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Title: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: bitcoinperson on March 23, 2013, 08:45:17 PM
I played one of the "games" on betcoins.net, is it a scam? I never got anything back (you're supposed to get a fraction back, even if you lose).

Edit because I was WRONG. I won using betcoints.net, and the owner made a lot of effort to help me.

Proof of my win:

https://blockchain.info/address/1pTXE3DUJvhaKxuSxGivRF6yYn2TN5nar


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: bitcoinperson on March 24, 2013, 02:27:36 AM
bump


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: bitcoinperson on March 24, 2013, 04:03:05 PM
The website says:

Send your bet to an address, to place a bet. Your bet must be between the minimum- and maximum bet. You will receive your won amount between 1  and 15 minutes! If you lose, you get a payout of 0.00000002 BTC in seconds.

I sent .01 BTC to 1EHVb2YJqm8srkGq1LwwR2tG3RWuUQ7bJG, never got anything back (I should have gotten at least 0.00000002)

Edit, because I actually WON.


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: BTCBUDDY1 on March 24, 2013, 04:40:36 PM
ill try it and tell you what haappens :P


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: AlexBCnet on March 24, 2013, 05:37:04 PM
Du you have a Web-Wallet? Please give me more info. Whats the TransactionID? We are NO Scamer.


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: Wonderbar on March 24, 2013, 05:38:14 PM
Please note that the Loose amount is payed instantly (0.000002) but for a win it waits till the bet transaction has at least 1 confirmation (to counter double spending attacks)


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: BTCBUDDY1 on March 24, 2013, 05:38:53 PM
I concur with OP this is a scam its  been an hr and no payment of anykind (5 confirmations)


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: AlexBCnet on March 24, 2013, 05:42:56 PM
I concur with OP this is a scam its  been an hr and no payment of anykind (5 confirmations)

Transaction-ID?


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: bitcoinperson on March 24, 2013, 05:57:41 PM
Status: 212 confirmations, broadcast through 7 nodes
Date: 3/23/13 13:18
To: Betcoins.net 1EHVb2YJqm8srkGq1LwwR2tG3RWuUQ7bJG
Debit: -0.01 BTC
Net amount: -0.01 BTC
Transaction ID: e31298286e4794a6f684798b74e2ec8bf4d44ac965387313fee12ece0f721531


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: bitcoinperson on March 24, 2013, 06:06:59 PM
I concur with OP this is a scam its  been an hr and no payment of anykind (5 confirmations)

Thanks for checking that out.

By the way, I would have tried to contact someone at betcoins.net first, if there was any contact information (which there isn't). I'll assume it is a scam unless I get my BTC back (or if I had gotten the fractional amount right away).


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: BTCBUDDY1 on March 24, 2013, 06:09:01 PM
phew. hey bitcoinsperson do you have a skill coding?


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: bitcoinperson on March 24, 2013, 06:11:03 PM
I know HTML, CSS, and SQL (for queries). But that is it.


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: AlexBCnet on March 24, 2013, 06:12:22 PM
I concur with OP this is a scam its  been an hr and no payment of anykind (5 confirmations)

Thanks for checking that out.

By the way, I would have tried to contact someone at betcoins.net first, if there was any contact information (which there isn't). I'll assume it is a scam unless I get my BTC back (or if I had gotten the fractional amount right away).

I've add a contact-address on our page. I think we have a problem with the script. Please give us a little bit time to fix that. All wins will be payed out shortly! Guaranteed!


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: BTCBUDDY1 on March 24, 2013, 06:15:27 PM
no offense, but your whopping 19 posts, makes my faith diminish every second i do not get payed.


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: Wonderbar on March 24, 2013, 06:45:31 PM
BTCBUDDY1 what was you transaction id?


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: AlexBCnet on March 24, 2013, 09:37:44 PM
Fixed.


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: bitcoinperson on March 24, 2013, 09:39:35 PM
Fixed.

Does that mean I get a refund?


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: BTCBUDDY1 on March 24, 2013, 09:58:51 PM
i never wouldve guessed, i lost... bitcoinperson.. i assume you did to? scam.


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: AlexBCnet on March 24, 2013, 10:04:50 PM
Fixed.

Does that mean I get a refund?

Take a look in your Wallet. Your WIN are payed.
https://blockchain.info/address/1pTXE3DUJvhaKxuSxGivRF6yYn2TN5nar


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: AlexBCnet on March 24, 2013, 10:06:56 PM
i never wouldve guessed, i lost... bitcoinperson.. i assume you did to? scam.

OMG...


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: bitcoinperson on March 24, 2013, 10:10:33 PM
Fixed.

Does that mean I get a refund?

Take a look in your Wallet. Your WIN are payed.
https://blockchain.info/address/1pTXE3DUJvhaKxuSxGivRF6yYn2TN5nar

The script wasn't working when I "played", so I had no chance of winning, but you won't give a refund?

I was wrong.


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: AlexBCnet on March 24, 2013, 10:14:15 PM
Fixed.

Does that mean I get a refund?

Take a look in your Wallet. Your WIN are payed.
https://blockchain.info/address/1pTXE3DUJvhaKxuSxGivRF6yYn2TN5nar

The script wasn't working when I "played", so I had no chance of winning, but you won't give a refund?

WTF? Guy, YOU WON and you recived your WIN! Take a look in your Wallet!


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: bitcoinperson on March 24, 2013, 10:18:29 PM
Fixed.

Does that mean I get a refund?

Take a look in your Wallet. Your WIN are payed.
https://blockchain.info/address/1pTXE3DUJvhaKxuSxGivRF6yYn2TN5nar

Now I know. betcoins.net is a total scam. 1pTXE3DUJvhaKxuSxGivRF6yYn2TN5nar  was a payment I received from a completely different source. I know that he's lying now. Please don't use betcoins.net! It is a one-way scam.

I was WRONG.


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: bitcoinperson on March 24, 2013, 10:39:27 PM
Fixed.

Does that mean I get a refund?

Take a look in your Wallet. Your WIN are payed.
https://blockchain.info/address/1pTXE3DUJvhaKxuSxGivRF6yYn2TN5nar

The script wasn't working when I "played", so I had no chance of winning, but you won't give a refund?

WTF? Guy, YOU WON and you recived your WIN! Take a look in your Wallet!

Okay, I apologize. How did you know to use that address? I was confused because I have a different label for 1pTXE3DUJvhaKxuSxGivRF6yYn2TN5nar that I had made some deposits to.

My apologies, I DID receive the BTC.


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: AlexBCnet on March 24, 2013, 10:45:34 PM
http://bitcoinratings.org/wpbdp_listing/betcoins now it all makes sense.

Why? Because you lost?


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: Wonderbar on March 24, 2013, 10:48:08 PM
Guys, please look at the blockchain!

https://blockchain.info/address/1pTXE3DUJvhaKxuSxGivRF6yYn2TN5nar
He was betting via transaction e31298286e4794a6f684798b74e2ec8bf4d44ac965387313fee12ece0f721531 on 2013-03-23 18:18:56
and received his win 1 minute and 3 seconds later via transaction 2ad6ffe41c23b48ee7f134ff14e3ffac832f78ad171159acad6c2d8f9d2a7d1a on 2013-03-23 18:19:59

The win was sent from the adresses 1CuCsiTE1FFtNhSE8GZ7wRQciA8FppYgFA and 1CGoyGLKePzdFPDkviFckR4MjNUkWuNiCc which are adresses betcoins.net seems to use to transfer money into the casino / which are adresses betcoins.net has money on to sent the wins from.. These adresses arenīt tagged in blockchain.info, so they donīt show up as "betcoin", if you click on them, you will see that these adresses are related to betcoin.net.
A transaction is NOT send from the adress you send your BTCīs too in 99% of the cases. This is just how the Bitcoin protocol/blockhain works and is completly normal.
Feel free to lookup the betcoins.net adresses in blockchain.info ( for example https://blockchain.info/address/1N6weNFroYC54w54KMV3Pwb1mY2MeR3iJA ) and you will see many transactions where wins / losses are payed.


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: Wonderbar on March 24, 2013, 10:49:45 PM
Quote from: bitcoinperson
Okay, I apologize. How did you know to use that address? I was confused because I have a different label for 1pTXE3DUJvhaKxuSxGivRF6yYn2TN5nar that I had made some deposits to.

My apologies, I DID receive the BTC.
hey no problem :) nice to hear that! And congratulations on the win (even if its a small one) :)


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: bitcoinperson on March 24, 2013, 10:53:58 PM
Quote from: bitcoinperson
Okay, I apologize. How did you know to use that address? I was confused because I have a different label for 1pTXE3DUJvhaKxuSxGivRF6yYn2TN5nar that I had made some deposits to.

My apologies, I DID receive the BTC.
hey no problem :) nice to hear that! And congratulations on the win (even if its a small one) :)

Can you please not accuse me of being a scammer? I called betcoins.net a scammer, but I was wrong, and I owned up to it. I made a mistake, it is true I don't understand how bitcoin works.

I use bitcoin-QT, which has LABELS. I had made a couple withdraws from a site, to address 1pTXE3DUJvhaKxuSxGivRF6yYn2TN5nar

Because the label was not Betcoins.net, I didn't recognize it. I made a mistake, I apologized, and I redacted my statements.



Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: Wonderbar on March 24, 2013, 10:59:22 PM
Quote from: bitcoinperson
Okay, I apologize. How did you know to use that address? I was confused because I have a different label for 1pTXE3DUJvhaKxuSxGivRF6yYn2TN5nar that I had made some deposits to.

My apologies, I DID receive the BTC.
hey no problem :) nice to hear that! And congratulations on the win (even if its a small one) :)

Can you please not accuse me of being a scammer? I called betcoins.net a scammer, but I was wrong, and I owned up to it. I made a mistake, it is true I don't understand how bitcoin works.

I use bitcoin-QT, which has LABELS. I had made a couple withdraws from a site, to address 1pTXE3DUJvhaKxuSxGivRF6yYn2TN5nar

Because the label was not Betcoins.net, I didn't recognize it. I made a mistake, I apologized, and I redacted my statements.


I removed that part from my post :)


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: bitcoinperson on March 24, 2013, 11:00:14 PM
Thanks, I think it would be good (for noobs like me) if you noted that the payout will not go to the same address, but you check the blockchain for a recently used address, and send the BTC there.



Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: AlexBCnet on March 25, 2013, 02:05:59 AM
I played one of the "games" on betcoins.net, is it a scam? I never got anything back (you're supposed to get a fraction back, even if you lose).

Edit because I was WRONG. I won using betcoints.net, and the owner made a lot of effort to help me.

Proof of my win:

https://blockchain.info/address/1pTXE3DUJvhaKxuSxGivRF6yYn2TN5nar

Thanks for the rectification!  ;)


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: BTCBUDDY1 on March 25, 2013, 02:09:51 AM
i also rectified you on bitcoinratings.org


Title: Re: betcoins.net a scam?
Post by: bitcoingonemad on March 25, 2013, 02:25:03 AM
hope you all get sorted out this is not on