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Alternate cryptocurrencies => Mining (Altcoins) => Topic started by: Dum3 on August 07, 2016, 01:52:43 PM



Title: Who's this account?
Post by: Dum3 on August 07, 2016, 01:52:43 PM
http://ethermine.org/miners/db45111cc9c3048eefa525fdb9779aa06524b7a1


Seems like claymore isn't it?


Title: Re: Who's this account?
Post by: ldw-com on August 07, 2016, 02:38:50 PM
http://ethermine.org/miners/db45111cc9c3048eefa525fdb9779aa06524b7a1


Seems like claymore isn't it?

Could be.. could also be a botnet.

If it's claymore, you can all see how rich you're making him.

Funny thing is, you can do the exact same thing with open source software..

Have to admit, he isn't an idiot though.. Making people pay for something they can do without his software :p


Title: Re: Who's this account?
Post by: YIz on August 07, 2016, 02:47:03 PM
http://ethermine.org/miners/db45111cc9c3048eefa525fdb9779aa06524b7a1


Seems like claymore isn't it?

Could be.. could also be a botnet.

If it's claymore, you can all see how rich you're making him.

Funny thing is, you can do the exact same thing with open source software..

Have to admit, he isn't an idiot though.. Making people pay for something they can do without his software :p

The idea of his miner is the dual mining mode, which is the only reason to use his miner over ethminer.


Title: Re: Who's this account?
Post by: LeChuckDE on August 10, 2016, 11:30:53 AM
http://ethermine.org/miners/db45111cc9c3048eefa525fdb9779aa06524b7a1


Seems like claymore isn't it?

Could be.. could also be a botnet.

If it's claymore, you can all see how rich you're making him.

Funny thing is, you can do the exact same thing with open source software..

Have to admit, he isn't an idiot though.. Making people pay for something they can do without his software :p

The idea of his miner is the dual mining mode, which is the only reason to use his miner over ethminer.

you could dual mine without closedsource claymore shit


Title: Re: Who's this account?
Post by: u0000 on August 10, 2016, 11:47:35 AM
Have to admit, he isn't an idiot though.. Making people pay for something they can do without his software :p
you could dual mine without closedsource claymore shit

Care to explain how please?


Title: Re: Who's this account?
Post by: LeChuckDE on August 10, 2016, 02:05:31 PM
Have to admit, he isn't an idiot though.. Making people pay for something they can do without his software :p
you could dual mine without closedsource claymore shit

Care to explain how please?

start in one cmd or shell ethminer with propper parameters and on a second sgminer-decred with -I 18 and below ... will let you mine decred and et* at same time and hashrate on ethminer will not drop down ... you could play with the -I parameter... raise em or lower em and take a look at hashrate on ethminer... if it drops go 1 step back


Title: Re: Who's this account?
Post by: u0000 on August 10, 2016, 02:08:40 PM
start in one cmd or shell ethminer with propper parameters and on a second sgminer-decred with -I 18 and below ... will let you mine decred and et* at same time and hashrate on ethminer will not drop down ... you could play with the -I parameter... raise em or lower em and take a look at hashrate on ethminer... if it drops go 1 step back

Interesting, I tried this before when I first starting mining and it killed my eth hash rate, but will take another look again since I was on the correct track and have learnt a lot since I started.

Thanks for the response, it's appreciated.


Title: Re: Who's this account?
Post by: YIz on August 10, 2016, 02:11:33 PM
Have to admit, he isn't an idiot though.. Making people pay for something they can do without his software :p
you could dual mine without closedsource claymore shit

Care to explain how please?

start in one cmd or shell ethminer with propper parameters and on a second sgminer-decred with -I 18 and below ... will let you mine decred and et* at same time and hashrate on ethminer will not drop down ... you could play with the -I parameter... raise em or lower em and take a look at hashrate on ethminer... if it drops go 1 step back

Yeah I guessed that's what you're gonna say, but Claymore has the fine tunings to retain the stable ETH hashrate, I'll give it a try anyways.


Title: Re: Who's this account?
Post by: LeChuckDE on August 10, 2016, 04:06:15 PM
Have to admit, he isn't an idiot though.. Making people pay for something they can do without his software :p
you could dual mine without closedsource claymore shit

Care to explain how please?

start in one cmd or shell ethminer with propper parameters and on a second sgminer-decred with -I 18 and below ... will let you mine decred and et* at same time and hashrate on ethminer will not drop down ... you could play with the -I parameter... raise em or lower em and take a look at hashrate on ethminer... if it drops go 1 step back

Yeah I guessed that's what you're gonna say, but Claymore has the fine tunings to retain the stable ETH hashrate, I'll give it a try anyways.

nope its looks like... take a look at hashrate at pool and you see it is quite 10 - 20 % lower then showen in claymore
it take time to switch pool, create dag, switch back, create dag... in this time not 1 h/s is produced ... substract this from the hashrate that is showen in claymore and you will see it is slower then ethminer and sgminer with correct settings... you have to try once to find your perfect settings at sgminer (-I flag) then write a script for it to start with correct parameters for both ...
first start ethminer with screen and then sgminer with screen .... easy like hell and not this closed source miner what could hide everything in it ... nobody knows if it will not load code from web at given time, or a hidden keylogger, private key sender etc...

not a fan from such things... it is okay when dev will publish at closed source but i would never use it ...


Title: Re: Who's this account?
Post by: YIz on August 10, 2016, 04:24:36 PM
Have to admit, he isn't an idiot though.. Making people pay for something they can do without his software :p
you could dual mine without closedsource claymore shit

Care to explain how please?

start in one cmd or shell ethminer with propper parameters and on a second sgminer-decred with -I 18 and below ... will let you mine decred and et* at same time and hashrate on ethminer will not drop down ... you could play with the -I parameter... raise em or lower em and take a look at hashrate on ethminer... if it drops go 1 step back

Yeah I guessed that's what you're gonna say, but Claymore has the fine tunings to retain the stable ETH hashrate, I'll give it a try anyways.

nope its looks like... take a look at hashrate at pool and you see it is quite 10 - 20 % lower then showen in claymore
it take time to switch pool, create dag, switch back, create dag... in this time not 1 h/s is produced ... substract this from the hashrate that is showen in claymore and you will see it is slower then ethminer and sgminer with correct settings... you have to try once to find your perfect settings at sgminer (-I flag) then write a script for it to start with correct parameters for both ...
first start ethminer with screen and then sgminer with screen .... easy like hell and not this closed source miner what could hide everything in it ... nobody knows if it will not load code from web at given time, or a hidden keylogger, private key sender etc...

not a fan from such things... it is okay when dev will publish at closed source but i would never use it ...


I totally agree, when I was using Claymore's my ethereum wallet was hacked. I'm pretty sure it's not related, but for safety I stopped using Claymore's and created another wallet on a different computer.
Claymore's was showing constant 60MH/s, when ethminer shows 55MH/s, but on the pool I am getting higher hashrates with ethminer.


Title: Re: Who's this account?
Post by: ldw-com on August 11, 2016, 03:40:42 PM
Just noticed these as well

http://ethermine.org/miners/0ef177da88284818096351a26c6f35c00bf11480
http://ethermine.org/miners/0c93ec1fd7fe2bc1f12413f05296b995c21d6400

Basically the same way.

So combine those 3 and you've got around 23+Ghz..  (of what we can actually see..)

In a way, i'm like: Wtf? That is almost 48-50K USD per month...
Have to admit, best and most intelligent move i've seen in years in the mining scene (if it's him though..). So got to give it to him, congrats for that!

On the other hand, it could as well be a botnet from someone..

Still, there are alternatives, free ones..





Title: Re: Who's this account?
Post by: peoples on August 11, 2016, 04:00:38 PM
Have to admit, he isn't an idiot though.. Making people pay for something they can do without his software :p
you could dual mine without closedsource claymore shit

Care to explain how please?

start in one cmd or shell ethminer with propper parameters and on a second sgminer-decred with -I 18 and below ... will let you mine decred and et* at same time and hashrate on ethminer will not drop down ... you could play with the -I parameter... raise em or lower em and take a look at hashrate on ethminer... if it drops go 1 step back

good point , thanks for explanation. Maybe you also have an idea for stop mining only on overheating cards instead of stopping the whole miner ?


Title: Re: Who's this account?
Post by: u0000 on August 11, 2016, 04:11:49 PM
Have to admit, he isn't an idiot though.. Making people pay for something they can do without his software :p
you could dual mine without closedsource claymore shit

Care to explain how please?

start in one cmd or shell ethminer with propper parameters and on a second sgminer-decred with -I 18 and below ... will let you mine decred and et* at same time and hashrate on ethminer will not drop down ... you could play with the -I parameter... raise em or lower em and take a look at hashrate on ethminer... if it drops go 1 step back

good point , thanks for explanation. Maybe you also have an idea for stop mining only on overheating cards instead of stopping the whole miner ?

Sgminer has a --temp-cutoff parameter (comma separated values for each card) which you can set to stop the decred mining. Ethminer will carry on as normal though. Providing that running Ethminer alone doesn't cause overheating then this method should be sufficient.

See all the sgminer params:
Code:
sgminer --help

Dump params to text file
Code:
sgminer --help > sgminer.txt