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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Anduck on July 17, 2016, 09:38:15 PM



Title: [RESOLVED] Dogevisitor refused to pay for a ticket
Post by: Anduck on July 17, 2016, 09:38:15 PM
What happened:: User dogevisitor refused to pay for a raffle ticket worth of 0.03 BTC. We had agreed in private that he will pay later. Raffle filled up and he didn't win, and he then refused to pay for the ticket.

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355948

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1508417.msg15198064#msg15198064
Amount Scammed: 0.03 BTC

Edit:
Resolved. Dogevisitor paid the 0.03 btc ticket amount. Read thread for more info.


Title: Re: Dogevisitor refused to pay for a ticket
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on July 18, 2016, 11:32:31 AM
How is he refusing to pay for the ticket. Has he actually said 'I am not paying for the ticket' or is he not responding to PM's? I'm sure there is a good reason since he is a fairly trusted member. Scamming someone for 0.03 BTC doesn't make sense :/.


Title: Re: Dogevisitor refused to pay for a ticket
Post by: Anduck on July 18, 2016, 11:37:59 AM
How is he refusing to pay for the ticket. Has he actually said 'I am not paying for the ticket' or is he not responding to PM's? I'm sure there is a good reason since he is a fairly trusted member. Scamming someone for 0.03 BTC doesn't make sense :/.


He said he "though it was cancelled" even though earlier he had clearly said he will pay it later and there was no messages of cancellation and his ticket was also visible at the thread starting post, etc. He did respond to my PMs.


Title: Re: Dogevisitor refused to pay for a ticket
Post by: Quickseller on July 18, 2016, 10:25:59 PM
I sent a PM to him asking for him to respond to the thread.


Title: Re: Dogevisitor refused to pay for a ticket
Post by: dogevisitor on July 19, 2016, 08:34:05 AM
Hi guys!

Indeed I told Anduck that I would pay as soon as more spots are filled.
That week I was out of town and didn't have acces to my wallet, so I wasn't able to pay on time.

Seems my ticket wasn't invalidated, even if I didn't paid, and the raffle begun, forcing me to pay.
This didn't seemed fair to me...
Most of the raffle owners, invalidated someone's bid if he didn't paid on time.

Anyhow, I will pay 0.03 to Anduck just to solve this dispute, but still, this doesn't feel right for me.

Anduck: Please post here a payment address and will pay in max 24h.


Title: Re: Dogevisitor refused to pay for a ticket
Post by: dogevisitor on July 19, 2016, 12:07:23 PM
Hi guys!

Indeed I told Anduck that I would pay as soon as more spots are filled.
That week I was out of town and didn't have acces to my wallet, so I wasn't able to pay on time.

Seems my ticket wasn't invalidated, even if I didn't paid, and the raffle begun, forcing me to pay.
This didn't seemed fair to me...
Most of the raffle owners, invalidated someone's bid if he didn't paid on time.

Anyhow, I will pay 0.03 to Anduck just to solve this dispute, but still, this doesn't feel right for me.

Anduck: Please post here a payment address and will pay in max 24h.

Paid: https://blockchain.info/tx/4bccd26927b2ae566d0a54cac7f83a5330956531543df6a4cf8f9ea9e54b5248 (https://blockchain.info/tx/4bccd26927b2ae566d0a54cac7f83a5330956531543df6a4cf8f9ea9e54b5248)


Title: Re: Dogevisitor refused to pay for a ticket
Post by: Anduck on July 19, 2016, 12:17:13 PM
Hi guys!

Indeed I told Anduck that I would pay as soon as more spots are filled.
That week I was out of town and didn't have acces to my wallet, so I wasn't able to pay on time.

Seems my ticket wasn't invalidated, even if I didn't paid, and the raffle begun, forcing me to pay.
This didn't seemed fair to me...
Most of the raffle owners, invalidated someone's bid if he didn't paid on time.

Anyhow, I will pay 0.03 to Anduck just to solve this dispute, but still, this doesn't feel right for me.

Anduck: Please post here a payment address and will pay in max 24h.

Paid: https://blockchain.info/tx/4bccd26927b2ae566d0a54cac7f83a5330956531543df6a4cf8f9ea9e54b5248 (https://blockchain.info/tx/4bccd26927b2ae566d0a54cac7f83a5330956531543df6a4cf8f9ea9e54b5248)

I've not sent you a payment address. You sent money to someone else.


Title: Re: Dogevisitor refused to pay for a ticket
Post by: Quickseller on July 19, 2016, 12:23:13 PM
Hi guys!

Indeed I told Anduck that I would pay as soon as more spots are filled.
That week I was out of town and didn't have acces to my wallet, so I wasn't able to pay on time.

Seems my ticket wasn't invalidated, even if I didn't paid, and the raffle begun, forcing me to pay.
This didn't seemed fair to me...
Most of the raffle owners, invalidated someone's bid if he didn't paid on time.

Anyhow, I will pay 0.03 to Anduck just to solve this dispute, but still, this doesn't feel right for me.

Anduck: Please post here a payment address and will pay in max 24h.

Paid: https://blockchain.info/tx/4bccd26927b2ae566d0a54cac7f83a5330956531543df6a4cf8f9ea9e54b5248 (https://blockchain.info/tx/4bccd26927b2ae566d0a54cac7f83a5330956531543df6a4cf8f9ea9e54b5248)

I've not sent you a payment address. You sent money to someone else.
Did he send to the raffle address?


Title: Re: Dogevisitor refused to pay for a ticket
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on July 19, 2016, 12:27:09 PM
I've not sent you a payment address. You sent money to someone else.
You must be trippin.I'm sure he is suppose to send the money at the raffle thread which is below.Its from your raffle thread,how can it be someone else's address ? ::)
Hi!

Another raffle!
Raffling Casascius Bitcoin Bowl Coin and bonus low serial (L39) Denarium 10mBTC brass coin! (pics in thread!) There are 16 tickets. Last character of the block hash of a block chosen when all tickets are sold will choose the winner.
One ticket costs 0.03 BTC. Shipping is free worldwide. Payment address is 1KyNz3BnSD7MvjC8KJqH5CRTV9PMiteRxu or you can PM me for a private payment address.

Tickets:

The money is sent at the correct address I believe.Neither you messaged him any private address I guess,would be better if you upload the screenshots of the talks between you two.


Title: Re: Dogevisitor refused to pay for a ticket
Post by: Anduck on July 19, 2016, 12:27:25 PM
Hi guys!

Indeed I told Anduck that I would pay as soon as more spots are filled.
That week I was out of town and didn't have acces to my wallet, so I wasn't able to pay on time.

Seems my ticket wasn't invalidated, even if I didn't paid, and the raffle begun, forcing me to pay.
This didn't seemed fair to me...
Most of the raffle owners, invalidated someone's bid if he didn't paid on time.

Anyhow, I will pay 0.03 to Anduck just to solve this dispute, but still, this doesn't feel right for me.

Anduck: Please post here a payment address and will pay in max 24h.

Paid: https://blockchain.info/tx/4bccd26927b2ae566d0a54cac7f83a5330956531543df6a4cf8f9ea9e54b5248 (https://blockchain.info/tx/4bccd26927b2ae566d0a54cac7f83a5330956531543df6a4cf8f9ea9e54b5248)

I've not sent you a payment address. You sent money to someone else.
Did he send to the raffle address?

Thanks! Indeed, he sent to the raffle address.


Title: Re: Dogevisitor refused to pay for a ticket
Post by: Anduck on July 19, 2016, 12:29:07 PM
I've not sent you a payment address. You sent money to someone else.
You must be trippin.I'm sure he is suppose to send the money at the raffle thread which is below.

He asked me to post a payment address.

Quote
Anduck: Please post here a payment address and will pay in max 24h.

I also had provided him a private payment address via PM in our earlier discussions.


Title: Re: Dogevisitor refused to pay for a ticket
Post by: Quickseller on July 19, 2016, 12:33:24 PM
Hi guys!

Indeed I told Anduck that I would pay as soon as more spots are filled.
That week I was out of town and didn't have acces to my wallet, so I wasn't able to pay on time.

Seems my ticket wasn't invalidated, even if I didn't paid, and the raffle begun, forcing me to pay.
This didn't seemed fair to me...
Most of the raffle owners, invalidated someone's bid if he didn't paid on time.

Anyhow, I will pay 0.03 to Anduck just to solve this dispute, but still, this doesn't feel right for me.

Anduck: Please post here a payment address and will pay in max 24h.

Paid: https://blockchain.info/tx/4bccd26927b2ae566d0a54cac7f83a5330956531543df6a4cf8f9ea9e54b5248 (https://blockchain.info/tx/4bccd26927b2ae566d0a54cac7f83a5330956531543df6a4cf8f9ea9e54b5248)

I've not sent you a payment address. You sent money to someone else.
Did he send to the raffle address?

Thanks! Indeed, he sent to the raffle address.
Great! I'm glad this was able to get quickly resolved! (You might want to change the title/OP to reflect resolved). :)


Title: Re: Dogevisitor refused to pay for a ticket
Post by: dogevisitor on July 19, 2016, 12:40:25 PM
Hi guys!

Indeed I told Anduck that I would pay as soon as more spots are filled.
That week I was out of town and didn't have acces to my wallet, so I wasn't able to pay on time.

Seems my ticket wasn't invalidated, even if I didn't paid, and the raffle begun, forcing me to pay.
This didn't seemed fair to me...
Most of the raffle owners, invalidated someone's bid if he didn't paid on time.

Anyhow, I will pay 0.03 to Anduck just to solve this dispute, but still, this doesn't feel right for me.

Anduck: Please post here a payment address and will pay in max 24h.

Paid: https://blockchain.info/tx/4bccd26927b2ae566d0a54cac7f83a5330956531543df6a4cf8f9ea9e54b5248 (https://blockchain.info/tx/4bccd26927b2ae566d0a54cac7f83a5330956531543df6a4cf8f9ea9e54b5248)

I've not sent you a payment address. You sent money to someone else.
Did he send to the raffle address?

Thanks! Indeed, he sent to the raffle address.

I took the liberty to send to the raffle address, I hope that is not a problem.
Also I hope we can do better business in the future.


Title: Re: Dogevisitor refused to pay for a ticket
Post by: Anduck on July 19, 2016, 02:03:19 PM
Hi guys!

Indeed I told Anduck that I would pay as soon as more spots are filled.
That week I was out of town and didn't have acces to my wallet, so I wasn't able to pay on time.

Seems my ticket wasn't invalidated, even if I didn't paid, and the raffle begun, forcing me to pay.
This didn't seemed fair to me...
Most of the raffle owners, invalidated someone's bid if he didn't paid on time.

Anyhow, I will pay 0.03 to Anduck just to solve this dispute, but still, this doesn't feel right for me.

Anduck: Please post here a payment address and will pay in max 24h.

Paid: https://blockchain.info/tx/4bccd26927b2ae566d0a54cac7f83a5330956531543df6a4cf8f9ea9e54b5248 (https://blockchain.info/tx/4bccd26927b2ae566d0a54cac7f83a5330956531543df6a4cf8f9ea9e54b5248)

I've not sent you a payment address. You sent money to someone else.
Did he send to the raffle address?

Thanks! Indeed, he sent to the raffle address.

I took the liberty to send to the raffle address, I hope that is not a problem.
Also I hope we can do better business in the future.

Not a problem. Thanks.

We didn't talk about any timeouts. Simply, we agreed that you pay for the ticket later. I don't see why the ticket should've been invalidated, since it was already bought by you (but waiting for payment, which we agreed you'll deal with later.)

Or in other words, it was clearly not a reservation or anything like that: it was a buy ("I'll take C") with delayed payment.