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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: SgtSpike on March 22, 2013, 06:36:53 AM



Title: [SCAMMER] Teo Victor AKA ZeroSaw
Post by: SgtSpike on March 22, 2013, 06:36:53 AM
Met with my first scammer on the Minecraft Bitcoin payout... turns out, Teo had signed up for several forum accounts to gather Bitcoin payouts from several players that were not him.  He's been caught scamming by attempting to receive payouts on the activity generated by other players on the server!  I have now safeguarded against this by requiring the forum name to match the in-game name in order to receive payouts.

Full information below.  I assume he has a user account on bitcointalk, but I wasn't able to find any users via searching his email address or username.  Moderators, can you search via IP address to find out if he has an account here, and what username it might be?

Teo's known addresses:
1ETkDsycUR7im8PVPoDY5qPqCojhg9Qr7R
18yhs29PeTMYpmg4s9BXn5b7jzxfkwPQ3M
18vPxYjXCV46NMGDdyLA23zBRZ63jADR96
15LRvvVyFWwNPK2fLQXhDTQwSbbSRFLSgs
1P1ee56QqX1CYB5ddsot5Ne82LHycBkgUj
1ETKfxbwfMhUC8g3FmMtscRQgDDA7Pjj85
1FzW22RbNjH6P6M4e4jxDhzTVgBDoGmZVe
12m14dpr4yQu1Ln8fEKdMqD8HqYWEBbtZN
1JsAD4QLgB8ZUWyVcpfuCAzNAJpWBG9HUJ
1DpuVUW2nWLbXDzb3myrnWR31mFjwRpMEr
1P1ee56QqX1CYB5ddsot5Ne82LHycBkgUj
1Luicmwp1SqLtAbzK5ZRDga6Ykf2CjqfBM
15LRvvVyFWwNPK2fLQXhDTQwSbbSRFLSgs
16yGqKxQzXwsadH5MBxvXMymprXjCActJW
1LKcS7CpPPg21YdozGKn9Y8bnfxWrayGQC
1DFM5xaTehKir9rFDSZGdrUj8fnEjoUxAn
1Mwj23eJybyC678mNMUiVxkrFsXhDL7jVT
13Kebokvxh3dwCNDDnkJtWF6RynfErM3EQ
1rAUTG99aMaSSkULZ9YHCu8VGJd8obJq5

Other MinecraftCC usernames he used:
ZeroSaw
thwomp
lov3min3
CatWithHands
fallingdown123
calok47
stevie3838

Other IP addresses:
199.229.232.42
217.147.94.149
134.255.247.88
184.154.116.156
220.255.*.* (various)

Email:
zerosaw@hotmail.com

Name/address:
Teo Victor
Bedok Reservoir Rd Blk 108 #11-308
Singapore 470108


Title: Re: [SCAMMER] Teo Victor AKA ZeroSaw
Post by: John (John K.) on March 22, 2013, 06:40:19 AM
Moderators cannot check IP's unfortunately, although we would like to do so. You'll have to contact theymos on that. How did you get his address?  :o


Title: Re: [SCAMMER] Teo Victor AKA ZeroSaw
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on March 22, 2013, 07:01:57 AM
How much did he scam?


Title: Re: [SCAMMER] Teo Victor AKA ZeroSaw
Post by: SgtSpike on March 22, 2013, 07:08:36 AM
Moderators cannot check IP's unfortunately, although we would like to do so. You'll have to contact theymos on that. How did you get his address?  :o

I'll contact theymos and ask if he is willing to look in to this.

Found a blog, evidently by him (ZeroSaw + Victor):  http://0saw.blogspot.com/
I'd like to know what BNSS is, so I can let them know he's a scumbag and a thief.
Quote
Collect Cert!
I just received the letter that was provided by myself from BNSS! I need da collect my cert but this is my last week working so i wanna work all day leh. Siens. See how ba

Evidently, he's pretty big into League of Legends: http://www.lolbase.net/eu/ZeroSaw

And WoW: http://www.wowprogress.com/character/eu/onyxia/Zerosaw/build_change

Date of birth:  December 10

He has a buy order in at BC Changer:  http://bcchanger.com/order/2662
Interestingly, BC Changer lists most of his IP:  115.66.58.xxx
Doesn't match any of the IP's I have on record though.  The 220.255.XXX.XXX appeared to be a proxy of some sort, and that was the IP he always used to log into the forum.

Although, I had forgotten to gather IPs from when he connected to the gameserver itself:
152.226.228.77
152.226.232.79
115.66.58.71
152.226.233.14
152.226.226.93
152.226.232.180
152.226.228.35
152.226.226.63
152.226.226.104
115.66.58.99
115.66.252.20
111.65.28.8

Another blog!  Did he forget the password of this one or something?  http://zerosawv.blogspot.com/

Last note:  He is a compulsive gambler.  Seems like every single bitpenny he earned went to either SatoshiDice or BitMillions.


Title: Re: [SCAMMER] Teo Victor AKA ZeroSaw
Post by: SgtSpike on March 22, 2013, 07:09:45 AM
How much did he scam?
About 0.91 BTC.  Not much (though with the recent price rise...!), but still a scam he was hiding and milking for all he could.  I'm certainly not going to let him get away with anything but a scumbag title for it.


Title: Re: [SCAMMER] Teo Victor AKA ZeroSaw
Post by: madmadmax on March 22, 2013, 07:50:43 AM
How much did he scam?
About 0.91 BTC.  Not much (though with the recent price rise...!), but still a scam he was hiding and milking for all he could.  I'm certainly not going to let him get away with anything but a scumbag title for it.

In the distant future we shalt have BTC police hunt down such scum and let them fight in the Satoshi colosseum to their death for the entertainment of the higher class.


Title: Re: [SCAMMER] Teo Victor AKA ZeroSaw
Post by: SgtSpike on March 22, 2013, 04:35:42 PM
How much did he scam?
About 0.91 BTC.  Not much (though with the recent price rise...!), but still a scam he was hiding and milking for all he could.  I'm certainly not going to let him get away with anything but a scumbag title for it.

In the distant future we shalt have BTC police hunt down such scum and let them fight in the Satoshi colosseum to their death for the entertainment of the higher class.
Seems legit.

So theymos says many people have used these IPs - very likely tor nodes then?  Anyway, the IP route is bunk, nothing to be gained there.  Is anyone particularly skilled with tracking Bitcoin addresses?  Perhaps the addresses I listed could be connected to some publicly posted Bitcoin address?  My goal is to ensure whoever it is on bitcointalk gets their account marked as a scammer as well.


Title: Re: [SCAMMER] Teo Victor AKA ZeroSaw
Post by: MPOE-PR on March 23, 2013, 01:40:28 AM
Perhaps the addresses I listed could be connected to some publicly posted Bitcoin address?  My goal is to ensure whoever it is on bitcointalk gets their account marked as a scammer as well.

Or perhaps the twin realization that

a. 0.x Bitcoin aren't worth all this commotion in any possible alternate universe;
b. every freebie offer on the Internet since at least 1991 had people trying to leech it, that's the nature of freebie offers,

may be arrived at somehow.

Seriously, why all the drama? Never did freebies before, never had money before, what is it?


Title: Re: [SCAMMER] Teo Victor AKA ZeroSaw
Post by: SgtSpike on March 23, 2013, 05:37:21 AM
Perhaps the addresses I listed could be connected to some publicly posted Bitcoin address?  My goal is to ensure whoever it is on bitcointalk gets their account marked as a scammer as well.

Or perhaps the twin realization that

a. 0.x Bitcoin aren't worth all this commotion in any possible alternate universe;
b. every freebie offer on the Internet since at least 1991 had people trying to leech it, that's the nature of freebie offers,

may be arrived at somehow.

Seriously, why all the drama? Never did freebies before, never had money before, what is it?
I don't like scumbags who steal from other people, no matter how small.  He lied, cheated, and did everything he could to cover up his fraud.  Why should I wait until he commits it on a larger scale to let everyone know about it?


Title: Re: [SCAMMER] Teo Victor AKA ZeroSaw
Post by: MPOE-PR on March 23, 2013, 09:23:11 AM
I don't like scumbags who steal from other people, no matter how small.  He lied, cheated, and did everything he could to cover up his fraud.  Why should I wait until he commits it on a larger scale to let everyone know about it?

That's also a point.


Title: Re: [SCAMMER] Teo Victor AKA ZeroSaw
Post by: SgtSpike on April 05, 2013, 08:03:41 PM
Just FYI, the scumbag is still a scumbag.  I had a lengthy email conversation with him after starting this thread, all throughout which he argued about what portion he should be able to keep, and what portion he should send back, etc.  I agreed that he keep the portion that he legitimately gained, but told him that that only amounted to 0.18 BTC.  He said that it was more like 0.60 BTC.  I told him he gained that difference through exploiting the system via botting.  He said I didn't have proof.  I showed him proof (of him "gathering" the same block from the same place over and over).  He said it wasn't botting.  I said it doesn't matter - it was still an exploit and abuse of the system.  He still argued that it wasn't botting, and demanded that I explain how it was botting.

After two dozen emails, I told him I was done arguing, and to send back the full amount less the 0.18 BTC that he legitimately earned.  He went silent again.

Basically, he acts like a 12 year old child screaming "THAT'S NOT FAIR" when his parents send him to his room for doing something wrong.  He refuses to return the amount of BTC that he stole from me, despite fully admitting that he did it (and even having the gonads to demand a reward for the theft!).  I have reimbursed the users whose payouts he sniped.  I have implemented some better security measures on the program (forum username has to match in-game name now, and not paying out for a modification in the same x,y,z location more than once).  And I hope this thread stands testament to his douchebaggery forever.