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Bitcoin => Electrum => Topic started by: Patrick349 on July 29, 2016, 05:40:50 PM



Title: Electrum and Tails
Post by: Patrick349 on July 29, 2016, 05:40:50 PM
What about the operating system Tails and using Electrum on it?


Title: Re: Electrum and Tails
Post by: Coding Enthusiast on July 30, 2016, 02:31:18 PM
- you are connecting to the internet so NO this is not the safest option, look into offline storage for that.

- you are using TOR, i don't see how can that be increasing your security or even anonymity. the only thing using tor will give you is that the Electrum server that you connect to can not see your real IP and that is all.

- Tails is designed in a way that you can not have persistence, in other words it is designed so that you have a fresh OS each time you boot up with it so unless you are an expert and can install Electrum and make it stay don't use it.

* what do you want to achieve anyways?


Title: Re: Electrum and Tails
Post by: Cereberus on July 30, 2016, 07:27:36 PM
- you are connecting to the internet so NO this is not the safest option, look into offline storage for that.

- you are using TOR, i don't see how can that be increasing your security or even anonymity. the only thing using tor will give you is that the Electrum server that you connect to can not see your real IP and that is all.

- Tails is designed in a way that you can not have persistence, in other words it is designed so that you have a fresh OS each time you boot up with it so unless you are an expert and can install Electrum and make it stay don't use it.

* what do you want to achieve anyways?

In fact you are wrong. He can restore anytime the electrum he used at the beginning by just having the seed of the electrum wallet with him every time he uses Tails.
What he wants to achieve of course is fully anonymity of his bitcoin transactions. Bitcoin is pseudo-anonymous by default but with this little trick it can become completely anonymous.

To OP if you feel threatened by your government, police of your city or any big threat keep using this combination as they cannot do anything to you. Hope this really is not the case though and you just want to make bitcoin transactions completely anonymous.


Title: Re: Electrum and Tails
Post by: Coding Enthusiast on August 03, 2016, 02:16:36 PM
In fact you are wrong.

i didn't get which part of my comment was wrong, can you please explain?

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He can restore anytime the electrum he used at the beginning by just having the seed of the electrum wallet with him every time he uses Tails.

that is right but why not just simply use a normal linux distro with normal persistence ?

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What he wants to achieve of course is fully anonymity of his bitcoin transactions. Bitcoin is pseudo-anonymous by default but with this little trick it can become completely anonymous.

you don't reach anonymity by using TOR with bitcoin. bitcoin transactions (to my knowledge) don't store or reveal your IP address to the world. (what you see on blockchain.info is different)
bitcoin transactions can still be traced by chain analysis and if the bitcoin address is linked to the person then he and all his transactions can be found.


Title: Re: Electrum and Tails
Post by: freddie999 on August 07, 2016, 06:04:16 AM
I use the Electrum client which is embedded in Tails and it has a persistence option which is stored on the USB device with which you store the Tails OS on.

My experience using Electrum in Tails so far is a very positive one - The built in security of Tails/Tor and the rock solid Electrum client for me is the best balance of security and useability - I used to use a Trezor hardware wallet but found the constant upgrading of the firmware not to my satisfaction -  Interestingly the preferred way of using the Trezor is via Electrum, which supports Trezor.