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Title: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: hector3115 on June 29, 2016, 08:42:08 PM
Anybody heard anything else about this zerohedge story?

https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/748246224357167106



Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: CoinCidental on June 29, 2016, 09:09:57 PM
If this has happened it may have more effect on btc price rise than the impending  halving....


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: 600watt on June 29, 2016, 09:24:03 PM
If this has happened it may have more effect on btc price rise than the impending  halving....

it would have already because of insider-trading. i donīt think it is happening anytime soon.


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: Ted E. Bare on June 29, 2016, 09:28:09 PM
What about this ETF? It has been in the pipeline for years. I'm ready.


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: CoinCidental on June 29, 2016, 09:30:21 PM
Everyone is ready lol
We've been waiting for years!!!
But I don't think they would keep it secret if they
Finally got the license
They could profit a pile from a the publicity of a big announcement party....


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: European Central Bank on June 29, 2016, 10:33:37 PM
all i can see is an amendment to their application. nothing else has happened. i think they've done it four or five times before. nothing to see here yet but at least it shows they're still quietly working on it.


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: Raimonn on June 29, 2016, 10:50:52 PM
This kind of investing will be the same as GBTC Bitcoin Trust? http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/GBTC/quote
Waiting to see if this announce have any impact on bitcoin prices. Expecting a positive impact movement.


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: European Central Bank on June 29, 2016, 10:57:46 PM
gbtc is very different. it's linked to bitcoin but the price is for shares in the trust, not bitcoin itself and that's why the price has diverged. the winklevoss etf won't do that.


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: Raimonn on June 29, 2016, 11:05:10 PM
gbtc is very different. it's linked to bitcoin but the price is for shares in the trust, not bitcoin itself and that's why the price has diverged. the winklevoss etf won't do that.

ok in this case, will be the same that investing buying bitcoin, but with a financial instrument. This could be interesting for public investors.


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: European Central Bank on June 29, 2016, 11:08:10 PM
yup. if this doesn't inspire more people to come in then i'll be amazed. it removes alot of the stuff that people worry about. 


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: PigUsher on June 29, 2016, 11:40:33 PM
yup. if this doesn't inspire more people to come in then i'll be amazed. it removes alot of the stuff that people worry about. 

Are there ETFs for other currencies? like USD or Euro? Or are ETFs only useful for Chuck E Cheese-grade coins?

Also, would an ETF ETF (ETF indexing performance of all ETFs) track its own performance, or is that asking for trouble?


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: MatTheCat on June 30, 2016, 12:42:49 AM
If this has happened it may have more effect on btc price rise than the impending  halving....

it would have already because of insider-trading. i donīt think it is happening anytime soon.

There is already a Bitcoin ETF....'GBTC' is the symbol. Other than that, I don't know much about it, except that is a low volume scammy p.o.s, that for some inexplicable reason, trades at massive premiums to the actual Bitcoins which are supposed to be backing it...


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: mixan on June 30, 2016, 12:51:10 AM
If this has happened it may have more effect on btc price rise than the impending  halving....

it would have already because of insider-trading. i donīt think it is happening anytime soon.

There is already a Bitcoin ETF....'GBTC' is the symbol. Other than that, I don't know much about it, except that is a low volume scammy p.o.s, that for some inexplicable reason, trades at massive premiums to the actual Bitcoins which are supposed to be backing it...
Won't buy into this fake hedge type cover.
I will jump on the real bitcoin etf when it is available. Will keep my eyes peeled for it as it will be limited, so first come first serve. As most things that are of true value in this economic "get real or go bust" world we live in.  :D


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: talks_cheep on June 30, 2016, 02:59:23 AM
Why would you want to buy ETF when you can buy real bitcoins directly?

If you're waiting for the Winklevoss ETF, you're wasting your time. It won't do jack for bitcoin price. The twins are doing us a favor by prolonging the process, hopefully it will be denied or die a slow death.


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: CoinCidental on June 30, 2016, 03:37:38 AM
Why would you want to buy ETF when you can buy real bitcoins directly?

If you're waiting for the Winklevoss ETF, you're wasting your time. It won't do jack for bitcoin price. The twins are doing us a favor by prolonging the process, hopefully it will be denied or die a slow death.

An etf will attract a different class of customer
In Other words, not broke Lil teenage phaggotts like yourself.... :)


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: alani123 on June 30, 2016, 04:17:06 AM
Just vaporware, this ETF is never going to get approved no matter how many times they keep trying.

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1579346/000119312516636535/d68862ds1a.htm

Here's the difference with the previous one:
http://published.github.io/sec.gov/ChangeDetection%20-%20Comparison%20of:%20Amendment%20No.6.html


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: talks_cheep on July 02, 2016, 05:37:12 PM
Why would you want to buy ETF when you can buy real bitcoins directly?

If you're waiting for the Winklevoss ETF, you're wasting your time. It won't do jack for bitcoin price. The twins are doing us a favor by prolonging the process, hopefully it will be denied or die a slow death.

An etf will attract a different class of customer
In Other words, not broke Lil teenage phaggotts like yourself.... :)

Just because you are a wee Lil teenie weenie faggot, it doesn't mean everyone else is.

I must have spoken the truth or else you wouldn't have taken such offense. Put on your little girl panties and go to your mommy.

Winklevoss etf will never be approved, not in your life time. So much fun poking at these idiots.


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: arbitrage001 on July 02, 2016, 07:49:24 PM
Old story.

Is the etf close to being approved?


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: CoinCidental on July 02, 2016, 09:17:35 PM
Why would you want to buy ETF when you can buy real bitcoins directly?

If you're waiting for the Winklevoss ETF, you're wasting your time. It won't do jack for bitcoin price. The twins are doing us a favor by prolonging the process, hopefully it will be denied or die a slow death.

An etf will attract a different class of customer
In Other words, not broke Lil teenage phaggotts like yourself.... :)

Just because you are a wee Lil teenie weenie faggot, it doesn't mean everyone else is.

I must have spoken the truth or else you wouldn't have taken such offense. Put on your little girl panties and go to your mommy.

Winklevoss etf will never be approved, not in your life time. So much fun poking at these idiots.

Calm down little dick... No need to get stressed out...
Some people (like yourself)  just ain't cut out for the moon...
No need to hate on the rest of us who can afford a ticket lol.... ;


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: talks_cheep on July 02, 2016, 09:59:57 PM
Why would you want to buy ETF when you can buy real bitcoins directly?

If you're waiting for the Winklevoss ETF, you're wasting your time. It won't do jack for bitcoin price. The twins are doing us a favor by prolonging the process, hopefully it will be denied or die a slow death.

An etf will attract a different class of customer
In Other words, not broke Lil teenage phaggotts like yourself.... :)

Just because you are a wee Lil teenie weenie faggot, it doesn't mean everyone else is.

I must have spoken the truth or else you wouldn't have taken such offense. Put on your little girl panties and go to your mommy.

Winklevoss etf will never be approved, not in your life time. So much fun poking at these idiots.

Calm down little dick... No need to get stressed out...
Some people (like yourself)  just ain't cut out for the moon...
No need to hate on the rest of us who can afford a ticket lol.... ;

You too should calm down, biatch!

I don't hate on anyone, even you. You're the one filled with hatred and anger, prolly stemming from your cuntiness. You don't have a ticket, only holes in your tiny tiny pocket. You and your family will die from hunger and starvation. All your children will be homeless, destitute, your daughers and grand daughers and their daughters will sell their body for food. They will mate with dog and donkeys.


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: European Central Bank on July 02, 2016, 10:47:26 PM
Old story.

Is the etf close to being approved?

read my wonderful thread here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1533942.0

it unquestionably has taken a bunch of steps closer to being possibly approved.



Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 02, 2016, 10:49:13 PM
If this has happened it may have more effect on btc price rise than the impending  halving....

it would have already because of insider-trading. i donīt think it is happening anytime soon.
Yeah, the market doesn't wait long to react to news.  I'm not a firm believer in efficient markets, but I am certainly not a believer in learning-disabled markets.  If it was going to have any effect, it would have already.

I can't figure out (in my pea-brain) why anyone would make an ETF out of bitcoin.  Why not just buy bitcoin?  Then again, derivatives exist for everything, right?  I'm just ignorant.


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: Apraksin on July 02, 2016, 11:16:44 PM

You too should calm down, biatch!

I don't hate on anyone, even you. You're the one filled with hatred and anger, prolly stemming from your cuntiness. You don't have a ticket, only holes in your tiny tiny pocket. You and your family will die from hunger and starvation. All your children will be homeless, destitute, your daughers and grand daughers and their daughters will sell their body for food. They will mate with dog and donkeys.

Hahaha, that's one evil rant! Quoted for posterity  :D


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: Syke on July 02, 2016, 11:42:53 PM
I can't figure out (in my pea-brain) why anyone would make an ETF out of bitcoin.  Why not just buy bitcoin?

Certain investors have money locked up in accounts that can only invest is approved things like an ETF. Raw bitcoin they couldn't invest in.


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: nicked on July 02, 2016, 11:45:47 PM
If this has happened it may have more effect on btc price rise than the impending  halving....

it would have already because of insider-trading. i donīt think it is happening anytime soon.
Yeah, the market doesn't wait long to react to news.  I'm not a firm believer in efficient markets, but I am certainly not a believer in learning-disabled markets.  If it was going to have any effect, it would have already.

I can't figure out (in my pea-brain) why anyone would make an ETF out of bitcoin.  Why not just buy bitcoin?  Then again, derivatives exist for everything, right?  I'm just ignorant.
Because certain types of investment funds are not legally allowed to invest in Bitcoin itself, but they can invest in an Exchange Traded Fund.


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: xhomerx10 on July 02, 2016, 11:59:24 PM
Why would you want to buy ETF when you can buy real bitcoins directly?

If you're waiting for the Winklevoss ETF, you're wasting your time. It won't do jack for bitcoin price. The twins are doing us a favor by prolonging the process, hopefully it will be denied or die a slow death.

An etf will attract a different class of customer
In Other words, not broke Lil teenage phaggotts like yourself.... :)

Just because you are a wee Lil teenie weenie faggot, it doesn't mean everyone else is.

I must have spoken the truth or else you wouldn't have taken such offense. Put on your little girl panties and go to your mommy.

Winklevoss etf will never be approved, not in your life time. So much fun poking at these idiots.

Calm down little dick... No need to get stressed out...
Some people (like yourself)  just ain't cut out for the moon...
No need to hate on the rest of us who can afford a ticket lol.... ;

You too should calm down, biatch!

I don't hate on anyone, even you. You're the one filled with hatred and anger, prolly stemming from your cuntiness. You don't have a ticket, only holes in your tiny tiny pocket. You and your family will die from hunger and starvation. All your children will be homeless, destitute, your daughers and grand daughers and their daughters will sell their body for food. They will mate with dog and donkeys.

 You two need a room.

https://i.imgur.com/Z6InPCI.jpg

 Wait a minute... are you two the Winklevoss twins?!



Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: Soros Shorts on July 03, 2016, 02:13:34 AM
Why would you want to buy ETF when you can buy real bitcoins directly?

I have a lot of cash parked in my IRA and would like to move some of that into BTC. I don't think you can buy real bitcoins directly from an IRA (at least without setting up some kind of complex trust), which is why the ETF would be real nice.


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: jaredboice on July 03, 2016, 02:22:18 AM
Why would you want to buy ETF when you can buy real bitcoins directly?

If you're waiting for the Winklevoss ETF, you're wasting your time. It won't do jack for bitcoin price. The twins are doing us a favor by prolonging the process, hopefully it will be denied or die a slow death.

People who buy bitcoin directly already aren't interested in investing with the ETF, they are interested in the flood of baby boomers and non-techies who will suddenly be able to invest in bitcoin.   ::)


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: CoinCidental on July 03, 2016, 04:37:41 AM
Why would you want to buy ETF when you can buy real bitcoins directly?

If you're waiting for the Winklevoss ETF, you're wasting your time. It won't do jack for bitcoin price. The twins are doing us a favor by prolonging the process, hopefully it will be denied or die a slow death.

An etf will attract a different class of customer
In Other words, not broke Lil teenage phaggotts like yourself.... :)

Just because you are a wee Lil teenie weenie faggot, it doesn't mean everyone else is.

I must have spoken the truth or else you wouldn't have taken such offense. Put on your little girl panties and go to your mommy.

Winklevoss etf will never be approved, not in your life time. So much fun poking at these idiots.

Calm down little dick... No need to get stressed out...
Some people (like yourself)  just ain't cut out for the moon...
No need to hate on the rest of us who can afford a ticket lol.... ;

You too should calm down, biatch!

I don't hate on anyone, even you. You're the one filled with hatred and anger, prolly stemming from your cuntiness. You don't have a ticket, only holes in your tiny tiny pocket. You and your family will die from hunger and starvation. All your children will be homeless, destitute, your daughers and grand daughers and their daughters will sell their body for food. They will mate with dog and donkeys.

dont blame youre sad situation  on me son ,it wont do you any good but it serves to entertain the rest of us so feel free to  continue ur lil rant lol
take a break from munching on those cocks and do something constructive and you might be in a happier place right now .......
i guess when u were growing up you were one of those kids who could only afford to chew on used condoms instead of bubblegum .....but youre mother lied to you
everyone else DOESNT do that too ..... ;D


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: Chef Ramsay on July 03, 2016, 05:16:50 AM
Why would you want to buy ETF when you can buy real bitcoins directly?

If you're waiting for the Winklevoss ETF, you're wasting your time. It won't do jack for bitcoin price. The twins are doing us a favor by prolonging the process, hopefully it will be denied or die a slow death.

An etf will attract a different class of customer
In Other words, not broke Lil teenage phaggotts like yourself.... :)

Just because you are a wee Lil teenie weenie faggot, it doesn't mean everyone else is.

I must have spoken the truth or else you wouldn't have taken such offense. Put on your little girl panties and go to your mommy.

Winklevoss etf will never be approved, not in your life time. So much fun poking at these idiots.

Calm down little dick... No need to get stressed out...
Some people (like yourself)  just ain't cut out for the moon...
No need to hate on the rest of us who can afford a ticket lol.... ;

You too should calm down, biatch!

I don't hate on anyone, even you. You're the one filled with hatred and anger, prolly stemming from your cuntiness. You don't have a ticket, only holes in your tiny tiny pocket. You and your family will die from hunger and starvation. All your children will be homeless, destitute, your daughers and grand daughers and their daughters will sell their body for food. They will mate with dog and donkeys.

dont blame youre sad situation  on me son ,it wont do you any good but it serves to entertain the rest of us so feel free to  continue ur lil rant lol
take a break from munching on those cocks and do something constructive and you might be in a happier place right now .......
i guess when u were growing up you were one of those kids who could only afford to chew on used condoms instead of bubblegum .....but youre mother lied to you
everyone else DOESNT do that too ..... ;D
:D Lmfao: game, set, match.  :o


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: CoinCidental on July 03, 2016, 09:21:58 AM
look what this gimp  sent me by PM lol:

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Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: hv_ on July 03, 2016, 09:04:36 PM
Swiss could be quicker

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1535583.0


Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: jaredboice on July 03, 2016, 09:36:54 PM
look what this gimp  sent me by PM lol:

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I PUT A CURSE ON YOU AND YOUR FUCKING FAMILY
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only thing you will ever curse is your own fucked up crackhead mother ,child molesting father  and your own miserable existence son ...
its not our fault you were born to be a fucked up degenerate little scavenger on a bitcoin forum and thats all you shall ever amount to ..
when you cant take it anymore ,you know what to do ......

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Title: Re: Winklevoss ETF
Post by: Paashaas on July 04, 2016, 01:56:14 AM
The Bitcoin ETF will come and to be honest, the ETF fits better in BATS than in Nasdaq imo.