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Hardfork: people get their eth back, dump it on the market to get the fuck out of this mess, price crashes.

No hardfork: attacker collects 3mil+ eth, dumps it on the market to get Actual Money, price crashes.

The chart going up is just pure propaganda.

Hahaha, I have to agree with you. The damage that is done made a big hole into the confidence of the people.

I wouldn't be surprised if ETH doesn't go back up, but you'll never know.

The most manipulated scamcoin ever seen in cryptocurrency strikes again.  Even Bobsurplus coins were a more aggregate market.

I think it is the misinformation. With soft fork, the attacker will not get the 3 million coins. neither will the DAO owners.

What softfork?

Heh so true

Even after the news about hard fork going to happen price is still up, i think this is done with purpose of dumping  whatever coin they can at this high prices. I am sure hard fork will just make ETH really a shit and people will lost their trust over eth foundation. DAO messed up ETH, what a luck eth foundation have.  LOL

The risks outweigh the gains. at a fifty million dollar market cap then i'd certainly go for it. i can't see enough upside beyond the current level no matter what problems they solve.

DOA hack is causing a butterfly-effect that's out of control. People will notice later.

Sitting here and lmao at these green candles. What a moronic pumpery. Next leg down will be violent.

THIS

is really saying something.

Come ye youngins and I will tell you a tale of the shit fucks we used to have... Come, sit on my lap and I will tell you a tale of golden times. Oh those were the days. One man scam crews were a walk in the park compared to the steroids scam machine that masquerades as bitcointalk these days. The villains of our time pale in comparison to the skullfuckery going on writ large on the front page of the alt section.

In all serousness, alt 'coins' as a whole should wither up and fucking die.

this is a disgrace to what cryptocoins in general represent. We all should feel ashamed of ourselves for even participating in this tsunami of wealth transfer.

Remember:

ETH is a PRE-MINED coin, ultra manipuled by whales

ETH is a PUMP AND DUMP coin, made only to pump and dump and make some whales rich fast like a rain

ETH is a PRE-MINED SCAM COIN

Only retards to buy this pre-mined trash.

A lot of tinfoil here.. Ethereum will survive. It will lose legitimacy. People understand smart contracts needs to be thoroughly researched for years before they can do anything "fun" with it.


But the larger holders of Ethereum won't let it die. I wouldn't short ETH ever because ETH whales are coordinated bulls. And if you believe some nefarious plan then my bet is that it is to push up the price and create a Dao to transfer the wealth through different schemes. Not necessarily illegally.

Is it just me or have all the Bitcoin-Xt-zombies migrated to ETH and spouting the same braindead BS in their eth-reddit now?
XT-fan-homebase is pretty silent and the same stupid nonsense arguments pop up on the ETH.
These people are a fail. What are they even doing in crypto?
Steer clear from them. Everything they touch turns to sheit because they're only in it because of money and nothing else.

Let them fail with their gavin in the eth-fiasco and don't welcome them back to bitcoin!

After the hard fork the price will go up because everything will be back to normal. Even the average fudders know this, so they ll keep trying fudding hoping their fud actually matters and more people will dump to drop the price. They are small fish and they dont know it.

what's your definition of normal? whatever fork happens, it's gonna be extremely hard to argue that it's a good thing in the long term however you wanna look at it. still, that ain't gonna stop the trading.

Well lets look at what happened: a hacker found a loop hole in a contract and exploited it. Not only that he stole some money, but it could affect the future of the project but letting an ill intented hacker having up to 14% of ethereum total tokens would put the project at risk. What signal would give this to the future projects made on ethereum ? You want to bring blockchain and contracts into mainstream but then you show investors / companies no support at all ? They cannot embrace a new technology with a whole new bag of risks that comes with it if they get no support. Ethereum is still beta / developing and showing potential investors / companies that the project / miners / stakers would back them up by voting  if something like this happens, especially in beta mode.
Hard fork is not a bad thing unless theres no consensus. This is not bitcoin china where 95% of the hashrate is controled by 10 people, with 2 of them controlling 50%, to argue that the consensus consists of 3-4 people's interest. It consists of thousands of people/miners interest, and their interest is for the project to succeed.
Yes, what happened was bad, especially short them, and theres a very small risk it could kill the project. But if it survives, and 99% will, it will become stronger.
Ofc there are alot of fear mongers, some of them bitcoin maximalist who fear ethereum, some shorters who were hoping it would go to 1$, hoping to  make a 10x profit and now are desperate because the price actually holds.

Looks like there are same result so i think its better to don;t invest or buy bitcoin so that you may not lose your money.. better to buy bitcoin instead to make more profit after block halving..

What profit after bitcoin halving ? Everyone invested for " halving" since it was 200$. Now its almost 700, theres really no room  for it to increase anymore. From now on, after the halving it can either drop to 2-3-400 or increase to 8-900, i think if you invest now in bitcoin your risk to lose is higher than the risk to gain. And you simply cannot invest enought to make a signifiant profit. Because thats why we are all in crypto, for profit.

Well, gentlemen the market (usually) doesn't lie, and eth is getting railed up the diarrhea corridor by the same African boys that got it to 0.022 in the first place.  Now if you ask me,  it should be flushed all the way down to where the other shit is--all the one satoshi garbage.   I'm truly surprised that it's this tenacious.

It's not doing that well as of now. Below 0.018 as I write.

You got that right. I predicted a much earlier end to Eth but it hangs in there. I guess it should have been expected considering the amount of money that was pumped into it. Even after this last drama with DAO(which should read DOA), eth price has dropped and is dropping but not like the stone it should be. Must be some deep pockets involved.

I checked out some of page one and agree with most of you.. and the OP !

@billotronic
That right there was Top-Shelf "FUD" bro  ;D
I think you training for the FUD Olympics coming in 3 years by the looks of it.
A "Legendary" comment ;)

YES those old villians are nothing to what we see now.
It's basically a coordinated attack / spam hype campaign vs the users these days.
"Groups" with an agenda simply try and come here and out post count the FUD.
Run ANY scam imaginable then try and over power it with a sheer volume of positive comments.
..even if each one sounds stupid they bump you away etc..

A game that grows worse in time i think.

BitcoinEXpress said recently.. naw it's always been that was we just have MORE scammers.
I sort of agree but not really LOL
The methods and scale are different !

A bit more on-topic though..
I have watched the price and there looks to me (in my own humble opinion)
To be a group with money hanging around propping up the coin..
When ever it gets dumped on it seems to have been pumped back up to
a hair just a over $12 (like that is where they want a wall setup)
This has been happening ever since "the attack"
And screams colossal manipulation.. in a bad way !
We are also talking about a coin they brag that has a BILLION dollar MarketCap
so.. it's not like some guy with 4 grand in BTC is moving the coin around.
This is BIG TIME manipulation we see going on !

Besides think about this traders..
If a coin got bad news and tanked YOU SHOULD be able to buy cheap coins fairly.
A massive group in hiding manipulating the coin like i just said
is robbing you of the opportunity to buy in low (if you chose to do so)
So really its not very fair even if you want to defend that bullshit.

So yes the "market does lie" contrary to guy saying it earlier ;)

Sorry for being off topic but your username, and especially your profile picture, gave me a major case of the giggles ;D

Alot of these Ethereum Maximalist are going around and telling people to buy that crap, because they believe that it is the "perfect" time to buy.

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Now is not the perfect time to buy. We should wait after the hard fork to see the effect on the price.

What if the buyers are right and we are the fools for not buying in now ? anything can happen in crypto world and maybe the hard fork will prove that the community is strong.

After the hard fork the price will go up because everything will be back to normal. Becose ETH is a PRE-MINED coin, ultra manipuled by whales.

Ethereum is long term project, HF will show the power of community. I think price will go up after the Hard Fork

wait what did just happen? i'm confused; "better to don;t invest or buy bitcoin" or "better to buy bitcoin instead to make more profit?"


@op it is still not a good time to buy eth; i wonder when it actually was tho!
its gonna take a looong time for eth to recover (if it ever does!) no rush tho, we'll all be around & see what'll happen!

It seems someone is trying to unload their ETH before 'supporting' the market because the hard fork. Whales does not want the price to collapse now as they have not finished selling. The ETH market looks calm but it won't be so after the 'floodgate' is released.

ok , preparing to buy more ETH fast

i am not so sure about that anymore. because people have lost faith in ethereum and nobody will really invest any money into it anymore. and whales can throw their money at it as much as they want but the rise will never be the same and everyone is only looking for a way out.

You might be right. But why are people still investing in the mining equipment to mine the Etheruem?

This is not the best time to buy ethereum its boring but its better to buy tools for mining ethereum because according for other miners ethereum are still profitable using gpu..

Ethereum mining cost money and energy and efforts. When the Ethereum price drops a lot, you cannot get ROI.

Yes, have to agree. It's so close to this fork foolishness you would have to be pretty brave to commit now, before it actually happens. I will say the price has been unreasonably stable, despite the news. Its been hovering around 10.50 ish for a while now despite the news subsequent the hack, surely it can only go down?

You're right, buying ETH is retarded right now.

I'll be happy to take all your ETH at 1sat/1ETH

PM me and let's do it.

I can buy all the Eth at 100 Satoshi/Eth. That will make you 100 times profit instantly. So let us do it.

I think he is just trolling. Do not take him too seriously. There are too many trolls for the Ethereum.

Let us put this on a row:

- ethereum is in beta test mode, so anything goes.  Is this the place to have projects with a crowd funding of hundreds of millions ?

- a single person having up to 14% of ethereum is visibly a problem, then why was a single project (the DAO) a few times larger ?

- the value proposition of ethereum and smart contracts was "the code is the law" but it isn't because you have too much money invested in a too big to fail project IN BETA TEST MODE ?

So then you guys "voted" to put a funny hack in the code to do away with "the code is the law", and to do away with the "immutability of the chain", which were exactly the two value propositions of ethereum.

Instead of the dictate of democracy where a majority imposes its will (especially its will to kill the basic tenets on which the system is supposed to be build), a fork is way, way better: those that go with "too big to fail and bailout" have ETH, and those that want to stick with "the code is the law" and immutability have ETC.  Everyone happy.

ETH have large capital behind, ~ 18 millions USD. Which other altcoin have such a capital ? So if you know really ETH market, you can buy now and sale later.  ;D

Why do you say that? The ETH has about $1billion market cap the moment. much more than $18 million.

I can see why you think it was a troll but I am/was dead serious about the offer of 1sat/1ETH for anyone's ETH

If you are serious about the offer one 1 satosh/ETH, you should sell at 10000 Satosh/ETH to others and buy back cheaper.

I will buy the ETH at 100,000 satosh. But it seems nobody is selling at that price in the market at present.

I am purchasing more and more ETH as its the only real Ethereum coin with serious financial backers and developers. ETC criminal coin os simply for crooks and thieves.

The best move i make so far, expect to buy ETH early (.005) was to play with ETC pump and all the profit go back to ETH  8)

It's the best way to play this long game. Gud on you Sir.

Thank you ! :)
I dont know if it was luck or wisdom but i treated to ETH like i would treat  BTC back on 2009 *sigh*  8)

I agree. How can a coin that can hard fork at any moment be a safe investment?

Dont you see that as soon as DAO 2.0 happens they will bailout again? Its a joke.

After the ETH become PoS, there is no way it can do a hard fork easily. You should buy more ETC if you do not like ETH.

I don't understand how this is the case. In fact it should be easier, since a couple of whale holders could move the balance where they want to.

So whats the explanation for why ETH is still doing well guys? A hard fork does not mean people have to get fucked over or that either ETH or ETC are a scam. I say it looked sketchy but it seems to be leveling out. The DAO hacker will not necessarily dump all his coins and murder the coin when seeping it out slowly whiles the value remains high may be much more profitable. it either case for both coins no reason to panic necessarily.

Yeah, maybe some false threats to promote other coin maybe ? Or they are just ETC or ETH haters. Hahah :D I was reading diverse comments and posts about ETC and ETH. Some are frustrated and there are many accusations being told about that coin. And some are good testimonies. I don't know where to side the fact that I am not fun of ETC or ETH. So, its up to you to see what is the reality of this coin.

honestly I would have sold half my stock and bought etc. smartest move, but people panic cause they've been screwed so many times there will always be those who jump right away.

Retarded or not I'm still buying ETH while waiting for the price go up to $20 again.  ;D

see this guy knows

Forget ETH and ETC! The only hard fork I like is for eating pasta!

really sure about your statement sir,too long this coin manupuled price for get more investors

Rather selling now is the retarded move

I do not buy the ETH directly. I will just mine the ETH and keep them for the long term. It is possible that the price will go to $20 to $50.

It's possible my dog will code a better coin but I doubt it. $50 ROTFLMFAO!

I agree with the $50 figure if the ETC is killed completely by the community. Otherwise it is a distraction to ETH.

If the DevCon2 is a great success, it might attract many new investors. The Etheruem price could rise a lot.