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Title: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: the joint on March 15, 2013, 01:03:04 AM
Hello,

I would like to sell my pre-order (#1769) for a BFL Little-SC.  This order was placed within ~2 hours of BFL announcing that ASICs were available for pre-order on June 24, 2012.  For serious inquiries, I have screen-cap proof of both the original order for 3 Jalapenos as well as the upgrade to a Little-SC.

Upon receipt of the machine, it will be shipped via overnight express to you the next business day (or Saturday, if possible).

Price:  125 110 BTC shipped.  I will consider all serious offers.


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: Surpbitcoin on March 15, 2013, 01:09:26 AM
I'll get the bidding going:

20 Bitcoins


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: the joint on March 15, 2013, 01:13:25 AM
I'll get the bidding going:

20 Bitcoins

Thank you for your offer :)


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: abbeytim on March 15, 2013, 01:32:26 AM
correct me if im wrong  but im a I thought the little singles weren't announced till later
origonaly it was 4.5 gh/s jalepeno $149  60gh/s single sc  $1299 and the 1500gh/s mini rig sc $29899

or was this day the first day they had the little sc that you ordered ??


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: abbeytim on March 15, 2013, 01:37:53 AM
also they don't allow you to upgrade from the 800mh/s fpga to the $649.99 little sc

only to the $1299 sc


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: the joint on March 15, 2013, 02:09:59 AM
correct me if im wrong  but im a I thought the little singles weren't announced till later
origonaly it was 4.5 gh/s jalepeno $149  60gh/s single sc  $1299 and the 1500gh/s mini rig sc $29899

or was this day the first day they had the little sc that you ordered ??

I ordered 3 Jalapenos on June 24, 2012.

You are correct that the little singles weren't announced until later.  However, those who had already placed Jalapeno pre-orders were allowed to upgrade their order to the Little-SC.  I had to pay extra for this upgrade, and BFL promised that anyone who upgraded their purchase would retain their original spot in line.

So, to clarify, the order you will receive (and the place in line) is one from the first few hours on the very first day of all BFL ASIC pre-orders.  I believe the first order number was something in the low-mid 1600's, so my order is among the first 150 or so ever placed.  It's also likely that not all of these "orders" were paid for, so my true place in line may be even closer to the beginning.  Regardless, your place in the shipping line should easily be within the top 1% of all BFL orders placed to date.


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: abbeytim on March 15, 2013, 05:33:49 AM
k thankyou for clarifying


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: iammagicmike on March 15, 2013, 06:15:50 PM
correct me if im wrong  but im a I thought the little singles weren't announced till later
origonaly it was 4.5 gh/s jalepeno $149  60gh/s single sc  $1299 and the 1500gh/s mini rig sc $29899

or was this day the first day they had the little sc that you ordered ??

I ordered 3 Jalapenos on June 24, 2012.

You are correct that the little singles weren't announced until later.  However, those who had already placed Jalapeno pre-orders were allowed to upgrade their order to the Little-SC.  I had to pay extra for this upgrade, and BFL promised that anyone who upgraded their purchase would retain their original spot in line.

So, to clarify, the order you will receive (and the place in line) is one from the first few hours on the very first day of all BFL ASIC pre-orders.  I believe the first order number was something in the low-mid 1600's, so my order is among the first 150 or so ever placed.  It's also likely that not all of these "orders" were paid for, so my true place in line may be even closer to the beginning.  Regardless, your place in the shipping line should easily be within the top 1% of all BFL orders placed to date.

1. Have these started shipping yet?  The last time I checked BFL still had not given a shipping date (at least nothing more than an optimistic estimate)
2. You are selling the 60gh/s single sc for 125 BTC?
3. From BFL's faq website (see below) it appears that BFL plans on shipping 1/3 to upgrades, 1/3 to new orders, and 1/3 random selection.  So is there still a chance that if BFL ships at the end of march you may not receive the unit? 

I only ask because I understand the value of your price, you could optimistically hope to mine 125 BTC in as little as 3-4 months.  So if there was some sort of a guarantee that your preorder was going to be shipped in the first batch, then I would absolutely consider the purchase.  In the event that BFL delays shipping, yet again, or that your preorder was unlucky enough to be neglected in the first batch are you offering any sort of discounted fee?  or is this a take-it-or-leave-it deal?



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Because of the potential for massive disruption that our ASIC units may cause to the mining ecosystem, we are instituting a 1/3 shipping method for our first shipment of products to individuals. So that no single person or handful of people are able to gain a material advantage over any other, we will ship all our available units at the same time to as many customers as we can. This means we will likely delay shipping on our first units until we have accumulated enough stock to satisfy a significant portion of our initial orders. This ensures that as many people as possible who are early adopters are equally and fairly treated when receiving our product. To that end we will be shipping our first orders as such: 1/3 of each product line (Jalapeno, Single SC and Minirig SC) will be shipping to new orders, 1/3 to upgrade orders and the final 1/3 will be shipped to a random selection of orders from the first two categories (both upgrade and new customers) received in the first month of orders (From 23 June 2012 to 22 July 2012).


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: the joint on March 15, 2013, 06:35:16 PM
correct me if im wrong  but im a I thought the little singles weren't announced till later
origonaly it was 4.5 gh/s jalepeno $149  60gh/s single sc  $1299 and the 1500gh/s mini rig sc $29899

or was this day the first day they had the little sc that you ordered ??

I ordered 3 Jalapenos on June 24, 2012.

You are correct that the little singles weren't announced until later.  However, those who had already placed Jalapeno pre-orders were allowed to upgrade their order to the Little-SC.  I had to pay extra for this upgrade, and BFL promised that anyone who upgraded their purchase would retain their original spot in line.

So, to clarify, the order you will receive (and the place in line) is one from the first few hours on the very first day of all BFL ASIC pre-orders.  I believe the first order number was something in the low-mid 1600's, so my order is among the first 150 or so ever placed.  It's also likely that not all of these "orders" were paid for, so my true place in line may be even closer to the beginning.  Regardless, your place in the shipping line should easily be within the top 1% of all BFL orders placed to date.

1. Have these started shipping yet?  The last time I checked BFL still had not given a shipping date (at least nothing more than an optimistic estimate)
2. You are selling the 60gh/s single sc for 125 BTC?
3. From BFL's faq website (see below) it appears that BFL plans on shipping 1/3 to upgrades, 1/3 to new orders, and 1/3 random selection.  So is there still a chance that if BFL ships at the end of march you may not receive the unit? 

I only ask because I understand the value of your price, you could optimistically hope to mine 125 BTC in as little as 3-4 months.  So if there was some sort of a guarantee that your preorder was going to be shipped in the first batch, then I would absolutely consider the purchase.  In the event that BFL delays shipping, yet again, or that your preorder was unlucky enough to be neglected in the first batch are you offering any sort of discounted fee?  or is this a take-it-or-leave-it deal?



Quote
Because of the potential for massive disruption that our ASIC units may cause to the mining ecosystem, we are instituting a 1/3 shipping method for our first shipment of products to individuals. So that no single person or handful of people are able to gain a material advantage over any other, we will ship all our available units at the same time to as many customers as we can. This means we will likely delay shipping on our first units until we have accumulated enough stock to satisfy a significant portion of our initial orders. This ensures that as many people as possible who are early adopters are equally and fairly treated when receiving our product. To that end we will be shipping our first orders as such: 1/3 of each product line (Jalapeno, Single SC and Minirig SC) will be shipping to new orders, 1/3 to upgrade orders and the final 1/3 will be shipped to a random selection of orders from the first two categories (both upgrade and new customers) received in the first month of orders (From 23 June 2012 to 22 July 2012).

1.)  BFL has not shipped the products yet, however they have posted pictures of completed chips and boards and they state the chips are working fine. 

2.)  I am selling the pre-order for the Little-SC which is 30 gh/s.

3.)  As you can see here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=89685.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=89685.0)  the first known order number according to this thread is #1656 while my order number is #1769.  Order numbers occurring around July 22 include up to at least order #3758.  This alone places me in the top 5% of orders placed in just the first month of orders.  If BFL plans to ship 1/3 of the units to "new" orders, then I would think my order should easily make the cut (though this is up to BFL, of course).

4.)  This is a take it or leave it deal.  I live in IL, so not only should I be among the first to receive my order due to my low order number, but I should also be among the first to receive the product in transit.  Shipping from Kansas City to IL usually takes a day or two, and if I wanted, I could even pick up the device in person.  However, this is a "take it or leave it deal" because there are simply too many unknown variables that could change between now and a few weeks from now which could alter my sale decision.  I am actually quite reluctant to let my pre-order go considering I've waited so long, and also because I believe that the premium its resale carries will remain high even after 2-3 months of mining with it.


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: the joint on March 20, 2013, 04:06:17 AM
Bump


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: BurtW on March 20, 2013, 04:29:21 AM
Read throught the thread and it appears that the "buy it now" price is 125 BTC but the highest bid so far is 20 BTC.  If my understanding is correct then I bid 21 BTC.


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: Bowjob on March 20, 2013, 04:33:11 AM
This thread makes me sad.. in a good way. Sad because you decided you had enough and broke your Stockholm Syndrome with BFL. Tragic.. Tragic. Knowing when to cut your losses is a good medicine to have.


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: the joint on March 20, 2013, 04:36:58 AM
Read throught the thread and it appears that the "buy it now" price is 125 BTC but the highest bid so far is 20 BTC.  If my understanding is correct then I bid 21 BTC.

It's not an auction, but I will consider serious offers.  Thanks for your offer.  I've had one semi-interested contact at my declared asking price, so that may give you some indication about what I think of the offers posted so far on this thread.


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: BurtW on March 20, 2013, 04:42:35 AM
Read throught the thread and it appears that the "buy it now" price is 125 BTC but the highest bid so far is 20 BTC.  If my understanding is correct then I bid 21 BTC.

It's not an auction, but I will consider serious offers.  Thanks for your offer.  I've had one semi-interested contact at my declared asking price, so that may give you some indication about what I think of the offers posted so far on this thread.
Understood.  If you get 125 BTC for it then that would be fantastic.  My (obviously low ball) offer is on the table.  Carry on.


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: the joint on March 20, 2013, 07:38:30 PM
Bump.

So far, best contact offers have been:

1)  One semi-interested buyer at 125 BTC.

2)  One official offer of 40 BTC up front plus 50% of all Bitcoins mined during first 3 months of operation.  This offer appeals to me, though I didn't feel that the mined coins could be escrowed safely and I don't really want to keep track of the payments over that period of time.


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: hennessyhemp on March 20, 2013, 08:01:41 PM
Bump...If only I had the money to buy this.  :'(

I'd be asking 150 if this were mine...screw that, I'd keep it and just generate bitcoins till I had to reflow the board, then I'd reflow it and generate more forever.


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: the joint on March 21, 2013, 01:37:26 AM
http://i49.tinypic.com/288uk51.png


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: Jrock on March 21, 2013, 05:00:35 AM
What happens if BFL is a well played scam?

I don't like buying other people's risk   ;D


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: the joint on March 21, 2013, 05:12:26 PM
Bump.


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: the joint on March 22, 2013, 08:30:18 PM
Price Update!


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: bomboclat77 on March 23, 2013, 12:03:08 AM
PM'd


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: 2weiX on March 23, 2013, 09:57:25 PM
I'll bid 50 BTC

five-fold premium seems reasonable.


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: bomboclat77 on March 24, 2013, 02:04:02 AM
I'll bid 50 BTC

five-fold premium seems reasonable.

Agreed. I believe the price is a bit absurd.


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: the joint on March 24, 2013, 04:06:32 AM
I'll bid 50 BTC

five-fold premium seems reasonable.


PMed counter-offer.


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: 2weiX on March 25, 2013, 09:42:17 AM
i think we are close to making a deal.


Title: Re: [WTS] First-Day BFL ASIC Preorder #1769 Little-SC
Post by: 2weiX on March 26, 2013, 10:55:01 AM
deal agreed upon, drafting contract.