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Title: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: willy_00 on July 16, 2016, 03:41:34 AM TOR browser is now very insecure and slow. Any other suggestions of browsers for browsing the dark web.
Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: anubizz on July 17, 2016, 06:53:03 PM What makes you think TOR to be insecure now? ;D
For the clearweb you can use JonDonym or a VPN. And as only option i know you can use NordVPN's VPN+ Tor server for the deepweb. But i would stay with TOR browser if i was you. ;) Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: RicSpag on July 17, 2016, 10:43:05 PM TOR is the best option you have. If you don't make mistakes like signing into a private account then you're good. You could use a bridge to make it more secure.
Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: Sir Reginald on July 17, 2016, 11:38:56 PM Of course it's slow, why would it be fast?
As for being insecure, where did you get THAT impression? Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: Your Point Is Invalid on July 17, 2016, 11:48:39 PM Your only real alternative would be tails, its a linux OS that you can boot off of anything like a CD or a thumb drive. As far as speed goes, tails routes everything through TOR so you wont get any increased speeds but the security on tails is better, tails only uses RAM for storage so when you turn off your computer, everything will be deleted and you wont leave a trace
Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: Novalok on July 17, 2016, 11:50:11 PM Tor has never been 100% secure and its even less secure today then it was years ago when it started
Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: European Central Bank on July 17, 2016, 11:58:54 PM http://news.softpedia.com/news/riffle-our-anonymity-network-is-better-than-tor-says-mit-506231.shtml
there's a new player coming and there it is above. it's called riffle and it claims to remove the rogue server problem. Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: Sir Reginald on July 18, 2016, 12:20:50 AM Your only real alternative would be tails, its a linux OS that you can boot off of anything like a CD or a thumb drive. As far as speed goes, tails routes everything through TOR so you wont get any increased speeds but the security on tails is better, tails only uses RAM for storage so when you turn off your computer, everything will be deleted and you wont leave a trace TAILS is not the only alternative, then. Whonix is another. Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: NyeFe on July 18, 2016, 12:34:28 AM Quote To do so, the FBI carried out a NIT, or network investigative technique, and bypassed Tor to gather IP addresses, MAC addresses, and other bits of information on the suspects. Judge Bryan issued an order in February asking the FBI to explain how exactly it was able to subvert Tor. The order was prompted partly because lawyers for Michaud argued that some parts of the code the agency initially disclosed appeared to be absent Source: FBI MUM ON HOW EXACTLY IT HACKED TOR (https://threatpost.com/fbi-mum-on-how-exactly-it-hacked-tor/117127/) Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: Valzador on July 18, 2016, 03:52:06 AM TOR browser is now very insecure and slow. Any other suggestions of browsers for browsing the dark web. The darkweb can only be accessed via Tor. You should probably just use a VPN over Tor to protect your anonymity more. Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: MolecularAstrologist on July 24, 2016, 12:12:01 AM TOR browser is now very insecure and slow. Any other suggestions of browsers for browsing the dark web. If you don't know that you can only access .onion sites through Tor, maybe you shouldn't be making claims about Tor browser being insecure... just saying... Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: Poopp_Doggg on July 26, 2016, 07:08:07 PM Your only real alternative would be tails, its a linux OS that you can boot off of anything like a CD or a thumb drive. As far as speed goes, tails routes everything through TOR so you wont get any increased speeds but the security on tails is better, tails only uses RAM for storage so when you turn off your computer, everything will be deleted and you wont leave a trace TAILS is not the only alternative, then. Whonix is another. I've heard of whonix, I know some advanced guys use it for good opsec. Do you have a lot of experience with it? Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: vdotcash on July 26, 2016, 09:03:21 PM TOR browser is now very insecure and slow. Any other suggestions of browsers for browsing the dark web. https://techcrunch.com/2016/07/11/mits-anonymous-online-communications-protocol-riffle-could-beat-tor-at-its-own-game/Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: mrjersey03 on July 28, 2016, 02:42:50 AM Of course it's slow, why would it be fast?
Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: Sir Reginald on August 02, 2016, 06:32:05 PM Your only real alternative would be tails, its a linux OS that you can boot off of anything like a CD or a thumb drive. As far as speed goes, tails routes everything through TOR so you wont get any increased speeds but the security on tails is better, tails only uses RAM for storage so when you turn off your computer, everything will be deleted and you wont leave a trace TAILS is not the only alternative, then. Whonix is another. I've heard of whonix, I know some advanced guys use it for good opsec. Do you have a lot of experience with it? Yes, I do. I use it because It is a lot more flexible than TAILS, and a lot safer than simply using Tor Browser on your host. I run all kinds of custom workstation VMs (including Windows) through whonix gateway, and don't have to worry about any IP or DNS leaks. Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: CarsonGracie on August 03, 2016, 01:30:49 PM Your only real alternative would be tails, its a linux OS that you can boot off of anything like a CD or a thumb drive. As far as speed goes, tails routes everything through TOR so you wont get any increased speeds but the security on tails is better, tails only uses RAM for storage so when you turn off your computer, everything will be deleted and you wont leave a trace TAILS is not the only alternative, then. Whonix is another. I've heard of whonix, I know some advanced guys use it for good opsec. Do you have a lot of experience with it? Yes, I do. I use it because It is a lot more flexible than TAILS, and a lot safer than simply using Tor Browser on your host. I run all kinds of custom workstation VMs (including Windows) through whonix gateway, and don't have to worry about any IP or DNS leaks. Thanks for your posts. I'm now reading whonix documentation and planning to get it set up asap. Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: bitmarketads on August 03, 2016, 01:48:29 PM how safe is it on a scale from 1 to 10 to use a VM??
and how safe is it to use tails from 1 to 10? Why im asking is i want to make a plot to assasinate trump or hillary or both - just kidding ;) or lets just say what would i need to do online in order that a VM or tails wouldnt protect me?? Im sure that the NSA or any of those alphabet boys groups dont look in anything we do- but when do they get interessted in someone? Wht triggers the NSA or any of these evil government bullies?? I would be flabbergasted if the NSA would look into what im doing- especially cause i like to watch midget porn Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: Poopp_Doggg on August 03, 2016, 08:37:20 PM Your only real alternative would be tails, its a linux OS that you can boot off of anything like a CD or a thumb drive. As far as speed goes, tails routes everything through TOR so you wont get any increased speeds but the security on tails is better, tails only uses RAM for storage so when you turn off your computer, everything will be deleted and you wont leave a trace TAILS is not the only alternative, then. Whonix is another. I've heard of whonix, I know some advanced guys use it for good opsec. Do you have a lot of experience with it? Yes, I do. I use it because It is a lot more flexible than TAILS, and a lot safer than simply using Tor Browser on your host. I run all kinds of custom workstation VMs (including Windows) through whonix gateway, and don't have to worry about any IP or DNS leaks. I tried to make Windows7 VM connect through whonix gateway but it's not working. I'm doing something wrong. Can you advise on how to make it connect? Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: CoinsOrDie on August 03, 2016, 09:20:44 PM Why use something else?
Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: CarsonGracie on August 04, 2016, 02:23:47 PM Your only real alternative would be tails, its a linux OS that you can boot off of anything like a CD or a thumb drive. As far as speed goes, tails routes everything through TOR so you wont get any increased speeds but the security on tails is better, tails only uses RAM for storage so when you turn off your computer, everything will be deleted and you wont leave a trace TAILS is not the only alternative, then. Whonix is another. Thank you. Whonix really looks good, I'm learning about all the security and anonymity features on whonix website right now and I'm glad I found it because of you. I'll be using it for a lot of things once I get it all figured out and set up. Title: Re: Alternatives to TOR? Post by: Sir Reginald on August 07, 2016, 08:39:39 PM I tried to make Windows7 VM connect through whonix gateway but it's not working. I'm doing something wrong. Can you advise on how to make it connect? In VirtualBox VM Settings, choose Internal Network, choose "Whonix" as the network name (same as you see in whonix gateway and workstation settings). Then change LAN IP: In Control Panel -> Network and Sharing Center: click on "Change adapter settings" Right-click on local area connection > properties In property window: double-click Internet Protocol Version 4, use the following settings: IP address 10.152.152.x Subnet netmask 255.255.192.0 Default gateway 10.152.152.10 Preferred DNS server 10.152.152.10 *where "x" is any number except 10, because 10 belongs to the gateway. |