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Title: The higher roller .
Post by: Daffadile on July 15, 2016, 11:02:29 AM
Who do you think are the higher rollers...

Gamblers online at bitcoin casinos.
or
Gamblers that play at physical casinos ?

Finally, why do you think that physical casinos attract more or less people (excluding the fact that bitcoin is not mainstream)


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: razdva on July 15, 2016, 11:15:09 AM
Who do you think are the higher rollers...

Gamblers online at bitcoin casinos.
or
Gamblers that play at physical casinos ?

Finally, why do you think that physical casinos attract more or less people (excluding the fact that bitcoin is not mainstream)

If we speak abot big casino and gamblers city like Makau, then i think physical casinos more higher rollers. Some games played with very big bet. I heard about poker tourney with buy-in $1 mln :o. Also some closed games play with very big bet


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: eternalgloom on July 15, 2016, 11:18:22 AM
I would need to see some data on the subject to come to a conclusion.
But I would guess that Bitcoin gambling is still way less popular than traditional gambling in casino's, thus there being less high rollers in online Bitcoin gambling.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: fulgdenea on July 15, 2016, 11:25:45 AM
Physical casinos have more bigger whales as compare with online gambling casinos, bitcoin gambling is not familiar around the world, a lot of people still don't know how crypto currency work, so that it is clear bitcoin casinos not have so many bigger whales like the physical casinos have.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: xuan87 on July 15, 2016, 11:31:19 AM
for now physical casino has the high roller, some of the people enjoy the casino atmosphere rather than playing using internet, and bitcoin casino still need time to be acknowledge by people around the world and some of the bitcoin casino still has limit for betting, but maybe in the future it will change, because bitcoin casino can be access from any country


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: lemipawa on July 15, 2016, 11:33:48 AM
We cant compare the high rollers in physical casinos and online casinos using Bitcoin. It would take a lot of convincing and providing positive reasons to high rollers in physical casinos to switch to online gambling using Bitcoin.some high rollers use their Banks to transfer money to countries where they want to play while in online gambling all they need is internet connection.

i dont think there is a data available that can be used to measure and compare the amount being spend by high rollers on physical and online gambling. Peop!e play online so they can still play without their relatives or love ones knowing.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: Vinz24 on July 15, 2016, 12:06:16 PM
Who do you think are the higher rollers...

Gamblers online at bitcoin casinos.
or
Gamblers that play at physical casinos ?

Finally, why do you think that physical casinos attract more or less people (excluding the fact that bitcoin is not mainstream)

Of course the higher roller is the physical casino because everybody has physical money than bitcoin. But the easiest and convenient way to play casino os thru online, you can just play at home.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: dustboy on July 15, 2016, 12:16:34 PM
Never visited a physical casino, I cant find it around my area because it is an illegal thing. But I'm sure that online casino has less high roller than physical casino.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: maximuss on July 15, 2016, 12:20:33 PM
I would need to see some data on the subject to come to a conclusion.
But I would guess that Bitcoin gambling is still way less popular than traditional gambling in casino's, thus there being less high rollers in online Bitcoin gambling.
I agree, bitcoin gambling is probably taking less than 1% of all wagered amount among traditional and online gambling. That's why high rollers are not so common in bitcoin gambling space.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: BitcoinSupremo on July 15, 2016, 12:28:25 PM
In my country high rollers are more common in online casinos like William Hill because of the extremely huge jackpots it offers. Physical casinos are not much frequented although a lot of persons play there, usually they are occasional players and not true gamblers, they go there play, try to attract a woman or so. I know as I have many friends who have played huge huge amounts in William Hill online slots trying to chase that extremely huge jackpot. Now bitcoin users there are not much in my country so I think its a minority who uses bitcoin casinos.
I personally think the high rollers exist in online casinos more than in physical ones except in Las Vegas where is full of physical casinos.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: eternalgloom on July 15, 2016, 12:37:04 PM
I would need to see some data on the subject to come to a conclusion.
But I would guess that Bitcoin gambling is still way less popular than traditional gambling in casino's, thus there being less high rollers in online Bitcoin gambling.
I agree, bitcoin gambling is probably taking less than 1% of all wagered amount among traditional and online gambling. That's why high rollers are not so common in bitcoin gambling space.
On top of that, it's much easier to identify high rollers that gamble with Bitcoin on dice sites, because they usually show their stats on the website.
This is not the case with physical casino's, people could be spending hundreds of millions of dollars and people would just not know about it.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: minime0105 on July 15, 2016, 12:43:51 PM
Who do you think are the higher rollers...

Gamblers online at bitcoin casinos.
or
Gamblers that play at physical casinos ?

Finally, why do you think that physical casinos attract more or less people (excluding the fact that bitcoin is not mainstream)
of course gamblers at physical casinos. I can say, many high rollers still doesn't know bitcoin or not interested with it. just $$$.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: mindrust on July 15, 2016, 12:48:59 PM
Of course, it is real casinos with real people. I am not saying  people who play in online casinos aren't real but they see real people in real casinos. :)

Real casinos have real people, free drinks (mostly), hot girls. All those have some cost that's why they have higher rollers there.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: ethereumhunter on July 15, 2016, 12:56:57 PM
maybe there are many people play gambling in bitcoin casinos with high rollers and we just do not know, and i believe that yes in physical casinos, many player make big bet and there are billion money that bet on that casinos. we just do not know what exactly happen in out there, so we just heard and see the news.

in country, real casino was forbidden, but if we talk about hidden casino, i believe there are exist with real people and real money.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: pocarime32 on July 15, 2016, 12:59:40 PM
Who do you think are the higher rollers...

Gamblers online at bitcoin casinos.
or
Gamblers that play at physical casinos ?

Finally, why do you think that physical casinos attract more or less people (excluding the fact that bitcoin is not mainstream)

If we speak abot big casino and gamblers city like Makau, then i think physical casinos more higher rollers. Some games played with very big bet. I heard about poker tourney with buy-in $1 mln :o. Also some closed games play with very big bet

Yeah, there are many big bettors in real life casino, but i ever saw someone bet big on online sportsbook. There's someone who bet 50 bitcoins in 1 match.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: minime0105 on July 15, 2016, 01:03:15 PM
Of course, it is real casinos with real people. I am not saying  people who play in online casinos aren't real but they see real people in real casinos. :)

Real casinos have real people, free drinks (mostly), hot girls. All those have some cost that's why they have higher rollers there.
yeah real high rollers are not just after the money, they are after the good time!. specially girls..hahaha


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: machinek20 on July 15, 2016, 01:07:37 PM
Who do you think are the higher rollers...

Gamblers online at bitcoin casinos.
or
Gamblers that play at physical casinos ?

Finally, why do you think that physical casinos attract more or less people (excluding the fact that bitcoin is not mainstream)
Physical casinos have high rollers with security guard. They like to brag their balance and show off by betting all and they like when the crowd cheering for them especially when they win the game, so most of the high gamblers like to show their gambling skill and capabilities to show that they are a good gambler, while Gamblers online try to safe bet because some of them dont really sure about provably fair the site offered, that is why so many people asked about provably fair question


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: Karpeles on July 15, 2016, 01:08:56 PM
Games at physical casinos of course.

Just see the James Bond movies, he always bet millions in physical casino, he never used BTC to gamble and would never trust millions to an online casino


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: pereira4 on July 15, 2016, 03:14:53 PM
Well, to win big, you have to take high risks... high rollers take big risks and sometimes get huge rewards, but sometimes lose it all.

The real big high rollers are usually famous people with advertisement deals... casino says "you gamble here with us, and you get paid". So they never lose money. If they win the bet, then great, if they lose, then great anyway, since you still get ad revenue. Example: Floyd Mayweather, Dan Bizlerian... etc.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: BAGOBO on July 15, 2016, 03:24:20 PM
Real life high rolller , Poker expert named Dan Bilzerian are real. You can see his life now so you will know why high roller will give some attraction to gain more gambler. Ofcourse you need spend so much fund to be high roller but as long as you can afford to loss, you can win unexpectedly


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: btcdevil on July 15, 2016, 04:09:06 PM
Who do you think are the higher rollers...

Gamblers online at bitcoin casinos.
or
Gamblers that play at physical casinos ?

Finally, why do you think that physical casinos attract more or less people (excluding the fact that bitcoin is not mainstream)

As per current situation , physical casinos are having more high rollers then online or bitcoin gambling sites, as  their is still lot of problem in doing online transaction then playing in physical as you can enjoy the gambling atmosphere and play with real peoples sitting with you. online gambling sites have their own limit and fraud chances are more as if you win a jackpot then withdrawing problem will occur as the online site will start to give false reason and they will block the withdraw and ask you the unnecessary document for verification so that you cannot be able to withdraw


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: philiveyjr on July 15, 2016, 06:20:21 PM
Ofcourse the highrollers are more at physical casinos. Online high rollers are usually people who are drunk and end up losing a lot of their money. They are also people who don't have a physical casino nearby and are highly addicted to gambling and have too much money.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: marioantonini on July 15, 2016, 06:26:19 PM
i think all time the high roller is play to real casiṇ, who have more money like "live" in the casino, who like bet 100.000 $ in only 1 bet only see the monitor of computer?  ;D


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: electronicfactura on July 15, 2016, 06:34:08 PM
In my opinion more higher rollers are in physical casinos with fiat money. I have seen many high rollers on different online casino with Bitcoin but these casinos are like small numbers of what really exists in gambling industry. Physical casinos still are in domination of this industry as casinos players prefer to go there to play.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: buddu on July 15, 2016, 06:49:58 PM
The real higher rollers are in real physical casinos. All these high winning which we observe in online casinos are just tiny part of that money with what people play in land casinos. A physical casinos gambler will never quit playing there. It is not just gambling but atmosphere,protocol and many other things are involved for what people prefer to play in real casinos. Higher rollers will always be in physical casinos.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: kryptqnick on July 16, 2016, 03:50:46 PM
Who do you think are the higher rollers...

Gamblers online at bitcoin casinos.
or
Gamblers that play at physical casinos ?

Finally, why do you think that physical casinos attract more or less people (excluding the fact that bitcoin is not mainstream)
I think btc rollers are higher, but physical casinos attract more people, because they can give you free champagne or something when you lose. Another reason might be that people don't trust the Internet as much as the physical things as casinos and money in there


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: newcripto on July 16, 2016, 05:27:46 PM
There are also higher rollers in online gambling sites as well. You can see in blackjack and poker rooms of well known sites where thousands of fiat money is being placed everyday. If we make a ratios between online and offline then offline/land casinos are still ahead by having more higher rollers because they have permanent players who play just in casinos.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: Daffadile on July 16, 2016, 05:30:19 PM
Who do you think are the higher rollers...

Gamblers online at bitcoin casinos.
or
Gamblers that play at physical casinos ?

Finally, why do you think that physical casinos attract more or less people (excluding the fact that bitcoin is not mainstream)
I think btc rollers are higher, but physical casinos attract more people, because they can give you free champagne or something when you lose. Another reason might be that people don't trust the Internet as much as the physical things as casinos and money in there

I think you right. I  think it is a trust issue. Even within the bitcoin community we have trust issues with casinos so imagine none bitcoin users will think and feel about these issues more so than offline casino gamblers. Easier to prove fairness and there are staff you can speak to face to face too.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: minime0105 on July 16, 2016, 05:36:43 PM
Who do you think are the higher rollers...

Gamblers online at bitcoin casinos.
or
Gamblers that play at physical casinos ?

Finally, why do you think that physical casinos attract more or less people (excluding the fact that bitcoin is not mainstream)
I think btc rollers are higher, but physical casinos attract more people, because they can give you free champagne or something when you lose. Another reason might be that people don't trust the Internet as much as the physical things as casinos and money in there

I think you right. I  think it is a trust issue. Even within the bitcoin community we have trust issues with casinos so imagine none bitcoin users will think and feel about these issues more so than offline casino gamblers. Easier to prove fairness and there are staff you can speak to face to face too.
That is definitely the reason why the real high rollers are in physical casinos. If they are being cheated, they can act fast,


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: iv4n on July 16, 2016, 05:46:35 PM
Physical casinos have more high rollers then online casinos, that is like 100 % true in my opinion. Can you just imagine some big complex hotel, casino.. they have private rooms for serious players. I just heard what casinos do for this kind of players, free rooms, beautiful girls around, something that online casino can never give to players.
Rich people, but really rich people will always choose physical casino instead of online. And I don't think situation will change, even I wish to go to real casino and play there. But I don't have enough money for that, cause of that btc gambling is something best for me.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: pereira4 on July 16, 2016, 05:54:49 PM
Physical casinos have more high rollers then online casinos, that is like 100 % true in my opinion. Can you just imagine some big complex hotel, casino.. they have private rooms for serious players. I just heard what casinos do for this kind of players, free rooms, beautiful girls around, something that online casino can never give to players.
Rich people, but really rich people will always choose physical casino instead of online. And I don't think situation will change, even I wish to go to real casino and play there. But I don't have enough money for that, cause of that btc gambling is something best for me.

Yes, high rollers are treated like royalties and celebrities in the real life physical casinos, they always are going on there and getting vip deluxe rooms and stuff and get free passes, they bring publicity to the casinos.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: crairezx20 on July 16, 2016, 06:41:02 PM
Who do you think are the higher rollers...

Gamblers online at bitcoin casinos.
or
Gamblers that play at physical casinos ?

Finally, why do you think that physical casinos attract more or less people (excluding the fact that bitcoin is not mainstream)
I think btc rollers are higher, but physical casinos attract more people, because they can give you free champagne or something when you lose. Another reason might be that people don't trust the Internet as much as the physical things as casinos and money in there
I think even physical or online games for me are the same thing for me  but the difference that i experience is they are difference because of you are not thinking that they are provably fair because you can see live done your enemy is a program or bot..


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: Junko on July 17, 2016, 01:06:46 AM
The real high rollers play at live at real brick and mortar casinos. Sure, they may play on online casinos as well, but their big money is at a real physical casino. They will get better comps and treatment for one. Also I would imagine they would feel safer gambling their hundreds of thousands at a real casino than depositing hundreds of thousands online on some bitcoin casino/dice site.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: maku on July 17, 2016, 01:10:36 AM
Well. I am not rich so anyone who bet more than 0.01 BTC at once is a high roller. But it is doesn't matter if you play in live or online casino, you can be high roller anyway.
And of course the REAL high rollers play in private establishments available only for selected few richest people - imagine something like special tourney from Casino Royale.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: Arcteryx on July 17, 2016, 01:50:00 AM
Well. I am not rich so anyone who bet more than 0.01 BTC at once is a high roller. But it is doesn't matter if you play in live or online casino, you can be high roller anyway.
And of course the REAL high rollers play in private establishments available only for selected few richest people - imagine something like special tourney from Casino Royale.
0.01btc is a high roller?:D
I must of been a really rich one from some of my previous bets were 0.1btc all at once.
But I notice anything over that amount I always lost on. So if I was to join in these tournaments I would out before the next round would start unfortunatley. :-\


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: BossMacko on July 17, 2016, 03:03:07 AM
Who do you think are the higher rollers...

Gamblers online at bitcoin casinos.
or
Gamblers that play at physical casinos ?

Finally, why do you think that physical casinos attract more or less people (excluding the fact that bitcoin is not mainstream)

I think the answer to your question is both. Why both? Because High Roller Gamblers who play at physical casinos can play online casinos too. Not only on Bitcoin casinos but all online casinos with different currency. Physical Casinos attracts gamblers because they provide excellent quality service in some Casinos. They have events wherein you can see while inside. The only problem with physical casinos is you need to went there and play only on your free time. Unlike on Online Casino you can play anywhere, in the office, house or any places that you are comfortable to play.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: Leonard2016 on July 17, 2016, 03:34:06 AM
Who do you think are the higher rollers...

Gamblers online at bitcoin casinos.
or
Gamblers that play at physical casinos ?

Finally, why do you think that physical casinos attract more or less people (excluding the fact that bitcoin is not mainstream)

i am sure that people are making a lot bigger bets on real physical casinos especially those in Las Vegas, because there are a lot of millionairs playing at those casinos while bitcoin (online) casinos are only attracting small time gamblers so far.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: Valzador on July 17, 2016, 08:26:46 AM
High rollers in real life are real high rollers. There's a lot more distractions while in a casino and your bets are timed. You need to bet before the wheel spins/the cards are dealt and there's a lot more room for error

When playing online, theres less distractions. The gamblers are more comfortable; at home and relaxed. High rollers at these online casinos can also choose their odds to play against (like dice) unlike in physical casinos cause there aren't dices with that many faces (so there's a higher house edge at real casinos)


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: shadobitz on July 17, 2016, 08:53:54 AM
Bitcoin casinos are still very young and it is totally concept of betting for so many people, real life casinos have more bigger high rollers as compared with online casinos, gambling with bitcoin growing rapidly so that we will have some bigger whales there.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: BTCevo on July 17, 2016, 02:02:05 PM
I dont understand why high roller is really important on each casino? No matter how much your roll in the end if you are losing it of course it wont be good. Lets say that one people bet on 0.01 and earn 0.12, the other one bet 0.1 to get 0.12? What is the different then? High roller only have higher chance to win that amount and faster so there wont be any problem. What do we aim here is only profit so we try to get as much as we can, by being high roller or not doesnt affected on your result of profit


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: killer5 on July 17, 2016, 02:14:19 PM
Who do you think are the higher rollers...

Gamblers online at bitcoin casinos.
or
Gamblers that play at physical casinos ?

Finally, why do you think that physical casinos attract more or less people (excluding the fact that bitcoin is not mainstream)
I love gambling , but i am not a high roller . I have good amount of coins , but I don't like the idea of risking huge amount of money . I would rather give it as loan but most of the casinos exist because of High rollers . They are the major part of it .

I love physical casinos , but not as much as online casinos. Because its easy to play .


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: trafficolaa on July 17, 2016, 02:21:50 PM
I am quite sure physical casinos attract more than online casino, where we can meet with hot dealers face to face and placed bet there, it depend on how much people have money to take risk with them, normally physical casinos have more high rollers than any online casinos.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: European Central Bank on July 17, 2016, 02:23:47 PM
if i'm gonna throw all my money away then i'm also gonna expect a free hotel room and some stiff drinks on the house. physical all the way.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: BTCLovingDude on July 17, 2016, 02:40:52 PM
Who do you think are the higher rollers...

Gamblers online at bitcoin casinos.
or
Gamblers that play at physical casinos ?

Finally, why do you think that physical casinos attract more or less people (excluding the fact that bitcoin is not mainstream)

it is obviously the gamblers who play at real physical casinos. you can always see a lot of big whales with a lot of money playing there in games like poker and stuff like that and have fun.

besides online gambling is a new concept that has not yet grown that big, and looking at high rollers in casinos i don't think those numbers are even big compared to real casinos.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: lionheart78 on July 17, 2016, 02:45:22 PM
Who do you think are the higher rollers...

Gamblers online at bitcoin casinos.
or
Gamblers that play at physical casinos ?

Finally, why do you think that physical casinos attract more or less people (excluding the fact that bitcoin is not mainstream)

Even though casino online is getting popular each day,  I believe that gamblers that play physical casino are the higher rollers.  There are more adept people and millionaires that roam around physical casinos.  And physical casinos attracts more people capable of spending / throwing millions of dollars because of the first hand experience, and social experience.  It is the interaction and the actual feeling of thrill, this people are after.


Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: shanem on July 17, 2016, 03:04:22 PM
Most of the time, gamblers that play at the physical casino are the higher rollers than the ones at online casinos. Many people don't trust online casinos because they have the impression that they are rigged. Another reason is higher rollers can interact with other people at physical casinos but not for online ones.



Title: Re: The higher roller .
Post by: stadus on July 17, 2016, 03:15:06 PM
Of course those who play in physical casinos or like in las vegas because they are more confident that they will be paid when they win.