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Title: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: bitcoin110011 on July 29, 2016, 07:46:12 AM all the bitcoin hyips are out there and people are afraid to invest in them because " its too good to be true" ?
Well let me share with you that i have made alot of money on these hyips because you need to know when to come into them. Let me give you an example with hashocean , they operated for a long time . I made alot of money with them because i was there in the beginning i deposited a bitcoin over a year ago there , and everyday i would get 0.02btc for over a year thats about 7 bitcoins . I always new they were a gamble but lets face it everyone knows . Its just about getting in at the right time. Once i made my initail bitcoin back everything afterwards was just pure profit. I never reinvested because i did not know how long it would last . Most good sites last quite awhile especially the ones that have advertining as well on there sites. I found a new one that came out a few days ago and has paid our everything so far . Is it a risk ? for sure , but there are good odds of it making you money because its so new . see the top banner on my website for the details on it . www.btcjack.com Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: maxhor on July 29, 2016, 08:05:18 AM Maybe you are joining the HYIP sites with risk free offer to promote them on your website which is more like monitoring site, when someone playing risk free than HYIP is very attractive for him just to drive some traffic towards that program, but I'm pretty sure HYIP sites are much risky than gambling as I had lost so much even into brand new programs, so that I'll avoid this.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: jacee on July 29, 2016, 08:07:40 AM Yes they are but compared to a gambling game such as casino or dice, the provability of getting your money back is way too low on HYIPS and also they don't operate fairly. Both are just similar in a way that they both have a risk of loosing someones money.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: Avirunes on July 29, 2016, 08:12:32 AM Ohk what I conclude here is that you know the time when to go in and go quit in HYIPs but most of the guys don't. We all know the true faces of HYIPs. For the well-being of your site users, I recommend you to put out the banner of ponzis. Ponzis always take money and plays with the money. Some of them run right away.
At one time I was also profited but watching back other users losing their money made me against them. I seriosuly didn't expected from grear poker tourney giveaway site. And seriously you have a site and you should think about your users also. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: aranachristianjay on July 29, 2016, 08:18:39 AM all the bitcoin hyips are out there and people are afraid to invest in them because " its too good to be true" ? Well let me share with you that i have made alot of money on these hyips because you need to know when to come into them. Let me give you an example with hashocean , they operated for a long time . I made alot of money with them because i was there in the beginning i deposited a bitcoin over a year ago there , and everyday i would get 0.02btc for over a year thats about 7 bitcoins . I always new they were a gamble but lets face it everyone knows . Its just about getting in at the right time. Once i made my initail bitcoin back everything afterwards was just pure profit. I never reinvested because i did not know how long it would last . Most good sites last quite awhile especially the ones that have advertining as well on there sites. I found a new one that came out a few days ago and has paid our everything so far . Is it a risk ? for sure , but there are good odds of it making you money because its so new . see the top banner on my website for the details on it . www.btcjack.com They can't be considered as gambling, But HYIP do have the same risk or much more in comparison to gambling, If you do know when to join and when to quit then HYIP is good for you, but if you continuously invested into it then you will be a victim of scam later on. While in gambling, You put your money at stake knowing that you have a 50% chance of winning or losing. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: krishna1 on July 29, 2016, 08:20:44 AM Bro I suggest you that instead of investing in Hyips sites you can Promote These Hyip Websites to Earn Referral Commission. This way you are not taking Risk and also you are Earning Money.....
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: rio3233 on July 29, 2016, 08:21:47 AM all the bitcoin hyips are out there and people are afraid to invest in them because " its too good to be true" ? Well let me share with you that i have made alot of money on these hyips because you need to know when to come into them. Let me give you an example with hashocean , they operated for a long time . I made alot of money with them because i was there in the beginning i deposited a bitcoin over a year ago there , and everyday i would get 0.02btc for over a year thats about 7 bitcoins . I always new they were a gamble but lets face it everyone knows . Its just about getting in at the right time. Once i made my initail bitcoin back everything afterwards was just pure profit. I never reinvested because i did not know how long it would last . Most good sites last quite awhile especially the ones that have advertining as well on there sites. I found a new one that came out a few days ago and has paid our everything so far . Is it a risk ? for sure , but there are good odds of it making you money because its so new . see the top banner on my website for the details on it . www.btcjack.com They can't be considered as gambling, But HYIP do have the same risk or much more in comparison to gambling, If you do know when to join and when to quit then HYIP is good for you, but if you continuously invested into it then you will be a victim of scam later on. While in gambling, You put your money at stake knowing that you have a 50% chance of winning or losing. I think it's about gambling too. Because we risky our money into HYIP and gamble is the HYIP will scam fastly or we can still withdrawal our money. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: lumeire on July 29, 2016, 08:22:14 AM In the end you're just trying to pull more people in. Actually I don't mind because where people put their own money is due to their own diligence. The thing I really hate is how it puts much strain on bitcoin's reputation on the general public.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: newcripto on July 29, 2016, 08:33:09 AM They can't be considered as gambling, But HYIP do have the same risk or much more in comparison to gambling, If you do know when to join and when to quit then HYIP is good for you, but if you continuously invested into it then you will be a victim of scam later on. While in gambling, You put your money at stake knowing that you have a 50% chance of winning or losing. To be honest it is not possible for anybody when to take withdraw from hyip site. From my opinion is more risky than gambling because investing into hyip we have no control over our money. But gambling on trusted casino we have some great chance to get paid in case of winning. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: FrueGreads on July 29, 2016, 08:47:30 AM I don't know. I mean I tried a few hyip myself and some paid but most of them didn't so I ended up with a loss overall and I stopped.
I was following a forum that would make reports on them etc, but even with that it did not help. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: jakelyson on July 29, 2016, 08:55:12 AM Even if you said that you made profit from hyip, I will still not join any. It is hard to earn money. And it will be harder for me if I lose them on some hyip that I knew will be a scam but invested anyway because someone on the internet said you can still profit if you know when to get out. I am more comfortable investing on platforms that I know will never be a scam and are also making profits. We should be wise on where to put our hard earned money.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: Nahl on July 29, 2016, 09:03:15 AM you were just lucky here because you was there into the beginning of those sites and got some profit before hashocean scam but i think not all people has lucky such as you because most of them at there in the end of sites and they are losing their money before ROI and for me i have no compromise with all those kind of HYIP and will considers as scam and i would stay away from them and also i will give a warning to my friends and my families to stay away from them too
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: bajing on July 29, 2016, 09:04:55 AM To compare in terms of revenue would be very different but for the potential of lost is the same, of course you already know which is much better "gambling or hyip".
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: michietn94 on July 29, 2016, 09:08:07 AM When I lose on gambling, I can't figure it out why am I losing
But the story will be different if you loss on HYIP, since they can made you profit easily rather than gambling ( without any effort ) yet they also can make you loss without any reason ! Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: shadobitz on July 29, 2016, 09:11:54 AM When I lose on gambling, I can't figure it out why am I losing But the story will be different if you loss on HYIP, since they can made you profit easily rather than gambling ( without any effort ) yet they also can make you loss without any reason ! And they can run with your easily at any time, what the reason you can say this hyip can make profit for us, even hyip sites has no source of income and they run their business just on promises to make dream other people, hyip and gambling are very similar because people will lose their money in the end. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: tiggytomb on July 29, 2016, 09:22:53 AM These sites are extremely risky, especially for those new to bitcoin as they will see the profit and might think that it is legit.
If you do make your bitcoin back and then everything else is profit then you are one of the lucky ones, the majority of people will lose on these sites as you just cannot predict when they will stop operating. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: eternalgloom on July 29, 2016, 09:23:11 AM HYIP's are not the same as gambling, they're Ponzi schemes, and I would consider it highly unethical to join them since you're basically screwing over the people who invest after you.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: csnorthchina on July 29, 2016, 09:24:19 AM I count HYIP as a scam, never heard any good feedback about HYIP...
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: olubams on July 29, 2016, 09:51:31 AM all the bitcoin hyips are out there and people are afraid to invest in them because " its too good to be true" ? Well let me share with you that i have made alot of money on these hyips because you need to know when to come into them. Let me give you an example with hashocean , they operated for a long time . I made alot of money with them because i was there in the beginning i deposited a bitcoin over a year ago there , and everyday i would get 0.02btc for over a year thats about 7 bitcoins . I always new they were a gamble but lets face it everyone knows . Its just about getting in at the right time. Once i made my initail bitcoin back everything afterwards was just pure profit. I never reinvested because i did not know how long it would last . Most good sites last quite awhile especially the ones that have advertining as well on there sites. I found a new one that came out a few days ago and has paid our everything so far . Is it a risk ? for sure , but there are good odds of it making you money because its so new . see the top banner on my website for the details on it . www.btcjack.com They can't be considered as gambling, But HYIP do have the same risk or much more in comparison to gambling, If you do know when to join and when to quit then HYIP is good for you, but if you continuously invested into it then you will be a victim of scam later on. While in gambling, You put your money at stake knowing that you have a 50% chance of winning or losing. I think it's about gambling too. Because we risky our money into HYIP and gamble is the HYIP will scam fastly or we can still withdrawal our money. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: lionheart78 on July 29, 2016, 09:53:11 AM Again let us define gamble
Code: gam·ble Basically investing on HYIP falls under the number two category of the verb meaning of gamble. You invest in HYIP so you can get 2x 3x your investment in just a matter of short period of time. The problem with this kind of method is that those who joined in late will have a huge potential to be scammed. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: SAMKUSH on July 29, 2016, 10:00:53 AM If you have alot to invest I can see how it can make you alot of money. I think where people go wrong is they invest everything all at once so if it goes wrong they cany find another site to invest on. I wouldn't recommend it to people who don't know what they're doing but I can see how it would work.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: Labumi on July 29, 2016, 10:04:56 AM If you have alot to invest I can see how it can make you alot of money. I think where people go wrong is they invest everything all at once so if it goes wrong they cany find another site to invest on. I wouldn't recommend it to people who don't know what they're doing but I can see how it would work. Hmmzz, indeed the way you is very profitable and it's easier in use than any other way, but it is certainly very dangerous for those who only know or learn some science you have to say. Because these Sciences rely on virtue of their investing to the sites using the system a ponzi or hype Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: isen on July 29, 2016, 10:11:53 AM Ok there is a small chance to make money with a hyip if you have referrals and earn commissions or if the owners are not greedy and the site lasts long before it eventually collapses.
But even if you end in profit how do you feel that these money are coming from newer member's deposits who never got their seed money back?I know that many of them are aware of the risk but there are also newbies who think that they invest in a real product. And no hyip is not a gamble.. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: JITENDERPAR3 on July 29, 2016, 10:14:42 AM i think all these types of things are usually gamble like things.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: fulgdenea on July 29, 2016, 10:20:04 AM Of course HYIP are the gambling, even make any investment in HYIP program is more risky than to play on online gambling site, basically all HYIP sites are ponzi scam and they need new investors to pay the old ones, if people don't trust on them than it can close their business very quickly.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: xuan87 on July 29, 2016, 11:48:28 AM I think HYIP is still categorized as gambling, investing in HYIP is risking your money with huge ROI, its not recommended to join HYIP, I have lost some money because of tempted with high profit, but in the end all of HYIP is a scam, even a brand new HYIP is potential to be a scam, ponzi and HYIP is the two things that you need to avoid
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: iv4n on July 29, 2016, 02:20:16 PM They are gamble, and you are one of the lucky ones who made some money, many other just lost everything. I also think that hyip investment is gambling, just that hous have a huge advantage in this case. If they take as much as they planned they will run away much faster then usual.
I don't think people shoud gamble with hyip and ponzi schemes, in that way you jist encourage them to scam even more people. You are the one with profit, next 10 people lost a lot of money, basically you are earning on other people misery. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: Hide_ip112 on July 29, 2016, 02:23:40 PM I think HYIP is still categorized as gambling, investing in HYIP is risking your money with huge ROI, its not recommended to join HYIP, I have lost some money because of tempted with high profit, but in the end all of HYIP is a scam, even a brand new HYIP is potential to be a scam, ponzi and HYIP is the two things that you need to avoid Yeah, I agree with your opinion. Because after analyzing deeper again about some sites or ponzi hyips, I concluded that it was indeed the site hyip or ponzi is something similar and very detrimental to us in a long period of time. I think the short term may be profitable but that last only a few payments. For they pay using money user not profit Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: mindrust on July 29, 2016, 02:33:32 PM HYIPs are worse than gambling. In gambling, you and the one who bet against you are playing the game as equals. The same rules are applied to both of you. (except the house. house has an advantage over players)
In HYIPs, it is all about stealing fast and getting away before it is too late. If you are the one who is late then you are fcked. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: Xenophoto on July 29, 2016, 02:58:12 PM While investing in HYIP sites aren't directly gambling, you're still gambling your way into profit. We don't know if the site would pay us, and if they don't, then that means we have lost all our money. If they pay, we don't know until when. We don't know if we're even going to profit. It's basically an either win-or-lose thing, so if you don't want to wait for a long time before knowing if you would make money out of HYIP site or not, you should just gamble your money. The results are the same anyway.
Apparently, this thread is just a way of OP to low-key promote his website. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: dinda22 on July 29, 2016, 03:04:26 PM I think you are lucky enough to get good results from hashocean because they last long enough, but not all HYIP will last a long time, and it is difficult to predict, how long each new site will survive. even if you say there is a chance to make a profit, I am still not interested in HYIP, this is too risky. there are still many ways better than that.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: shanem on July 29, 2016, 03:43:51 PM HYIP is even riskier than gambling. For only a few percentage gain, you have to risk your capital.
There is no way to determine when a HYIP will be closed. I would rather gamble as the odds to win is close to 50%. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: Sidas_Crew669 on July 29, 2016, 03:46:47 PM HYIP is even riskier than gambling. For only a few percentage gain, you have to risk your capital. There is no way to determine when a HYIP will be closed. I would rather gamble as the odds to win is close to 50%. very true, because the system uses the open hole hyip closed hole. And it could not be determined until when they could do such a system, which is surely all that do these things are going to get a very large losses. HYIP is worse than gambling and gambling than investing very badly and very bad investment than trading Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: Daffadile on July 29, 2016, 05:40:23 PM It's always much to good to be true and much too high return to be sustainable. Hence the name HYIP high yeild investment program. No matter how they pretty it up or what cover story they use it's simply a ponzi with nothing to offer you and no shares, there is not even a business it's all fake. You can make money off of it but you can also lose all that money plus what you made and if you keep putting money in and lose it all it can be worse then gambling, at least gambling you have a fair chance.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 29, 2016, 07:16:57 PM If you put any amount of bitcoin on anything considered a "hyip" (a bitcointalk fairy term), you are a full retard. They are all the same and all designed to fleece the tards looking to get rich quick on this forum. And hey, go for it. Despite OP's shilling, they'll lose you money but it's your (retarded) choice.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: JasonXG on July 29, 2016, 08:08:27 PM all the bitcoin hyips are out there and people are afraid to invest in them because " its too good to be true" ? Well let me share with you that i have made alot of money on these hyips because you need to know when to come into them. Let me give you an example with hashocean , they operated for a long time . I made alot of money with them because i was there in the beginning i deposited a bitcoin over a year ago there , and everyday i would get 0.02btc for over a year thats about 7 bitcoins . I always new they were a gamble but lets face it everyone knows . Its just about getting in at the right time. Once i made my initail bitcoin back everything afterwards was just pure profit. I never reinvested because i did not know how long it would last . Most good sites last quite awhile especially the ones that have advertining as well on there sites. I found a new one that came out a few days ago and has paid our everything so far . Is it a risk ? for sure , but there are good odds of it making you money because its so new . see the top banner on my website for the details on it . www.btcjack.com There is money to be made with places like HYIP and as you say you need to get in first since its a ponzi. But that cloud mining is much better then HYIPs that often don't even last a month. The longest are half a year and that is lucky. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: bithasher on July 29, 2016, 08:25:23 PM No making money through hyip sites is not equal to gambling. Gambling is also risky but all is depending on our luck to win or loose. Hyip sites works as long as money is circulating towards there accounts. In all hyip programs early investors have chance to make money while people who join later always loose money. It is more greed and stupidity to approach any hyip site because there is no result in the end but sure loss. In gambling you can win too but here is just loss.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: aranachristianjay on July 30, 2016, 06:09:55 PM all the bitcoin hyips are out there and people are afraid to invest in them because " its too good to be true" ? Well let me share with you that i have made alot of money on these hyips because you need to know when to come into them. Let me give you an example with hashocean , they operated for a long time . I made alot of money with them because i was there in the beginning i deposited a bitcoin over a year ago there , and everyday i would get 0.02btc for over a year thats about 7 bitcoins . I always new they were a gamble but lets face it everyone knows . Its just about getting in at the right time. Once i made my initail bitcoin back everything afterwards was just pure profit. I never reinvested because i did not know how long it would last . Most good sites last quite awhile especially the ones that have advertining as well on there sites. I found a new one that came out a few days ago and has paid our everything so far . Is it a risk ? for sure , but there are good odds of it making you money because its so new . see the top banner on my website for the details on it . www.btcjack.com They can't be considered as gambling, But HYIP do have the same risk or much more in comparison to gambling, If you do know when to join and when to quit then HYIP is good for you, but if you continuously invested into it then you will be a victim of scam later on. While in gambling, You put your money at stake knowing that you have a 50% chance of winning or losing. I think it's about gambling too. Because we risky our money into HYIP and gamble is the HYIP will scam fastly or we can still withdrawal our money. Can't Clearly understand what you are trying to say, But HYIP investments are far more different in gambling, You can try to look for the definition f gambling in google, and compare it to HYIP. Investing in HYIP most of the times are scam and will produce a profit if you come in and go out at the right time. in Investing you don' put money at stake at all in a percentage basis not like in gambling. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: razor5cl on August 03, 2016, 03:58:22 PM Again let us define gamble Code: gam·ble Basically investing on HYIP falls under the number two category of the verb meaning of gamble. You invest in HYIP so you can get 2x 3x your investment in just a matter of short period of time. The problem with this kind of method is that those who joined in late will have a huge potential to be scammed. I'd argue that in general there is a huge potential to be scammed, so in a way it is gambling, as you're just as or maybe even more likely to lose than to win. Just saying I don't have much experience myself with investing in HYIPs, but that's the impression I got from researching the matter. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: ~Bitcoin~ on August 03, 2016, 04:39:52 PM Bitcoin hyips or any types of hyip are just ponzi programs which can't sustain when they fail to get new fresh money into the system. Even early investor can loss all they have invested in such program without getting any return. So i say no to HYIPS/Ponzis/cloud minings.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: daringdiscovered on August 03, 2016, 04:52:10 PM Hyips are really a gamble. You don't know what will happen to your bitcoin. Even one day old hyips turns into a scam. The too good to be true offers are really ridiculous to believe for me. Let's say 5% daily forever is their offer, others are deceived by that but before you reach your ROI they already ran away. I'd rather gamble in a real gambling site where i can plan a strategy to win.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: RoommateAgreement on August 03, 2016, 04:56:47 PM all the bitcoin hyips are out there and people are afraid to invest in them because " its too good to be true" ? Well let me share with you that i have made alot of money on these hyips because you need to know when to come into them. Let me give you an example with hashocean , they operated for a long time . I made alot of money with them because i was there in the beginning i deposited a bitcoin over a year ago there , and everyday i would get 0.02btc for over a year thats about 7 bitcoins . I always new they were a gamble but lets face it everyone knows . Its just about getting in at the right time. Once i made my initail bitcoin back everything afterwards was just pure profit. I never reinvested because i did not know how long it would last . Most good sites last quite awhile especially the ones that have advertining as well on there sites. I found a new one that came out a few days ago and has paid our everything so far . Is it a risk ? for sure , but there are good odds of it making you money because its so new . *** it IS a gamble. and it IS high risk and no it has terrible odds. both HYIPS and cloudmining that you mentioned are the same risky business and has terrible odds of winning. becasue they are scams whether you like it or not they have made these websites to rob you blind. it doesn't matter if you have made profit on hashocead (if you are in fact telling the truth), it doesn't change any facts. you were lucky as in winning the jackpot. there were hashocean, blahblah-hash, blahblah-mining, and many more but the first one could fool more people so it could stay alive longer and that is something you never know when going in so you are taking a huge risk. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: Backside walkaround on August 03, 2016, 05:07:19 PM I'm sorry, I think they're all crap. I've taken a look at the securities section here and even those things are shady. The hyip stuff is basically all ponzis, and they're scams even if youre aware of what they are. It doesn't matter if OP has made money on them, he got lucky. Someone is always going to lose. And yes it's definitely gambling.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: coszy on August 03, 2016, 05:23:43 PM all the bitcoin hyips are out there and people are afraid to invest in them because " its too good to be true" ? Thanks for the detailed story. I'll try to take your information and maybe I get lucky. Until today I did not earn a lot more, but I hope that it will be soon.Well let me share with you that i have made alot of money on these hyips because you need to know when to come into them. Let me give you an example with hashocean , they operated for a long time . I made alot of money with them because i was there in the beginning i deposited a bitcoin over a year ago there , and everyday i would get 0.02btc for over a year thats about 7 bitcoins . I always new they were a gamble but lets face it everyone knows . Its just about getting in at the right time. Once i made my initail bitcoin back everything afterwards was just pure profit. I never reinvested because i did not know how long it would last . Most good sites last quite awhile especially the ones that have advertining as well on there sites. I found a new one that came out a few days ago and has paid our everything so far . Is it a risk ? for sure , but there are good odds of it making you money because its so new . see the top banner on my website for the details on it . www.btcjack.com Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: socks435 on August 03, 2016, 06:07:57 PM I think HYIP and Ponzi is not gamble infact they are already scam no return if you invest.. unlike in gambling if you gamble you ave a chance that you can win a big amount or not..
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: ethereumhunter on August 06, 2016, 06:57:09 AM i think HYIP is different than gambling site. its a kind of investment that have high risk because no one knows how long that site will online and many said that first come first profit and i think its true because when i take a look on my friends history when he play HYIP site, he tells me that every site launch for the first time, we should make big deposit and then we can get profit, just in 1 cycle, don't make any deposite after 1 cycle is done otherwise you will lost all your money.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: numanoid on August 06, 2016, 07:02:05 AM HYIP and Ponzi are just sh*t and scam sites, they are very different with gambling. You'll lose your money once you sent your money in those site. Stay away from them, (for reference, look at investor-based games)
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: Xanidas on August 06, 2016, 07:07:30 AM hyip and gambling are different in terms of safety, in gambling you control your own money with betting, you can instantly win and instantly lose while on HYIP it is purely in control of the site owner, they could run as soon as your deposit arrives
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: Shinpako09 on August 06, 2016, 07:16:55 AM Yes it is but its different kind of gambling. Joining hyip is more likely slow gambling imo. You will wait for how many days, weeks, or even months to know the result, wether you make profit or not. I havent tried joining hyip yet but I agree that there are people making a profit from those scam site by joining earlier.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: Caladonian on August 06, 2016, 07:25:15 AM hyip and gambling are different in terms of safety, in gambling you control your own money with betting, you can instantly win and instantly lose while on HYIP it is purely in control of the site owner, they could run as soon as your deposit arrives and you can't do nothing when hyip scam you unlike with gambling you can ask if what happen to your bet and you can control it.better to stay away with hyip if you really want to gamble play with a reputable gambling site instead. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: crytoboost on August 06, 2016, 07:53:35 AM Yes it is but its different kind of gambling. Joining hyip is more likely slow gambling imo. You will wait for how many days, weeks, or even months to know the result, wether you make profit or not. I havent tried joining hyip yet but I agree that there are people making a profit from those scam site by joining earlier. HYIP is worse form of gambling and it's more risky than normal gambling, because online gambling casinos are more trustworthy and we can keep hope to take withdraw in case if we won big amount there, but on hyip sites we don't know what is going behind the scene and when they will run with our money. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: electronicfactura on August 06, 2016, 07:57:59 AM Hyip is not gambling in my opinion it is a form of ponzi schemes at least I see them this way. Hyip programs work exact how ponzi does. You invest money to gain some profit which most of the people reinvest to reach to cash out or make more in hyip but many end being scammed and ponzi directly double your money. This is not gamble hyip is greed with high risks of loosing.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: zend7 on August 06, 2016, 08:20:54 AM HYIP is a gamble. If you join the first day a HYIP came out chances are good that you will get back your investment and little to big profit depending on the longevity of the site. If you join late, chances are good that you will not get your investment back and lose your money.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: tabas on August 06, 2016, 08:34:35 AM Yes it is but its different kind of gambling. Joining hyip is more likely slow gambling imo. You will wait for how many days, weeks, or even months to know the result, wether you make profit or not. I havent tried joining hyip yet but I agree that there are people making a profit from those scam site by joining earlier. HYIP is worse form of gambling and it's more risky than normal gambling, because online gambling casinos are more trustworthy and we can keep hope to take withdraw in case if we won big amount there, but on hyip sites we don't know what is going behind the scene and when they will run with our money. We have the same thinking that hyip are the worst form of gambling and there you are not allowed to return your capital once the site is going to run. But in a normal gambling game you have the chance to return the amount that you have lose to them. But anyway, they are both risky at all. Just afford to invest what you afford to lose. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: futurebit640 on August 06, 2016, 08:59:21 AM HYIP is a gamble. If you join the first day a HYIP came out chances are good that you will get back your investment and little to big profit depending on the longevity of the site. If you join late, chances are good that you will not get your investment back and lose your money. I think recently there are some sites they closed just after a couple of days so whether you join on the first day or later still people are losing money from these sites. Gambling is fun and we need the luck to win money but these sites are entirely meant for cheating, and they are 100% SCAM sites. Both are different. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: buddu on August 06, 2016, 09:36:30 AM Hyip and gambling are totally different things in every way. gambling where your own decision decides whether you will win or loose but site doesn't take your money. Hyip where early birds make some money if site remains up and has some feed back and turnover other wise even early birds can not succeed to take worms. Hyip is totally wastage of time and money better donate your money to some charity instead of putting in Hyip.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: marioantonini on August 06, 2016, 09:40:58 AM in gambling like dice site, you have the provably fair, only lucky determine your winning, in hyip is only the owner to close the site and start scam. I really don't understand why more people use hyip system, not is better gamgbling?
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: Fatanut on August 06, 2016, 10:58:53 AM Basically, yes, HYIP sites are a gamble. Bitcoin HYIP might not be directly seen as gambling, but since you're taking risks, and the results aren't always positive profit, HYIP shall be considered as gambling. Investing is almost as if you're betting. You put the money and then wait for the results. A factor why people thinks HYIP aren't similar to gambling is because of the fact that it will take you months/weeks before you know the result. In gambling you only have to wait for seconds.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: Ryan Dugan on August 06, 2016, 10:29:12 PM all the bitcoin hyips are out there and people are afraid to invest in them because " its too good to be true" ? Well let me share with you that i have made alot of money on these hyips because you need to know when to come into them. Let me give you an example with hashocean , they operated for a long time . I made alot of money with them because i was there in the beginning i deposited a bitcoin over a year ago there , and everyday i would get 0.02btc for over a year thats about 7 bitcoins . I always new they were a gamble but lets face it everyone knows . Its just about getting in at the right time. Once i made my initail bitcoin back everything afterwards was just pure profit. I never reinvested because i did not know how long it would last . Most good sites last quite awhile especially the ones that have advertining as well on there sites. I found a new one that came out a few days ago and has paid our everything so far . Is it a risk ? for sure , but there are good odds of it making you money because its so new . see the top banner on my website for the details on it . F F www.btcjack.com I had used minutebtc and had in there 0.01 and I added for compounding to 0.13 btc . the total it worked is 2 months a bit less then it was 2.4% in a day so it was over double so I made 0.08 and left a little bit in there and then it went scam I could not draw but it was a little so I made. Then I did bloombtc it worked the same but less as long and I made 0.01 to 0.016 with compounding then added a bit more to make 0.024 the next one I had 0.006 and it went to 0.009 bit I couldn't draw. I had one more with HYIP that I had only 50% so I lost half. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: CroSany on August 06, 2016, 10:57:23 PM I am interested if i fould hyip which is paying 200% in 4 hours if i depo in 0 running day do i will have enought time to withdraaal my money or nof and is there any hyip strategy?
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: Arcteryx on August 06, 2016, 11:05:00 PM They watch when the big investor come in then at that time they stop all interest payments to the smaller ones and then quickly close their site down to not lose too much from those interest payments. This is how they work. They wait until people are a bit more comfortable with using them then once a big investor deposits they run for the hills with a big profit.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: CroSany on August 06, 2016, 11:07:32 PM Arcteryx and do you know maybe some average in days how much is hyip living average in sites with roi like 200% in 4 hours or 200% in one day?
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: airsounds on August 06, 2016, 11:26:51 PM They watch when the big investor come in then at that time they stop all interest payments to the smaller ones and then quickly close their site down to not lose too much from those interest payments. This is how they work. They wait until people are a bit more comfortable with using them then once a big investor deposits they run for the hills with a big profit. thats true, hyips are created purely to steal people money, if i were you i would definitely not invest my bitcoins into it because you would definitely lose your money as it would stop paying fastTitle: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: Ryan Dugan on August 07, 2016, 02:10:39 AM Some can make a profit if you enter in the start and the program picks up and is popular. If not it shuts down early and all is lost for all. So it is a gamble you take to see of the site will last long enough for you to make profits.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: fullypak on August 07, 2016, 02:40:24 AM Some can make a profit if you enter in the start and the program picks up and is popular. If not it shuts down early and all is lost for all. So it is a gamble you take to see of the site will last long enough for you to make profits. I don't think we can compare these investments with gambling because these are meant for scamming people so I don't call them gambling. There are many sites they closed after the first day itself so no need to rush to invest on the first day and hope for the profits from these sites. In gambling, you will at least enjoy the game but investing on these sites only lose so both of them are not same. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: BTCLovingDude on August 07, 2016, 04:37:22 AM Some can make a profit if you enter in the start and the program picks up and is popular. If not it shuts down early and all is lost for all. So it is a gamble you take to see of the site will last long enough for you to make profits. that may be true in one or two cases because you got lucky but there is no such rule for when they are going to scam you and run away. you can be the first one to make a deposit and still don't get your money back. it is simple these sites are not honorable legit services, an scammer runs these so obviously they don't care about reputation and staying around so they can even run away in the first 24 hour before even a single payment. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: Sponsoredby15 on September 02, 2016, 01:07:47 PM In my own thoughts hyip sites are gamble too because they are risky. They will be scam soon. I mean hyip site is just a short duration of time. So dont be confident in investing a hyip site it is better to study first and make a plan in deciding to invest in a hyip.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: chixka000 on September 02, 2016, 01:12:38 PM In my own opinion this is really a way also of gambling your money but unlike gambling your faith would be on the other hand it is also somehow looks like lending your money and get it back with interest.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: eternalgloom on September 02, 2016, 01:18:44 PM In my own opinion this is really a way also of gambling your money but unlike gambling your faith would be on the other hand it is also somehow looks like lending your money and get it back with interest. I dunno, you can somewhat question the ethicallity of gambling, but there is no question that ponzis are unethical. I wouldn't even compare tham to gambling, if you partake in them, you're also helping them scam people. Plus ponzis are definitely illegal. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: chixka000 on September 02, 2016, 01:22:27 PM In my own opinion this is really a way also of gambling your money but unlike gambling your faith would be on the other hand it is also somehow looks like lending your money and get it back with interest. I dunno, you can somewhat question the ethicallity of gambling, but there is no question that ponzis are unethical. I wouldn't even compare tham to gambling, if you partake in them, you're also helping them scam people. Plus ponzis are definitely illegal. Yes sir you are right but their were also gambling sites or areas that are illegal right? same as HYIP but i think there were really no legal HYIP correct me if im wrong. Gambling for me really has no ethical value lol still just an opinion tho. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: arseaboy on September 02, 2016, 02:00:00 PM it is much better to gamble for me instead of joining hyip, because in gambling you know the possibility of losing but joining hyip especially if you are recruited by a friend or relatives it will harm that relationship if hyip turn to scam just saying because it is really possible that hyip is profitable for those who joined first without realizing and thinking about what will happen to those who joined in last.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: Piladeer on September 02, 2016, 02:35:02 PM I would consider them to be just like gambling because you are giving them your bitcoin in exchange to give you profit but they do not have to give you even the amount of bitcoin back that you have put into their programs. So essentially you are taking a risk which is gambling with your bitcoin.
Don't believe in these so called high yield programs they eventually all turn into scams sooner or later. Because why would they be into it if not too turn a profit anyways? ::) Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: shintosai on September 02, 2016, 02:42:48 PM yes it is putting your money on a big risk just like gambling you dont know which way will happen hyip itself already giving you an idea to turn to be a scam so you can't control what will happen just like betting / gambling you don't know whether you gonna win or lose, for me personally hyip should not be tolerated many lives already been ruin by this scammers.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: fulgdenea on September 02, 2016, 02:43:22 PM In my own thoughts hyip sites are gamble too because they are risky. They will be scam soon. I mean hyip site is just a short duration of time. So dont be confident in investing a hyip site it is better to study first and make a plan in deciding to invest in a hyip. But there is no guarantee even after you made good study and research before to make any investment there, hyip is very dangerous form of investment and it can scam people after day 1 of its launch, we had so many example of this kind around us. Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: btc-facebook on September 02, 2016, 02:51:12 PM I better spend my money on gambling site ( legit one ) rather than hyip since if you're loss , you can verify your loss but if you're loss on hyip , you will got nothing to prove. But as far as my experience, HYIP may give you profit only when they are still new !
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: ethereumhunter on September 02, 2016, 10:08:39 PM i think bitcoin hyip is include a gamble but different is bitcoin hyip take our money for long term, and gamble take our money in a second if we lose. bitcoin hyip is just only 1 time investment if there are really payment, don't make second investment (deposit), in gamble, there are playing games while we have a chance to win, but we often to get lose with gamble.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: Cast12 on September 03, 2016, 12:22:45 AM I think that investing into HYIP programs isn't gambling(or if it is, it's not really fair). I think this because of the fact that there is no provably fair for HYIPs. Sure it's a "game" of first one in wins therefore being a game of chance(since it is in the gambling board), but like I said, there is no provably fair, and there is no house edge. Gambling sites also have their own bankroll.
Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: BitcoinMuscle on September 03, 2016, 12:39:41 AM all the bitcoin hyips are out there and people are afraid to invest in them because " its too good to be true" ? a HYIP site is different of a gambling site, in HYIP if you choose a good site and withdraw you deposit at a good time you can make a pretty good profit, in gambling is more about being lucky , there is 2 option : you win a fixed amount of you lose everything . Well let me share with you that i have made alot of money on these hyips because you need to know when to come into them. Let me give you an example with hashocean , they operated for a long time . I made alot of money with them because i was there in the beginning i deposited a bitcoin over a year ago there , and everyday i would get 0.02btc for over a year thats about 7 bitcoins . I always new they were a gamble but lets face it everyone knows . Its just about getting in at the right time. Once i made my initail bitcoin back everything afterwards was just pure profit. I never reinvested because i did not know how long it would last . Most good sites last quite awhile especially the ones that have advertining as well on there sites. I found a new one that came out a few days ago and has paid our everything so far . Is it a risk ? for sure , but there are good odds of it making you money because its so new . see the top banner on my website for the details on it . www.btcjack.com anyway both of them have a big risk of losing money Title: Re: bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? Post by: CroSany on September 03, 2016, 11:40:05 AM Ok there is a small chance to make money with a hyip if you have referrals and earn commissions or if the owners are not greedy and the site lasts long before it eventually collapses.
But even if you end in profit how do you feel that these money are coming from newer member's deposits who never got their seed money back?I know that many of them are aware of the risk but there are also newbies who think that they invest in a real product. And no hyip is not a gamble.. |