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Sorry for those hurt or under the cast or spell. There is O judeo influence in the founding fathers of America. Democracy, Liberty, rule of law, egality before the law, forgiveness, the Christ... please enlight me with what the judeo part is? I don't know and can't find a single one!

Just before the usual suspects goes into overdrive attacks, denials or what ever new schemes... Ask you this: the Revelation of the Christ were told to mostly people holding judeo values... And they became Christians. End of the discussion. I will repeat it to make it clearer they were following Judeo values, saw and listen to the Christ and left the Judeo values. They chose to follow new values, a new covenant. So saying Judeo-Christians is something I find quite illogical independently of if those values have been foundational for America... There is a mathematical incompatibility in saying Judeo Christians values as a one block. Or you follow the revelation of the Christ told by his apostles or you don't. And just as a last reminder the Judeo part of those values were the justification used to crucify him... Under Judeo values Pilate can't be forgiven, under the Christian one... Welcome;).

Judeo-Christian is like saying wet-dry state or poor-rich... It's illogical. I welcome all refutations, explanations, beliefs or arguments for or against or what ever on the subject. But please be polite and not aggressive.

And like Constantine would have said: I saw a cross.

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The word "Christ" is the ancient Greek form of the ancient Hebrew word "Messiah." Christ and Messiah mean the same thing.

The whole idea of Christianity was what the Old Testament in the Bible was all about.

The Old Testament was Hebrew (Judeo) because it was "Messiah" before the coming of the Messiah. The New Testament was Hebrew (Judeo) because it was Messiah after the coming of the Messiah.

You can't separate the Messiah from the Messiah. But that is what modern-day Judaism tries to do by not accepting Jesus as the Christ. This is why we have the "Judeo" part - Christianity of the O.T. - operated by the Jews. Christianity of the N.T. is simply the same Messiah operated by people other than the Jews.

You can't split the Messiah/Christ up.

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ANY person going through any place of teaching in preparation to minister unto “GOD’S lambs” SHOULD KNOW THESE THINGS:

JUDEO-CHRISTIANITY
Controlled meaning: The religion of Jesus which branched out of Judaism at the time of the early church. Both Christianity and Judaism have the same origins and the same God.

True meaning: A religion created for the purpose of destroying Christianity by watering down Christian ideals and neutralizing Christians. Also, designed to promote and protect Jews and Judaism in the Zionist sense of the definition of those misused and created terms.

As for the teachings of Jesus, they come down to us only through his students:
He commissioned them to preach the good news of the Reign (influence) of Christ (ideal type of humanity through right actions, thoughts and deeds). That does not say Jesus or Yeahoo--it says: preach the good news of the influence of the teacher giving forth the ideal type of instructions to humanity!

Both groups are operating such a Messiah by deception; that is why you are talking about certain people "operating" a "Messiah"!
 organized religion is anything but decentralized faith in the prophet's message. It is a means of spiritual and material control.

Churches are man-made organizations that are, in most cases, creations of the “State” laws of incorporation or non-taxable organizations. By following the State rules the President or minister or whoever falls under the official laws of the State and ceases to follow the total instructions of Jesus Christ or God Divine.

The question we need to ask, is whether Americans today are living under a Jewish jurisdiction? I believe the evidence shows that we are. The great majority of judges and lawyers in our justice system are Jews, and this makes it extremely difficult for Christians to obtain justice if they come before a Jew controlled court. The Anti-Defamation League, of the Jewish B'nai B'rith, an entity of a foreign government, is operating illegally in our system, and has for all intents and purposes become a part of our Justice System.

The NOAHIDE LAWS call for an establishment of Jew run courts to try non-Jews--since Jews are exempt from these Noahide laws.

This means that Jews are exempt from blasphemy, murder of a non-Jew (even a fetus in a Jew run and owned aboratorium), in fact all Noahide laws.

While these laws on the surface appear to be moral, it is a matter of JEWISH interpretation. To the Jew, a Christian or other becomes an idolater if he wears the symbol of the cross. The Noahide sentence? Decapitation! To the Jews, a Christian becomes a blasphemer if he equates Jesus as being God. The sentence? Decapitation! The TALMUD, in Abodah Zoray, (78) goes so far as to declare that all Christian churches are places of idolatry. The Noahide sentence? Decapitation! This possibly explains Rev. 20:4, where John speaks about the "souls of those who were beheaded for their witness to Jesus and the Word of God." You Judeo-Christians who are supporting the anti-Christ's of Judaism as God's Chosen had better wake up to this fact before you become victims of those you seek to aid! For this is the direction the Christian world is heading, if we come under Jewish control.

Please wake up; you can read more details here and in other journals: http://phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/j029/

Christian churches might be man made, but God operates through them. You apparently don't understand the magnitude of the power of God.

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During Jesus‟ mortal experience he directed his Apostles to establish ecclesias, not churches, among the Israelite people (israel: a people chosen by God and this does not mean even Judean nor Palestinian. It is a description, not the name of a state.) He commissioned them to preach the good news of the Reign (influence) of Christ (ideal type of humanity through right actions, thoughts and deeds).

However, the greatest message that the Christian churches taught is this one, from Acts 4:1-4:
"... the apostles were teaching the people and proclaiming in Jesus the resurrection of the dead." This is the most important message of the whole Bible. The resurrection will be for all people. Those who accept Jesus will rise to heavenly glory with God forever. Those who reject Jesus will rise to everlasting destruction. Those who don't know about Jesus... God will judge in all righteousness.

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What? Is a two-day weekend not good enough for you? :D

A good Christian will worship everyday, even if it isn't always formal worship.

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This is a somewhat odd attack on Judaism. Defending Judaism is not really my fight but the Noahide laws are probably one the more reasonable doctrines of faith I have seen.
The Jews unlike many religions do not believe you need to be a Jew to be considered a righteous person who is guaranteed a place in the world to come. They believe any individual who follows the seven laws of Noah are guaranteed such a place.

The seven Noachide laws, as traditionally enumerated are:

Do Not Deny God
Do Not Blaspheme God
Do Not Murder
Do Not Engage in Incestuous, Adulterous or Homosexual Relationships.
Do Not Steal
Do Not Eat of a Live Animal
Establish Courts/Legal System to Ensure Law Obedience

Everything is a matter of interpretation be is Jewish, Christian, or Muslim.  
Erroneous early Christian beliefs that saving a soul justified any action in the here and now was likely responsible for Pope Innocent IV papal bull entitled Ad extirpanda, which authorized the use of torture by inquisitors. It probably also played a large role in the justification used by those burning heretics at the stake. Similar mistakes in the name of Islam go on to this day. Humanity has been given an amazing ethical road map in the form of the Bible and ethical monotheism but no words of any kind will dissuade the fanatic intent on violence and death.

Mwahahah... You are gonna meet Constantine, and see the chosen one, no one can say if it's by God, who knows, but by Rome for sure...

I loved to read you. This how a free human being sound like. I think it's only a fair assessment of the situation in the USA now and since a little bit of time. This take over is of the most interest in China... People LIBERATION Army...


Abodah zarah 36b... You know... No individual or groups would have been allowed to speak like this about the mother of Constantine...

So all in all thanks you for comment. Only possible on a free speech based forum not controlled by Zog operators.

and to finally add this mental control goes as far as the former chief of the DIA making his organization a weak intelligence service. I know there are attempt by the fifth column to take over the Russian complex, however in China I don't worry much from chance of success by the round eyes agents, what ever their beliefs ;-)


Very close to Taoist, Confucianist and Buddhist ideals ;-)

America founded on Judeo or Christian values? No, it was not. The Native Americans were killed ("You shall not kill"), property stolen ("You shall not steal"), presidents lie ("You shall not lie"). 

Did Christians and Jews have a large influence in the US? Yes, many in the population are religious.

People are people. Teachings for this life are similar. Much of the "stuff" listed above for Jews, parallels what is written in Islam. Here's the Judeo-Christian difference.

The Messiah.

The Messiah, Jesus, took the punishment from God, onto Himself, for all people, for the things they did incorrectly, for their imperfection, and for their wrong attitudes.

Having done this, God made Jesus to be ruler over the entire universe.

Jesus offers salvation in the coming resurrection. This salvation is eternal life in joy and perfection with God. Those who reject Jesus salvation will be destroyed with an everlasting destruction.

No other religion has the perfection requirement that is upheld by a Jesus-type-sacrifice to God. Because of this, the other religions fail... except, maybe, in superficial ways.

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EDIT: The fundamental difference between Jews and Christians in their religion is, the Jews do not believe Jesus is the Messiah, and reject all the writings about Him. Notice, I said "is the Messiah." Jesus arose from death on the 3rd day after He died. He ascended into Heave 40 days later. He is alive, now, regulating the earth and universe as God Almighty along with the Father and Holy Spirit.

I agree, our history books is twisted with things that Columbus did. The truth is most native american died in an atrocity that haven't been published in any of our school books when they try to get the property that they really own.

The pseudo-Judeo-Christians root of Europe and the Western world comes from May 68 and dumb people. That's pure bullshit.

For their defense the original invadors were fleeing persecution in Europe and else where...

Red lives matter!!!


Could you please tell us more about your theory, please? I am not aware of what you refer to... :(

There is no relation to this of "light pillars" or "sun dogs."

The phrase "Judeo-Christian" has specific meaning.  In western writing and discussion it refers more to culture than to religion per se.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judeo-Christian

Note that for historical reasons it does not include Islam.

Interesting thanks for sharing your opinion!

You have to be from France to understand. In May 1968, there was a kind of rebellion for "social rights". From this protestation, emerged a whole generation of leftist intellectuals. Those are the one that invented the idea of the Judeo-Christians root of France for exemple.

Okay... But you know it's impossible to be leftist and intellectual... Leftism is the syndrome of a mental deficiency ;-).

What do you think was the goal of those leftist to frame it like that?

Those same people say the inverse : they say that being an intellectual means that you are leftist. This frame surely come from the fact that a lot of them are Jew too and want to be part of the Western world (cf. Dianel Cohn-Bendit : Jewish, leftist, ecologist...).