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Title: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: Dash Nation on July 02, 2016, 12:27:19 AM
The #DashNation has been busy fighting each other in a civil war.

Casualties are mounting.

TheDashGuy, creator of the #DashNation website, had a Hearnia and wrote a whiny rage quit post:

Quote from: TheDashGuy, Jun 23, 2016


    @Solarminer stop putting your neck out for me before these cunts target you to.

    I'm done here anyways. And @yidakee is lucky ill never meet his little bitch ass in real life. Fuck this place.

    The whole goddamn project is going to get ruined due to twats like @yidakee. Be warned. Good luck to everyone here, don't forget to kiss the core teams ass if you don't wanna be made a target! TO everyone who thinks I'm a troll, go jump off a cliff. And to everyone else, its been real guys, hope to see you around the crypto space.

    Delete my goddamn forum account please. i'm sick of this place, these people, and this shit drama.

    You are getting youre way good fuckin job @yidakee. I'm literally leaving because of YOU. Grats bitch.

 (https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-this-picture-i-thought-we-were-a-decentralized-project.9229/page-4#post-97802)

Now he knows what it feels like to be targeted by Evan's Gate cult enforcers.

TheDashGuy also admitted to finally realizing everything vertoe said when she left is true (Dash = 100% centralized, shady, golden donkey):

i left because i disagree darkcoin or however it will be called next year is not a decentralized entity. it never was but i ignored it as long as darkcoin was following the same path i was following. the path to total financial privacy. and thats why i am so upset about how this currency is lead by a single person. darkcoin is like an old conservative company with strong hierarchical comamnd structures and a single person on the top of the pyramid. evan duffield. the rebranding using a detergent name was just a step forward in creating something like apple or paypal. fuck this i tell you. what we need is a trustless, decentralized and anonymous currency. darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person. and this reaches deep into the code base.

the core devs were just a bunch of volunteers exploited for the big thing. the extended darkcoin team was the same with even a lower place to sit on that pyramid. and what was the darkcoin foundation again? right, something to reserve some rights on some names and collect money. who nominated and voted for the foundation board? who does even know who are these guys? how did we learn about the foundation? from local news papers! the team listings kept counting names of people nobody ever noticed before. and they never committed anything visible to the community or the repository. and i was spending 25 hours a day monitory everything that happened in the darkcoin community for more than a year. the things going on here are fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity.

i will get out and and will contribute to something decentralized and anonymous. i always hoped darkcoin could fill that void. i cant blame anyone to stay with this project. you are probably investors trying to win a gold donkey. or you are simply trying to exploit every possible vector of profit in the coins space. whatever. you are not here because darkcoin is something it claims to be.

if you disagree with my statement above, i dont care, but answer that simple question: what if evan duffield suddenly announces he quits the project tomorrow morning?

Quote from: TheDashGuy, Jun 23, 2016
    I know see why vertoe left by the way. Same shit. Same problems. (https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-this-picture-i-thought-we-were-a-decentralized-project.9229/page-3#post-97714)

Another casualty is camosoul, who is leaving Dash to spend more time with his boat, having failed to successfully complete the Vending Machine Challenge (https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/hey-assholes.9372/).

Quote from:  camosoul, Jun 23, 2016

    Don't try to push in a direction the core doesn't understand and doesn't care about. If you actually achieve something, they will actively tear it down. Ignore the vacuum DASH is failing to fill even with a feature designed specifically for said vacuum... You don't dare take it upon yourself. Any accomplishment not performed by the core is considered an affront to their control of what was meant to be a piggy bank for the chosen... The more they try to hide it, the more obvious it gets that they're trying to hide it. (https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-this-picture-i-thought-we-were-a-decentralized-project.9229/page-4#post-97820)


Wow, I haven't seen a meltdown like that since Chernobyl!   ;D 


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: btctube on July 02, 2016, 12:33:22 AM
should we expect a price drop later? a lot of users might just buy more dash because of it. sure i would too.


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: americanpegasus on July 02, 2016, 12:34:42 AM
GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!! 
 
But seriously, any of these people are welcome to come support Monero.  We don't have masternodes or built-in profit schemes, but we do offer the most esteemed cryptography in any blockchain coupled with a passionate and welcoming community.  No rivalries will be held over anyone's head - all are welcome in our tent.


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 02, 2016, 12:37:42 AM
So how old is this guy who went on that rant?  Sounds like either a pissed-off teenager or a very pissed-off drunken altcoin pumper.  You just have to love the contentious and juvenile nature of the altcoin scene. Doesn't sound like this crap should affect DASH in any way.  It's already in the dumper, having lost something like 45% of its value in the last month.  Yikes.


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: Spoetnik on July 02, 2016, 02:57:28 AM
GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!!  
  
But seriously, any of these people are welcome to come support Monero.  We don't have masternodes or built-in profit schemes, but we do offer the most esteemed cryptography in any blockchain coupled with a passionate and welcoming community.  No rivalries will be held over anyone's head - all are welcome in our tent.

Oh puuuuhlease gimme break like all that did not sound like Monero too  ::)

Jeezuz you are such as fucking persistent little shameless shill around here  :D

You couldn't just comment you had to throw in a Monero is better join us Billboard huh ?
Why the hell would people jump from a bad cult to an even worse cult ?
Profit ? LOL


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: DrkLvr_ on July 02, 2016, 03:02:41 AM
GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!!  
  
But seriously, any of these people are welcome to come support Monero.  We don't have masternodes or built-in profit schemes, but we do offer the most esteemed cryptography in any blockchain coupled with a passionate and welcoming community.  No rivalries will be held over anyone's head - all are welcome in our tent.

Oh puuuuhlease gimme break like all that did not sound like Monero too  ::)

Jeezuz you are such as fucking persistent little shameless shill around here  :D

You couldn't just comment you had to throw in a Monero is better join us Billboard huh ?
Why the hell would people jump from a bad cult an even worse cult ?
Profit ? LOL


Why the fuck are you constantly defending Dash? Dash fails every shitcoin test including a shill team ramming it down everyone's throat, yet you very seldom have anything to say about it. Why is that?  

Dash is in the top 1% of scammy shitcoins out there and the Devs, founders and marketing scammers involved all deserve to rot in prison. Let's have a little consistency please..

Fuck Dash.


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: Spoetnik on July 02, 2016, 04:40:56 AM
GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!!  
  
But seriously, any of these people are welcome to come support Monero.  We don't have masternodes or built-in profit schemes, but we do offer the most esteemed cryptography in any blockchain coupled with a passionate and welcoming community.  No rivalries will be held over anyone's head - all are welcome in our tent.

Oh puuuuhlease gimme break like all that did not sound like Monero too  ::)

Jeezuz you are such as fucking persistent little shameless shill around here  :D

You couldn't just comment you had to throw in a Monero is better join us Billboard huh ?
Why the hell would people jump from a bad cult to an even worse cult ?
Profit ? LOL

Why the fuck are you constantly defending Dash? Dash fails every shitcoin test including a shill team ramming it down everyone's throat, yet you very seldom have anything to say about it. Why is that?  

Dash is in the top 1% of scammy shitcoins out there and the Devs, founders and marketing scammers involved all deserve to rot in prison. Let's have a little consistency please..

Fuck Dash.

Perceptive much ?

Let me guess.. "my other comments" ?

Then i say for example.. [FACT] Anon coins will never work ! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=853767.0)

I have had comments deleted from their ANN when i said "Invest in Dash & lose your cash"
A couple days ago i pointed out how they have their own trolling & advertising.

The reality is i have not "ignored" them.
It's just that Monero has been a far worse group (as i just said in the comment of mine you just quoted)

..keep it real son ;)

Oh and feel free to show us all where i was defending DASH "all the time"


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: ArticMine on July 02, 2016, 05:27:42 AM
GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!! 
 
But seriously, any of these people are welcome to come support Monero.  We don't have masternodes or built-in profit schemes, but we do offer the most esteemed cryptography in any blockchain coupled with a passionate and welcoming community.  No rivalries will be held over anyone's head - all are welcome in our tent.

I doubt that this will have any significant impact on Monero. As for those who wish to follow this here is a thread in the Dash forum. https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-this-picture-i-thought-we-were-a-decentralized-project.9229/ (https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-this-picture-i-thought-we-were-a-decentralized-project.9229/)


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: ReamDe on July 02, 2016, 05:37:03 AM
So this crap started to spill-over from your dash forum. Nice.


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: TheMage on July 02, 2016, 05:41:23 AM
Vertoe left? Thats upsetting  :(


She seemed like someone with a straight head that was in it not for profit but the ideal (this post validates my point). Anyone know where I can find her to connect again?


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: r0ach on July 02, 2016, 07:04:13 AM
Has anyone figured out what a "Dash Nation" is yet?


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: generalizethis on July 02, 2016, 07:20:31 AM
Has anyone figured out what a "Dash Nation" is yet?

Yes, it's a centralized control system that feigns decentralization with the help of its constituents by means of using their greed as a chimerical illusion of a super-moonbeam-payday when they strike greater fool's gold.


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: vokain on July 02, 2016, 07:25:23 AM
Vertoe left? Thats upsetting  :(


She seemed like someone with a straight head that was in it not for profit but the ideal (this post validates my point). Anyone know where I can find her to connect again?

Vertoe left Darkcoin/Dash over a year ago.


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: BitcoinNational on July 02, 2016, 07:37:49 AM
Vertoe scammed the piss out of CACHe too ... just saying ... if a scammeria logs out of DASH, cuz too scammy,, and then reaffirms her scammy roots, what's that say of the root stock?

Really.  CACHe could have been saved by the investment of 5 DASH (pay for a seed node).  It had promise to challenge DASH tech (lolz).

The bottomline on DASH is = that of ARCH or PAYcoin ... check the numbers yourself.

Has anyone figured out what a "Dash Nation" is yet?

r0ach OK sometimes you say things of eloquence  ;D


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: GTO911 on July 02, 2016, 07:41:15 AM
Dash was built on a heap of scam dump and duff (soul sucking ginger) was in charge, what did you expect?


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: iCEBREAKER on July 02, 2016, 08:00:26 AM
TheDashGuy is known to be a loose canon and cant handle it when people dont do exactly what he/she says.

Oh look, a DashHole cult enforcer appears to attack-the-attacker.  Typical.

TheDashGuy isn't the only one calling BS on Dash.

vertoe did it first.

Camosoul is also fed up.

They were both quoted in the OP, yet you only single out TDG for the invalidation-via-personal-criticism treatment.

Don't forget to "explain" why vertoe and Camosoul's criticisms are merely the result of their massive personal flaws, and thus invalid opinions about Dash.   ;D

Or do you agree with Camosoul's POV?


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: noobtrader on July 02, 2016, 08:02:03 AM
Dash was built on a heap of scam dump and duff (soul sucking ginger) was in charge, what did you expect?

why were u so racist ??? shhhh....


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: Dash Nation on July 02, 2016, 08:13:38 AM
Wow, some epic rants have resulted from frustration over Dash's hopelessly utopian "Digital Democracy" experiment in vacuous marketing hoopla!


https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-this-picture-i-thought-we-were-a-decentralized-project.9229/page-5#post-98030

Quote from: camosoul, Jun 25, 2016
"i thought we were a decentralized project?"

Lets get back to this point.

How can it be decentralized when nobody else does anything?

On one hand, you can blame the core for "centralizing."

But if they're the only ones doing anything, well, uh, it's only "centralized" by proxy of the fact that everyone else is sitting on their ass.

It's exactly the same as 3rd Wave Feminazis complaining that women aren't "represented" in STEM fields.... Well, duh, motherfuckers! Maybe you had gotten a degree that was useful in a STEM field, instead of Gender Studies, you would be the woman representing in a STEM field....

If you want the project to be decentralized, fuckin' do something! I tried to plant DASH seeds with the vending machine, and we see how many community members get off their fat asses to find a retailer willing to host even one such machine...

 :-\ :-\ :-\

That feeling when you realize Dash is nothing but a screen onto which greedy, stupid people project their dreams of avarice.

"But, but, muh distributed Paypal get-rich-quick scheme!"


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: generalizethis on July 02, 2016, 08:24:04 AM
Irony is a coin named after a laundry detergent airing its dirty laundry for all to see.


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: aleix on July 02, 2016, 08:43:05 AM
What a nice surprise, the Monero gang fuding Dash again in the Bitcointalk alt section  :D  :D  :D


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: generalizethis on July 02, 2016, 08:46:33 AM
What a nice surprise, the Monero gang fuding Dash again in the Bitcointalk alt section  :D  :D  :D

Dash's answer to complaints about centralization: Monero. (I love the subtleties of language)


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: iCEBREAKER on July 02, 2016, 08:56:19 AM
What a nice surprise, the Monero gang fuding Dash again in the Bitcointalk alt section  :D  :D  :D

Sorry but in the OP (and linked Dashtalk threads) it's Dash insiders like TheDashGuy, vertoe, and Camosoul bashing Dash, its shitty governance/community, and fake decentralization theater.

Unless you have proof TheDashGuy and Camosoul have joined the Monero gang?

Is it true?   ???


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: DaveyJones on July 02, 2016, 11:09:03 AM
Vertoe scammed the piss out of CACHe too ... just saying ... if a scammeria logs out of DASH, cuz too scammy,, and then reaffirms her scammy roots, what's that say of the root stock?

Really.  CACHe could have been saved by the investment of 5 DASH (pay for a seed node).  It had promise to challenge DASH tech (lolz).

The bottomline on DASH is = that of ARCH or PAYcoin ... check the numbers yourself.

Has anyone figured out what a "Dash Nation" is yet?

r0ach OK sometimes you say things of eloquence  ;D

afaik vertoe´s account was sold or hacked after she/he left Dark...


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: Spoetnik on July 02, 2016, 12:52:51 PM
Has anyone figured out what a "Dash Nation" is yet?

Yes, it's a centralized control system that feigns decentralization with the help of its constituents by means of using their greed as a chimerical illusion of a super-moonbeam-payday when they strike greater fool's gold.

WOWOWOWOW

You got some fucking nerve !

Risto spending MEW donation money on a forum game here with no permission is decentralized ?

WHAT DID I JUST SAY ?

Fuck you guys are scammy ass bullshitters.

@roach
I have no damn idea LOL
And i think we are *usually* on the same page around here..
But if you want my advice avoid ALL anon-coins no matter which one.

Both Monero & Dash have a proven history of working as stated by the OP
There for your ALL full of shit here and your SECURITY is once again compromised
by a CENTRALIZED figure.
(among countless other reasons)

Supporting ANON coins is simply a stupid naive foolish greedy little stunt people.
And you will learn the hard way if needed.


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: Spoetnik on July 02, 2016, 12:59:38 PM
What a nice surprise, the Monero gang fuding Dash again in the Bitcointalk alt section  :D  :D  :D

Dash's answer to complaints about centralization: Monero. (I love the subtleties of language)

Jezuz tap dancing christ your comments are fucking retarded AS USUAL !

Look at page one.. you HYPOCRITE BULLSHITTER

Your Shill Buddy there started it first here..
He had a billboard ad for joining Monero.
So i mocked him for even bringing it up when it was not necessary at all.
So you all went on a tangent with Monero on this topic.
THEN blame them for it.

I am dead serious do you smoke crack or meth buddy ?
Because something is giving you massive god damn brain damage.

LEARN TO READ

Mr i have you on ignore "fungability"


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: BitcoinEXpress on July 02, 2016, 01:12:36 PM
I can't believe people actually think Monero aka Rpietilacoin is still viable...

~BCX~


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: pandher on July 02, 2016, 01:19:58 PM
I can't believe people actually think Monero aka Rpietilacoin is still viable...

~BCX~

No statement by you makes any sense, so ill ignore your bullcrap again


Some crap by you -

"All bull shit aside, no alt has even a .01% chance much less 10%

What I do or do not do will never alter any alt's inevitable decline."


~BCX~


"I do in fact support BBR"


~BCX~

Maybe you should just stay out of the alt section and see Monero go from 2 to 20


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: Spoetnik on July 02, 2016, 01:53:43 PM
I just wanted to add something..

I have always considered most coins to suffer from the centralization problem.
The fact they are anon or not makes no difference.

If one guy holds the keys to Github and 1 guy made it and 1 guy posted it here
then that is not too (de)centralized now is it ?
Centralized exchanges ? Posted on a centralized forum ?

My ONLY point earlier was neither one (or any coin really) is decentralized.

I personally think anon-coins are a bad idea.. so i don't support any of them.
So unlike most of these guy i am not simply bashing one or the other for financial motivations.
I bash them all  ;D
..for my beliefs not for money $$$

Common sense would tell you all that if both groups here kissed & made up
they would both be better off than continuing on with childish drama all the time.
But if that is what they all want then have at 'er.

All i know is i have not had nearly the amount of problems with Dash supporters as i have with Monero supporters.
I don't have Negative Trust Ratings from Dash guys LOL

Problems ?
Admit it.. fix it.. move on.
This has been a massive issue with the Monero users that swirl around the coin.
They insist on pushing a perfect image no matter what shenanigans they are caught up in.
Hell look at this very topic..
The same guys in all the other drama here JUST HAD TO OPEN THEIR MOUTH stiring the pot with drama
again..
These usual Monero suspects *could* have kept their mouth shut and had a bit of class..


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: ArticMine on July 02, 2016, 02:22:22 PM
I can't believe people actually think Monero aka Rpietilacoin is still viable...

~BCX~

What on earth does this have to do with the topic of this thread?


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: GreenBits on July 02, 2016, 02:43:32 PM
Has anyone figured out what a "Dash Nation" is yet?

Yes, it's a centralized control system that feigns decentralization with the help of its constituents by means of using their greed as a chimerical illusion of a super-moonbeam-payday when they strike greater fool's gold.

Irony is a coin named after a laundry detergent airing its dirty laundry for all to see.

You get a cookie, good sir, and can sit with us as well. I just spit out very hot tea involuntarily. LMAO.


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: Nxtblg on July 02, 2016, 05:20:32 PM
should we expect a price drop later? a lot of users might just buy more dash because of it. sure i would too.

Not that I see at Polo. To the extent it sunk, it's sunk with other alts as a result of Bitcoin getting its groove back. Not all that much volume, either.


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: TheDashGuy on July 02, 2016, 06:51:01 PM
For all my Monero Fanbois:

43fn9DhL2eoCzuLz6EUwNoGD7KDbWFEwhAPyMCGJ6wxDZd7ULVodh1fKKiAMyzKLxoZSWMwPwz28yWf Str83dWf3HteRq9p

yea thats right, I got myself a Monero addy JUST to see how much you really love me.

2 threads about me isn't good enough, put your money where your mouth is! I'll be waiting!


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: needmoney90 on July 02, 2016, 06:57:21 PM
For all my Monero Fanbois:

43fn9DhL2eoCzuLz6EUwNoGD7KDbWFEwhAPyMCGJ6wxDZd7ULVodh1fKKiAMyzKLxoZSWMwPwz28yWf Str83dWf3HteRq9p

yea thats right, I got myself a Monero addy JUST to see how much you really love me.

2 threads about me isn't good enough, put your money where your mouth is! I'll be waiting!

This drama is making me want to go long on popcorn futures, but I notice that this is a brand new account. Can we get some verification that this is actually thedashguy, and not someone trying to cash in on the drama? If so, I'll totally donate to the popcorn fund.


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: TheDashGuy on July 02, 2016, 06:58:59 PM
Oh its me for sure.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4qyi33/someone_owes_me_fanboy_tips/



Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: needmoney90 on July 02, 2016, 07:04:09 PM
Oh its me for sure.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4qyi33/someone_owes_me_fanboy_tips/



Check your wallet, TheDashGuy. You've earned it.

Mind responding to BasilPop here (https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4qq06w/100/d4w4rt2)?


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: TheDashGuy on July 02, 2016, 07:39:19 PM
Oh its me for sure.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4qyi33/someone_owes_me_fanboy_tips/



Check your wallet, TheDashGuy. You've earned it.

Mind responding to BasilPop here (https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4qq06w/100/d4w4rt2)?

What am I supposed to say to him? I'm working on getting back into my Monero wallet, but I didn't save my key thinking I could login with an email/password like normal... shit...


brb.

edit: figured it out finally.

Oh and whos moderating this thread? Stop being a nazi! Let the shit fly! Stop deleting the juicy comments!

Who else is going to pledge me some XMR? I'm broke as a joke after all this drama lately and got no funds left for new projects :[

Still needing some funds to expand my cryptofolio to any lovely moneroers: 43fn9DhL2eoCzuLz6EUwNoGD7KDbWFEwhAPyMCGJ6wxDZd7ULVodh1fKKiAMyzKLxoZSWMwPwz28yWf Str83dWf3HteRq9p

Thanks homies!


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: TheDashGuy on July 02, 2016, 09:23:46 PM
This thread is awesome!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4qyi33/someone_owes_me_fanboy_tips/



Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: LiberOptions on July 02, 2016, 09:28:33 PM
I don't know why would the community and the team be in conflict... they have a very nice project and the coin already offes much the same features than Ethreum does...
Dash is very undervalued at this moment. My advice is buy them now, buy them cheap!


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: americanpegasus on July 02, 2016, 09:55:40 PM
I could rant for paragraphs about how Dash is fundamentally broken at every level, but I'll simply call it what is it: 
 
A dishonest pyramid-scheme with broken privacy features. 
 
Note that in this context we even distinguish between honest pyramid schemes and dishonest ones, and fast mining a Smaug hoard of your own currency firmly puts you in the dishonest range - nevermind the pyramid scheme mechanisms of the masternode system. 
 
If you want a 10% annual return on mold, simply don't wash your dishes.  But who's gonna want it once you earn it?  If you truly can't see what is so fundamentally flawed with this blockchain and are letting your greed blind you, you deserve what's coming next.  Consider this your canary in the coal mine.


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: needmoney90 on July 02, 2016, 09:55:57 PM
I don't know why would the community and the team be in conflict... they have a very nice project and the coin already offes much the same features than Ethreum does...
Dash is very undervalued at this moment. My advice is buy them now, buy them cheap!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Charles_Ponzi.jpg


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: iCEBREAKER on July 02, 2016, 10:37:24 PM
I don't know why would the community and the team be in conflict

The community and team are in conflict because they are fighting over the same limited sum of Budget Block coins.

There is also additional conflict because if the core team controls ~everything, the project is obviously not decentralized.


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: Hueristic on July 02, 2016, 11:17:31 PM
Even though I personally think it is foolish to invest in dash I do think "Dash will persist, but on life support" well for a few years anyway.


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: TheDashGuy on July 02, 2016, 11:21:12 PM
I don't know why would the community and the team be in conflict

The community and team are in conflict because they are fighting over the same limited sum of Budget Block coins.

There is also additional conflict because if the core team controls ~everything, the project is obviously not decentralized.


Actually Im sort of one of a few black sheeps in Dash ATM due to my loud outspoken methods.

I still hold Dash, but am a little sad these days not gunna lie.


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: iCEBREAKER on July 02, 2016, 11:25:42 PM
I got myself a Monero addy JUST to see how much you really love me.

2 threads about me isn't good enough, put your money where your mouth is! I'll be waiting!

If you're serious then come over to the Monero reddit with you're usual handle.

BTW, I'm an ex-Dash user too.

Apparently, TheDashGuy is too talented, honest, and hardworking to stay in the Evan's Gate cargo cult; he's simply not a good fit for Team Snake Oil's den of vipers.

EG:

TheDashGuy tried to get Dash onto Stack Exchange, but his fellow DashHoles couldn't be bothered (https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/getting-into-stack-exchange.8864/page-4#post-96222) to get the proposal over 10%.

Quote from: TheDashGuy
Just wanted to give this thread a much needed bump.

You guys are slacking Dash community, we need ALOT more of you over at stack exchange please. Stop thinking "someone else will do it", what is this, the presidential election?


Granted, it took some time and effort to get Monero all the way to 100%, but Dash's sock-puppeting to 10% and quitting is completely fucking pathetic.

There is no chance DuffCoin will get to 100%, because 90% of its supposed community support is actually+demonstrably useless, ignorant, and/or fake.

Dash is a laughingstock and being openly mocked in its own Area51:

http://discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/23498/where-do-all-these-followers-of-the-proposal-dash-come-from

Quote from: Philipp (top 3% this year)
Proposal: Dash

I have noticed that this proposal gained 37 followers in only 2 days after it was proposed. However, when one looks at the list of followers, almost all of them are new users which registered just before they followed the proposal and have not contributed in any other way to the Stackexchange network.

This is a highly unusual pattern, so I believe that the moderators should investigate if these are maybe sock puppet accounts made to fake interest in this proposal.

I suspect that we see another case here of yet another cryptocurrency going through a pump-and-dump scheme where the creator pre-mines some coins, generates hype around it, sells their coins when they get value and then forgets about it.

#rekt


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: needmoney90 on July 02, 2016, 11:38:35 PM
Not going in the anonymity claims but as far I read its bogus.

Their claims of anonymity aren't "bogus", per se, its more that there is no way to validate their claims. Their 'privacy' system is basically a bolted on tumbler system that allocates part of the block reward to anyone who runs a tumbler. Unfortunately, the people tumbling your coins for you can keep logs, and there is no way of cryptographically/mathematically proving that logs were not kept. This is exacerbated by a high likelihood that an individual (or small group of individuals) collectively control a massive percentage of Dash, which, if that is the case, make the privacy benefit near nil in a large percentage of cases, should those individuals choose / be coerced into keeping logs.

I'll stick with my privacy coin that uses actual cryptography, and gives mathematical proofs as opposed to selling me snakeoil, thanks.


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: smoothie on July 02, 2016, 11:45:29 PM
Not going in the anonymity claims but as far I read its bogus.

Their claims of anonymity aren't "bogus", per se, its more that there is no way to validate their claims. Their 'privacy' system is basically a bolted on tumbler system that allocates part of the block reward to anyone who runs a tumbler. Unfortunately, the people tumbling your coins for you can keep logs, and there is no way of cryptographically/mathematically proving that logs were not kept. This is exacerbated by a high likelihood that an individual (or small group of individuals) collectively control a massive percentage of Dash, which, if that is the case, make the privacy benefit near nil in a large percentage of cases, should those individuals choose / be coerced into keeping logs.

I'll stick with my privacy coin that uses actual cryptography, and gives mathematical proofs as opposed to selling me snakeoil, thanks.

Nor from my recollection has there been any reputable independent 3rd party peer review of the claimed privacy and other features.



Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: iCEBREAKER on July 02, 2016, 11:48:19 PM
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We just saw 8k of Dash market dumped and 35k of Monero market bought within a couple of hours of each other. 
 
Has Dashxit 2016 begun? 
 
The thing about the masternode scheme is that it pays to be the first to panic, which incites further panic and exacerbates the problem.

It's not so much the reward for being first, as it is the penalty for not being first.

In the traditional theater metaphor, you end up dying in a fire if you don't move quickly and quietly towards an exit as soon as you smell smoke.

Dash order books are very thin vs the number of Masternodes that may be liquidated/hacked/seized/etc.

Only need 2% of the 4000 total to get dumped and it's Game Over, Man.

The whale intentionally propping the price up at 0.01 looks like he's almost exhausted...

Anybody else getting a whiff of #DashNation burning?


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: needmoney90 on July 02, 2016, 11:55:01 PM
Quote

We just saw 8k of Dash market dumped and 35k of Monero market bought within a couple of hours of each other. 
 
Has Dashxit 2016 begun? 
 
The thing about the masternode scheme is that it pays to be the first to panic, which incites further panic and exacerbates the problem.

It's not so much the reward for being first, as it is the penalty for not being first.

In the traditional theater metaphor, you end up dying in a fire if you don't move quickly and quietly towards an exit as soon as you smell smoke.

Dash order books are very thin vs the number of Masternodes that may be liquidated/hacked/seized/etc.

Only need 2% of the 4000 total to get dumped and it's Game Over, Man.

The whale intentionally propping the price up at 0.01 looks like he's almost exhausted...

Anybody else getting a whiff of #DashNation burning?

http://66.media.tumblr.com/1b828434dae9eeca52080576870ff4b9/tumblr_inline_nf8ucvxIsH1rp8xbw.png


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: cryptodromeda on July 03, 2016, 01:43:23 AM
Everything is okay:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4nHLHDtyVA



Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: stealth923 on July 03, 2016, 05:52:05 AM
Keep deleting my posts so that only Troll posts are in here....good one OP, clearly a targetted FUD campaign

Dash is stronger than ever.....

Lamassu ATM integration almost complete, android wallet update with instantSend support, 12.1 evolution is now in testnet and scheduled for mid-july release, Trezor Masternode hardware wallet integration almost complete, Major business integration press release imminent, d10e conference Evan will be speaking with the Dash vending machine!........thats only the tip of the iceburg as I CBF typing the rest, go find the monthly update for a good read.

Yeah sure its dying....LOL - troll harder.....


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: explorer on July 03, 2016, 06:00:31 AM
Keep deleting my posts so that only Troll posts are in here....good one OP, clearly a targetted FUD campaign

Dash is stronger than ever.....

Lamassu ATM integration almost complete, android wallet update with instantSend support, 12.1 evolution is now in testnet and scheduled for mid-july release, Trezor Masternode hardware wallet integration almost complete, Major business integration press release imminent, d10e conference Evan will be speaking with the Dash vending machine!........thats only the tip of the iceburg as I CBF typing the rest, go find the monthly update for a good read.

Yeah sure its dying....LOL - troll harder.....

Sorry...  Can you repeat that for those that didn't catch it the first three times?


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: needmoney90 on July 03, 2016, 06:04:18 AM
Keep deleting my posts so that only Troll posts are in here....good one OP, clearly a targetted FUD campaign

Dash is stronger than ever.....

Lamassu ATM integration almost complete, android wallet update with instantSend support, 12.1 evolution is now in testnet and scheduled for mid-july release, Trezor Masternode hardware wallet integration almost complete, Major business integration press release imminent, d10e conference Evan will be speaking with the Dash vending machine!........thats only the tip of the iceburg as I CBF typing the rest, go find the monthly update for a good read.

Yeah sure its dying....LOL - troll harder.....

Sorry...  Can you repeat that for those that didn't catch it the first three times?

Making another post so that the obnoxious text is off the screen


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: smoothie on July 03, 2016, 11:18:20 AM
giant butthurt-ness

I guess since Dash is doing so well, that would explain the poll results?  :-*


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: DrkLvr_ on July 03, 2016, 06:04:27 PM
Such quality contributions so far. what can you say about BitcoinShitsprexx.. total fucking moron. Then there`s the resident imbecile toknormal who has such a limited understanding i have trouble believing its even a real person

You just have to feel bad for the Dash supporters bagholders. maybe one day they`ll grow up, but probably not


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: qwizzie on July 03, 2016, 06:45:16 PM
thanks for spreading the word about Dash Nation, i once held a poll and it had this surprising outcome that
all publicity is good publicity....

Publicity can be terrible. But only if you don't have any.
- Jane Russell


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: TheDashGuy on July 03, 2016, 07:32:45 PM

Publicity can be terrible. But only if you don't have any.
- Jane Russell



Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: DrkLvr_ on July 03, 2016, 09:13:05 PM
Dash reminds me of scientology which also gets a lot of publicity.. good job you disillusioned shitcoiners.. aim high ;D


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: iCEBREAKER on July 04, 2016, 03:04:10 AM
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Dash will fail and the project will end     (52.7%)   

Digital democracy has spoken.   8)

Unfortunately, the BU guys were so busy teaching Mandy about the implications of Sybil attacks for Masternodes, they couldn't get into the issues with Dash's copycat "DAO" project.

Oh look, another defector has joined TheDashGuy and Camosoul.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4r2oq9/am_done_with_dash_seriously/

Welcome aboard fxoscentral!

"They voted with their feet." - Vladimir Lenin


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: TheDashGuy on July 04, 2016, 07:08:06 AM
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Dash will fail and the project will end     (52.7%)   

Digital democracy has spoken.   8)

Unfortunately, the BU guys were so busy teaching Mandy about the implications of Sybil attacks for Masternodes, they couldn't get into the issues with Dash's copycat "DAO" project.

Oh look, another defector has joined TheDashGuy and Camosoul.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4r2oq9/am_done_with_dash_seriously/

Welcome aboard fxoscentral!

"They voted with their feet." - Vladimir Lenin

You are welcome. ;]

I have a big write-ip prepared for tomorrow as well, you guys are going to ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT! It's going to be all about Monero and Dash and it's getting its very own thread here and everything! Just gotta polish it up, finish adding some images, its going to be killer bro!

43fn9DhL2eoCzuLz6EUwNoGD7KDbWFEwhAPyMCGJ6wxDZd7ULVodh1fKKiAMyzKLxoZSWMwPwz28yWf Str83dWf3HteRq9p

Loving these $1-2 tiparoos btw guys! You are so nice!

also go checkout my cool intro on steemit! That place is awesome! Who cares about the coin, decentralized social media is a wonderful idea!
https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@thedashguy/thedashguy-is-on-steemit-aka-the-new-reddit-aka-decentralized-social-media-aka-hell-yea-finally


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: stealth923 on July 04, 2016, 08:48:06 AM
I hope you come back to Dash soon TheDashGuy - that is your name after all lol  ;);););););)



Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: DrkLvr_ on July 05, 2016, 12:37:44 AM
http://italianfooddistribution.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/1970/01/ITALIAN-WASHING-SOAP-UK-300x300.jpg

Dash :(


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: Dash Nation on July 05, 2016, 12:42:31 AM
I hope you come back to Dash soon TheDashGuy - that is your name after all lol  ;);););););)

Don't worry, he's back now.

TheDashGuy just can't quit the #DashNation because he loves it when Daniel, kot, and yidakee take turns shitting on him.    

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: stealth923 on July 05, 2016, 01:11:11 AM
I hope you come back to Dash soon TheDashGuy - that is your name after all lol  ;);););););)

Don't worry, he's back now.

TheDashGuy just can't quit the #DashNation because he loves it when Daniel, kot, and yidakee take turns shitting on him.    

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

haha I know - I knew it was a joke on XMR the whole time and they fell for it.....idiots



Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: iCEBREAKER on July 05, 2016, 01:22:28 AM

TheDashGuy just can't quit the #DashNation because he loves it when Daniel, kot, and yidakee take turns shitting on him.    


haha I know - I knew it was a joke on XMR the whole time



Is there a way to tell when TheDashGuy is actually being honest, or is he always dishonest?  Or just always high as a kite?

This seems to be written in a rare moment of sincerity:

Dash is broken, and has an identity crisis.

http://www.thedashguy.com/2016/02/05/dash-is-broken-and-has-an-identity-crisis/

Quote
Dash has an identity crisis. The community is broken, spirits are beaten down and everyone is divided and clueless about the direction in which they should be heading, in the long run.

Everyone who lacks the capacity to see so far into the future that they accept cheap monetary gains instead of unleashing Dash onto the world with their efforts instead of their wallets. Up until 2 days ago, Dash was on board with( possibly still is) Transform PR, a Public Relations firm that has previously done business with other “altcoins” and had very little to show for it.

Some people even say they are just a bunch of great salesman who prey on these smaller altcoins promising the land of riches and fame while only supplying out dated marketing techniques and a bloated approach to PR.

This is not 2002, we have this thing called Dash which is essentially a fuckin skynet of crypto and we are doing what with it? We are hiring a goddamn PR company to fix our broken spirits. And satisfy the majority of people who are yearning for short terms profits.

Moar like "TheDashGuy is broken and has an identity crisis."  :D


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: Spoetnik on July 05, 2016, 02:36:02 AM
Doesn't anybody care Evan has a serious coke problem tho?

Depends.. are *some* coke problems non-serious ?


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: rangedriver on July 05, 2016, 02:46:45 AM
http://www.dashnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/dashnation_post_thumb_sodamachine1.png

It's not just a Coke problem. It's the entire machine.


Title: Re: Typical Dashhole admits to using confidence game to scam 300 Monero
Post by: TechorMarketing on July 05, 2016, 05:05:51 AM
I have a big write-ip prepared for tomorrow as well, you guys are going to ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT! It's going to be all about Monero and Dash and it's getting its very own thread here and everything! Just gotta polish it up, finish adding some images, its going to be killer bro!

After reading your much anticipated write-up my conclusion is that you have harmed yourself more than anyone else:

Quote
"With that being said, I am a 26 year old crypto enthusiast who's been into Bitcoin since mid 2011 if I can remember correctly.. it's been far to long honestly and I had hope of Bitcoin passing the moon by now....but here we are!

I have always been a guy who likes to push the envelope since I was a youngster, from running the woods with my hand-carved stave that said "faster than a cheetah", to my years spent skipping class in middle school to play Final Fantasy 7 (still my favorite game ever), my choice to dropout of highschool."


https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@thedashguy/thedashguy-is-on-steemit-aka-the-new-reddit-aka-decentralized-social-media-aka-hell-yea-finally

Instead of taking the time to learn from research papers written by PhDs (https://lab.getmonero.org/), this typical DASH user and high school dropout decided to scam those who were attempting to help him:

And I hope after reading this the Monero trolls will calm their asses down...because the only reason this story is being written is out of the pure hilarity of it. Otherwise I would have just kept it to myself and giggled all the way to the bank!

Anyways, I'm not the best writer as you can see, so I will just jump right in to the funnies and life lessons.

TheDashGuy,

With all due respect you may have successfully gained 300 XMR in your confidence game, but it is you that missed an important lesson here:

Lao Tsu said "give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime"

You just stole a few fish in the middle of a fishing lesson. Eat well now because you are setting yourself up to be hungry for life.


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: Spoetnik on July 05, 2016, 08:56:46 AM
@TechorMarketing
Ya but he's gettin' them sweet 1 dollar donations yo !!!111


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: Hueristic on July 05, 2016, 08:46:28 PM
Looks like I called a spade a spade.


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: raphma on July 05, 2016, 10:39:08 PM
i still cant understand one thing:
will TheDashGuy change his nickname? ??? ::)


Title: Re: Dash Nation Civil War
Post by: iCEBREAKER on July 15, 2016, 07:27:57 AM
No new votes for a while; this is the apparent community consensus:

Quote
Dash will fail and the project will end    - 43 (53.1%)

Any objections to lock the polls and/or thread?

The results are unlikely to change by much, because Dash hasn't (and probably will never be) fully recovered from its Civil War.

TheDashGuy humiliated the entire community, and is still making (painfully true) snarky remarks about how much better at running the youtube Mandy is than DaoOfSpamtoshi.