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Basically its near impossible to get btc with paypal on this forum, are there any sites where I can exchange pp for btc? I've used paxful and lbtc before, fees and rates are so goddamn high, that's the reason I came on this forum.

PayPal can easily be reversed to you have to expect high fees if you wish to buy bitcoins with PayPal. I would keep checking paxful as sometimes there are offers for $0.8 BTC for $1 paypal. When you take into consideration the risk of the transaction this fee is not that high.

20% for a highly reversible way to pay for bitcoins is not so bad. But I would not use paxful as I have seen posts about it and the owner is around here somewhere.

I have used paxful many times before and never had a problem with it, perhaps trying something like a $5 transaction just to see of it works as expected may be a good idea for the first time. Altern, I'm sure localbitcoins have similar offers to the ones on paxful.

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Unfortunately you are not trusted enough here, and that's why people hesitate to deal with you because accepting paypal for sellers is not comfortable. You may buy gift cards or any other source of money and then exchange it to bitcoin but this is an alternative way.
Try finding someone locally near you and pay by cash.

"Basically its near impossible to get btc with paypal on this forum"

I kinda mentioned that I cant get deals...

I believe Virwox was one of the sites which allowed you to buy bitcoins with paypal, but had a pretty steep fees. You can always buy it through traders, but another way you can buy it is through buying digital goods online and then selling it. You can look into buying an Amazon card, and then selling it for a 5% discount. You will have to take a hit in price, but thats the only good way to buy bitcoin with paypal. The 2 are just not compatible enough.

it is because you are a newbie and newbies are not considered  as trusted  with a deal that includes reversible payment method. if you spend some time in this forum and establish your account  first and yes, gain a good reputation which is most important, then you will find that dealing in this forum is the most easy way and also a time saver.

That's not possible through the forum, one could try through the trading as well exchange websites. It's possible to find traders accepting PayPal with reduced fee on localbitcoins.com, I too have seen various traders in localbitcoins.com accepting PayPal as transaction medium.

From about a month I am also searching for any place where I can convert my money in paypal to Bitcoin, I know it is impossible to buy bitcoin with paypal in this forum because of paypal reversible transaction, I am going to try virwox, I hope it will be better place for me to solve my problem.

Doesn't anyone here have bank accounts? Or get a Paypal card and withdraw cash. Both options open up far more buying opportunities with vastly lower fees. It's bleedin' obvious that Paypal's going to be a nightmare. It's fundamentally incompatible.

yes of course here we can perform any transaction. but in my opinion far superior bitcoin compared with paypal. if you want to transact without fee then bitcoin is the answer.

to this day I do not know where the place paypal to bitcoin exchange at low cost, but someone once told me a website using paypal to buy bitcoin. and the web it is VirWox.

The best way to reduce transaction fee is to withdraw your PayPal funds to your bank account, and they can use a bank account to buy from any exchange. That is the best way or with the cash you can try to buy it from any local seller.  You need to pay quite a lot of fee for buying BTC with paypal and also very difficult to buy bigger amount.

For me Virwox is working better to buy bitcoins with my paypal account so I will suggest you too for using virwox for buying your bitcoins with your paypal, and on this forum I think the exchangers do not allow for buying bitcoins with paypal,

If I were you, I'll just get some BTC from a trusted exchanger here. I bet they'll give you lower fees if you're going to convert a bigger amount. There are people doing 1:1 BTC to Paypal but I've never stumbled upon that does 1:1 Paypal to BTC. Maybe because they want to make money out of this and if they'll do lower fees, they won't earn that much. Customer is very rare at this thing so they would need to give higher fees.

Maybe the only way to get that with lower fees or even no fee at all is when you have a friend that happens to have BTC and wants Paypal.

The thing is everyone is so much paranoid on this forum when selling bitcoins for paypal, and I dont blame them.

I think the lowest fees should be to find other members in here to exchange...
but you need to build up some trust, or maybe you sent 1st / use escrow...

or you can try localbitcoin, you can find some low fees if you are lucky enough

if you have not found one, just pm me and will send you to one trusted bitcoin seller,he has thousands of good feedbacks and have been trading bitcoin to my local currency for three years,you need a facebook to get in touch and transact..

Bro If You Want to Buy Bitcoins In Exchange Of PayPal Then You Can Go For Localbitcoins because It Is The Best Websites I Am Using For Buying Bitcoins and I Know it has a Fee But Sometimes You Can Get Bitcoins at Low Fees......

If you want lower fees, try buying a giftcard with paypal, say a visa giftcard. You can buy bitcoins at lots of exchanges with your visa giftcard at a good price.

THat's right in my minds, the direct transaction with giving a more charge on your fees but different for using anything like gift card because you got it from the companies indirectly and maybe can reduce the fees you will get.

I think paypal is going to be partnered with coinbase, so with that anyone will be able to buy BTC from paypal and sell BTC for their paypal balance wthout any problem.

I just heard that news but until now its just a news bitcoin are still not accepting bitcoin..
Maybe it will start to partner with coinbase in next year once they are done in security of their custumer..

Actually you can trade it your PayPal here at this forum just use escrow to make it safe for both of you , I suggest to use escrow that trusted here in this forum if you really want to trade, its hard to trade with PayPal couse its reversable not like bitcoin.

xcoins.io

Actually, the biggest problem about Paypal is not only that is it reversible (Paypal backs the buyer not the seller usually) and also because it could happen weeks or even months down the line. That, to me, is the biggest factor of why I do not use Paypal for BTC as someone can stab me in the back at a later time.

You can try waterhole - Bitcoin OTC APP! Currently no fee there.

I don't really think that you will find a way/place to  buy bitcoins with paypal as many people are afraid to use bitcoin for that

market placed exchanger in support paypal is only one virwok
several case coinbase support paypal to
and you want buy bitcoin via paypal you can post in section curency exchange in bitcointalk forum

Like I said, you can easily buy BTC with paypal at xcoins.io

Also if you want to make a profit from your BTC you can sell them there as well. I routinely make a 15-25% markup on my BTC when selling there.

And that is exactly the reason Op said - low fees. 15%-25% is not low fee. Also xcoins.io is not an exchange it is an 'secure loans' platform.

There is basically no place when you can use PayPal buy BTC and won't pay additional 15% or more.
Op, if you have no trouble using PayPal then why don't you use standard bank account? This way you could use standard exchange.

I am also searching for one. I guess paypal seller fees also stand in our way for buying Bitcoins with Paypal with low transaction fees.

I don't think that people want to sell bitcoins through paypal with small fees

I don't think that you can buy bitcoins with paypal with low fees due to the risk of chargeback(escrow won't help as chargebacks can happen up to 180 days after the trade). Not only that, if you are trading at localbitcoins or paxful, traders would want to trade for profit but they have to compensate for the escrow fees as well.

Well, the best option it's just buying from the personality of person to person because i think through the escrowed will get a high fees for you and from using the personal method you can reducing your fees , i agree with you.

no i don't know and i doubt that there are people that sells via paypal

You won’t be able to get such deal unless you are dealing with someone who has Indian paypal account. Since paypal transactions are reversible even after several weeks, no one would deal and sell you bitcoins, but in India any amount received in paypal account is automatically withdrawn in associated bank account and one can’t even keep $0.01 so I am not sure how it reversible transaction works in such case. It’s better to create a virtual credit card and refill it with paypal and using that card to purchase bitcoins.

i cannot give you an suggestion because i never use paypal because iti s totally banned in our country and that is the reason that i never use paypal in my life time.

is nothing if you want buy bitcoin use paypal
all site exchange high fee because , this fee paypal high too

You could try with localbitcoins, because it gives access to different methods of payment option. You can easily find traders accepting PayPal, but you might be getting low amount as they levy huge commission amount compared to direct trading to USD or other Currencies.

I never heard that localbitcoin accept paypal as payment processor.. Do you know how much they are asking to buy bitcoins or minimum balance to buy bitcoins?

Bro I Suggest You That Don't Buy Bitcoins With Paypal Because PayPal Can Easily Be Reversed By Anyone So That You Can Get Scammed By Anyone Easily So I Suggest You That Be Careful in Doing Transactions With PayPal.....

i personally never use paypal in my life time and that is the reason that i have no idea about that, i think bitcoin is too much expensive therefore you should avoid and use some other source for buying bitcoins.

I guess the cheaper option would be to open an account with Cryptonit, get verified by submitting your ID, then you have the option of adding funds to your account via paypal.
You can also do the same thing at coinbase.
The two sites require ID verification after which you can buy bitcoins or any other crypto they have.

I agree with you there is maximum people never use paypoal in some countries because paypal is not availabe in some country and i also have do not any idea as you that how to buy bitcoin with paypoal , and i earning bitcoin through trading and through other online tasks .

There are few ways to transfer funds from paypal to a BTC wallet and they aren´t cheap, since I don´t use P2P exchanges, I only will show some alternatives I have been using for awhile.

********* USD from paypal to a BTC wallet using VIRWOX (AKA THE DISGUSTING WAY) *********
It takes a lot of steps, at the end of the process they reward you with an insufferable 24% commision and they keep some money thanks to their "minimal" tradeable amount policy (which is brilliant if you are the Virwox owner)

********* USD from paypal to a BTC wallet using UPHOLD/AIRTM (fees are so close to virwox but hey! they use smoother web interfaces) *********
you have to use uphold and airtm accounts together, three pros: 1) paypal works with airtm and airtm works with uphold, 2) You can fund/withdraw fiat money from/to your bank account and crytocoins wallets, 3) You can create your own wallets within uphold.

Now the steps and the math:
1) SEND USD from paypal to airtm (fee 21.5% + 0.30)
2) SEND USD from airtm to uphold (fee 2.5% + 0.30)
3) within uphold, convert USD to BTC (fee 1.05%)
4) SEND BTC from your uphold wallet to an external wallet (Network fee 0.0007 BTC)

as you can see, both methods takes a lot of steps, they are relatively secure and high fees

There is other alternative but it is in development yet

Stop using paypal and use airtm because you can receive/send or fund/withdraw fiat money using a very long list of sources including your bank account and soon crytocoin wallets, this last part is what I waiting for, because in the next future I will receive all the USD payment from my customers in my airtm account, convert to BTC and send to my external wallets.