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Title: Antisemitism
Post by: kryptqnick on July 12, 2016, 09:04:18 AM
Many times on this board I noticed posts and even topics that clearly putted the blame on the Jews, sometimes linking them to some bankers, for all the sins in the world. In this connection I want to create a poll, asking is that OK to make from the Jews a scapegoat, and thus to be antisemitic?


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: kryptqnick on July 12, 2016, 09:04:33 AM
Personally I think that it's awful. Antisemitism is unacceptable in principle and especially after WWII. And, as many other cases of xenophobia, it has to be cured.  Moreover, antisemite has to be cured, because xenophobia represents unreasonable, neurotic and irrational fear of others that has nothing to do with others, but exists only in a xenophobic mind.


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: markj113 on July 12, 2016, 09:19:46 AM
I dont agree with it but I dont really care either.

Generation snowflake as they are now called love to be offended by everything.


My opinion is that if I dont know or respect you I dont really care what your opinion is of me and I certainly couldn't give a flying a fuck what some keyboard warrior that lives in his mothers basement has to say about me.

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/48997161.jpg


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: Masha Sha on July 12, 2016, 09:24:27 AM
The problem is that a group of Jewish domestic ennemies worldwide always use the antisemitic card as soon as their gang is attacked. This is in my opinion the biggest danger facing Judaism... Communitanism is dangerous...

As always use metrics... Religion of member of the federal reserve board, Supreme Court, poverty rate, suicide rate, military casualties, incarceration rate, penalties for equivalent crimes... What ever on the era of big data it's easy to prove a point of destroy it.

Then a second problem is for example men like suckerberg promoting censorship... One of my favorite antisemitic story is one of a Hungarian antisemit who learned that his grand mother was Jewish... LoL.

What ever crying wolf is useless and restricting the freedom of speech of antisemits will be used later against Jews...

Good question btw


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: virtualx on July 12, 2016, 09:48:34 AM
Many times on this board I noticed posts and even topics that clearly putted the blame on the Jews, sometimes linking them to some bankers, for all the sins in the world. In this connection I want to create a poll, asking is that OK to make from the Jews a scapegoat, and thus to be antisemitic?
Muslims, christian-fanatics and neo-nazis are very often antisemetic. 
Examples: against Israel, against jews and so on. 
In society this is publicly tolerated.

Many people however think it's OK to exterminate other groups that are different their own, similar to the behavior of the chimpanzee. 


Then a second problem is for example men like suckerberg promoting censorship... One of my favorite antisemitic story is one of a Hungarian antisemit who learned that his grand mother was Jewish... LoL.
The personification of a country by a single extremist individualism is also a cause of extremism.


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: valta4065 on July 12, 2016, 10:07:21 AM
Ahah!

Antisemitism is a rather normal thing...

The difference with Jews is that it's not a religion, it's a population. You can't become a jew you are only born one.
And they're a population claiming to be the chosen ones and all the others will go to hell... Not the nicest people...


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: Masha Sha on July 12, 2016, 10:32:50 AM
Ahah!

Antisemitism is a rather normal thing...

The difference with Jews is that it's not a religion, it's a population. You can't become a jew you are only born one.
And they're a population claiming to be the chosen ones and all the others will go to hell... Not the nicest people...

But apparently it's possible for them to take non tribal women if they renounce their faiths... With such money printed supported lifestyle who can blame them ;-).

Metrics metrics metrics!!!


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: catch.me.if.you.can on July 12, 2016, 10:34:33 AM
I love the Jews! It is my favourite criminal organization!  ;D


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: BADecker on July 12, 2016, 12:10:34 PM
From Wikipedia at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people:
Quote
The term Semitic people or Semitic cultures (from the biblical "Shem", Hebrew: שם‎‎) was a term for people or cultures who speak or spoke the Semitic languages. The terminology was first used in the 1770s by members of the Göttingen School of History, who derived the name from Shem, one of the three sons of Noah in the Book of Genesis. The term, together with the parallel terms Hamitic and Japhetic, is now obsolete.

Various scholars have stated that the concept of Semitic ethnicity, culture or Proto-Semites should be avoided or does not exist.

In archaeology, the term is sometimes used informally as "a kind of shorthand" for ancient Semitic-speaking peoples.

All this application of the word "Semite" or the word "Semitism" refers to any of the people of the Middle East.

All average people are wonderful people. In general, all people want peace. Then their leader stir them up to make war with other people.

Jews are the same as others regarding peacefulness. The bankers generally are not entirely Jewish, but like the warmongers among us, they are a mixture of Jew and people of other ME nations... especial people from the Iran or Iraq areas... the lands of the ancient Babylonians.

Picking on people because of their race or nationality is not good. It causes envy and strife. There are good and bad Semites, just as there are good and bad people among all the nations of the world.

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Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: Gimpeline on July 12, 2016, 06:06:54 PM
From Wikipedia at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people:
Quote
The term Semitic people or Semitic cultures (from the biblical "Shem", Hebrew: שם‎‎) was a term for people or cultures who speak or spoke the Semitic languages. The terminology was first used in the 1770s by members of the Göttingen School of History, who derived the name from Shem, one of the three sons of Noah in the Book of Genesis. The term, together with the parallel terms Hamitic and Japhetic, is now obsolete.

Various scholars have stated that the concept of Semitic ethnicity, culture or Proto-Semites should be avoided or does not exist.

In archaeology, the term is sometimes used informally as "a kind of shorthand" for ancient Semitic-speaking peoples.

All this application of the word "Semite" or the word "Semitism" refers to any of the people of the Middle East.

All average people are wonderful people. In general, all people want peace. Then their leader stir them up to make war with other people.

Jews are the same as others regarding peacefulness. The bankers generally are not entirely Jewish, but like the warmongers among us, they are a mixture of Jew and people of other ME nations... especial people from the Iran or Iraq areas... the lands of the ancient Babylonians.

Picking on people because of their race or nationality is not good. It causes envy and strife. There are good and bad Semites, just as there are good and bad people among all the nations of the world.

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I think this is the first time i agree with BADecker.


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: Losvienleg on July 12, 2016, 07:31:00 PM
Ahah!

Antisemitism is a rather normal thing...

The difference with Jews is that it's not a religion, it's a population. You can't become a jew you are only born one.
And they're a population claiming to be the chosen ones and all the others will go to hell... Not the nicest people...

This is the most sane thing I ever read here outside of saddampbuh and BADecker. Jews are a community of organised banksters, liars and generalyy dangerous individuals when they get the power.


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: Masha Sha on July 12, 2016, 08:53:13 PM
Ahah!

Antisemitism is a rather normal thing...

The difference with Jews is that it's not a religion, it's a population. You can't become a jew you are only born one.
And they're a population claiming to be the chosen ones and all the others will go to hell... Not the nicest people...

This is the most sane thing I ever read here outside of saddampbuh and BADecker. Jews are a community of organised banksters, liars and generalyy dangerous individuals when they get the power.

All community based power grab ends in chaos... The community serves itself and those on the outside will rebel. Good example is FSB Russia...


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: BADecker on July 13, 2016, 12:03:44 AM
Ahah!

Antisemitism is a rather normal thing...

The difference with Jews is that it's not a religion, it's a population. You can't become a jew you are only born one.
And they're a population claiming to be the chosen ones and all the others will go to hell... Not the nicest people...

This is the most sane thing I ever read here outside of saddampbuh and BADecker. Jews are a community of organised banksters, liars and generalyy dangerous individuals when they get the power.

All community based power grab ends in chaos... The community serves itself and those on the outside will rebel. Good example is FSB Russia...

Except when the community is a family.    8)


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: Spendulus on July 13, 2016, 12:12:30 AM
Ahah!

Antisemitism is a rather normal thing...

The difference with Jews is that it's not a religion, it's a population. You can't become a jew you are only born one.
And they're a population claiming to be the chosen ones and all the others will go to hell... Not the nicest people...

This is the most sane thing I ever read here outside of saddampbuh and BADecker. Jews are a community of organised banksters, liars and generalyy dangerous individuals when they get the power.

For all the fucking idiots posting who define the world in religious terms, while being totally ignorant, this atheist offers the following advice:

YES YOU CAN BECOME A JEW!

http://www.becomingjewish.net/

I am sorry here.  I was going to refute the other logical fallacies and wrong statements.

But I am laughing too harrdD to tuype>

Seriously, what we see on this forum, and it is seen equally on other forums, is the attribution of the worst evil to "Jews," without really any facts or evidence.  It's sheer propaganda, and it's important, in my opinion, to recognize propaganda when it appears, as what it really is.

The anti-Jewist propaganda comes up time after time, over and over, year after year.

Come to think of it, the propaganda is actually a very different thing than "anti-Semitism."


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: valta4065 on July 13, 2016, 01:51:14 AM
Ahah!

Antisemitism is a rather normal thing...

The difference with Jews is that it's not a religion, it's a population. You can't become a jew you are only born one.
And they're a population claiming to be the chosen ones and all the others will go to hell... Not the nicest people...

This is the most sane thing I ever read here outside of saddampbuh and BADecker. Jews are a community of organised banksters, liars and generalyy dangerous individuals when they get the power.

For all the fucking idiots posting who define the world in religious terms, while being totally ignorant, this atheist offers the following advice:

YES YOU CAN BECOME A JEW!

http://www.becomingjewish.net/

I am sorry here.  I was going to refute the other logical fallacies and wrong statements.

But I am laughing too harrdD to tuype>

Seriously, what we see on this forum, and it is seen equally on other forums, is the attribution of the worst evil to "Jews," without really any facts or evidence.  It's sheer propaganda, and it's important, in my opinion, to recognize propaganda when it appears, as what it really is.

The anti-Jewist propaganda comes up time after time, over and over, year after year.

Come to think of it, the propaganda is actually a very different thing than "anti-Semitism."

Have you read the Tora?

I read the three holy books so I'll tell you this: you can't become a Jew.
Jewish people are a PEOPLE, you can't become part of it.

Of course, as every religion, they evolved so now they accept conversion in some ways, but that's really hard to become one, and for lots of traditional jews you won't ever be a "real" jew.

It's not "anti jew" propaganda, I never said they were evil or whatever.
It's just a fact, Jews are a people before being a religion. And the Tora clearly says Jews are the chosen people while all the others are lost for God. Not a really cool way of seeing the world.


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: valta4065 on July 13, 2016, 01:53:58 AM
Ahah!

Antisemitism is a rather normal thing...

The difference with Jews is that it's not a religion, it's a population. You can't become a jew you are only born one.
And they're a population claiming to be the chosen ones and all the others will go to hell... Not the nicest people...

This is the most sane thing I ever read here outside of saddampbuh and BADecker. Jews are a community of organised banksters, liars and generalyy dangerous individuals when they get the power.

I find it very insulting you compare me with this asshole of saddampbuh or this completely crazy BADecker.

I hope you misunderstood me. I was just explaining Jews are a people before being a religion. They're coming from hebraic people who flew Ramses II.
That's all I'm saying, that they already put themselves a bit apart from the rest of the world simply by claiming they're the chosen people.


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: BADecker on July 13, 2016, 01:56:32 AM
Ahah!

Antisemitism is a rather normal thing...

The difference with Jews is that it's not a religion, it's a population. You can't become a jew you are only born one.
And they're a population claiming to be the chosen ones and all the others will go to hell... Not the nicest people...

This is the most sane thing I ever read here outside of saddampbuh and BADecker. Jews are a community of organised banksters, liars and generalyy dangerous individuals when they get the power.

I find it very insulting you compare me with this asshole of saddampbuh or this completely crazy BADecker.

I hope you misunderstood me. I was just explaining Jews are a people before being a religion. They're coming from hebraic people who flew Ramses II.
That's all I'm saying, that they already put themselves a bit apart from the rest of the world simply by claiming they're the chosen people.

What? Somebody has compared us to each other. Whoever you are, how dare you compare me to this lunatic valta4065?

8)


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: valta4065 on July 13, 2016, 02:12:49 AM
Ahah!

Antisemitism is a rather normal thing...

The difference with Jews is that it's not a religion, it's a population. You can't become a jew you are only born one.
And they're a population claiming to be the chosen ones and all the others will go to hell... Not the nicest people...

This is the most sane thing I ever read here outside of saddampbuh and BADecker. Jews are a community of organised banksters, liars and generalyy dangerous individuals when they get the power.

I find it very insulting you compare me with this asshole of saddampbuh or this completely crazy BADecker.

I hope you misunderstood me. I was just explaining Jews are a people before being a religion. They're coming from hebraic people who flew Ramses II.
That's all I'm saying, that they already put themselves a bit apart from the rest of the world simply by claiming they're the chosen people.

What? Somebody has compared us to each other. Whoever you are, how dare you compare me to this lunatic valta4065?

8)

N'est-ce pas?
Isn't it?

How could anyone dare doing something like this. We've got nothing in common. Except from btc maybe ^^


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: BADecker on July 13, 2016, 03:20:15 AM
Ahah!

Antisemitism is a rather normal thing...

The difference with Jews is that it's not a religion, it's a population. You can't become a jew you are only born one.
And they're a population claiming to be the chosen ones and all the others will go to hell... Not the nicest people...

This is the most sane thing I ever read here outside of saddampbuh and BADecker. Jews are a community of organised banksters, liars and generalyy dangerous individuals when they get the power.

I find it very insulting you compare me with this asshole of saddampbuh or this completely crazy BADecker.

I hope you misunderstood me. I was just explaining Jews are a people before being a religion. They're coming from hebraic people who flew Ramses II.
That's all I'm saying, that they already put themselves a bit apart from the rest of the world simply by claiming they're the chosen people.

What? Somebody has compared us to each other. Whoever you are, how dare you compare me to this lunatic valta4065?

8)

N'est-ce pas?
Isn't it?

How could anyone dare doing something like this. We've got nothing in common. Except from btc maybe ^^

You're not Jewish, are you?    :D


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: ObscureBean on July 13, 2016, 08:36:41 AM
Nothing wrong with blaming others, that's been the way of the world since the dawn of man. It's primordial that every individual, every group find a proper scapegoat for any trouble/issues that may pop up along the way. Now you know, if you get stuck in an elevator on your way to an all important meeting.. curse the Jews.


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: valta4065 on July 13, 2016, 09:26:15 AM
Ahah!

Antisemitism is a rather normal thing...

The difference with Jews is that it's not a religion, it's a population. You can't become a jew you are only born one.
And they're a population claiming to be the chosen ones and all the others will go to hell... Not the nicest people...

This is the most sane thing I ever read here outside of saddampbuh and BADecker. Jews are a community of organised banksters, liars and generalyy dangerous individuals when they get the power.

I find it very insulting you compare me with this asshole of saddampbuh or this completely crazy BADecker.

I hope you misunderstood me. I was just explaining Jews are a people before being a religion. They're coming from hebraic people who flew Ramses II.
That's all I'm saying, that they already put themselves a bit apart from the rest of the world simply by claiming they're the chosen people.

What? Somebody has compared us to each other. Whoever you are, how dare you compare me to this lunatic valta4065?

8)

N'est-ce pas?
Isn't it?

How could anyone dare doing something like this. We've got nothing in common. Except from btc maybe ^^

You're not Jewish, are you?    :D

No, I'm poor as fuck  :P


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: Vika NSFW on July 13, 2016, 10:43:21 AM
Many times on this board I noticed posts and even topics that clearly putted the blame on the Jews

Not all Jews are living under respecting Shulchan Aruch.
Shulchan Aruch is a racial hate speech.

http://www.jlaw.com/Articles/mesiralaw2.html

The Laws Against Non-Jews (http://www.bintjbeil.com/E/occupation/shahak.html)


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: mOgliE on July 13, 2016, 12:26:18 PM
Many times on this board I noticed posts and even topics that clearly putted the blame on the Jews, sometimes linking them to some bankers, for all the sins in the world. In this connection I want to create a poll, asking is that OK to make from the Jews a scapegoat, and thus to be antisemitic?

Don't know, most of the time I see Jews crying they're harassed. Never saw a post or a thread the other way around.

Seems to me that they're a bit too sensile... They should man the fuck up!


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: gentlemand on July 13, 2016, 12:36:31 PM
There do seem to be a large number of people on this forum with a problem with Jews. I really don't get it and it's deeply pathetic.

I think the Israeli government's actions are certainly worthy of contempt. I assume no one here feels responsible for the actions of their own government and might feel unhappy about suffering because of it.


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: mOgliE on July 13, 2016, 12:43:43 PM
There do seem to be a large number of people on this forum with a problem with Jews. I really don't get it and it's deeply pathetic.

I think the Israeli government's actions are certainly worthy of contempt. I assume no one here feels responsible for the actions of their own government and might feel unhappy about suffering because of it.

It's not pathetic it's logical.
When you separate yourself from the rest of the world and create a community, then claim yourself to be the best community of the world and the only chosen by god, how do you want everyone else to react?


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: gentlemand on July 13, 2016, 12:46:52 PM
So that's what every single Jew on the entire planet believes and they've rubbed it in your face repeatedly? I myself struggle to condemn every single identifiable member of a group because of my own sweaty little generalisation.


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: Vika NSFW on July 13, 2016, 12:57:36 PM
http://s11.stc.all.kpcdn.net/share/i/12/5317937/

Who are this 2 Jews?


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: mOgliE on July 13, 2016, 01:05:08 PM
So that's what every single Jew on the entire planet believes and they've rubbed it in your face repeatedly? I myself struggle to condemn every single identifiable member of a group because of my own sweaty little generalisation.

Omg go down your horses...

What I'm saying is that it's logical to see a community harassed and hated if this community excludes itself from the rest of the world and claiming to be the chosen ones!
I'm not aiming at anyone especially I'm trying to describe a global situation.

That's why Jews are hated and killed since Ramses II. I'm not giving out moral judgement, just saying it's logical.


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: Vika NSFW on July 13, 2016, 05:56:43 PM
No one know them, but this are Great Persons:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanunu

http://lmv.hu/files/Vanunu3.jpg


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Shamir

http://warfiles.ru/uploads/images/2016/743/org_ixai31.jpg

http://www.israelshamir.net/


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: hermanhs09 on July 13, 2016, 09:10:35 PM
In europe,there are really many christians.
As we all know,jews have killed Jesus Christ,if the whole event was true.
That's why i think,many not smart people hate jews,because for some reason they have coded up in their mind that jews are bad,
they steal,loan to people,etc.
It is just stupid for me,all the stereotypes...


Title: Re: Antisemitism
Post by: BADecker on July 13, 2016, 09:43:13 PM
In europe,there are really many christians.
As we all know,jews have killed Jesus Christ,if the whole event was true.
That's why i think,many not smart people hate jews,because for some reason they have coded up in their mind that jews are bad,
they steal,loan to people,etc.
It is just stupid for me,all the stereotypes...

All of the first Christians were Jews. Then a few Gentiles came aboard at Paul's preaching, and at Peter's training from God.

This made the Jews that were NOT Christians very angry. Why? They wanted to be the people blessed by God. And they could have been, if they had only realized that spreading Christianity was the way to be blessed by God. That's why Israel is in such a quandary today.

Jesus arose from the dead via the glory of God the Father... Who is our Father, too.

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