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Economy => Speculation => Topic started by: ehoffman on March 24, 2013, 08:55:29 PM



Title: What will happen to BTC "Fees" when we readh 1000$/BTC?
Post by: ehoffman on March 24, 2013, 08:55:29 PM
We usually see fees like "0.005" or "0.001".  What will happen to those in the future?

Already now, playing SatoshiDICE, putting ~1$ (0.020 BTC, and soon 0.015BTC) and having to pay 0.005BTC does make a substantial difference.  The Bitcoin-qt client seem to often want the fees required.


Title: Re: What will happen to BTC "Fees" when we readh 1000$/BTC?
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on March 24, 2013, 09:05:38 PM
Fees are supposed to be determined by the miner anyways.

For your SDICE example, maybe pay fees once, deposit to your SDICE account, and bet.


Title: Re: What will happen to BTC "Fees" when we readh 1000$/BTC?
Post by: chmod755 on March 24, 2013, 09:08:09 PM
We usually see fees like "0.005" or "0.001".  What will happen to those in the future?

Buy some ASICs and decide ;)

Already now, playing SatoshiDICE, putting ~1$ (0.020 BTC, and soon 0.015BTC) and having to pay 0.005BTC does make a substantial difference.  The Bitcoin-qt client seem to often want the fees required.

Found your problem:
  • You're playing SatoshiDICE
  • You're playing it with small amounts
  • For some reason you're playing it with USD instead of BTC


Title: Re: What will happen to BTC "Fees" when we readh 1000$/BTC?
Post by: ehoffman on March 25, 2013, 12:35:49 AM
Found your problem:
  • You're playing SatoshiDICE
  • You're playing it with small amounts
  • For some reason you're playing it with USD instead of BTC

Yes, I know, however, here in Canada, as probably in lot of other country, We have one of the worst gambling regulation.  The cut on any lottery ticket is at least 45~55% going to the government.  I'm not a compulsive gambler, but I sometime like to have my lottery ticket.  Since I'm mining full time, I'm making a lot more than the cost of a ticket.  And if I have the chance of having a ticket with 45~55% return, or a "ticket" with 98.1% return, the choice is not hard to make.

I play in BTC, but I say I want to bet ~1$ per day (I make about 400$ per months in mining those days, this is after subtracting electricity cost, which is very cheap here in Quebec, and heat up our house during our cold days :)).  As said, I'm not the kind of player who will play 1000$ on 50%.  I like to play "just for fun".  1$ on low probability, maybe 1/1000 to 1/32000.  I know I'll lose, but hey, maybe someday I'll win!  That's the part where they say that gambling should remain a game... ;)

And to respond to the other comment above, SatoshiDICE don't have 'accounts'.  It's 1 transaction per bet.  So you can't put a big amount over there and use it as you go. Yes I know it's polluting the blockchain, and I do are in favor of cutting the negligible 'return on every lost bet' transactions.


Title: Re: What will happen to BTC "Fees" when we readh 1000$/BTC?
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on March 25, 2013, 09:34:23 AM
As said, I'm not the kind of player who will play 1000$ on 50%.
Hey, don't diss the people that lost 125 BTC on 48.8% >:(


Title: Re: What will happen to BTC "Fees" when we readh 1000$/BTC?
Post by: b!z on March 25, 2013, 01:32:33 PM
As said, I'm not the kind of player who will play 1000$ on 50%.
Hey, don't diss the people that lost 125 BTC on 48.8% >:(

That was a smart thing to do.