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Title: It is common for a transaction in bitcoin not be noted in Blockchain?
Post by: xventure on July 03, 2016, 05:27:43 PM
Hello guys, how are you? I have a doubt. It is possible a transaction not be annotated by Blockchain? It is today 12 hours UTC, I sent 260,000 bits for another my wallet. But so far not arrived, I seek the transaction id in blockchain and says: "Sorry We Could not find any blocks or transactions matching this hash", but I seek the same id in tradeblock and says that the transaction has not been confirmed. I check in my wallet in blockchain and shows no pending transaction, but in tradeblock shows that the value I sent is pending. Can someone explain to me what happened? It is normal that happen?


Title: Re: It is common for a transaction in bitcoin not be noted in Blockchain?
Post by: Lauda on July 03, 2016, 05:34:21 PM
I can only assume that you're using a 3rd party wallet service. This is not recommended as web wallets are bad and generally less safer in comparison to desktop wallets. If you are using blockchain.info or some other online wallet is very possible for it to occasionally have problems and for your transaction to 'not go through'. If you are using a desktop wallet, regardless of whether it is SPV (e.g. Electrum) or a full wallet (e.g. Bitcoin Core) this should never happen (unless you obviously aren't connected to the internet).

Can someone explain to me what happened?
I assume that it's just a problem with Blockchain.info.


Title: Re: It is common for a transaction in bitcoin not be noted in Blockchain?
Post by: xventure on July 03, 2016, 05:42:51 PM
I can only assume that you're using a 3rd party wallet service. This is not recommended as web wallets are bad and generally less safer in comparison to desktop wallets. If you are using blockchain.info or some other online wallet is very possible for it to occasionally have problems and for your transaction to 'not go through'. If you are using a desktop wallet, regardless of whether it is SPV (e.g. Electrum) or a full wallet (e.g. Bitcoin Core) this should never happen (unless you obviously aren't connected to the internet).

Can someone explain to me what happened?
I assume that it's just a problem with Blockchain.info.

You're right, wallet online are quite unsafe compared the wallets desktop. But the amount sent was just my wallet XAPO for my wallet on the desktop


Title: Re: It is common for a transaction in bitcoin not be noted in Blockchain?
Post by: AgentofCoin on July 03, 2016, 06:51:04 PM
...I seek the transaction id in blockchain and says: "Sorry We Could not find any blocks or transactions matching this hash",
but I seek the same id in tradeblock and says that the transaction has not been confirmed.
I check in my wallet in blockchain and shows no pending transaction, but in tradeblock shows that the value I sent is pending.
Can someone explain to me what happened? It is normal that happen?

Normally, if you pay too little of a miner fee for the size of your tx,
blockchain.info will drop that pending tx from their mempool because they think it is spam,
but Tradeblock and some others will sometimes still carry yours in their mempool.

That is why you can find your tx in one site and not the other.
Normally, it is because you paid too little of a miner's fee (or in this case Xapo paid too little).



Title: Re: It is common for a transaction in bitcoin not be noted in Blockchain?
Post by: yenxz on July 04, 2016, 05:01:20 AM
Hello guys, how are you? I have a doubt. It is possible a transaction not be annotated by Blockchain? It is today 12 hours UTC, I sent 260,000 bits for another my wallet. But so far not arrived, I seek the transaction id in blockchain and says: "Sorry We Could not find any blocks or transactions matching this hash", but I seek the same id in tradeblock and says that the transaction has not been confirmed. I check in my wallet in blockchain and shows no pending transaction, but in tradeblock shows that the value I sent is pending. Can someone explain to me what happened? It is normal that happen?
Its rare happen to blockchain,i never feel delay or long confirmation transaction,i think sometime you need put a note for big transaction,its will better. Good luck with your bits.


Title: Re: It is common for a transaction in bitcoin not be noted in Blockchain?
Post by: kryptqnick on July 17, 2016, 05:39:10 PM
I had this problems. Two of my blockchain transactions just don't appear in the list... I don't know. I can see my money in the wallet and I hope it's alright


Title: Re: It is common for a transaction in bitcoin not be noted in Blockchain?
Post by: avw1982 on July 17, 2016, 06:29:16 PM
I had this problems. Two of my blockchain transactions just don't appear in the list... I don't know. I can see my money in the wallet and I hope it's alright

Its showing like that most of time, When you transfer the bitcoins very less amount of fees and It will take unusual time to complete the transaction and sometime throw online wallet It might get lost also, Try to switch with electrum or and other desktop wallet.


Title: Re: It is common for a transaction in bitcoin not be noted in Blockchain?
Post by: GreenBits on July 17, 2016, 07:39:17 PM
Hello guys, how are you? I have a doubt. It is possible a transaction not be annotated by Blockchain? It is today 12 hours UTC, I sent 260,000 bits for another my wallet. But so far not arrived, I seek the transaction id in blockchain and says: "Sorry We Could not find any blocks or transactions matching this hash", but I seek the same id in tradeblock and says that the transaction has not been confirmed. I check in my wallet in blockchain and shows no pending transaction, but in tradeblock shows that the value I sent is pending. Can someone explain to me what happened? It is normal that happen?

Give this a few days to drop from the mempool. It seems like this was sent with an insufficient fee, they stay stuck on pending forever until they vanish. But, no transaction has taken place until it is confirmed, after a while, if the coins are still in the sending wallet, resend. Contact customer support if your account balance has deducted with no subsequent withdrawal. Database might have assumed the coins made it out.


Title: Re: It is common for a transaction in bitcoin not be noted in Blockchain?
Post by: yayayo on July 17, 2016, 08:05:55 PM
There can be multiple reasons for your problem:

a) You're confusing the service company blockchain.info with the actual Bitcoin blockchain and blockchain.info has a bug.

b) You paid no or an insufficient transaction fee for your transaction to be included into the blockchain - especially if the transaction consists of multiple small inputs that were received a short time ago.

c) At least one of your inputs of the transactions was not confirmed yet.

My recommendation: First wait a another 1-2 days to see if the transaction gets through. If you used blockchain.info contact their support. If you did the transaction with Bitcoin Core try to resend it with higher fees.

ya.ya.yo!


Title: Re: It is common for a transaction in bitcoin not be noted in Blockchain?
Post by: HCP on July 17, 2016, 10:31:37 PM
Hello guys, how are you? I have a doubt. It is possible a transaction not be annotated by Blockchain? It is today 12 hours UTC, I sent 260,000 bits for another my wallet. But so far not arrived, I seek the transaction id in blockchain and says: "Sorry We Could not find any blocks or transactions matching this hash", but I seek the same id in tradeblock and says that the transaction has not been confirmed. I check in my wallet in blockchain and shows no pending transaction, but in tradeblock shows that the value I sent is pending. Can someone explain to me what happened? It is normal that happen?
You're right, wallet online are quite unsafe compared the wallets desktop. But the amount sent was just my wallet XAPO for my wallet on the desktop
Has this resolved itself yet? Is the transaction showing properly now?

From what I see, you sent 260,000 bits from Xapo to your desktop wallet... and the transaction shows on Tradeblock explorer, but it is not showing on Blockchain.info explorer?

For those who mentioned it, I doubt the issue will be a fee problem. You can't specify a fee when using Xapo, as it is actually Xapo who are sending the bitcoins on your behalf. They tend to collate transactions, if possible, and send them out in one transaction from one of their addresses with "proper" fees attached.

Speaking from experience, this is also why searching for your Xapo wallet address in the blockchain probably won't show the transaction. The bitcoins don't get sent from your address... they get sent from one of Xapo's main addresses that they control (this is why Xapo is not a safe place to hold large amounts of Bitcoins... because you don't actually 'own' them... Xapo do and have full control over them). I had the exact same issue when I first moved from Xapo to Mycelium. I started freaking out when I couldn't see the transaction on blockchain.info explorer. Then I did a search for the receiving address and it showed up as being sent from some strange address that I didn't recognise.

Anyway, TLDR; what you need to do when looking for "send" transactions from a Xapo wallet is to search the blockchain for the receiving address that you sent the bitcoins to. This should show the pending inbound transaction.


Title: Re: It is common for a transaction in bitcoin not be noted in Blockchain?
Post by: elite3000 on July 17, 2016, 10:35:04 PM
When a transaction don't get confirmation it will be removed from the blockchain after some time.  Or maybe not enough propagation, so most nodes didn't even see it.

Or it is just a problem with blockchain.info


Title: Re: It is common for a transaction in bitcoin not be noted in Blockchain?
Post by: AgentofCoin on July 17, 2016, 10:43:09 PM
...I seek the transaction id in blockchain and says: "Sorry We Could not find any blocks or transactions matching this hash", but I seek the same id in tradeblock and says that the transaction has not been confirmed. I check in my wallet in blockchain and shows no pending transaction, but in tradeblock shows that the value I sent is pending. Can someone explain to me what happened? It is normal that happen?
...
Anyway, TLDR; what you need to do when looking for "send" transactions from a Xapo wallet is to search the blockchain for the receiving address that you sent the bitcoins to. This should show the pending inbound transaction.

If you read what the OP wrote, you would know your answer does not help him.
The OP asked why the tx id can be found in one blockexplorer but not in a different blockexplorer.


When a transaction don't get confirmation it will be removed from the blockchain after some time.  Or maybe not enough propagation, so most nodes didn't even see it.

Or it is just a problem with blockchain.info

This is incorrect. No transactions are ever removed from the blockchain, that is impossible (in this situation).
Transactions are only dropped from nodes when they do not meet the requirements for that specific node.
If you have no confirmations, then you are just in the mempool pending for a confirmation.
When a tx is confirmed, it is "engraved" into the blockchain.

A Hero Member such as yourself should know better. Tisk Tisk.




Title: Re: It is common for a transaction in bitcoin not be noted in Blockchain?
Post by: Sorrowfox on July 18, 2016, 01:48:13 AM
Hello guys, how are you? I have a doubt. It is possible a transaction not be annotated by Blockchain? It is today 12 hours UTC, I sent 260,000 bits for another my wallet. But so far not arrived, I seek the transaction id in blockchain and says: "Sorry We Could not find any blocks or transactions matching this hash", but I seek the same id in tradeblock and says that the transaction has not been confirmed. I check in my wallet in blockchain and shows no pending transaction, but in tradeblock shows that the value I sent is pending. Can someone explain to me what happened? It is normal that happen?


Hey, I have also experienced the situation that you have mentioned. I  have made a transfer using a bitcoin wallet here in my country and it happens that it took so long before my transaction was confirmed. When I checked the the transaction in blockchain it says that transaction not found. So I asked the help desk of my local bitcoin wallet and she said that it is just normal. After a few hours, my transfer was credited to the wallet where I deposited it. So I guess there is no need to worry.


Title: Re: It is common for a transaction in bitcoin not be noted in Blockchain?
Post by: kryptqnick on July 19, 2016, 07:07:50 PM
I had this problems. Two of my blockchain transactions just don't appear in the list... I don't know. I can see my money in the wallet and I hope it's alright

Its showing like that most of time, When you transfer the bitcoins very less amount of fees and It will take unusual time to complete the transaction and sometime throw online wallet It might get lost also, Try to switch with electrum or and other desktop wallet.
But it doesn't take unusual time to complete, I guess. It takes about a minute. Anyway, thanks for advice