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Title: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: lucky80 on July 16, 2016, 01:17:16 PM
Hello Cryptominer

Today i left my browser with my Yobit account open... i was too tired and fell a sleep....
When i woke up ...my yobit account had sent 0.09 btc to the hacker account....the hacker cancelled my scan order and sell it to 10 satoshi....he sell my ether too at update price....too bad ididnt active confirmation to email for withdrawal...

Suspicious at mermaid, putin and radical wallet that i opened when this happen....i had est 90000 putin but it didnt lost.
Another wallet open was scan, ponzi and swap token...coin inside these wallet was safe....radical wallet has most suspicious because it wont open but running in taskmanager....anyone running mermaid wallet ? Can you confirm this wallet is safe...

Beware to mermaid and radical wallet....

Now im scanning my system

I will report result later

Thanks


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: robelneo on July 16, 2016, 01:22:38 PM
Hello Cryptominer

Today i left my browser with my Yobit account open... i was too tired and fell a sleep....
When i woke up ...my yobit account had sent 0.09 btc to the hacker account....the hacker cancelled my scan order and sell it to 10 satoshi....he sell my ether too at update price....too bad ididnt active confirmation to email for withdrawal...

Suspicios at mermaid, putin and radical wallet that i opened when this happen....i had est 90000 putin but it didnt lost.
Another wallet open was scan, ponzi and swap token...coin inside these wallet was safe....radical wallet has most suspicious because it wont open but running in taskmanager....anyone running mermaid wallet ? Can you confirm this wallet is safe...

Beware to mermaid and radical wallet....

Now im scanning my system

I will report result later

Thanks


I'm not using any of those wallet and before I download and run any wallet I made sure I scanned it on virustotal but this unfortunate if it is true that a wallet has done,it all means that they can inject virus or back door through those wallets,I will wait for your update to see if it is really those wallets..


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: manasd on July 16, 2016, 01:24:10 PM
Ohh, god
waiting from you news about virus


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: PhilPrime on July 16, 2016, 01:45:59 PM
Hi OP. First of all do you install any suspicious application before you log in your yobit? Maybe the hacker put a key logger connected directly to his gmail. I experince that too on c-cex site


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: len01 on July 16, 2016, 01:47:51 PM
damn man, sorry to hear that


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: fortunecrypto on July 16, 2016, 01:58:45 PM
You should get a warning if you have a very good anti virus like karspersky or malware anti malware they are very good in tracing key logger,this is very unfortunate and also would like to know if the key logger comes from those wallet you are running..


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: Robertqueen2 on July 16, 2016, 02:02:10 PM
I think yobit must improve the accounts security level , it is the only exchange from which you can withdraw without a withdrawal confirmation e-mail , I have tried all other exchanges like Cryptopia and Bittrex and many others , all these exchanges send a confirmation e-mail to confirm that who is withdrawing is the account owner , but yobit have not added this feature.
On the side note : I think your thread must be in service discussion section not in this section.


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: cjmining on July 16, 2016, 02:05:26 PM
Yobit have 2 fa for the login but don't require it to confirm any withdrawal, which is a mistake i feel. They should add 2fa to any withdrawal request.


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: ethereumhunter on July 16, 2016, 02:13:00 PM
Yobit have 2 fa for the login but don't require it to confirm any withdrawal, which is a mistake i feel. They should add 2fa to any withdrawal request.

beside 2fa, yobit have email confirmation if the user trying to login in different location or different IP, because i have this experience since my modem IP has always change in every few days.


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: lucky80 on July 16, 2016, 02:14:12 PM
Hi OP. First of all do you install any suspicious application before you log in your yobit? Maybe the hacker put a key logger connected directly to his gmail. I experince that too on c-cex site

No  i never install suspicious application .... this happen when those wallet open and my browser also...with yobit account logged in...i didnt check my rise wallet ...becoz it open too....the scanning is running now....gut upset becoz my miner software got deleted in this scanning process lol....

ahhh did anyone can confirm coinium server save...recently i mess my pc trying to build mining pool server...but it cannot connect from outside world....i also install no-ip....team viewer was running too...but no one had never connect my pc....except im the one connect from my laptop....

Well there is much much thing to analyze...still waiting for avast to scan my system....

Avast was there but i disabled the protection becoz im too lazy to exclude miner software...LOL




Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: lucky80 on July 16, 2016, 02:16:01 PM
damn man, sorry to hear that

Yeah man...sad that im loosing my miner which deleted by avast lol


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: lucky80 on July 16, 2016, 02:18:57 PM
Yobit have 2 fa for the login but don't require it to confirm any withdrawal, which is a mistake i feel. They should add 2fa to any withdrawal request.
They have withdrawal confirmation email which i didnt activated lol


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: MissCrypto on July 16, 2016, 02:23:18 PM
This thread is in the wrong section but anyhow:

Radical wallet downloaded from here https://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=9024 (https://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=9024) gives these results: https://virustotal.com/en/file/e04bf0d87d625d4f5d386b9819a68287ab9e733b092dc74d994f279cb4e1761b/analysis/ (https://virustotal.com/en/file/e04bf0d87d625d4f5d386b9819a68287ab9e733b092dc74d994f279cb4e1761b/analysis/)

But radical wallet downloaded from here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1551281.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1551281.0) gives these results: https://virustotal.com/en/file/67eb8c6b0913e7549e17f3ecd70f33a14db72ac1a9abd2c15d6b67f4df198d74/analysis/ (https://virustotal.com/en/file/67eb8c6b0913e7549e17f3ecd70f33a14db72ac1a9abd2c15d6b67f4df198d74/analysis/)

So maybe this is the one.


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: fortunecrypto on July 16, 2016, 02:52:13 PM
This thread is in the wrong section but anyhow:

Radical wallet downloaded from here https://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=9024 (https://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=9024) gives these results: https://virustotal.com/en/file/e04bf0d87d625d4f5d386b9819a68287ab9e733b092dc74d994f279cb4e1761b/analysis/ (https://virustotal.com/en/file/e04bf0d87d625d4f5d386b9819a68287ab9e733b092dc74d994f279cb4e1761b/analysis/)

But radical wallet downloaded from here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1551281.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1551281.0) gives these results: https://virustotal.com/en/file/67eb8c6b0913e7549e17f3ecd70f33a14db72ac1a9abd2c15d6b67f4df198d74/analysis/ (https://virustotal.com/en/file/67eb8c6b0913e7549e17f3ecd70f33a14db72ac1a9abd2c15d6b67f4df198d74/analysis/)

So maybe this is the one.

I'm sure this is the culprit,I have both Karspersky and Eset and they are two of the best anti virus malware in the industry,I think this coin was created to hack people's wallet I will remember that altcoin and warn my friends about it..


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: lucky80 on July 16, 2016, 03:00:10 PM
This thread is in the wrong section but anyhow:

Radical wallet downloaded from here https://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=9024 (https://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=9024) gives these results: https://virustotal.com/en/file/e04bf0d87d625d4f5d386b9819a68287ab9e733b092dc74d994f279cb4e1761b/analysis/ (https://virustotal.com/en/file/e04bf0d87d625d4f5d386b9819a68287ab9e733b092dc74d994f279cb4e1761b/analysis/)

But radical wallet downloaded from here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1551281.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1551281.0) gives these results: https://virustotal.com/en/file/67eb8c6b0913e7549e17f3ecd70f33a14db72ac1a9abd2c15d6b67f4df198d74/analysis/ (https://virustotal.com/en/file/67eb8c6b0913e7549e17f3ecd70f33a14db72ac1a9abd2c15d6b67f4df198d74/analysis/)

So maybe this is the one.

Ahhh this explain... downloaded it from bitcoin talk....you can see my post there asking about wallet wont open...but running in system ....well done radical dev ...LOL


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: ImHash on July 16, 2016, 03:13:35 PM
I don't get it did you get hacked while yobit was open in browser and your wallets as well? wallets from yobit or from desktop version?
If your wallets from desktop version got hacked then how can yobit be responsible? or when you had yobit open and inside your wallets
Were open? I don't think you can actually open a wallet in yobit only deposit and withdraw functions, then while you had yobit open
Some one withdrew your coins but what does it have to do anything with desktop wallets? I'm so freaking confused.  ??? ??? ::) ::)


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: bigs21024 on July 16, 2016, 03:16:55 PM
Hello Cryptominer

Today i left my browser with my Yobit account open... i was too tired and fell a sleep....
When i woke up ...my yobit account had sent 0.09 btc to the hacker account....the hacker cancelled my scan order and sell it to 10 satoshi....he sell my ether too at update price....too bad ididnt active confirmation to email for withdrawal...

Suspicios at mermaid, putin and radical wallet that i opened when this happen....i had est 90000 putin but it didnt lost.
Another wallet open was scan, ponzi and swap token...coin inside these wallet was safe....radical wallet has most suspicious because it wont open but running in taskmanager....anyone running mermaid wallet ? Can you confirm this wallet is safe...

Beware to mermaid and radical wallet....

Now im scanning my system

I will report result later

Thanks

yes many of the wallets will show up as a virus anyway even if they do not have them but you have to be careful and make sure you download the correct one from a trusted source or it could be planted by someone other then dev. also many people have been hacked on yobit me being one and i think that it is admin doing this

I'm not using any of those wallet and before I download and run any wallet I made sure I scanned it on virustotal but this unfortunate if it is true that a wallet has done,it all means that they can inject virus or back door through those wallets,I will wait for your update to see if it is really those wallets..


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: lucky80 on July 16, 2016, 03:26:11 PM
I don't get it did you get hacked while yobit was open in browser and your wallets as well? wallets from yobit or from desktop version?
If your wallets from desktop version got hacked then how can yobit be responsible? or when you had yobit open and inside your wallets
Were open? I don't think you can actually open a wallet in yobit only deposit and withdraw functions, then while you had yobit open
Some one withdrew your coins but what does it have to do anything with desktop wallets? I'm so freaking confused.  ??? ??? ::) ::)

1st my yobit was hacked ofcourse my yobit wallet and i dont ask yobit for responsible
2nd suspicious wallet were open in my desktop pc

Thanks


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: AmoreJaz on July 16, 2016, 03:29:42 PM
It is very unhappy to hear things like this ... but it is all part of the crypto world.
and it is up to each and every single individual to assure his system is clean and well protected.
i have heard many times the same thing just changing the circumstances and in the very end its always the same issue.
if in fact we would take the precautions and the security measures actually needed then i doubt many of us would remain!
dont get me wrong as im not trying to put salt on a wound.
simply saying that im so sorry to hear this and you might want to take it in stride and a very cheap way of changing some possible bad habits and turn them into a great protection system that we all should be doing!


Amore Jaz


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: robelneo on July 16, 2016, 03:30:26 PM
This thread is in the wrong section but anyhow:

Radical wallet downloaded from here https://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=9024 (https://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=9024) gives these results: https://virustotal.com/en/file/e04bf0d87d625d4f5d386b9819a68287ab9e733b092dc74d994f279cb4e1761b/analysis/ (https://virustotal.com/en/file/e04bf0d87d625d4f5d386b9819a68287ab9e733b092dc74d994f279cb4e1761b/analysis/)

But radical wallet downloaded from here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1551281.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1551281.0) gives these results: https://virustotal.com/en/file/67eb8c6b0913e7549e17f3ecd70f33a14db72ac1a9abd2c15d6b67f4df198d74/analysis/ (https://virustotal.com/en/file/67eb8c6b0913e7549e17f3ecd70f33a14db72ac1a9abd2c15d6b67f4df198d74/analysis/)

So maybe this is the one.

Ahhh this explain... downloaded it from bitcoin talk....you can see my post there asking about wallet wont open...but running in system ....well done radical dev ...LOL

So this is the culprit ,the dev made his thread moderated so he can delete those post that warn people about the malware on their wallet,we should give this dev a negative trust it could harm the community if hes thread is not deleted or lock..


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: lucky80 on July 16, 2016, 03:32:17 PM
It is very unhappy to hear things like this ... but it is all part of the crypto world.
and it is up to each and every single individual to assure his system is clean and well protected.
i have heard many times the same thing just changing the circumstances and in the very end its always the same issue.
if in fact we would take the precautions and the security measures actually needed then i doubt many of us would remain!
dont get me wrong as im not trying to put salt on a wound.
simply saying that im so sorry to hear this and you might want to take it in stride and a very cheap way of changing some possible bad habits and turn them into a great protection system that we all should be doing!


Amore Jaz

Thankyou Sir Amore ...i will turn on my antivirus protection...this is my fault LOL


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: tiggytomb on July 16, 2016, 03:39:28 PM
That sucks, sorry to hear this and also sorry that we will always have people like this involved in this world, especially in the altcoin arena. 

I have seen a few people claiming similar things, as long as everyone is vigilant we can hopefully starve these parasites.


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: lucky80 on July 16, 2016, 03:42:32 PM
That sucks, sorry to hear this and also sorry that we will always have people like this involved in this world, especially in the altcoin arena. 

I have seen a few people claiming similar things, as long as everyone is vigilant we can hopefully starve these parasites.


Thankyou Sir ...i will aware ...gogo cryptoworld


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: AmoreJaz on July 16, 2016, 03:46:06 PM
That sucks, sorry to hear this and also sorry that we will always have people like this involved in this world, especially in the altcoin arena. 

I have seen a few people claiming similar things, as long as everyone is vigilant we can hopefully starve these parasites.



i agree that we should find a way to starve these damn thieves . im not exactly sure how it could be done but its about time to actually start some kind of control to put these guys out of business.
and yes to run all the needed precautions is a real pain in the butt but sandboxing every single one is also a punch in the head at times!
and yes this will always be part of this world!


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: kratarzu on July 16, 2016, 03:47:04 PM
That sucks, sorry to hear this and also sorry that we will always have people like this involved in this world, especially in the altcoin arena. 

I have seen a few people claiming similar things, as long as everyone is vigilant we can hopefully starve these parasites.


Thankyou Sir ...i will aware ...gogo cryptoworld

damm brother, hope to see you soon again on yobit.


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: bigs21024 on July 16, 2016, 03:57:17 PM
i hope you recover as well for me it has been hard i can't just buy BTC and start over i do not have the funds to do so i built up my alts over the years and it was a lot of hard work so it is very hard for me to do so. i don't understand how anyone could do that to someone, i have always helped people when i can and i have helped many over the years. now that i need help all of those i helped in the past totally don't know who i am now lol its sad but very true. I have met some of the worst people in crypto and some of the best. The community that follows @Mineum is the best community i have ever seen in crypto. this project will make shareholders a lot of money that's about all i have left at this point and i hope it will help me get back on my feet so i can trade like i use to. Trading is my passion i love crypto, i guess it can be a love hate at times lol but good luck bro i hope you recover i hate to see this happen but it seems it does all the time.


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: samcoin on July 16, 2016, 04:25:18 PM
You should be careful  in the next time , but I don't find any reason to keep a Bitcoin amount in an exchange , I don't let that happen , maybe I keep altcoins , but not Bitcoin , I prefer paying the transaction fee in every time I want to trade to keep it in the exchange wallet.


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: Mr.Ease on July 16, 2016, 04:31:05 PM
Bra...

if your installing all these garbage coin wallets -

You deserve to loose your... ? 60 dollars

no need to spread fud about the high quality, trusted and secure, extreemly popular exchange like YOBIT  ::)


Nothing to see here folks, move along


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: skyred_flyyang on July 16, 2016, 04:38:26 PM
It is very unhappy to hear things like this.........


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: lucky80 on July 16, 2016, 04:38:48 PM
That sucks, sorry to hear this and also sorry that we will always have people like this involved in this world, especially in the altcoin arena. 

I have seen a few people claiming similar things, as long as everyone is vigilant we can hopefully starve these parasites.


Thankyou Sir ...i will aware ...gogo cryptoworld

damm brother, hope to see you soon again on yobit.

i will in few minute LOL


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: lucky80 on July 16, 2016, 04:40:41 PM
You should be careful  in the next time , but I don't find any reason to keep a Bitcoin amount in an exchange , I don't let that happen , maybe I keep altcoins , but not Bitcoin , I prefer paying the transaction fee in every time I want to trade to keep it in the exchange wallet.
LOL that smart hacker sold est 500,000 scan also few ether not BTC bro


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: lucky80 on July 16, 2016, 04:50:12 PM
and here is the result ...scan in boot time ...and running in full scan mode now

https://i.imgur.com/97JKKf2.jpg

also found that my chrome injected with malware

https://i.imgur.com/gQfAyfP.jpg






 


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: lucky80 on July 16, 2016, 04:51:49 PM
i hope you recover as well for me it has been hard i can't just buy BTC and start over i do not have the funds to do so i built up my alts over the years and it was a lot of hard work so it is very hard for me to do so. i don't understand how anyone could do that to someone, i have always helped people when i can and i have helped many over the years. now that i need help all of those i helped in the past totally don't know who i am now lol its sad but very true. I have met some of the worst people in crypto and some of the best. The community that follows @Mineum is the best community i have ever seen in crypto. this project will make shareholders a lot of money that's about all i have left at this point and i hope it will help me get back on my feet so i can trade like i use to. Trading is my passion i love crypto, i guess it can be a love hate at times lol but good luck bro i hope you recover i hate to see this happen but it seems it does all the time.

I will recover sir ...thanks for support


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: LucioTan on July 16, 2016, 04:56:21 PM
i hope you recover as well for me it has been hard i can't just buy BTC and start over i do not have the funds to do so i built up my alts over the years and it was a lot of hard work so it is very hard for me to do so. i don't understand how anyone could do that to someone, i have always helped people when i can and i have helped many over the years. now that i need help all of those i helped in the past totally don't know who i am now lol its sad but very true. I have met some of the worst people in crypto and some of the best. The community that follows @Mineum is the best community i have ever seen in crypto. this project will make shareholders a lot of money that's about all i have left at this point and i hope it will help me get back on my feet so i can trade like i use to. Trading is my passion i love crypto, i guess it can be a love hate at times lol but good luck bro i hope you recover i hate to see this happen but it seems it does all the time.

I will recover sir ...thanks for support

Aw. Sad to hear that Bro :'( But I hope you will recover it. Must learn a lesson huh? Make sure that your wallet is safe and don't forget to put a 2FA even in the withdrawal so that you can avoid this incidence again. Mermaid wallet, I'd never heard of that wallet but I think you should transfer to another wallet which is more secure. I suggest you use Blockchain because it has many layers of authentication and hacking is really a problem in this wallet.


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: lucky80 on July 16, 2016, 04:57:48 PM
Bra...

if your installing all these garbage coin wallets -

You deserve to loose your... ? 60 dollars

no need to spread fud about the high quality, trusted and secure, extreemly popular exchange like YOBIT  ::)


Nothing to see here folks, move along


Yeah its my fault and i deserve it... its not YObit Fault ... I was lucky not to loose all LOL .....but not of them is garbage ....LOL


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: lucky80 on July 16, 2016, 04:59:19 PM
i hope you recover as well for me it has been hard i can't just buy BTC and start over i do not have the funds to do so i built up my alts over the years and it was a lot of hard work so it is very hard for me to do so. i don't understand how anyone could do that to someone, i have always helped people when i can and i have helped many over the years. now that i need help all of those i helped in the past totally don't know who i am now lol its sad but very true. I have met some of the worst people in crypto and some of the best. The community that follows @Mineum is the best community i have ever seen in crypto. this project will make shareholders a lot of money that's about all i have left at this point and i hope it will help me get back on my feet so i can trade like i use to. Trading is my passion i love crypto, i guess it can be a love hate at times lol but good luck bro i hope you recover i hate to see this happen but it seems it does all the time.

I will recover sir ...thanks for support

Aw. Sad to hear that Bro :'( But I hope you will recover it. Must learn a lesson huh? Make sure that your wallet is safe and don't forget to put a 2FA even in the withdrawal so that you can avoid this incidence again. Mermaid wallet, I'd never heard of that wallet but I think you should transfer to another wallet which is more secure. I suggest you use Blockchain because it has many layers of authentication and hacking is really a problem in this wallet.

Thanks For supporting BRO ...


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: socks435 on July 16, 2016, 05:45:33 PM
The only thing that i can say its not fault with yobit you are victim of virus which is called keylogger or auto bot sender ..that can decrease automaticaly  your yobit will decrease balance once your ip is monitored from them and they know what you do.. better to use hirens with complete tool to solve the malware and virus


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: lucky80 on July 16, 2016, 06:02:15 PM
The only thing that i can say its not fault with yobit you are victim of virus which is called keylogger or auto bot sender ..that can decrease automaticaly  your yobit will decrease balance once your ip is monitored from them and they know what you do.. better to use hirens with complete tool to solve the malware and virus

thankyou sir for your advice....


Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: lucky80 on July 16, 2016, 07:27:29 PM
the hacker was sent my btc with this tx id

6f8092be0f21ecbe10bb0e2acfeb72e85429401625d8d3b71eed4b156c7383b9

https://i.imgur.com/8qB1Rt3.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/Bl9tmXJ.jpg



Title: Re: Warning I Just Got Hacked In Yobit
Post by: enhu on July 16, 2016, 07:34:48 PM
I don't get it did you get hacked while yobit was open in browser and your wallets as well? wallets from yobit or from desktop version?
If your wallets from desktop version got hacked then how can yobit be responsible? or when you had yobit open and inside your wallets
Were open? I don't think you can actually open a wallet in yobit only deposit and withdraw functions, then while you had yobit open
Some one withdrew your coins but what does it have to do anything with desktop wallets? I'm so freaking confused.  ??? ??? ::) ::)

He didn't said its yobits fault. i think when the radical wallet is open the rat works sending btc to a wallet. don't quote me but this how i understood it.
Whoever created the wallet sure had intentions of doing it. The Dev has liabilities too.