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Title: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: amaclin on July 06, 2016, 09:09:09 PM
I wrote a test script for bitcoin-doubling
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1541191

Unfortunately, all transactions from 14iDe9xhqYh76TRHRHiaWWPdniyaEHhYjj (https://blockchain.info/address/14iDe9xhqYh76TRHRHiaWWPdniyaEHhYjj) are not confirmed

What can I do to confirm them into blocks?
Help me please.


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: Lauda on July 06, 2016, 09:41:28 PM
The first problem that I see here is:
https://i.imgur.com/83XGJx5.png

Secondly, I don't think that there's something that the members could do for you. The problem with your transactions is that you're trying to spend unconfirmed input (repeatedly) which can be easily identified with this 'symbol' (blockchain.info) : https://i.imgur.com/qEqwBrB.png
The problem starts at this TX (https://blockchain.info/tx/f65d87013d8965128e0b6f304cf87480694b7622947b9c3a1c08c834befb5b45), since one of the inputs  is not confirmed (https://blockchain.info/tx-index/159685805/0).


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: amaclin on July 06, 2016, 09:44:58 PM
The problem starts at this TX (https://blockchain.info/tx/f65d87013d8965128e0b6f304cf87480694b7622947b9c3a1c08c834befb5b45), since one of the inputs  is not confirmed (https://blockchain.info/tx-index/159685805/0).
Should I increase fees?
Isn't 0.0002 BTC for 458 bytes enough?


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: Lauda on July 06, 2016, 09:46:59 PM
Should I increase fees?
I assume that the address in question "3BpHnKpc4GeufHTepDBfnirCD22WRqVGii" isn't yours? If that is the case, then increasing your own fees wouldn't actually do anything.

Isn't 0.0002 BTC for 458 bytes enough?
That seems fine. More information is coming in the next post.


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: amaclin on July 06, 2016, 09:48:43 PM
I assume that the address in question "3BpHnKpc4GeufHTepDBfnirCD22WRqVGii" isn't yours?
If that is the case, then increasing your own fees wouldn't actually do anything.
This is my address.
But you may use it also, if you wish.  ;D


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: Lauda on July 06, 2016, 09:54:45 PM
Isn't 0.0002 BTC for 458 bytes enough?
20000 satoshis for 458 equates to ~43 satoshis/byte which is under the recommended 70 satoshis/byte now (https://bitcoinfees.21.co/). However, there aren't that many unconfirmed transactions in these ranges at the moment so it should be fine. However, increasing the fee is recommended in case that you want very quick confirmations.

I assume that the address in question "3BpHnKpc4GeufHTepDBfnirCD22WRqVGii" isn't yours?
This is my address.
Okay, so next time increase the fees a bit and it should be fine. May I ask what wallet you are using? I've checked 3 other blockchain explorers and they didn't show the unconfirmed transactions from "14iDe9xhqYh76TRHRHiaWWPdniyaEHhYjj ".


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: amaclin on July 06, 2016, 10:07:31 PM
Okay, so next time increase the fees a bit and it should be fine. May I ask what wallet you are using?
I do not use wallet.
I create transactions by hands  ;D


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: amaclin on July 06, 2016, 10:20:50 PM
The first problem that I see here is:
https://i.imgur.com/83XGJx5.png
WTF?
I see only -32 / -5 trust rating in my profile
https://i.imgur.com/P9gGlrr.png


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: Lauda on July 06, 2016, 10:23:53 PM
I do not use wallet.
I create transactions by hands  ;D
Really? Then I assume that you use blockchain.info to push your transactions? That might be the reason for which I don't see them on other explorers yet.

WTF?
I see only -32 / -5 trust rating in my profile
This is off-topic to this thread and should not be discussed here. These ratings depend on the trust settings of each user.


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: Quickseller on July 07, 2016, 12:21:21 AM
What can I do to confirm them into blocks?
I am fairly certain that you are playing stupid and that you know exactly why your transactions are not confirming. I am fairly certain that you intentionally created an invalid transaction that will never confirm that some block explorers (including blockchain.info) treats as valid.

The transaction in question that needs to get confirmed is 519a70ba4ac00303a97bedfd82bec31f288773a16603f57ced0f8b7522e5e32d (http://blockchain.info/tx/519a70ba4ac00303a97bedfd82bec31f288773a16603f57ced0f8b7522e5e32d), and no I will not get it confirmed for you.


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: amaclin on July 07, 2016, 04:54:30 AM
I am fairly certain that you are playing stupid and that you know exactly why your transactions are not confirming.
1) What does 'stupid' means? (Sorry, google translate gives me very strange results)

2) Yes, I know.
But I have a right to ask about it.
And I want to give you some knowledge.
I am asking "What can I do to confirm them into blocks?"
I am not asking "Why these transactions are unconfirmed?"

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I am fairly certain that you intentionally created an invalid transaction that will never confirm
that some block explorers (including blockchain.info) treats as valid.

I am fairly certain that Satoshi Nakamoto intentionally created an 'financial system' that will never success
that some people treats as revolutionary technology.
Go on.

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The transaction in question that needs to get confirmed is 519a70ba4ac00303a97bedfd82bec31f288773a16603f57ced0f8b7522e5e32d (http://blockchain.info/tx/519a70ba4ac00303a97bedfd82bec31f288773a16603f57ced0f8b7522e5e32d), and no I will not get it confirmed for you.
It is confirmed. Go on.


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: Lauda on July 07, 2016, 05:54:11 AM
I am fairly certain that you are playing stupid and that you know exactly why your transactions are not confirming.
In that case, I may have spent a bit too much time in an attempt to help out. That's unfortunate, thanks for pointing that out.

I am fairly certain that you intentionally created an invalid transaction that will never confirm that some block explorers (including blockchain.info) treats as valid.
There was no indication of anything 'invalid' about that transactions that needed confirmation, thus it has finally confirmed. From what I had seen, the fees we just generally a bit lower than expected and it took a bit longer to confirm.

I am fairly certain that Satoshi Nakamoto intentionally created an 'financial system' that will never success that some people treats as revolutionary technology.
You don't understand the values of this technologies, however that is a subject for another thread.


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: Quickseller on July 07, 2016, 07:05:35 AM
I am fairly certain that you are playing stupid and that you know exactly why your transactions are not confirming.
1) What does 'stupid' means? (Sorry, google translate gives me very strange results)
You are pretending to not know the answer to your question.

2) Yes, I know.
But I have a right to ask about it.
And I want to give you some knowledge.
I am asking "What can I do to confirm them into blocks?"
I am not asking "Why these transactions are unconfirmed?"
Okay, give me some knowledge.

If my assumption that one (or more) of the parent transactions that sent btc to 14iDe9xhqYh76TRHRHiaWWPdniyaEHhYjj either is nonstandard or break consensus rules, and based on your history I think I this is a good assumption, then you will need to change the consensus rules

It looks like you might have "forgotten" to sign f65d87013d8965128e0b6f304cf87480694b7622947b9c3a1c08c834befb5b45 with your multisig addresses.

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I am fairly certain that you intentionally created an invalid transaction that will never confirm
that some block explorers (including blockchain.info) treats as valid.

I am fairly certain that Satoshi Nakamoto intentionally created an 'financial system' that will never success
that some people treats as revolutionary technology.
Go on.
What is your point? Also this is off topic here.

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The transaction in question that needs to get confirmed is 519a70ba4ac00303a97bedfd82bec31f288773a16603f57ced0f8b7522e5e32d (http://blockchain.info/tx/519a70ba4ac00303a97bedfd82bec31f288773a16603f57ced0f8b7522e5e32d), and no I will not get it confirmed for you.
It is confirmed. Go on.
Okay I was wrong about which transaction was invalid, and depending on how complex that p2sh inputs are, I may still be wrong.

The rawtx for f65d87013d8965128e0b6f304cf87480694b7622947b9c3a1c08c834befb5b45 is:
Code:
 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
and when I try to decode this with both electrum and coinb.in, I receive messages saying that the transaction is not signed (is partially signed)


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: shorena on July 07, 2016, 07:20:42 AM
-snip-
I am asking "What can I do to confirm them into blocks?"
-snip-

Keep rebroadcasting the transactions, either via the known interfaces/APIs or with your own node. I didnt look deeply into each TX so I might be missing something, but besides a slighly low fee they seem to be fine. If you used a (ponzi) script to create them, consider only using confirmed inputs as chains after a certain length (25?) get refused by nodes past a certain version (0.12?). Dont know the exact number, but I think you get the idea. Not gonna work here.

-snip-
It is confirmed. Go on.

Time to wait for the next in the chain -> https://blockchain.info/tx/f65d87013d8965128e0b6f304cf87480694b7622947b9c3a1c08c834befb5b45

Edit: might take a while...


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: amaclin on July 07, 2016, 07:25:37 AM
I didnt look deeply into each TX so I might be missing something
Nobody looks deeply.

What is your point?
I want everyone to look deeply.


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: shorena on July 07, 2016, 07:40:35 AM
I didnt look deeply into each TX so I might be missing something
Nobody looks deeply.

We usually dont deal with TX that create this many sig-ops. Hope that does not spoil it for the others, but did you contact bc.i about it?


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: amaclin on July 07, 2016, 07:50:43 AM
We usually dont deal with TX that create this many sig-ops.
You should look deeper.


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: shorena on August 03, 2016, 05:43:57 PM
We usually dont deal with TX that create this many sig-ops.
You should look deeper.


I actually did. Can you (or anyone else) confirm: The TX can never confirm because tx.nversion must be >= 2, but its 1.

-> https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0068.mediawiki

I came back here after seeing this -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1574127.0


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: amaclin on August 03, 2016, 05:59:57 PM
I actually did. Can you (or anyone else) confirm: The TX can never confirm because tx.nversion must be >= 2, but its 1.
good.
and bc.i does not check it with OP_CSV


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: sho_road_warrior on August 03, 2016, 06:03:57 PM
I actually did. Can you (or anyone else) confirm: The TX can never confirm because tx.nversion must be >= 2, but its 1.
good.
and bc.i does not check it with OP_CSV

no they don't, they don't even show the Version when decoding a raw tx.

its not in the dev guide nor the wiki, only found it in the bip code


Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: amaclin on August 03, 2016, 06:09:34 PM
its not in the dev guide nor the wiki, only found it in the bip code
bitcoin community voted for it with a hashpower. why don't you know about it?  ;D




Title: Re: Can anybody help me to confirm my transactions?
Post by: sho_road_warrior on August 03, 2016, 06:16:22 PM
its not in the dev guide nor the wiki, only found it in the bip code
bitcoin community voted for it with a hashpower. why don't you know about it?  ;D


Im lazy and BIPs are boring. So you have 1000 btc? dont tell me, its more fun if I dont know.