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Title: Do you suspect Bitcoin Service providers are using Fractional Reserve banking?
Post by: Quantus on July 13, 2016, 07:12:05 PM
Do you suspect Bitcoin Service providers are using Fractional Reserve banking?


Title: Re: Do you suspect Bitcoin Service providers are using Fractional Reserve banking?
Post by: franky1 on July 13, 2016, 07:55:57 PM
service providers.. like bitpay and other retail/consumer direct swaps.. no..

service providers.. like exchanges with bitcoins altcoins and fiat.. yes..

exchanges "orderbooks" are not directly linked to funds stored on private keys. which allows them to make 'ghost' orders. and when things go bad that they have made a loss on the ghost orders because theres not enough coin or fiat to fill the withdrawals. they cry out the standard "we have been hacked" mantra. and then go into bankruptsy


Title: Re: Do you suspect Bitcoin Service providers are using Fractional Reserve banking?
Post by: RodeoX on July 13, 2016, 07:58:29 PM
My guess is that somebody somewhere surely is or will.
 


Title: Re: Do you suspect Bitcoin Service providers are using Fractional Reserve banking?
Post by: odolvlobo on July 13, 2016, 08:00:48 PM
I expect Bitcoin FRB to be the norm in the future because most people will store their bitcoins in online accounts rather than in their own wallets. That is one of the reasons I don't believe that the value will reach the levels that many people hope for.


Title: Re: Do you suspect Bitcoin Service providers are using Fractional Reserve banking?
Post by: countryfree on July 13, 2016, 10:38:04 PM
It would be difficult and risky. There's a lot of ups and downs and many lots of people selling or buying all at the same time. Some exchange may try to do it, but I doubt it could do it for long.


Title: Re: Do you suspect Bitcoin Service providers are using Fractional Reserve banking?
Post by: 7788bitcoin on July 13, 2016, 11:44:57 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional-reserve_banking (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional-reserve_banking)

I think this is something that they may be considering or may have already established- this require a complex process/system to manage. After all, service provider such as XAPO and Coinbase are acting pretty much like banks.


Title: Re: Do you suspect Bitcoin Service providers are using Fractional Reserve banking?
Post by: poncom on July 14, 2016, 12:46:03 AM
service providers.. like bitpay and other retail/consumer direct swaps.. no..

service providers.. like exchanges with bitcoins altcoins and fiat.. yes..

exchanges "orderbooks" are not directly linked to funds stored on private keys. which allows them to make 'ghost' orders. and when things go bad that they have made a loss on the ghost orders because theres not enough coin or fiat to fill the withdrawals. they cry out the standard "we have been hacked" mantra. and then go into bankruptsy

MtGox springs to mind as a good example of a Fractional Reserve banking exchange crying out the standard "we've been hacked" mantra. I think some exchanges are legit, but others are using Fractional Reserve systems.

Bitpay's a service provider, it covered up its hack for over a year and might have used Fractional Reserve banking afterwards.


Title: Re: Do you suspect Bitcoin Service providers are using Fractional Reserve banking?
Post by: tobacco123 on July 14, 2016, 01:56:08 AM
Some sort of Fractional Reserve banking is definitely in place. This is a good way to make money since most of these Service Providers are actually giving "free" services.


Title: Re: Do you suspect Bitcoin Service providers are using Fractional Reserve banking?
Post by: philipma1957 on July 14, 2016, 02:03:37 AM
service providers.. like bitpay and other retail/consumer direct swaps.. no..

service providers.. like exchanges with bitcoins altcoins and fiat.. yes..

exchanges "orderbooks" are not directly linked to funds stored on private keys. which allows them to make 'ghost' orders. and when things go bad that they have made a loss on the ghost orders because theres not enough coin or fiat to fill the withdrawals. they cry out the standard "we have been hacked" mantra. and then go into bankruptsy

MtGox springs to mind as a good example of a Fractional Reserve banking exchange crying out the standard "we've been hacked" mantra. I think some exchanges are legit, but others are using Fractional Reserve systems.

Bitpay's a service provider, it covered up its hack for over a year and might have used Fractional Reserve banking afterwards.

they are the son of BITS which was also 'hacked'  so they did it twice and they owe me stolen coin (.39btc) lost after the first hack  when they were BITS  may they suffer pineal cancer and die a slow painful death from it.

 BTW  that is not cancer of the penis that I want them to die from.


Title: Re: Do you suspect Bitcoin Service providers are using Fractional Reserve banking?
Post by: RealBitcoin on July 18, 2016, 04:56:44 PM
Of course they do, fractional reserve system is the most succesful scam on the planet. Do you think bitcoin services are so honest that they dont participate in it?


Title: Re: Do you suspect Bitcoin Service providers are using Fractional Reserve banking?
Post by: RealBitcoin on July 18, 2016, 04:59:48 PM
I expect Bitcoin FRB to be the norm in the future because most people will store their bitcoins in online accounts rather than in their own wallets. That is one of the reasons I don't believe that the value will reach the levels that many people hope for.

But when the ponzi scheme deflates ,there wont be a bitcoin central bank to do QE to save them, so bitcoin wont suffer the hyperinflation fate like fiat money does, don't worry ;)

Only those holding their money with the scammers will lose it, those that hold their own money wont be affected.


Title: Re: Do you suspect Bitcoin Service providers are using Fractional Reserve banking?
Post by: odolvlobo on July 18, 2016, 05:49:07 PM
I expect Bitcoin FRB to be the norm in the future because most people will store their bitcoins in online accounts rather than in their own wallets. That is one of the reasons I don't believe that the value will reach the levels that many people hope for.

But when the ponzi scheme deflates ,there wont be a bitcoin central bank to do QE to save them, so bitcoin wont suffer the hyperinflation fate like fiat money does, don't worry ;)

Only those holding their money with the scammers will lose it, those that hold their own money wont be affected.

Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent -- anonymous