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Im just curious if any one of you already try to follow the flow and make it memorized or expect what will happen next, ijust noticed that there's a possibility that the "house" / system can detect you strategy that you are using especially martingale.

If you play at a dice site which is provably fair, they can't really. Or they can but have a fair chance of getting caught.

Someone better with statistics might prove me wrong, but getting 100% profit from martinggale has the same or even less propabillity as a single 50/50 bet.

How can they cheat you if you declare the client seed, can change it at any time, and they are restricted to the server hashes that they provide to you?


This is true.

House edge makes it such that the longer you play, the more you lose.


If you bet a single time on 50%, with a house edge of 1% and a wager of 1 BTC, you have two possibilities: ending with 0 BTC or 1.98 BTC. Therefore the expected return is 0.99 BTC for each bet. Which means you'll be losing money each bet statistically.

Example: if you bet twice on 50%, with a house edge of 1%, and let's say you wager 1 BTC. You win once and you lose once. Alright. You've broken even in terms of bets, but as you look at your balance it's 0.98 BTC. You gained 1.98 BTC... and you lost 1 BTC.

Eventual loss.

Nah, there couldn't possibly be a way to foloow the flow or know what will be the next result is. It's like saying you know which strategy to use best but unfortunately there is no such thing as strategy in any gambling game, even in dice.

A fair dice site has nothing to do with pre rolls. However, your client seed might cause a tide in the next roll so test your luck with client seed

You cant memorize anything at all however the house could easily know your betting fashion if you have tendency to bet using the same pattern over time . Using bot to bet is actually one of the reason why the house would know your betting fashion and create a seed to overly win against you

so that's how it is the seed is the one who making familiarization with your style so there's no real system that had been change while you are playing with the dice sorry to everyone with my wrong perception regarding to what the system can do when they detected that you are using some strategy it is my ignorance and i don't have any proof with that, just asking out of curiosity and personal experience i lost 17 or 18 straight losses before and also 22 straight using martingale from yobit dice even it is just small amount i become curios and think that there's a possibility that i can expect what will happen next. thanks for all your insight with my concerned mates.

Why would I remember throws when there is a list of last throws. I follow my results and I try to catch high odds, like I'm looking for how many times I throw over 80 or 90, and under 20 or 10. If I see there is this numbers for longer I chase them with higher bets. Sometimes I have luck, sometimes I don't. Dice is hard game to win in my opinion, and people should be careful with gambling on dices.
I use my own strategy in dices, and I believe people need to play dices slowly and without forcing. And in my case its better to not play dice game everyday.

I tried this once i write all my bet in excel. But the result is still random. The result are completely random . Everything is based on luck and i figured in some dice site if you bet low you'll win but if you bet high you will lose especially when you are thinking that the bet should be green but instead its a red.

We no need to make a note on the site only it will show our result. But yes I too figured out this when I bet flat my winning chance will be high, But when I bet high, i lost my bet many times. That is why I stopped high betting in Dice game. But how it possible I think house edge anything can observe our bets or it is random result?.

It is not possible. Because it is algorithm and base on probability. Even a computer software didnt predict the exact result. Thats why gambling site use dice so that they can never been cheated by players. Hahha

That's only true if you don't set your own client seed (after you know the hash of the server seed).

No I don't think the human mind is capable of memorising so many different outcomes.

Forget about it.

They could just make you loss when they want if they have such control.

Either they are probably fair and you trust them or you don't and know they can cheat at any moment. If you don't trust the site better don't use them to bet

It is not possible for me to memorized the flow the dice result. Dice is based on only player's luck so that I don't think it can be helpful to know the result what is going to happen next. Sometimes when we have our lucky day than it is very possible to make profit.

No you can't.

if it is possible to memorize the run of the dice game results, then I believed there would be a lot of tutorials to do it, which will cause in the bankruptcy or falling down of that casino that hose a dice game.

Dice game is run in a bot with a great algorithms which cannot be easily predictable by anyone even the maker of it, since the game results will mostly based on the computation of the bot or the code.

sadly u cant memorizxe a pattern :( as there is none buut following the controversy of csgo gambling where owners could create hashes in advance and tell you your rolls caused controversy that's why they shutting down

I have tried writing down all the results in a paper while playing for several hours but couldnt find any stable pattern in dice. So trying to find pattern in dice results is just a silly attempt.

In the very beginning of my journey I doing like this. But it is not worth to do this when nobody has control over the outcome. It is very hard to remember the flow of the dice number and make the new bet to imagine what will be the next result.

It is not possible for players to memorize the rolls but your seed which plays major role in your loss or profit knows if you keep playing with same strategy for longer session. I am not saying they cheat but seed predict the behavior of player's method of rolling in dice and same in roulette and slots also.

Every single roll in dice game is independent, there is no such pattern because it is just a pure luck based game. If the pattern is exist, so there will be many people win big amount on dice game.
I was thinking the same on the first time I knew about dice game, trying to see the pattern but it was just wasting time. I felt so stupid to try to find out the pattern in order to predict the next result but finally I realized that there is no patterns on dice game.

There is nothing what can predict correctly in advance next roll in dice. All these are just assumptions most when someone loose money. Actually some people use different way to over come the house all are just tricks which are because of luck. If cheating was possible by any side house or player then only one party was always winning.

Yes it is possible to memorize the flow or pattern of dice sites but dice sites always change the flow of their system. Before you memorize it, they would chamge it to another pattern or even if you memorize it, it would not last long. And you will memorize all over again to figure out what is the pattern of their system.

Basically, whether we memorise the pattern or not but all dice scripts will not follow the same script for forever. They know all these things ever well, and they will make sure no one can predict the exact results always correct and that's why they always win, and players will end up losing. This game is not a mind game but it mostly depends on luck.

Of course its possible, like its possible to remember all card in black jack, or all numbers in roulette. That can make your game much better, if you can memorize or previous results.
But I read about it, and every hand in gambling is independent from previous ones. That mean it doesn't matter how good you can memorize previous bets, result can always be surprise.
From reading other people experiences in gambling, I think more luck and profit make people who bet on surprises and people who chase higher odd`s.

No, you are overthinking it all. There is no strategy in Dice so there is no anti-strategy to it. You are not asking if dice rolls outcome can be memorized, you want to know if you can be cheated by the house.
Well, if provably fair system is implemented and is working as intended then you can't.
But there are sites who in theory have Provably Fair system implemented yet there are rumors spreading they are cheating - for example 999dice.com

Everybody has their own beliefs. And I do believe that the pattern is exist, just as I believe that God there, eventhough that is illogical. Thats the part of my strategy for a long time. The previous results can be used to determine the results of the future.

There is no pattern in Dice. Every single roll is independent roll and is uninfluenced by others - that is if system is not cheating.
That is why every strategy in dice is pure biased fiction and in the end you will got the same results by flat betting.

Nope, this is impossible. Dice games was made using a code that will randomize each roll numbers, and I think that the house cannot detect those strategies, all of it will depend on your luck and skill. And also there's no strategy in dice even if you use your mathematical skills just to figure out a method.

What you mean sort of like counting cards like in poker?
Not possible with dice. Each roll is independent of the next one. They have no correlation with each other.
Dice sites probably fairness tries to even out this inconsistency but it still is not too level in the players favor.

The outcome number was random and its a game of chance. Luck is the only way to win in a game like dice. Pattern in a pure luck based game is only a theory IMO.

Yes, you cannot memorize the flow of the rolls in the dice game. As stated above, they uses provably fair and make random rolls. There may be patters appearing but it wont last. Time comes that it will change. Even the martingle strategy is countered sometimes by the roll. I was using it but sometimes my balance turns into ash due to consecutive loss. So, luck is the only way to win.

yes the pattern can be repeated twice or most is three but after that another sets will showed up eating all your bet since you are expecting it to happen no real pattern for dice and even you are the smart person the system will still wins against you because you are letting him to read your pattern and he himself will change the way he can defeat you.

I think it's useless by doing that, because i think it's completely random and that provably fair thing always find a way to make us busted and follow the flow is not the answer imo.

if it is possible, i think there will be no dice site out there that are getting profit almost daily and in provably fair there is no way someone or software that can know what will be that outcome of every bet

It's impossible to follow pattern or flow on dice as you said you can't predict the next result and it won't really happen since dice sites uses hashes that changes every time as you roll the dice it means it's a pure luck that's gambling there's no such strategies exist only two ways thing for sure a success or a total disaster on your money. :)

That is correct. No one can predict accurately always in a dice game or in any probably fair games. As you said, if anyone can do then they will be the almost immediate millionaire and also dice should site will close soon or later.  This is just a guessing game and some people guess correct sometimes and they think they got a strategy to win until they lose all next time.

There is pattern but it needs like billion of tries in order to spot a pattern and intensive research to formula the outcome. Usually the formula consider of at least 2 factors and finding out each factor will take up tremendous amount of time. Even cracking the hidden code is so difficult, the casino will have schedule to change the code too so in real life casino, imagine you delicate yourself to cracking for half a year, when you are so close to getting the formula, everything change again. This can be done in the past but now the newer version of machine are program to frequent change the code.

i did do that but instead i made a chart of the wins and loss i'm only using 100 satoshi per bet top
complete the chart. after completing the chart i used it as basis for my next gambling session and
i use my normal bet (1mbtc per bet) and the result was different. i don't know if there is a different
flow for every amount of bet, it may not be a fruitful result but it was a experience for me.

 

How do you determine what would happen next even if you manage to remember the last 50 results ? What algos will your brains use faster than a computer to predict the next results ? For your information,that is martingle ,which didn't turn out that effective in provable fair websites.

I tried this write down before but it is not helpful to make a strategy to play on dice game, when we go to play with 2x payout than possible chance 50-50 for both sides, so that I think this can just headache to keep writing them or memorized, because dice depend on our luck when start betting.

You can't memorize because there is nothing to memorize but I see what you saying sometimes you can predict and be right. The dice game seems to predict your strategy as to what most people will do next so you can learn it and do the opposite. Of coarse it won't always work but it has worked for me a few times.  

as long as the dice site you are playing at is not scamming you and as long as it is provably fair (which you can check it by the way) there is no way they can do any shenanigans and predict/change the result of your rolls.
although this is the feeling that we all get when we lose, we all want to blame someone else for our losses.

I don't think it is possible, as the seeds are random everytime, so there is no fixed pattern.

I ever tried to follow the dice flow, for hundreds roll i still can follow it even though its not 100% correct but it is at least more than 80% correct, but it wont work when i try with a bigger bet, i dont know whether this is just coicidence or the system can detect it

i think its impossible to memorize it, but if you have six sense that you can always predict and you always right, then its possible. as always, in the end the house can win in all games.

The amount of cluelessness and misinformation in this thread astounds me.  

If you want to play like there's a pattern because you think it's fun, then go for it.  I've done this before just because it breaks up the monotony.  This doesn't change the fact though that every single roll is independent of one another.  There are absolutely zero patterns in what the roll outcome will be.

Lots of posts in this thread talking about "the house detecting your strategy" also.  Absolute fucking garbage.  Every single roll is pre-determined the second your seed is set.  There is no change.  They don't adjust it as you play.  This is impossible and defeats the provability.  Whatever seed you have set on any of your dice accounts right now already has determined what your roll outcome will be 10 million bets from now.  This also squashes the common and stupid idea that "the higher you bet, the more you lose."  The only reason you think you lose when you bet higher is because you have the tendency to deplete your balance faster.

Gamblers fallacy.  It's a helluva drug.

If you have a high IQ you can be momorize it but if you have a low IQ better to save it with screen shot and save it to docs..all your dice result..
Screen shot and docs is nice combination as your proof if the site looks frauds you can save those as your proof.. if they are giving a provably fair or not..

Question is why would you memorize it. I see no point, since the outcome is the same (win for casino, lost of player).
Dice, at least a good dice site can't be manipulated for your own winnings,

You seem to contract yourself. You say that every single roll is independent of one another but you also say that every roll is determined from your seed. That means that all the roll is partially determine by your seed (and also the other hidden part from the server) and so in a way, every roll is directly/indirectly relate to the next roll.

yeah why would you memorize it,? for earning?

always keep in mind that as long as a gambler plays a game which is fully based on luck, there is no such thing as winning more than what he lose for his part.

And another thing, there is no such way to memorize the results of the dice, even you capture it with a lot of screenshots.

all of the results are randomly generated in a way that it is not run in a pattern, programmers are not dumb to make an algorithm that will make a pattern. make sense.

I've tried to follow the pattern with small bets, and then I try to bet bigger than before, and the results you can guess yourself (T_T)
now I just play using feeling like pairs or not, maybe just a fortune now I never again suffered huge losses

I think the point is he wants to save those history of his play and he wants to verify all his game if there is no fraud or lier in the game..
He wants to record all games and bets as a proof that the gambling is not a lier and provably fair..

You can try anything by writing down all the bets, changing size of the bets and winning chances. You always reach to same destiny if you are playing on provably fair site. All these are impressions because there is no script or pattern which can be followed to control or guess the results. Many people have claimed in past of bots but nothing was solid or trustworthy so far.

Totally agree. I am sure that majority gamblers in situation where they have flipped tails five times in a row - would say - the next flip will probably be heads for sure!
And they try to incorporate this way of thinking into every possible casino game!

The answer to Op question is - You can memorize the results but it won't give you any advantage whatsoever.

Nope man, you can't possibly memorize it, its about client seed and server seed, which even the fastest computer is impossible to get it, try reading about what is hash encryption (example: sha 256), and imagine how many chars is that.  8) 8) 8)

Every roll is predetermined, and every roll is 100% random.  The previous roll in a sequence has no bearing on what the next roll is going to be.

No you can not. It is a game of chance.

You can't success in a dice game people. Accept it. There is not one singel successful strategy you can follow when you play dice. If you are going to play dice the best thing you can do is wagering everything you have in a x2 game. Go all in @x2 and never look back again whether you win or lose.

this is too risky but the saddest part was true win or lose just give it a try when you win bang the reward and quit when you lose that's gambling mate and no one can win the house that easy just a matter of luck.