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What do you prefer more child working in some work place or child begging in a street

Slaves are a good thing especially black and arab slaves.

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Begging on the street is kind of job too. But it depends how dangerous the other job is for child.
If the job is dangerous then it is better to beg, but if it is safe to do the work as child and it pays more then it is better than begging.

If a child has to beg then they have terrible parents that allow this, they should not have had any children in the first place.

No kids, no problem.

But what do you think about legitimacy. In my country child labor is totally illegal but I see most of children begging in the road. If they are earning by begging why child labor is not legalised.

I think in street we can find more children who is orpahane than the children who are send by their parents. And orphan are compelled to do such jobs. They should necessarily choose one to live their life.

If there is many poor children their parents are probably poor too.
And they are allowed to work so the problems probably is that there isn't enough work and wages are low.
Allowing child labor might lower wages even more because there would be much more people looking for work but same amount of jobs as now.

When me and my partner decided to have children, we did when we could afford it.
So they are planned, and not just having kids for the sake of it, it was very expensive throughout but we managed.

Now they have grown up, they do what they want, none of them have children at the moment, because of financial issues, I am happy that they have some common sense.

It was very hard to raise them, and not recommended if you do not plan for the future.

I wouldn't have minded going to work instead of school. I didn't learn nothing and was out 10 hours a day. May as well get some money for your time instead.

Lol both are really wrong,but i actually think that i prefer child
working in some work place.
Anyway the governement should help him to continue education,right?

What country are you talking about here, I may have misjudged this thread.

Children should be in school not working or begging. Governments should provide free school and dormitory to children's who can't afford.

I prefer kids work than beg in a street. come on. street is not a comfortable and safe place for kids. it's better for them to work in a zoo, for instance, feed up animals or deliver drink or food in a restaurant than beg for money. they can do simple and easy jobs depend on their skill, capability of, and age.

If i must choice one from both option, I prefer to not pick because give so much nicer than they do both it ;)

In my opinion a person who earns good with the use of children is the real beggar than the one in streets begging to fulfil his daily needs due to his inability.

I prefer a honest wage for honest work.

Kids shouldn't be working, unfortunately some countries they have to right now.

But we are all buying nike shoes, puma shirts, costume jewelry and more which are produced cheap by kids and sold as high end quality in the west.

Ideally, I think it should be up to the child to decide although he/she would probably feel pressured if the suggestion came from his/her parents. I don't think there is anything wrong with children working or begging as long as they do it of their own volition. If they are forced to work or beg then my answer to your question would be neither.

i think both have worst effect on the society. in most of the third world countries you will see these both in a large number. the reason is very simple. poorty is the main reason of child labouring and child begging, the govt of these countries cannot provides the basic needs of life. they have to earn and support them self through this

Without a single hesitation, I prefer children working than begging. Children begging in the street should be taken away by all means. Working children can become responsible adults but I doubt it's possible with those begging.

Child working. What is wrong with newspaper job? I don't suppose you are talking about heavy physical labour?  ???

who cares about child if they not your kids, what we must care about them. kids just make you dizzy with the behavior and with their voice.

Child labor is a NO. Government support for this children should be prioritized as they should be in school learning some skills. Work after school is OK as long as the environment is conducive,safe for them to learn and grow. This could them a good habit to be industrious and be trained at an early age.

It depends on the situation of the child. For example his/her parents cant work because they're sick or paralytic, can they parents have a choice? For me its in the situation of the child. If his/her parents can still work, why will they allow their child to beg or to work. They should not have a child if that kind of life is they can provide with their child.

Of course, children should go to school and learn and not to work or beg in the street. Parents responsibility is to make sure that they will always keep safe their childs and give them their basic needs. Now, when it comes to a scenario that both parents have disabilities or any illness, maybe I'd prefer working in a job. But, the job should be safe and the child can bear.

I prefer children not to work at all, child begging is worse than child labor and in our country goverment not allowed such things happen, if a teenager work a minor job like sending newspaper or become a tutor at free time still can be tolerate

Labour is always better that begging,there is nothing worse for someone to beg.
I dont think that young people need to beg,i know it is sick to accept the fact that child needs to work,but begging is even worse right?
however it is only my opinion in this topic.

People under the age of 18 shouldn't be hired as a labor. This can hamper their mental and physical health. I can't even choose Child beggar.
These stuffs can damage the career of the child and have a lifelong impact. If we look at the world more that 50% of the population is living in poverty. And 1% of the population own more than 90% of the total wealth. So, all these child problems could be solved but the greediness has taken in the most of the people.

Wow, I wonder how your empathy works. What if the situation puts you on the shoe of the kid. I wonder how painful you are hearing those words. I know we neglect people that surround around us if we don't know them but if you have the capabality to help then why not.

i also agree with you. but to me i think both the element of third world countries. the reason is the poverty and social injustice. and the two element are present in the third world countries.

It's not about empathy works.
easy for example : if you find a kids in a street and they want to have xbox 360 then you should buy them? where is they parents, what for they life?
easy to say something, show it first if you can do like that.

In my country childrens from 15-18 years can work legal after school really easy jobs and they earn per hour more money they adult parents because they dont need to pay country fee.Also if they need money in school time they work in black market which I think that it is better than begging in street.Some girls in my country from 15-18 years are smoking a dick to earn 10$ or sex for more money but that job isnt good they shoud better stop that.That girls which are fck for money are not poor with money that girls have money for food...but they dont have money for going out...so stupid  to do that job

IMO both are not acceptable since its parents responsibility but if i were to choose i would choose child labor. The income that he/she can make is stable for example being a maid.

If children are begging on streets and people are okey with this it gives some clues about how messed the system of that country up. If a child is allowed to work under hard physical labour that means country is very shitty already.

And all of you said above already happen in my country
There are so much children come to the streets and begging at traffic light, I think what makes they still begging is people whoe drive in street still give them money. If no people give money i am sure they will not begging anymore
Child labour in my country is because their parents cant give them their basic need

Those children receiving money by begging will turn into a big danger for society when they grow up uneducated and thinking people have to give them money at traffic or streets or smt. Dark future..

Yes its trus
For you know there is not only children who beg on street, many adult people doing the same
Still, it because people give them money. Sometimes adult people bring their children too and begging with them

Frankly speaking both labor and begging are not good for a child but if I need to choose I'll rather choose labor because the money he/she'll earn could be used either on his/her school, or food which is good compared to begging which it depends on the money of other people and waiting for a blessing without doing anything. Both are not tolerable in my country, this kind of child's have the worst parent at all.

While I prefer the first, i think the department intended to address such issues are the ones to take responsibilities.
Giving the kids time to play is also important.

Im sorry to inform but theres no value for children then.

I think it is better if a child already working at the young age.  It means they are doing something to help their parents.  They knew how and what life they have.  It can be a good sign that when he grows up, he will not be dependent on other peoples alms and mercy.  They knew how to make a living.

Its not such good if child gets tired by working cant focus on education enough.

Kids must focus on education rather than working on earlier stage but  it depends on the circumstances  or state of living of a family. If their parents could not give proper education to them then thats the time  he decide for himself either she/he chooses to have work so that he could sustain his education. Its sad but  its a reality.

Going through this thread shows that most people don't care at all about the plight of children. We were once children and we have been brought up in different backgrounds. No one chooses where he/she is supposed to be borne, we just found ourselves where we are. The children you see in the streets are not there by choice, but they are forced by circumstances, same to their parents. If they had a choice, then they would have been bone in rich families. The point is, no child should be subjected to any kind of labor, begging on streets included. If you can't give a helping hand, just pass and let the next person do it.I appreciate those kind people who have started children homes to cater for this kind of children.

absolutely, i dont prefer both because a chilh must stay as a child. he or she should play in the playground, be naughty and stay on their mothers arm . child labor and child beggers must be banned..

Well if the child loves what he do then we should leave the child alone. What if for example the child want to work because he has reasons that maybe good enough as an excuse and make him do what he want.

Small jobs after school or volunteerry activities are okey

As what I said, as long as long they love and passionate and what they do that will be great and fine. Even it is not a type of work like running all day or lifting heavy things. If you have passion on what you are doing then what's the excuse all about?

Neither. Children have to play, they have to learn a little and play again.
Unfortunately we take their childhood and teach them become - like we also are - slaves for money.
And begging, working and even too much school falls into that category.

When i was a child my grand parents had a farm i was helping them there all summer. they were paying me for this and buying me books to read as well. I never felt like working tho.

i think both are the element of third world countries. you can see the child labour and child begger in the poor countries. as they cannot support them and cannot afford their study expenses. other reason is that they are the source of income for their parents.

May be, but since I do live in a country not so far from 3rd world, I know this reality.
But it depends on the parents really. Some work more to offer what they can to their kids, some other make 6, 8 maybe more and use them sa extra income. Some even sell them: some go to proper families, but most end up begging in big cities or even rich countries.

Both options are not good for any child but the main problem is that we should be more responsible before taking an important decision to have a child. In developing countries, population is a big problem

In most cases parents directly exploit their children because of money.
It's their way of life, unfortunately.
Police can catch them but what they can do?
Put small children in the prison?
Punish parents and separate them from children?
There is no easy choices here.
Only way is to help this children to go to the school, educate them and help them to find real job and get rid from such tradition and culture.

Child bookseller, as I prefer calling it. They would get a chance to read what they sell. Also, allowing them to visit various places and earn a living. That's the best I can come up with.

Quite interesting that failed states and societies can still manage to give their citizens access to the internet.

Bread and games i guess.

Child working in some work place is more dignifying and safer than begging. A child who begs will easily fall prey to predators, and people who had to work from their childhood often have a level-headed outlook to life.

Both are not healthy for the child. Parents should not let their child work in the streets nor beg for money to live. Adults can look for other means of making money. Unfortunately, there are other adults who make money in the streets then gamble it anyway.

Where the environment is extremely cold I would rather see the child working than begging. Such as alaska. However in extremely hot countries, I would rather see the child begging because I feel it would be safer than working in a sweatshop

Neither of the two. Parents should be responsible for their children,providing for them and doing their best to send them to school. Education is the key so that children will learn what's right and wrong and to learn more about society. If the parents can't provide for their children then they should never have made a child in the first place.

But if in the situation wherein it's not the fault of the parents why they can't provide for them then I will choose child laboring because in this way, the child will learn that hard work is important to succeed unlike begging that the child will just depend on other people to have something.But in child labor, the work should just be appropriate for a child not the work of an adult or those tiring jobs that might compromise the health of the child.

I feel the same, i think work is better than begging.

Most people >90% eventually end up in  labour, so the 12 year school system is really worthless.

They should have just gone to work and maybe earn some money by 18 to start a family, instead of being indebted and broke by the time they finish school.

There is certain time for everything, time for study and time to work. Education is important to each and every child. Child labor and begging both are bad in my opinion as both hurts the child much.

Even though both are social vices that should not be condone in any sane society,I will still go for child working rather than child begging because from my own school of thought, there is no dignity in begging in what ever form or whatever person or category... My 2 cents...

Children should not work and do not have to beg. To feed, clothe and pay for the education of children whose parents have. Why do they give birth to children, if they can not grow. When children grow up, they are required to reimburse parents. What is difficult to understand?

Most idiots should not be having children, that's so plain to see but everyone thinks they're the exception.   I think birth control hormones should be put in the drinking water worldwide.

Proper education I think would be better, or a cash incentive to not have children for x amount of years, with that cash, you could have started up a small business, enough to bring a child into the world, and one that would be educated to a decent standard.

Nothing wrong with birth control, pill and condom is a real plus.
Controlling hormones with some unknown chemical in the drinking water world wide, would have devastating effects on the future of humanity don't you think.

Don't think that labor children are those miserable kids with dirty clothes... NO NO NO !!!
 
The new "camouflaged" way of children exploitation appears nowadays through the making of adolescent stars who enjoy being models while their makers gain the maximum amount of money before throwing them behind the scenes and recreating another "fresh" star who keeps their money going in their accounts.

NO, 90% of the curriculum is worthless reiterated nonsense that they will never use in their lives.

How come we have division of labour, but we dont have division of knowledge and shove every crap in the heads of the kids? I guarantee you 90% of the kids would be better off to get into the workforce at 13-16 and start improving their skills, and earn enough money by 18 to start a family.

Only 5-10% of kids are eligible for higher education in my opinion.

why should you even choose between them ? children should not work because they can not endure the hardness in those jobs which most of them depend on physical work.
and begging is just a humiliation for any one especially children.

You are right. Children should not work at all. And requested to submit in the street, it was too humiliating. Parents need to help children grow. But when the children grow up, they will be required to help their parents. This is the best rule. So it was always so, and it should remain.

But being in a school forced against your will with people who you dont like is not humiliating at all?

yes that is right, child should not do work nor beg,  i think these two are the dark aspect of third world countries, it is the responsibility of the state to provide all facilities of education to every child they should give stipend to poor students who cannot fulfill their expenses, and it is the responsibility of every state that they should implement a rule not to allow child labour in industries and shops or any other place and take strong  action against those who are breaking the news,

What do you think, to learn, to gain the necessary knowledge, it is humiliating ?! If you think so, do not go to school and do not let their children go. They believe that it will thank you when they can not get a job. Because they will not know anything. ;D

Hey! Teachers are only people. They only teach things that some other moron taught them. Who knows if it is right or wrong?

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I prefer to child ti work on internet like example they should use sites online where they can earn money without making any deposit likw example ptc sites and  revenue share sites are best for fast earning anv signature campaign.

Good thinking. Kids are great on the Internet. Now, if you can only keep the kid in your custody, and teach him everything at Warrior Forum (http://www.warriorforum.com/), the kid will make you rich.

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You learned to write to read on their own? Of course, someone has taught you to read and write. You see other people? You understand other people? Your teacher did poorly potamu that taught you to read and write? Perhaps your teacher did a bad thing to teach you to read and write, if you say so about his teacher.

The problem with this thinking is, it cause kids to be dependent on someone else to teach them. Rather, boot the kid in the rear, so that he has to learn on his own. Then he will learn how to learn without anyone teaching him.

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No, it's humiliating to go forced against your will to school, because it looks like you are a slave.

Not to mention being in an artificial enviroment with people who you dont like it is humiliating.

School is like prison.

Of course, you can hire a private teacher of the child. Maybe, when the teacher will teach only one child, the training will be better. But who will then teach the child to communicate with others? But when he grows up, he will be able to work in a team? Total school teaches the child not only to science, but also helps to adapt to society. You want your child to be smart but lonely all my life ?!

This is where such schools, where people become slaves ?! How are you going to teach a child science, if not force him to learn ?! Reassure your child? Giving money to a child? Children do not like to study. And often, the children are very spoiled. The school teaches the child discipline. The school teaches the child to listen to and respect their boss. The school teaches the child that the high quality of the work, everyone gets a good promotion.

I work with a former school teacher who thinks like this. But the general form of American schools are wrong, at least as far as the children are concerned. Consider http://www.wired.com/2013/10/free-thinkers/.

In addition, Google "Don Tolman children photographic memory" and look here for starters http://thedontolman.com/blog/ near the bottom of the page where it says:
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You can still teach them voluntarly in a more civilized style. There is no need to force people to go to school, I would have wanted to go to work by 12, I could not, i was forced to sit in the desk and learn literature...

The school I went too had steel bars on the first and 2nd floor windows (and the sport field was far away enclosed with a big fence, so the bars were not put there to stop balls breaking windows, but to keep the slaves inside). Not to mention 2 big prison security guards with rubber-batons sitting in the entrance and not allowing you to leave (even if you already hit 18 ffs). By 12th degree everyone was 18 so you were already responsible for your safety, but no, you still could not leave without teacher authorization. I literally felt like a prisoner. Fuck that, it was very humiliating. It was long time ago, but I still have PTSD from that prison life.

That sums it all up.

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If you really care about children, you don't enslave them in the first place ok? Stop virtue signalling!

I am not american but it's the same shitty school system in  the entire world, modeled after the Prussian school system, to train factory workers and obedient slaves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_education_system

That is all it is, a slave training camp. Society is literally enslaving children, and nobody cares about it. Everybody thinks it's absolutely normal.

I will go for child laboring because, for me, it will help him to work hard and pursue his dreams.  He/she already had the experience and the idea how hard life is.  This child will definitely work hard to remove him/herself in that situation.  Unlike begging, this will just make him to depend to people's alms on his entire life.

◆ Begging is psychically destructive and destroys self-esteem, not to mention ambition and goal in life.

◆ Work can teach you discipline, and can make you happy if you do what you love to do. Not to mention career opportunity and skill improvement.

◆ School is a slave indoctrination camp, that makes children obedient slaves and to have no goals in life.

If you are parent of that child is that good to your eyes to see your soon/daughter begging on the street? I think its a big no. And letting them work I think it depend, if your child is already reached their age then its good to see them working for their future, but then if they are still young and they are already working its a "CHild Labor" which is not allowed in our country.

i don't think there's a better choice between these two as children are not supposed to be either begging or working. they should be provided for by their parents while they study and play.

We are all against child labour but if I have to choose between child working or child begging I prefer child working in some work place because begging will make him useless, while from working he will learn something which may help him in future.

They're both really bad things but it depends on what kind of labour is it, here in Turkey streets are full of Syrian beggars, including lots of children and they're usually being forced into this...

A child should be able to enjoy his childhood not worrying about anything but sadly this is not the case especially in third world countries where children have to do something to earn money and if I would have to choose it would be to work than begging. By working, he will not depend on other people and will have to work hard to earn but his job should fit on his age and not something that only an adult should do. At least with child labor, he will learn that in order to earn money he should work hard for it and he will give more value to what he is earning compared to begging.

That is because Turkey refuse to provide any sort of welfare payment to the refugees. The only option for them is to beg for money. The European Union has agreed to provide Turkey funds worth some €20 billion to help the immigrants. However, the Turkish government has diverted most of this money to other uses, and some of it have been stolen by the corrupt officials.

I think this is a very hard question.
Childs shouldnt beggar or labour at all, however i think that it is better when they work, because they learn things, they are in community.
If they are begging, all they are learning is that they dont need to work- just go on streets, beg some and you'll get it. This is not right way of thinking.

Are you sure you don't confuse a prison with a school even though both are regarded as places making people social?

Jokes aside where did you go to school? I think the specific school or the education system you visited is garbage.

But children working is the sign of a country with a really bad economy, and poor regulations.

I prefer kids working than begging in a street. probably people will give money to the kids begging in the street because they fell pity to the kids, but I say it's not a good way.

if kids begging, they will be spoiled, so in the future they will not find a job and work because they know they can get money by begging only.

but if they work since they are kids, they will work and work in the future because they now that we can't live depends on the others. we need to find our own job.

Not many jobs may be available for kids who are just 7 or 8 years old. They will be excluded from blue collar jobs such as mining and manufacturing, as they don't have the necessary physical strength. As they don't have the necessary skills, they will be excluded from the white collar jobs as well. The only option left is begging.

actually i will not choose both because child is still child which is under the 18 years and not allowing to work. but in many condition in many country, many child have been work to help their parents to get some money and of course they do this for survive. i think its not good for a child to do this, because they can loss their childs play, they can loss their happiness, the only  thing that they know is work to get money to help their parents. its sad but its true and this is happen in around us.

Child labor and child beggar two of them is wrong, but if I can choose actually child laboring is better than beggars. Laboring can gain experience and they can use it in future, but beggar doesn't gain anything, just money no experience and that just make them more lazy.

Yes that what it should be.  It will totally violates the law or code about the rights of every child like to play, to have food, to be in school.  But what happens right now is children were force to work and have money on either way, begging or working, to feed himself or his family.  This is the reality especially on third world countries wherein children are force to drop school and do adults labor just to feed himself or to help his father to feed their family.  And also if the children's parents were used to begging then their kids will do the same.

Child should not be working.
They must be protected and loved. The gov should resolve these isssues

Do I really have to choose?  Both of it is not good for it violates the rights of every child.  But if I have to choose, I would go for child labor than begging.  In begging, the kid will not have any motivation as he could earn money that easy just by asking for money.  Unlike when a child works, he will know the value of every hardships he experienced while working just to have an earning.  He would then strive so hard and would be motivated to seriously do something about it.  To eliminate poverty in his entity.

If a child is required to work regardless of age, I would rather choose for them to work inside a work place and not begging in the street. Being in the street is very dangerous for them. They might cross the busy street with lots of vehicles and meet accidents along the way. They could meet bad peoples that will harm them. I want to them to be isolated in one place, work and be safe. By the way f*ck the government in my country can't even afford to help those people who are really in need instead they steal the money supposed to be given for them.

I believe that children should get used to working. This is part of the educational process. If this is not done then we can get later thief or robber.