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Title: 2013-03-15 BTCGuild Scammed of 1.2k coins
Post by: hardcore-fs on March 16, 2013, 12:00:40 AM
Seems BTC reputation as a scammers haven is well earned.
BTCGuild has a problem on 0.8 upgrade and a number of people took the piss.

https://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=home (https://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=home)


Title: Re: 2013-03-15 BTCGuild Scammed of 1.2k coins
Post by: foggyb on March 16, 2013, 01:04:01 AM
Seems BTC reputation as a scammers haven is well earned.
BTCGuild has a problem on 0.8 upgrade and a number of people took the piss.

https://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=home (https://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=home)

Of course its a scammer's haven. Bitcoin is anyone's haven from fiat. Even a scammer doesn't like inflation, and wants to store and transfer wealth securely and privately in bitcoin.



Title: Re: 2013-03-15 BTCGuild Scammed of 1.2k coins
Post by: kiba on March 16, 2013, 03:32:32 AM
Why does this belongs in the press section? No external media is reporting on the scam.


Title: Re: 2013-03-15 BTCGuild Scammed of 1.2k coins
Post by: julz on March 16, 2013, 03:37:46 AM
I don't even see why this belongs anywhere. Where is the info about the alleged scam other than in the title of this thread?  
What is the link to the BTC guild home page supposed to tell us?


Title: Re: 2013-03-15 BTCGuild Scammed of 1.2k coins
Post by: paraipan on March 16, 2013, 03:59:03 AM
I don't even see why this belongs anywhere. Where is the info about the alleged scam other than in the title of this thread?  
What is the link to the BTC guild home page supposed to tell us?


+1


Title: Re: 2013-03-15 BTCGuild Scammed of 1.2k coins
Post by: Raoul Duke on March 16, 2013, 04:02:31 AM
I only see their homepage. No reference to the scam whatsoever.

And don't fuckin' tell me I have to login, k?


Title: Re: 2013-03-15 BTCGuild Scammed of 1.2k coins
Post by: paraipan on March 16, 2013, 04:07:48 AM
Meh, had an account handy so here it is...


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March 11th Payout Errors Detail
This was posted on the official forum thread at Bitcointalk previously. Those who have already heard about it, this is just a summary/recap, not a repeat event.

On March 11th, an upgrade was being done to move the Merged Mining server to bitcoind 0.8. Previously, upgrading the bitcoind software on a pool server was safe to do live. Simply stopping the old binary, copying over the new one, and restarting it, would keep the pool up and running, and prevent miners from disconnecting.

These updates were done live in the past because the ~30 seconds of "downtime" (a block can't be solved during this brief downtime) was worth the cost of miners disconnecting and possibly being stuck offline/on a backup pool. However, something went very wrong with the upgrade to bitcoind 0.8. The main reason to upgrade to 0.8 was the drastically improved speed of the bitcoin client, which reduces stales and reduced the chance of orphan blocks. This was accomplished with a new database backend, LevelDB. Unfortunately, when upgrading to 0.8, it does not automatically update your old blockchain information. It resync's the blockchain from scratch.

The problem on March 11th was this brief period where the server was resync'ing the blockchain. It was not caught instantly, it took about 45 seconds to notice. During this time, the pool server recorded work at the network difficulty from very early blocks, a difficulty of 1. Users were being awarded 25 BTC per share.

These increased rewards being logged were not caught immediately, and a total of 16 users were able to withdraw 1,254 BTC (the balance of the hot wallet) that they should not have earned. All rewards from this period have since been revoked, but only one of the 16 users has returned any funds (a total of 47 BTC).

This news post was made to keep the incident transparent. The pool suffered approximately 1,400 BTC in losses this week. 1,254 from the error in payouts, and somewhere between 150 and 250 coins from the hard fork event. My plan is to simply absorb these losses, and continue moving forward.

The pool is accepting donations from users as a result of these events. Miners can direct a spare worker or load balance backup to the worker: btcguild_donate . Direct donations are also accepted through the address: 1GuiLdvH3YjJyEExyTmcd7X2nwX7pZvV7a
March 15th, 2013


Title: Re: 2013-03-15 BTCGuild Scammed of 1.2k coins
Post by: enquirer on March 16, 2013, 05:02:11 AM
looks like half of those 1200 coins went to asicminer?


Title: Re: 2013-03-15 BTCGuild Scammed of 1.2k coins
Post by: Gabit on March 16, 2013, 09:40:12 AM
looks like half of those 1200 coins went to asicminer?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49417.msg1612647#msg1612647

So basically, Asicminer got 1k free BTC, are not disgorging?

This is the Asicminer pool right?

ASICMINER mines here and on ozcoin (possibly another pool by now as well).  ASICMINER only makes up about 25-30% of the pool, and they were not overpaid.  Only a small subset of miners on the mergedmining pool were credited too much.  Of those miners, only 16 were able to cash out before the hot wallet was empty.

So, no.