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Title: Precusors of bitcoin: Private coinage during the early industrial revolution
Post by: hugolp on October 22, 2010, 10:28:39 AM
This is a video by George Selgin about the private coinage in the UK just before and during the earlier stages of the industrial revolution. Is one of the best conferences I have seen about monetary history, and the bitcoin community can get some very valuable lessons from it.

The whole video is full of them, but as I was watching it again one struck me: when the system became widely accepted, in spite of government trying to impose its money monopoly, the shops would demand double price if you wanted to pay in government money. Thats how much they valued their private coins. It was the government money that was rejected! I believe the same thing will happen with bitcoin once it gains some traction.

The obvious question is: if this coins were so popular and so useful why did they disappear? Fair question, and the answer is at the end of the video. And this is why bitcoin is such an incredible system, because it would have avoided the fate of this private coins because of its characteristics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gn55fTRXZw

PS: Anyone knows how to embed a youtube video?


Title: Re: Precusors of bitcoin: Private coinage during the early industrial revolution
Post by: johnniewalker on December 22, 2012, 08:48:45 AM
This is a video by George Selgin about the private coinage in the UK just before and during the earlier stages of the industrial revolution. Is one of the best conferences I have seen about monetary history, and the bitcoin community can get some very valuable lessons from it.

The whole video is full of them, but as I was watching it again one struck me: when the system became widely accepted, in spite of government trying to impose its money monopoly, the shops would demand double price if you wanted to pay in government money. Thats how much they valued their private coins. It was the government money that was rejected! I believe the same thing will happen with bitcoin once it gains some traction.

The obvious question is: if this coins were so popular and so useful why did they disappear? Fair question, and the answer is at the end of the video. And this is why bitcoin is such an incredible system, because it would have avoided the fate of this private coins because of its characteristics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gn55fTRXZw

PS: Anyone knows how to embed a youtube video?

As an aside: it was the same during Civl-War US. People didn't know which bond to buy (Fed. or Union), so they just didn't buy any. They hoarded  government coins cause they were gold and silver. So, merchants had to make their own coins They're pretty cool, I have a small collection.


Title: Re: Precusors of bitcoin: Private coinage during the early industrial revolution
Post by: hazek on December 22, 2012, 10:28:43 AM
Watching the lecture now.

PS: Anyone knows how to embed a youtube video?


You can't.

EDIT: what an excellent lecture. Thanks for posting this!


Title: Re: Precusors of bitcoin: Private coinage during the early industrial revolution
Post by: Adrian-x on December 22, 2012, 08:56:35 PM
Thanks


Title: Re: Precusors of bitcoin: Private coinage during the early industrial revolution
Post by: nevafuse on December 24, 2012, 05:49:57 AM
Really good.  Definitely recommend.  Thanks for sharing.


Title: Re: Precusors of bitcoin: Private coinage during the early industrial revolution
Post by: notme on December 28, 2012, 07:35:25 AM
Damn it.

A couple of years ago Selgin was right here (I live in Morgantown, WV, home of WVU).  I'm back in school now and he's not here anymore :(.


Title: Re: Precusors of bitcoin: Private coinage during the early industrial revolution
Post by: notme on December 28, 2012, 09:28:36 AM
Also good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQXeUckvrPM


Title: Re: Precusors of bitcoin: Private coinage during the early industrial revolution
Post by: Raize on December 28, 2012, 08:18:41 PM
These guys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy_movement) thought a currency based on power should exist.