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Title: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $13,500.00 Post by: AriesIV10 on July 01, 2016, 11:54:29 AM FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - Already Hosted and In Location. $17,000.00
30 Hosted Miners (no shipping costs, no waiting, full control and profit immediately) Approximately 141 TH/s There are 30 Bitmain Antminer S7's and 14 Bitmain PSUs(Power Supplies) for sale. They are being hosted in Washington State which has the best electric rates in the US. You can take full control of the miners and start earning profits immediately. This will avoid shipping, installation and purchasing component parts. You can be anywhere in the world and control this farm. Ownership and Control of 30 miners and 14 PSUs are included in this auction. I have 14 PSUs for 14 of the miners and rent 16 PSUs for $5 per month for the other 16 miners. I pay $80/mo per miner(30) and rent PSUS for $5/mo per miner(16). You will have full control of the miners through the user interface. This sale is for 30 S7 miners, 14 Bitmain PSUs and take over control of all of them in location. This is a turnkey sale. Please ask questions if you are serious about this Bitcoin Mining Farm. There is no shipping; THIS SALE IS IN LOCATION ONLY with this Hosting Agency. No shipping costs, no waiting, full control and profit immediately. MAKE AN OFFER! Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $17,000.00 Post by: BadAss.Sx on July 01, 2016, 11:57:06 AM You can only make profit after you get your money back from this sales. My guess is that there won't be any profit at all after halving.
Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $17,000.00 Post by: thedreamer on July 01, 2016, 05:23:36 PM If there is a LOT of room for negotiations, I'm interested. Your price is easy higher than new prices though.
Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $17,000.00 Post by: smracer on July 01, 2016, 05:46:25 PM Do you own the miners? Can I get them shipped? I have bought plenty of them from Oregonmines already and had them shipped to me in Texas.
I will offer $6750 for the 30 S7's and I will take care of shipping. Paying in BTC escrow with OGNasty. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $17,000.00 Post by: AriesIV10 on July 01, 2016, 08:09:35 PM Do you own the miners? Can I get them shipped? I have bought plenty of them from Oregonmines already and had them shipped to me in Texas. I will offer $6750 for the 30 S7's and I will take care of shipping. Paying in BTC escrow with OGNasty. I do own the miners, but cannot ship them. My contract with the Host Company goes through December. They buyer will have to sign a new contract. $6750 would be WAY too low! I appreciate the time in making the offer. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $17,000.00 Post by: AriesIV10 on July 01, 2016, 08:19:49 PM You can only make profit after you get your money back from this sales. My guess is that there won't be any profit at all after halving. I am not in a hurry to sell them. After Halving there is still plenty of profit. Just look at the numbers right now: I am making about $9.50 per day per miner = 9.50 x 30 = $285 per month per miner - $80 collocation and maintenance fee = $205 profit per month per miner. Total for 30 miners is $6150.00 per month! Not too bad. If there is no increase in BTC, after halving this will be $3075 per month. That would be a $36,900 per year profit! Before Halving: Monthly Gross = $8,550. Annual Gross = $102,600 Monthly Net = $6,150. Annual Net = $73,800 After Halving: Monthly Gross = $4,275. Annual Gross = $51,300 Monthly Net = $1,875. Annual Net = $22,500 You should not "guess" when it comes to your income. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $17,000.00 Post by: smracer on July 01, 2016, 08:38:08 PM You can only make profit after you get your money back from this sales. My guess is that there won't be any profit at all after halving. I am not in a hurry to sell them. After Halving there is still plenty of profit. Just look at the numbers right now: I am making about $9.50 per day per miner = 9.50 x 30 = $285 per month per miner - $80 collocation and maintenance fee = $205 profit per month per miner. Total for 30 miners is $6150.00 per month! Not too bad. If there is no increase in BTC, after halving this will be $3075 per month. That would be a $36,900 per year profit! Before Halving: Monthly Gross = $8,550. Annual Gross = $102,600 Monthly Net = $6,150. Annual Net = $73,800 After Halving: Monthly Gross = $4,275. Annual Gross = $51,300 Monthly Net = $3,075. Annual Net = $36,900 You should not "guess" when it comes to your income. I thought you were paying $80 per miner plus $80 for the PSU's. Wouldn't that be $2480 for costs? Your costs don't halve after the halving. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $17,000.00 Post by: MarkAz on July 01, 2016, 10:12:12 PM I thought you were paying $80 per miner plus $80 for the PSU's. Wouldn't that be $2480 for costs? Your costs don't halve after the halving. The difference between his pre-halving gross and net is $2400, so pretty much what you thought... And you're 100% right about his costs not halving, so really it would be more like: After Halving: Monthly Gross = $4,275. Annual Gross = $51,300 Monthly Net = $1,875. Annual Net = $22,500 And this doesn't take into consideration that the difficulty has been increasing by about 10% each month (so just subtract 10% from gross): Net: $1875, $1447, $1062, $716, $404, $124, -$128 So after 6 months, you'll probably be negative mining - of course this assumes that difficulty keeps rising at a constant 10%, and the value of bitcoin basically doesn't increase at all from what it is today. While I believe that the difficulty is probably a good estimate, I'm also a believer that the value of BTC will increase over time. So 6 months it would net ~$5628, pretty close to the $6750 you've offered, so I imagine you used similar math to come up with that price. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $17,000.00 Post by: AriesIV10 on July 02, 2016, 02:26:48 AM You can only make profit after you get your money back from this sales. My guess is that there won't be any profit at all after halving. I am not in a hurry to sell them. After Halving there is still plenty of profit. Just look at the numbers right now: I am making about $9.50 per day per miner = 9.50 x 30 = $285 per month per miner - $80 collocation and maintenance fee = $205 profit per month per miner. Total for 30 miners is $6150.00 per month! Not too bad. If there is no increase in BTC, after halving this will be $3075 per month. That would be a $36,900 per year profit! Before Halving: Monthly Gross = $8,550. Annual Gross = $102,600 Monthly Net = $6,150. Annual Net = $73,800 After Halving: Monthly Gross = $4,275. Annual Gross = $51,300 Monthly Net = $1,795. Annual Net = $21,540. ---THESE ARE CORRECTED Exact Payments per month: 14 Miners and 14 PSUs = $80 x 14 = $1,120.00 Colocation and Maint Costs 16 Miners and 16 Rented PSUs ($5 each) = $85 x 16 = $1,360 Colocation and Maint Costs Total Cost for 30 Miners, 14 owned PSUs and 16 Rented PSUs = $2,480.00 Profits per month = $4,275.00 Colo and Maint per mo = $2,480.00 Net = $1795.00 You should not "guess" when it comes to your income. These are all assumptions based on the BTC not increasing and the difficulty not changing. MarkAz has estimated the difficulty at 10% which may very well be correct, but the assumption would then be that BTC would increase as he has also eluded. Thanks MarkAz. I thought you were paying $80 per miner plus $80 for the PSU's. Wouldn't that be $2480 for costs? Your costs don't halve after the halving. No, just $80 per machine and then I own 14 PSUs so, I rent PSUs for the other 16 Miners at $5 each per month. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $17,000.00 Post by: AriesIV10 on July 02, 2016, 02:52:13 AM I thought you were paying $80 per miner plus $80 for the PSU's. Wouldn't that be $2480 for costs? Your costs don't halve after the halving. The difference between his pre-halving gross and net is $2400, so pretty much what you thought... And you're 100% right about his costs not halving, so really it would be more like: After Halving: Monthly Gross = $4,275. Annual Gross = $51,300 Monthly Net = $1,875. Annual Net = $22,500 And this doesn't take into consideration that the difficulty has been increasing by about 10% each month (so just subtract 10% from gross): Net: $1875, $1447, $1062, $716, $404, $124, -$128 So after 6 months, you'll probably be negative mining - of course this assumes that difficulty keeps rising at a constant 10%, and the value of bitcoin basically doesn't increase at all from what it is today. While I believe that the difficulty is probably a good estimate, I'm also a believer that the value of BTC will increase over time. So 6 months it would net ~$5628, pretty close to the $6750 you've offered, so I imagine you used similar math to come up with that price. Your figures are correct as well as your estimates as long as Bitcoin does not rise at all over the next 7 months. I believe that there is going to be a dramatic increase in BTC due to supply and demand over the next 6 months. My estimates are $1800 in Sept and $3000 by the end of the year. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $17,000.00 Post by: wheelz1200 on July 02, 2016, 05:41:03 PM I thought you were paying $80 per miner plus $80 for the PSU's. Wouldn't that be $2480 for costs? Your costs don't halve after the halving. The difference between his pre-halving gross and net is $2400, so pretty much what you thought... And you're 100% right about his costs not halving, so really it would be more like: After Halving: Monthly Gross = $4,275. Annual Gross = $51,300 Monthly Net = $1,875. Annual Net = $22,500 And this doesn't take into consideration that the difficulty has been increasing by about 10% each month (so just subtract 10% from gross): Net: $1875, $1447, $1062, $716, $404, $124, -$128 So after 6 months, you'll probably be negative mining - of course this assumes that difficulty keeps rising at a constant 10%, and the value of bitcoin basically doesn't increase at all from what it is today. While I believe that the difficulty is probably a good estimate, I'm also a believer that the value of BTC will increase over time. So 6 months it would net ~$5628, pretty close to the $6750 you've offered, so I imagine you used similar math to come up with that price. Your figures are correct as well as your estimates as long as Bitcoin does not rise at all over the next 7 months. I believe that there is going to be a dramatic increase in BTC due to supply and demand over the next 6 months. My estimates are $1800 in Sept and $3000 by the end of the year. I am interested too. Not at $17k, and if you are banking on $3k/btc at the end of the year for negotiations that will be tough. Its possible but you need to consider todays rate. If you see $3k prices at the end of the year you can pretty much expect difficulty to rise faster then the current rate as well. Whats your wiggle toom from $17k? Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $17,000.00 Post by: MarkAz on July 02, 2016, 06:04:26 PM I am interested too. Not at $17k, and if you are banking on $3k/btc at the end of the year for negotiations that will be tough. Its possible but you need to consider todays rate. If you see $3k prices at the end of the year you can pretty much expect difficulty to rise faster then the current rate as well. Whats your wiggle toom from $17k? Statistically speaking my guess would be that we shouldn't see the average difficulty rise at a faster rate than my 10% estimate, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it less by years end... Keep in mind that each progressive increase means that it takes more and more machines to make an equivalent increase. Each new hardware platform is yielding less and less incremental improvement, so we'll be close to the point where it probably won't be faster hardware that pushes difficulty, but larger new deployments that do. Now, if BTC goes to $3k by the end of the year, then people will be spinning up machines like crazy and difficulty could skyrocket, but I really doubt that's realistic - I'd be happy if we saw it at a stable 2x of today (~$1.4k) by December. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $17,000.00 Post by: AriesIV10 on July 02, 2016, 06:11:09 PM I thought you were paying $80 per miner plus $80 for the PSU's. Wouldn't that be $2480 for costs? Your costs don't halve after the halving. The difference between his pre-halving gross and net is $2400, so pretty much what you thought... And you're 100% right about his costs not halving, so really it would be more like: After Halving: Monthly Gross = $4,275. Annual Gross = $51,300 Monthly Net = $1,875. Annual Net = $22,500 And this doesn't take into consideration that the difficulty has been increasing by about 10% each month (so just subtract 10% from gross): Net: $1875, $1447, $1062, $716, $404, $124, -$128 So after 6 months, you'll probably be negative mining - of course this assumes that difficulty keeps rising at a constant 10%, and the value of bitcoin basically doesn't increase at all from what it is today. While I believe that the difficulty is probably a good estimate, I'm also a believer that the value of BTC will increase over time. So 6 months it would net ~$5628, pretty close to the $6750 you've offered, so I imagine you used similar math to come up with that price. Your figures are correct as well as your estimates as long as Bitcoin does not rise at all over the next 7 months. I believe that there is going to be a dramatic increase in BTC due to supply and demand over the next 6 months. My estimates are $1800 in Sept and $3000 by the end of the year. I am interested too. Not at $17k, and if you are banking on $3k/btc at the end of the year for negotiations that will be tough. Its possible but you need to consider todays rate. If you see $3k prices at the end of the year you can pretty much expect difficulty to rise faster then the current rate as well. Whats your wiggle toom from $17k? There may be a little wiggle room, but not much. I do still see a nice profit now and in the next year. Let's take for example 10% difficulty over the next 6 months. That would be compounded, but just for simplicity we will call it 60% increase in difficulty. Then we take the Bitcoin rate at let say double. That is 200% in Bitcoin profitability...leaving a nice margin for profit. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $17,000.00 Post by: wheelz1200 on July 02, 2016, 07:33:38 PM I thought you were paying $80 per miner plus $80 for the PSU's. Wouldn't that be $2480 for costs? Your costs don't halve after the halving. The difference between his pre-halving gross and net is $2400, so pretty much what you thought... And you're 100% right about his costs not halving, so really it would be more like: After Halving: Monthly Gross = $4,275. Annual Gross = $51,300 Monthly Net = $1,875. Annual Net = $22,500 And this doesn't take into consideration that the difficulty has been increasing by about 10% each month (so just subtract 10% from gross): Net: $1875, $1447, $1062, $716, $404, $124, -$128 So after 6 months, you'll probably be negative mining - of course this assumes that difficulty keeps rising at a constant 10%, and the value of bitcoin basically doesn't increase at all from what it is today. While I believe that the difficulty is probably a good estimate, I'm also a believer that the value of BTC will increase over time. So 6 months it would net ~$5628, pretty close to the $6750 you've offered, so I imagine you used similar math to come up with that price. Your figures are correct as well as your estimates as long as Bitcoin does not rise at all over the next 7 months. I believe that there is going to be a dramatic increase in BTC due to supply and demand over the next 6 months. My estimates are $1800 in Sept and $3000 by the end of the year. I am interested too. Not at $17k, and if you are banking on $3k/btc at the end of the year for negotiations that will be tough. Its possible but you need to consider todays rate. If you see $3k prices at the end of the year you can pretty much expect difficulty to rise faster then the current rate as well. Whats your wiggle toom from $17k? There may be a little wiggle room, but not much. I do still see a nice profit now and in the next year. Let's take for example 10% difficulty over the next 6 months. That would be compounded, but just for simplicity we will call it 60% increase in difficulty. Then we take the Bitcoin rate at let say double. That is 200% in Bitcoin profitability...leaving a nice margin for profit. I understand your thinking but you have to consider opportunity cost when mining. If i was to spend $17k on gear and you believe that btc will double in 6 months why wouldnt i just buy btc and end up with $34k after 6 months. Thats why i dont consider the cost of btc price increases, maybe im wrong. Not trying to derail you im genuinely interested i just cant come close to $17k. Let me know if/when you want to reduce the price and we can chat. Thanks and good luck with your sale. It is nice gear. Edit: where is it being hosted? Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $17,000.00 Post by: AriesIV10 on July 03, 2016, 03:44:39 AM I thought you were paying $80 per miner plus $80 for the PSU's. Wouldn't that be $2480 for costs? Your costs don't halve after the halving. The difference between his pre-halving gross and net is $2400, so pretty much what you thought... And you're 100% right about his costs not halving, so really it would be more like: After Halving: Monthly Gross = $4,275. Annual Gross = $51,300 Monthly Net = $1,875. Annual Net = $22,500 And this doesn't take into consideration that the difficulty has been increasing by about 10% each month (so just subtract 10% from gross): Net: $1875, $1447, $1062, $716, $404, $124, -$128 So after 6 months, you'll probably be negative mining - of course this assumes that difficulty keeps rising at a constant 10%, and the value of bitcoin basically doesn't increase at all from what it is today. While I believe that the difficulty is probably a good estimate, I'm also a believer that the value of BTC will increase over time. So 6 months it would net ~$5628, pretty close to the $6750 you've offered, so I imagine you used similar math to come up with that price. Your figures are correct as well as your estimates as long as Bitcoin does not rise at all over the next 7 months. I believe that there is going to be a dramatic increase in BTC due to supply and demand over the next 6 months. My estimates are $1800 in Sept and $3000 by the end of the year. I am interested too. Not at $17k, and if you are banking on $3k/btc at the end of the year for negotiations that will be tough. Its possible but you need to consider todays rate. If you see $3k prices at the end of the year you can pretty much expect difficulty to rise faster then the current rate as well. Whats your wiggle toom from $17k? There may be a little wiggle room, but not much. I do still see a nice profit now and in the next year. Let's take for example 10% difficulty over the next 6 months. That would be compounded, but just for simplicity we will call it 60% increase in difficulty. Then we take the Bitcoin rate at let say double. That is 200% in Bitcoin profitability...leaving a nice margin for profit. I understand your thinking but you have to consider opportunity cost when mining. If i was to spend $17k on gear and you believe that btc will double in 6 months why wouldnt i just buy btc and end up with $34k after 6 months. Thats why i dont consider the cost of btc price increases, maybe im wrong. Not trying to derail you im genuinely interested i just cant come close to $17k. Let me know if/when you want to reduce the price and we can chat. Thanks and good luck with your sale. It is nice gear. Edit: where is it being hosted? Haha, I have a good friend that says the same thing, that he will just invest. His investment last year is at $218 per Bitcoin was a smart investment looking at it now when Bitcoin is at $700. I have congratulated him on his smart investment and showed him how I doubled his profitability over the last year by mining. I made the profit all the way through and have machines that will still make me money. I cannot give out the name of the hosting agency except when I give the person the phone number to call him to arrange the deal. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $17,000.00 Post by: AriesIV10 on July 03, 2016, 11:15:05 AM I thought you were paying $80 per miner plus $80 for the PSU's. Wouldn't that be $2480 for costs? Your costs don't halve after the halving. The difference between his pre-halving gross and net is $2400, so pretty much what you thought... And you're 100% right about his costs not halving, so really it would be more like: After Halving: Monthly Gross = $4,275. Annual Gross = $51,300 Monthly Net = $1,875. Annual Net = $22,500 And this doesn't take into consideration that the difficulty has been increasing by about 10% each month (so just subtract 10% from gross): Net: $1875, $1447, $1062, $716, $404, $124, -$128 So after 6 months, you'll probably be negative mining - of course this assumes that difficulty keeps rising at a constant 10%, and the value of bitcoin basically doesn't increase at all from what it is today. While I believe that the difficulty is probably a good estimate, I'm also a believer that the value of BTC will increase over time. So 6 months it would net ~$5628, pretty close to the $6750 you've offered, so I imagine you used similar math to come up with that price. Your figures are correct as well as your estimates as long as Bitcoin does not rise at all over the next 7 months. I believe that there is going to be a dramatic increase in BTC due to supply and demand over the next 6 months. My estimates are $1800 in Sept and $3000 by the end of the year. I am interested too. Not at $17k, and if you are banking on $3k/btc at the end of the year for negotiations that will be tough. Its possible but you need to consider todays rate. If you see $3k prices at the end of the year you can pretty much expect difficulty to rise faster then the current rate as well. Whats your wiggle toom from $17k? There may be a little wiggle room, but not much. I do still see a nice profit now and in the next year. Let's take for example 10% difficulty over the next 6 months. That would be compounded, but just for simplicity we will call it 60% increase in difficulty. Then we take the Bitcoin rate at let say double. That is 200% in Bitcoin profitability...leaving a nice margin for profit. I understand your thinking but you have to consider opportunity cost when mining. If i was to spend $17k on gear and you believe that btc will double in 6 months why wouldnt i just buy btc and end up with $34k after 6 months. Thats why i dont consider the cost of btc price increases, maybe im wrong. Not trying to derail you im genuinely interested i just cant come close to $17k. Let me know if/when you want to reduce the price and we can chat. Thanks and good luck with your sale. It is nice gear. Edit: where is it being hosted? Haha, I have a good friend that says the same thing, that he will just invest. His investment last year is at $218 per Bitcoin was a smart investment looking at it now when Bitcoin is at $700. I have congratulated him on his smart investment and showed him how I doubled his profitability over the last year by mining. I made the profit all the way through and have machines that will still make me money. I cannot give out the name of the hosting agency except when I give the person the phone number to call him to arrange the deal. New Price - $16,000 - no shipping costs, no waiting, full control and profit immediately - This is a GREAT DEAL! 30 Miners and 14 PSUs Already Hosted! Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $17,000.00 Post by: thedreamer on July 03, 2016, 12:19:11 PM Sorry but unless you do a BIG drop in price you're going to be stuck with this past the halfing in a few days.
Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $16,000.00 Post by: AriesIV10 on July 03, 2016, 12:38:15 PM Sorry but unless you do a BIG drop in price you're going to be stuck with this past the halfing in a few days. I am not in a hurry to sell them. They are and will be profitable past halving. :D Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $16,000.00 Post by: thedreamer on July 03, 2016, 12:44:13 PM Sorry but unless you do a BIG drop in price you're going to be stuck with this past the halfing in a few days. I am not in a hurry to sell them. They are and will be profitable past halving. :D For you, yes.. ;) Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $17,000.00 Post by: Puffy23 on July 03, 2016, 06:50:38 PM I thought you were paying $80 per miner plus $80 for the PSU's. Wouldn't that be $2480 for costs? Your costs don't halve after the halving. The difference between his pre-halving gross and net is $2400, so pretty much what you thought... And you're 100% right about his costs not halving, so really it would be more like: After Halving: Monthly Gross = $4,275. Annual Gross = $51,300 Monthly Net = $1,875. Annual Net = $22,500 And this doesn't take into consideration that the difficulty has been increasing by about 10% each month (so just subtract 10% from gross): Net: $1875, $1447, $1062, $716, $404, $124, -$128 So after 6 months, you'll probably be negative mining - of course this assumes that difficulty keeps rising at a constant 10%, and the value of bitcoin basically doesn't increase at all from what it is today. While I believe that the difficulty is probably a good estimate, I'm also a believer that the value of BTC will increase over time. So 6 months it would net ~$5628, pretty close to the $6750 you've offered, so I imagine you used similar math to come up with that price. Your figures are correct as well as your estimates as long as Bitcoin does not rise at all over the next 7 months. I believe that there is going to be a dramatic increase in BTC due to supply and demand over the next 6 months. My estimates are $1800 in Sept and $3000 by the end of the year. I am interested too. Not at $17k, and if you are banking on $3k/btc at the end of the year for negotiations that will be tough. Its possible but you need to consider todays rate. If you see $3k prices at the end of the year you can pretty much expect difficulty to rise faster then the current rate as well. Whats your wiggle toom from $17k? There may be a little wiggle room, but not much. I do still see a nice profit now and in the next year. Let's take for example 10% difficulty over the next 6 months. That would be compounded, but just for simplicity we will call it 60% increase in difficulty. Then we take the Bitcoin rate at let say double. That is 200% in Bitcoin profitability...leaving a nice margin for profit. I understand your thinking but you have to consider opportunity cost when mining. If i was to spend $17k on gear and you believe that btc will double in 6 months why wouldnt i just buy btc and end up with $34k after 6 months. Thats why i dont consider the cost of btc price increases, maybe im wrong. Not trying to derail you im genuinely interested i just cant come close to $17k. Let me know if/when you want to reduce the price and we can chat. Thanks and good luck with your sale. It is nice gear. Edit: where is it being hosted? Haha, I have a good friend that says the same thing, that he will just invest. His investment last year is at $218 per Bitcoin was a smart investment looking at it now when Bitcoin is at $700. I have congratulated him on his smart investment and showed him how I doubled his profitability over the last year by mining. I made the profit all the way through and have machines that will still make me money. I cannot give out the name of the hosting agency except when I give the person the phone number to call him to arrange the deal. The only way mining is more profitable than investing is if the miner returns more BTC than it costs. If the miner doesn't return equivalent or more BTC than it costs, then it is mathematically impossible to yield higher profits than just investing. If a miner costs 8 BTC and creates 6 BTC regardless of the value of BTC so you have less money. Investors have 8 coins, you have 6. Can these 30 miners create more BTC than what you're charging? Sure, it would require difficulty to stagnate. That would likely occur during a long lasting price slump. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $16,000.00 Post by: fuzion1 on July 04, 2016, 02:44:12 AM This seems like a pretty high price for used s7. The monthly profit after halving would be about $3350 at the current price and then minus your hosting cost of $2480 per month.
Net profit of: $870 I think the only way you are going to sell this is to sell at about $6000. Even that might be too much. Or you could just ride it out and reap the profit until it's time to shut them off. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $16,000.00 Post by: 402blownstroker on July 04, 2016, 03:11:29 AM This is a little risky as it would require trust from 2 parties, one of which (NOT you) can up and leave without any real repercussions - if I understand the OP correctly.
I've been thinking about cloud mining/hosted mining, but this has been a major hurdle for me. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $15,500.00 Post by: AriesIV10 on July 04, 2016, 11:33:13 AM This seems like a pretty high price for used s7. The monthly profit after halving would be about $3350 at the current price and then minus your hosting cost of $2480 per month. Net profit of: $870 I think the only way you are going to sell this is to sell at about $6000. Even that might be too much. Or you could just ride it out and reap the profit until it's time to shut them off. Here are the EXACT numbers that I redid for the past month: Before Halving: Monthly Gross = $9,747.00 Annual Gross = $116,964 Monthly Net = $7,267.00 Annual Net = $87,8204 After Halving: Monthly Gross = $4,873.50 Annual Gross = $58,482 Monthly Net = $2,393.50 Annual Net = $28,722. Exact Payments per month: 14 Miners and 14 PSUs = $80 x 14 = $1,120.00 Colocation and Maint Costs 16 Miners and 16 Rented PSUs ($5 each) = $85 x 16 = $1,360 Colocation and Maint Costs Total Cost for 30 Miners, 14 owned PSUs and 16 Rented PSUs = $2,480.00 Profits per month = $4,873.50 Colo and Maint per mo = $2,480.00 Net = $2,393.50 Based on the BTC not increasing and the difficulty not changing. Bitcoin and Difficulty will change. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $15,500.00 Post by: thedreamer on July 04, 2016, 12:17:02 PM Here are the EXACT numbers that I redid for the past month: After Halving: Monthly Gross = $4,873.50 Annual Gross = $58,482 Monthly Net = $2,393.50 Annual Net = $28,722 Your calc is waaay wrong. How do you get $4873.50 per month after halfing with 141th? Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $15,500.00 Post by: smracer on July 04, 2016, 02:11:55 PM Here are the EXACT numbers that I redid for the past month: After Halving: Monthly Gross = $4,873.50 Annual Gross = $58,482 Monthly Net = $2,393.50 Annual Net = $28,722 Your calc is waaay wrong. How do you get $4873.50 per month after halfing with 141th? It is $3,504 per month (without difficulty increases) for 141TH after the halving. Right now 1TH makes .0024 BTC per day. After halving 1TH will make .0012 BTC per day. 141TH X .0012 X 30.5 = 5.16BTC per month or $3,504. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $15,500.00 Post by: fuzion1 on July 04, 2016, 07:50:26 PM This seems like a pretty high price for used s7. The monthly profit after halving would be about $3350 at the current price and then minus your hosting cost of $2480 per month. Net profit of: $870 I think the only way you are going to sell this is to sell at about $6000. Even that might be too much. Or you could just ride it out and reap the profit until it's time to shut them off. Here are the EXACT numbers that I redid for the past month: Before Halving: Monthly Gross = $9,747.00 Annual Gross = $116,964 Monthly Net = $7,267.00 Annual Net = $87,8204 After Halving: Monthly Gross = $4,873.50 Annual Gross = $58,482 Monthly Net = $2,393.50 Annual Net = $28,722. Exact Payments per month: 14 Miners and 14 PSUs = $80 x 14 = $1,120.00 Colocation and Maint Costs 16 Miners and 16 Rented PSUs ($5 each) = $85 x 16 = $1,360 Colocation and Maint Costs Total Cost for 30 Miners, 14 owned PSUs and 16 Rented PSUs = $2,480.00 Profits per month = $4,873.50 Colo and Maint per mo = $2,480.00 Net = $2,393.50 Based on the BTC not increasing and the difficulty not changing. Bitcoin and Difficulty will change. If you lower the price below $6000 I would be interested. A 6 month payoff would be fair to anyone buying this. Other than that you might just keep it and ride it out. Then sell the units on eBay or something. My calculations have this netting anywhere from 800-1000 per month for the next 6 months if everything stays steady, which it might not. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $16,000.00 Post by: AriesIV10 on July 04, 2016, 10:40:38 PM Maybe it is the pool that some of you are doing your estimates that are lower than mine; I am with CKPool.
Kano.is CKPool Mar 2016, 129 Blocks, 4.16 Blks/Day Apr 2016, 134 Blocks, 4.47 Blks/Day May 2016, 126 Blocks, 4.07 Blks/Day Jun 2016, 132 Blocks, 4.40 Blks/Day 4.275 average per day (based upon the last 4 months) Today July 4th 2016 my pool (CKPool) hit 4 blocks (we still may hit more). My total Payout was $277.37. $277.37 x 30 days per month = $8321.10. Halving it would be $4160.55 If you would like to do the numbers with the average per day 4.275: $277.37/4=$69.34 per block; $69.34 x 4.275 ave per day = $296.43 ave per day; $296.43 * 30 days per month = $8892.90 ave per month; After halving $4445. I still do not see the $800 - $1000 estimate per month that you are talking about. Another factor is the increase in Bitcoin over the next six months that would negate or at least mitigate the difficulty. Maybe you are just wanting see the price reduced? Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $16,000.00 Post by: EnJoyThis on July 04, 2016, 10:41:40 PM Well, if we assume btc will hit $1800 in september, let me buy your farm at that price/btc.
so you're asking $16.000, I'll buy it against $1800/btc which is 8.89btc with this offer we both will have a chance to ROI. If you tell me this isn't a good offer you're in other words saying you don't believe btc will hit $1800 PM me to get the deal done! Escrow by OgNasty, he has done escrow for me on several hardware purchases. Cheers Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $16,000.00 Post by: AriesIV10 on July 04, 2016, 10:50:09 PM Well, if we assume btc will hit $1800 in september, let me buy your farm at that price/btc. so you're asking $16.000, I'll buy it against $1800/btc which is 8.89btc with this offer we both will have a chance to ROI. If you tell me this isn't a good offer you're in other words saying you don't believe btc will hit $1800 PM me to get the deal done! Escrow by OgNasty, he has done escrow for me on several hardware purchases. Cheers You want me to sell you 30 S7 miners and 14 PSUs for $6000? That is Crazy! :D Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $16,000.00 Post by: EnJoyThis on July 04, 2016, 10:57:56 PM Well, if we assume btc will hit $1800 in september, let me buy your farm at that price/btc. so you're asking $16.000, I'll buy it against $1800/btc which is 8.89btc with this offer we both will have a chance to ROI. If you tell me this isn't a good offer you're in other words saying you don't believe btc will hit $1800 PM me to get the deal done! Escrow by OgNasty, he has done escrow for me on several hardware purchases. Cheers You want me to sell you 30 S7 miners and 14 PSUs for $6000? That is Crazy! :D NO, i'm buying them from you for 8.89btc today and you will have $16.000 in september. Hence it will be $26.670 by december this year! Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $16,000.00 Post by: thedreamer on July 05, 2016, 02:05:41 AM You are basing your income potential on 'luck' on a pool, and NOT the real-world minimum income at current levels.
Luck is great, but you can not bank on it. The longer you hold off on selling at a realistic price, the more you're gonna dig yourself into a hole. In a week nobody will even think about paying more than 1/2 for your whole mine. Sorry chief. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $16,000.00 Post by: EnJoyThis on July 05, 2016, 08:23:27 AM I just read in your other thread you dropped your price already to $15,500
Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $16,000.00 Post by: fuzion1 on July 05, 2016, 10:06:02 AM Maybe it is the pool that some of you are doing your estimates that are lower than mine; I am with CKPool. Kano.is CKPool Mar 2016, 129 Blocks, 4.16 Blks/Day Apr 2016, 134 Blocks, 4.47 Blks/Day May 2016, 126 Blocks, 4.07 Blks/Day Jun 2016, 132 Blocks, 4.40 Blks/Day 4.275 average per day (based upon the last 4 months) Today July 4th 2016 my pool (CKPool) hit 4 blocks (we still may hit more). My total Payout was $277.37. $277.37 x 30 days per month = $8321.10. Halving it would be $4160.55 If you would like to do the numbers with the average per day 4.275: $277.37/4=$69.34 per block; $69.34 x 4.275 ave per day = $296.43 ave per day; $296.43 * 30 days per month = $8892.90 ave per month; After halving $4445. I still do not see the $800 - $1000 estimate per month that you are talking about. Another factor is the increase in Bitcoin over the next six months that would negate or at least mitigate the difficulty. Maybe you are just wanting see the price reduced? I am basing my numbers off very rosy inputs into this Bitcoin mining calculator. http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $14,750.00 Post by: AriesIV10 on July 05, 2016, 12:21:05 PM NEW PRICE: $14,750.00
I am with CKPool: Kano.is Average Blocks per day over the past 4 months: * Mar 2016, 129 Blocks, 4.16 Blks/Day * Apr 2016, 134 Blocks, 4.47 Blks/Day * May 2016, 126 Blocks, 4.07 Blks/Day * Jun 2016, 132 Blocks, 4.40 Blks/Day 4.275 average blocks per day Quick Math: Today July 4th 2016 my pool (CKPool) hit 4 blocks. My total Payout was $277.37. $277.37 x 30 days per month = $8321.10. Halving it would be $4160.55 If you would like to do the numbers with the average per day 4.275: $277.37/4=$69.34 per block; $69.34 x 4.275 ave per day = $296.43 ave per day; $296.43 * 30 days per month = $8892.90 ave per month; After halving $4445 ave per month. Another factor is the increase in Bitcoin over the next six months that would negate or at least mitigate the difficulty. --------------------VS------------------------ If you purchased brand new from Bitmain the cost would be: S7 x $440 x 30 = $13200.00 Shipping S7s - $54 x 30 = $1620.00 PSU $140 x 16 = $2240.00 Shipping PSUs $43 x 16 = $688 Total 30 New S7s and 16 PSUs = $17,748.00 + Wait time for delivery + Setup/Startup Issues. ---------------------------------------------- NEW PRICE: $14,750.00 for 30 S7 Antminers and 14 Bitmain PSUs. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $16,000.00 Post by: EnJoyThis on July 05, 2016, 12:33:02 PM The problem with your 'offer' is that you are asking a high price $14,750 is still quite high for 2nd hand gear, no matter how good they run, it's 2nd hand.
And don't forget the buyer has to take over a hosting contract in which he has to make a commitment untill december this year to pay for hosting of those machines. That's a monthly bill to be paid of $2,480 Looking for july till december, that's 6 months or in other words $14,880 So when buying they commit themselves to pay atleast a total sum of $29,630 You better ask your hosting company how much it would cost you to breach your contract and turn it into a monthly hosting contract instead of a year / 6 months. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $14,750.00 Post by: Tupsu on July 05, 2016, 12:51:12 PM NEW PRICE: $14,750.00 I am with CKPool: Kano.is Average Blocks per day over the past 4 months: * Mar 2016, 129 Blocks, 4.16 Blks/Day * Apr 2016, 134 Blocks, 4.47 Blks/Day * May 2016, 126 Blocks, 4.07 Blks/Day * Jun 2016, 132 Blocks, 4.40 Blks/Day 4.275 average blocks per day Quick Math: Today July 4th 2016 my pool (CKPool) hit 4 blocks. My total Payout was $277.37. $277.37 x 30 days per month = $8321.10. Halving it would be $4160.55 If you would like to do the numbers with the average per day 4.275: $277.37/4=$69.34 per block; $69.34 x 4.275 ave per day = $296.43 ave per day; $296.43 * 30 days per month = $8892.90 ave per month; After halving $4445 ave per month. Another factor is the increase in Bitcoin over the next six months that would negate or at least mitigate the difficulty. --------------------VS------------------------ If you purchased brand new from Bitmain the cost would be: S7 x $440 x 30 = $13200.00 Shipping S7s - $54 x 30 = $1620.00 PSU $140 x 16 = $2240.00 Shipping PSUs $43 x 16 = $688 Total 30 New S7s and 16 PSUs = $17,748.00 + Wait time for delivery + Setup/Startup Issues. ---------------------------------------------- NEW PRICE: $14,750.00 for 30 S7 Antminers and 14 Bitmain PSUs. These numbers are beautiful. But you have to understand that your maintenance fees are too high. Exactly the same maintenance fee you can pay in Hashnest. Hashnest Maintenance Fee 2.8169 USD Day 84.51 USD for 30 Day But Hashnest shop price for S7 is today : 450.0 USD Stock: over 300 30 x 450 USD = 13500 USD , No need for PSU. This is faster and much cheaper. After 72 hours miner is online and mine in Antpool. 14750-13500 = 1250 USD higher than cheapest seller in the S7 hosting market. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $16,000.00 Post by: AriesIV10 on July 05, 2016, 01:05:14 PM The problem with your 'offer' is that you are asking a high price $14,750 is still quite high for 2nd hand gear, no matter how good they run, it's 2nd hand. And don't forget the buyer has to take over a hosting contract in which he has to make a commitment untill december this year to pay for hosting of those machines. That's a monthly bill to be paid of $2,480 Looking for july till december, that's 6 months or in other words $14,880 So when buying they commit themselves to pay atleast a total sum of $29,630 You better ask your hosting company how much it would cost you to breach your contract and turn it into a monthly hosting contract instead of a year / 6 months. Very good information. I have checked and the contract must be kept, per the Hosting Agency. Thanks. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $14,750.00 Post by: AriesIV10 on July 05, 2016, 01:28:53 PM NEW PRICE: $14,750.00 I am with CKPool: Kano.is Average Blocks per day over the past 4 months: * Mar 2016, 129 Blocks, 4.16 Blks/Day * Apr 2016, 134 Blocks, 4.47 Blks/Day * May 2016, 126 Blocks, 4.07 Blks/Day * Jun 2016, 132 Blocks, 4.40 Blks/Day 4.275 average blocks per day Quick Math: Today July 4th 2016 my pool (CKPool) hit 4 blocks. My total Payout was $277.37. $277.37 x 30 days per month = $8321.10. Halving it would be $4160.55 If you would like to do the numbers with the average per day 4.275: $277.37/4=$69.34 per block; $69.34 x 4.275 ave per day = $296.43 ave per day; $296.43 * 30 days per month = $8892.90 ave per month; After halving $4445 ave per month. Another factor is the increase in Bitcoin over the next six months that would negate or at least mitigate the difficulty. --------------------VS------------------------ If you purchased brand new from Bitmain the cost would be: S7 x $440 x 30 = $13200.00 Shipping S7s - $54 x 30 = $1620.00 PSU $140 x 16 = $2240.00 Shipping PSUs $43 x 16 = $688 Total 30 New S7s and 16 PSUs = $17,748.00 + Wait time for delivery + Setup/Startup Issues. ---------------------------------------------- NEW PRICE: $14,750.00 for 30 S7 Antminers and 14 Bitmain PSUs. These numbers are beautiful. But you have to understand that your maintenance fees are too high. Exactly the same maintenance fee you can pay in Hashnest. Hashnest Maintenance Fee 2.8169 USD Day 84.51 USD for 30 Day But Hashnest shop price for S7 is today : 450.0 USD Stock: over 300 30 x 450 USD = 13500 USD , No need for PSU. This is faster and much cheaper. After 72 hours miner is online and mine in Antpool. 14750-13500 = 1250 USD higher than cheapest seller in the S7 hosting market. WOW! I did not know this! Although there would be the questions: 1) After installation, Can the miner be directed to any pool or does it have to be Hashnest? 2) Is there full control of the miner by the user? As for the Sale of my 30 S7 miners and 14 PSUs, that is a good price against what I am asking! I will have to consider this information. Thank You for the information! Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $13,500.00 Post by: AriesIV10 on July 05, 2016, 02:49:42 PM NEW PRICE: $13,500.00
I ran the numbers against Hashnest vs My Farm: https://i.imgur.com/GA0qHFC.png So, the big differences are: https://i.imgur.com/LJkpEhR.png NEW PRICE: $13,500.00 Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $16,000.00 Post by: sale666 on July 05, 2016, 03:37:29 PM hmm this is on an edge, i respect your offer mate but i was looking into this as interested in buying but at the price of 13.5k thats todays 20.2 BTC on hashnest i can buy 150TH/S and its instant and mining for me right away...
I understand later you have the actual hardware maybe to mine some other crypto or something.. Still thinking about your offer. Good luck tho! Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $13,500.00 Post by: thedreamer on July 05, 2016, 04:44:20 PM I still think the price is way high, but you can't compare to something as shtty as Hashnest.
Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $13,500.00 Post by: EnJoyThis on July 05, 2016, 05:06:11 PM NEW PRICE: $13,500.00 I ran the numbers against Hashnest vs My Farm: https://i.imgur.com/GA0qHFC.png So, the big differences are: https://i.imgur.com/LJkpEhR.png NEW PRICE: $13,500.00 The 6 months hosting contract is a deal breaker for me. It is a big liability besides the hefty $13,5k purchase amount. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $13,500.00 Post by: Tupsu on July 05, 2016, 05:24:40 PM I still think the price is way high, but you can't compare to something as shtty as Hashnest. I did not say that. Hashnest gave me 10 free coupon for S7 (115 USD piece ) I bought 10 x S7 , I sold off S7 Ghs at the market and I bought S5 Ghs, which I convert to 22x S7 coupon and I got back my investment what I did for 10x S7 purchase. After that I waited from S9 , which never came. Coupon duration was 45 days , and I bought S7 from Hashnest shop. Total 22 I sold off again S7 Ghs at the market. I earned a total of the buying and selling 3.7 BTC two months , and my initial investment was never higher than 10 BTC. Thus, from the 10 free coupon I did 22 free coupon, and after 10 BTC investment, I got back total 13.7 BTC. So 3,7 BTC profit only from 22 coupons. From 22x 115USD=2530USD digital paper , 3,7 BTC real money. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $13,500.00 Post by: thedreamer on July 05, 2016, 06:39:42 PM I still think the price is way high, but you can't compare to something as shtty as Hashnest. I did not say that. Hashnest gave me 10 free coupon for S7 (115 USD piece ) I bought 10 x S7 , I sold off S7 Ghs at the market and I bought S5 Ghs, which I convert to 22x S7 coupon and I got back my investment what I did for 10x S7 purchase. After that I waited from S9 , which never came. Coupon duration was 45 days , and I bought S7 from Hashnest shop. Total 22 I sold off again S7 Ghs at the market. I earned a total of the buying and selling 3.7 BTC two months , and my initial investment was never higher than 10 BTC. Thus, from the 10 free coupon I did 22 free coupon, and after 10 BTC investment, I got back total 13.7 BTC. So 3,7 BTC profit only from 22 coupons. From 22x 115USD=2530USD digital paper , 3,7 BTC real money. LOL. For a measily 3.7BTC I can't believe you wasted all that time wheeling and dealing . Good for you. I sure as heck wouldn't. But we were talking about inflated earnings from the farm and an unrealistic asking price not something completely unrelated. I was interested until this became a hunt for a noob who doesn't know how things work. Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $13,500.00 Post by: AriesIV10 on July 06, 2016, 09:13:09 PM FOR SALE:
30 S7s and 14 PSUs = $13,500.00 USD Already Collocated and sold in place with contract until December 25th, 2016 -OR- 43 S7s and 19 PSUs = $19,500.00 USD Already Collocated and sold in place with contract until December 25th, 2016 Your Choice, Great Deal either way! Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $13,500.00 Post by: thedreamer on July 07, 2016, 01:08:27 AM FOR SALE: 30 S7s and 14 PSUs = $13,500.00 USD Already Collocated and sold in place with contract until December 25th, 2016 -OR- 43 S7s and 19 PSUs = $19,500.00 USD Already Collocated and sold in place with contract until December 25th, 2016 Your Choice, Great Deal either way! Wait. When you say '..in contract until Dec 25th 2016..' does that mean the hosting is paid up until that date? Title: Re: FOR SALE - BTC MINING FARM - 30 S7s Hosted and In Location. $13,500.00 Post by: grue on July 07, 2016, 02:46:29 AM locked because it's a duplicate of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1431973.0.
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