility of last week). The marketmanipulation was obvious and now is maybe coming to an end.
Sorry for your loss. If you didn't identify the market as heavily rigged you shouldn't trade alts. Still time to get an exit ...

And lots of alt coins drops when btc rises. I wonder where eth will be in a few weeks...

might be this

http://hackingdistributed.com/2016/06/28/ethereum-soft-fork-dos-vector/

eth is really moving strange during the last weeks. if you don't have time to make your own investigations then it is better to stay out.

fortunately i was able to sell at good price and now i am just holding and forgetting about the rest on my eth.

Hot money exiting ETH, jumping on NXT, NEM.

We know that this is not the case with ETH. Both BTC and ETH had a bull run some time back.
Plus bitcoin isn't rising rapidly now.

so for you 0.002 drop is "dropping rapidly" lol, isn't it just 10%, to me it look like a market activity, it is dumping after buying cheap when the dao made the price crash to a very low level, i don't remember if it was 0.0014 or lower

An 8% drop does look out of place when Bitcoin has moved in the opposite direction (+2%).
More than profit booking, I think the drop has something to do with the softfork being debated.

We all know it's useless and we all know people are in it for profit.
So it has to have up's & down's and in this case it also has extreme manipulation.
We all see it !

SO i think it has more to do with what the do the manipulators want to do ?
Users follow along whales eating crumbs.. you are irrelevant.

If the big guys want slaughter the cow to eat it they will.
But it's more profitable to drag it out as long as possible
with random DUMPING.

They are making a monumental fortune on this ICO scheme..
while you all do the work defending it for the crumbs they throw at your feet.
You better hope you support of ETH is a wise & healthy decision for yourself
and all of Crypto !

Selling out for chump change profits is not too classy guys.
..or smart.

Possible Ddos the softfork. They're tripping every step on the way now. They can't even get their blockchain censorship out the door without a fuckup  ::)

http://hackingdistributed.com/2016/06/28/ethereum-soft-fork-dos-vector/

People are selling eth to get into other ico sales.

I didn't buy any ETH, so I am not affected by this. I was just wondering why it dropped.

lol.  you want to trust an unproven platform or one that's innovating and learning from its mistakes?  thanks for the buy opportunity, kids.

Might be a hard fork coming. And coins that have done hard forks have historically had their prices hammered. Sadly.

Messing up the soft fork does seem pretty amatuer hour.

I am amazed that so many people are happy to invest large amounts of money in something that is consistently being shown to be flawed and/or a scam.

Ah, the Polowhale. That entity can't be doing too healthily. :D



It's laughably amateur, but only the slow decay of price will break the spell for some folk.

What ETH current situation looks like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbv5B71KmkA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbv5B71KmkA)

We know who is laughing.. V. Butterin (after he said he dumped on you all before)



Of Ethereum ? Now i am the one laughing  :D



Where ? name one.



For what ? profit ?
I thought we were here for currencies.
(not scammy ICO schemes)



Who is ? ..Seems they are NOT learning to me.



Ya sure no problem.. your welcome.. moar cheap coinz 4 U nom nom nom hodl babies  :D

https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/06/28/security-alert-dos-vulnerability-in-the-soft-fork/

backpaddling on softfork. They can't even deploy that.

It is that. There's lots of hope riding on the soft fork (and a later hard fork) successfully going through.

Same here, I did not expect it to rebound like it did. I figured it would go the way of other shitcoins and approach 1 sat.  But ethhas a dedicated userbase.  For now.  Or perhaps it's a whale keeping it afloat.   For now.  Looks like it's in danger though.

It was a nice idea: Create a network that can run DAPPS and smart contracts via a blackchain. However, it is abundantly clear that the Ethereum Foundation is just not capable of cramming this square peg into a round hole. I would recommend anyone wanting to get involved in ETH right now, use it for it's true purpose:  make a quick buck. Short this shit to the grave, so we can all move on.

Half the current price would be a good place to start....

Erm no. Did you even bother to read the article? The worst case scenario in the eth blockchain processing transactions slower than normal with empty blocks until the code is patched. Definitely a gud time to buy while the price has dropped slightly over the usual scaremongering from the ETH haters.

Wow, wasting electricity on invalid transactions seems like such a good option. Guess the miners don't care, as long as they get their reward. Time to milk this cow for as much as it's worth before it's slaughtered. :D

A lot of gums flapping about the support from the "community"  ::)
Only problem is there is barely any users sucking it dry for profit (a psuedo-community)

So the reality is a Billion dollar MarketCap "coin" who was caught red-handed..
on LAUNCH DAY manipulating the coin on a large scale.. is STILL doing it in 2016.

I have been watching the ETH price since the hack 12 days ago when it was just over $20 roughly.
And the super mega weird part is for some inexplicable strange reason
when ever ETH hits $12 the price goes right back up !

With all the dumping that went on today i watched it do that over & over..
And not just today either.. ever since the hack / attack.

That is an arbitrary number for seemingly no real reason.
Or is it ?

What we see is the guys who rigged the scam in 2014 crunched the numbers.
They know what they are doing as they dump & bleed it for profits..
They are avoiding doing it too much so shithead loser ICO twats crap their pants.

They are dumping it down as hard as they can while teetering on the edge
of causing investard panic.

You mETH heads are being milked and i have seen it many times here over the years.
..nothing new.

I agree with the other guy, i can't wait until we can move on from this scammy ass bullshit.
You guys get sick of hearing about Smart Contracts crowd sales and APP's Ethereum yet ?
HEY !
I got an idea.. let's make a CURRENCY  ::)

PS:
Minecache is a FRAUD .

I was a bit snarky in my last post and I apologize for that.  I thought your response to my post was funny and I enjoyed it.

I think we disagree though about what we want out of Ethereum.  I want a versatile and stable decentralized application platform *more* than I want the line in the chart to go up and to the right.  Versatile meaning can't use some lispy language for writing smart contracts, and stable meaning has been through the wringer a couple times.  Unfortunately, the process of going through the wringer happens at the expense of people who bought into Ethereum the crypto currency (which to me is just a means to a more desirable end).  In light of this, I think a lot of investors bought in to Ethereum very early and while I think that might be both good and bad for the people behind Ethereum, the technology is open source and improving, so the technology is only benefiting from all of this.

In summary: Will the price of ETH rebound and grow to be a good investment opportunity?  I honestly don't care.  Will the resulting technology have profound value to humanity?  You bet your ass it will.

@mikeymg2
Well ETH launched in 2014.. no one cared and many called it a scam.
Why is it 2 years after you all want DAPPS (so you say) ?

You all made them rich beyond belief.. they paid a small portion of what they are worth now in 2014.
It was fishy that the minute the ICO went off it was being bought up
by a massive whale moving tons of them in giant equal chunks.. a dead give away !

Anyway if you all wanted this concept why did no one give a shit since 2014 ?
Why is it no one cared until it get super hyped / spammed then pumped in 2016 ?
Make any sense ?

I see no NEED for an "APP's" platform ..that runs on a block-chain (that has an ICO token tacked on)
The whole concept to me sounds like guys ran out of coin cloning gimmicks
and thought hey .. i KNOW !
"Smart contracts"

Who is using them vs how many people are watching prices on Poloniex etc ? 99 to 1 ?

Mikey you *may* be the only one with that desire LOL
Me ? I am interested in Currencies ..not "schemes" integrated into block chains.

Look at the reality of it all.. 2014 until now.
Someone rich bought up the ICO later we seen hype that had to be coordinated.
..someone was writing those Coindesk stories since 2014 and hyping this place with spam + reddit  + pm's etc
That was not all accidental.
THEN we see a pump group who managed to push an ICO coin to $20 each and a billion market cap.
The altcoin users sure as hell did not do that..
because they did not get interested until AFTER the price manipulation.

Then we seen Butterin saying publicly he dumped 25% of his "holdings"
Where did he get them ?
ICO launch day ? you bet your ass LOL

Then.. they mysteriously get hacked for a sick of amount of money ? Really ? LOL
Like at what point do you guys see all this and think hmmmm ?
Those heavy ETH bags your clutching make your blind ?
It does !
You all don't care how scammy things are as long as you can ride the train from $1 to $21 and profit.
And then you get what you deserve... karma is a bitch !
..enjoy your DAPPS ahhahah