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Title: For the newbies
Post by: Tyrantt on August 09, 2016, 04:29:15 PM
There's something that may throw a newbie in an illusion that they can get a hold of a lot of btc in a short time, well you can't. You need to work just as for the real money. You can get payed a few cent's for signature promotion or offer your skills (if you've got some that are in demand here) to earn a lot more.

Also, don't be fooled by the faucets and such websites, they all may give out something per hour, day or minutes but that is so low that it wil ltake a lot more time to get something than to rank up a little and join a signature campaign. Don't be fooled by that.
If you plan on investin your btc in sopme cloud mining or some other website, your best choise is to ask here for the opinions, because someone may have already been scammed or actually profited so they can guide you with that.

At the end of it, keep your wallet safe, don't rush with the faucets and offers they give, consult here for possible scams and keep on spreading the good word of BTC. Good luck!



Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: ImHavingAGreatTime on August 09, 2016, 04:42:33 PM
Agree with the part about faucets. They will make you work from dawn till dusk for weeks, before you make your first $10, so not worth bothering with.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: deadsilent on August 10, 2016, 12:27:32 AM
Thats what i thought when i register here. I thought i can easily earn some bitcoins. But its not. Its a long run for me to earn that. Maybe if you have capital to invest in a investment sites or maybe buy it. It take a lot of time but im not losing my patience. Im gonna earn it and thats my goal.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: Vinz24 on August 10, 2016, 04:46:04 AM
I recommend the faucet for newbies in bitcoin to get to know how the wallet/bitcoin works. But dont expect high amount of bitcoin in faucet. Trading bitcoin to alt coin is best way to get a profit in bitcoin.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: Relnarien on August 10, 2016, 05:04:08 AM
Faucets were never meant to be a source of income anyway. Faucets were conceived to help get newbies acquainted with bitcoins and the Bitcoin client. The idea was to provide newbies with some dust which they could then use to learn about sending, receiving, transaction fees, and all those other concepts that Bitcoin users need to know about. However, along the way, the concept got twisted into what it currently is by people who think that Bitcoin is free Internet money that they could get rich from while being a NEET. It's pathetic, really.

This is the first thing that newbies should know about bitcoin: bitcoin is not free money. Some got rich by being early adopters, some by being skillful (lucky) traders, and some by more dubious means. None of those have anything to do with people giving away random amounts of bitcoin dust. Invest, work or trade -- that's how you increase your bitcoins.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: Xenophoto on August 10, 2016, 09:32:51 AM
Faucets were never meant to be a source of income anyway. Faucets were conceived to help get newbies acquainted with bitcoins and the Bitcoin client. The idea was to provide newbies with some dust which they could then use to learn about sending, receiving, transaction fees, and all those other concepts that Bitcoin users need to know about.
Entirely false. Faucet sites are made so that the owner of it can make money out of the advertisements. Faucet owners never had the interest of helping newbies out there. In the first place, it's never their responsibility to do so. Faucet sites use those "dust" to make an illusion that the newbies are making money even if ultimately they aren't.

If you calculate the electricity expense and the internet bills that a newbie is consuming, you'll come up to a conclusion that what you have earned from a non-stop all day faucet session is really really little compared to what you have consumed.

Here's a tip for newbies out there that wants to explore faucet sites: "Don't."


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: jacktheking on August 10, 2016, 09:37:50 AM
Nice tips you have. One thing I found that is wrong - from my perspective.

"You can get payed a few cent's for signature promotion"

This only applies to low rank (which is the targeted user of this thread). You should also add that with higher rank, they can earn a much higher payout from signature campaign. I remember that I earn about ten USD worth of Bitcoin per week when I was Full Member. I started earning 50 USD per week when I was Senior Member.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: Herbert2020 on August 10, 2016, 11:55:53 AM
Faucets were never meant to be a source of income anyway. Faucets were conceived to help get newbies acquainted with bitcoins and the Bitcoin client. The idea was to provide newbies with some dust which they could then use to learn about sending, receiving, transaction fees, and all those other concepts that Bitcoin users need to know about.
Entirely false. Faucet sites are made so that the owner of it can make money out of the advertisements. Faucet owners never had the interest of helping newbies out there. In the first place, it's never their responsibility to do so. Faucet sites use those "dust" to make an illusion that the newbies are making money even if ultimately they aren't.

If you calculate the electricity expense and the internet bills that a newbie is consuming, you'll come up to a conclusion that what you have earned from a non-stop all day faucet session is really really little compared to what you have consumed.

Here's a tip for newbies out there that wants to explore faucet sites: "Don't."

the problem is that the faucet owners aren't really earning that much money either. there is only one successful faucet that i know and that was freebit.co that has suffered like others ever since google ads blocked them.
even faucet owners are earning a tiny amount after deducting the cost of domain+hosting+payment to the users. in the end there is only a tiny amount left for themselves.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: signup01 on August 10, 2016, 11:56:47 AM
Faucet will work if you have bot. If not, I recommend to search another way to get bitcoin.
bitcoin same as 'real money'. Its mean: you will get more money if you work harder.
Do not put big hope to faucet or another site that give you free satoshi. Or if you are the great referral fisher, you can use the faucet to beginer btc earner.
I do not recommend to invest your btc, because there are many 'baby site' which never grow up as "adult" or legit site. but, if you are risk taker, you can choose "hit and run" method. Just play for once or twice then find another "baby site".

So does gambling, you can make money/btc by gambling, but don't put big hope from them. From my experience I lost much btc from gambling.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: xJuturna on August 10, 2016, 01:45:04 PM
Faucets are okay but don't spend a ton of time in them as there are a couple that will give you a decent sized reward with an average of 180 minutes wait times. Just do some of the ones on www.faucetbox.com (http://www.faucetbox.com) and you'll see which ones I'm speaking about. I do them in my free time (about 1.5hr total a day) about three times a day and I can net around 30k satoshi in a day. I'm not saying this is a lot but it ads up, and that's what this is all about right?


The reality is, your best bet if you want to earn BTC is you have to do exactly that, earn it. Do your research on BTC itself, contribute as best you can to the forum, and hopefully you will be able to get into a signature campaign. If you have an interest in sports spend a couple mBTC and try your hand at some sports betting. There's a couple of sites around with free faucets that also offer lotteries you can save up tickets and enter at no cost. If you're feeling real lucky you can mess with dice / casino sites. Find some good ways to invest your bitcoin once you have a somewhat decent amount (Casino bankrolls, Lending/Escrowing trades here on the forum, open up your own faucet, etc) Please do your research when it comes to investments, just because your money is in a different form, treat it the same. There's plenty of people trying to scam bitcoin users out there, too many to count.


There's many ways to earn BTC but thing you have to understand as quickly as possible (for everyone's sake) is that there's no BTC fairy that's going to buzz it's way by and drop free money off into your wallet with a little glitter left behind. You have to work for it and earn it.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: Relnarien on August 10, 2016, 01:57:54 PM
Faucets were never meant to be a source of income anyway. Faucets were conceived to help get newbies acquainted with bitcoins and the Bitcoin client. The idea was to provide newbies with some dust which they could then use to learn about sending, receiving, transaction fees, and all those other concepts that Bitcoin users need to know about.
Entirely false. Faucet sites are made so that the owner of it can make money out of the advertisements. Faucet owners never had the interest of helping newbies out there. In the first place, it's never their responsibility to do so. Faucet sites use those "dust" to make an illusion that the newbies are making money even if ultimately they aren't.

Apparently, you think that by quoting me out of context by omitting parts of my post and keeping only the parts that fit your agenda, you can somehow change the facts, all while making yourself look good at my expense. Maybe try it on someone less knowledgeable than yourself next time?

The concept of Bitcoin faucets was developed by Gavin Andresen, as he created the first Bitcoin faucet which gave away 5 Bitcoins to every user. According to him, he did that because he wanted "the Bitcoin project to succeed, and I (sic) think it is more likely to be a success if people can get a handful of coins to try it out". A single bitcoin wasn't worth $600 back then, but he was still giving out more than anything he could get back even if the site was ad-supported (which I don't think it even was originally).

It's true that faucets nowadays are mostly created to generate small amounts of income for their operators, which is what my post said before you omitted the parts which didn't support your biased arguments. But you already knew that, didn't you?


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: PeRo on August 10, 2016, 02:08:19 PM
I like how you spent time in explaining the newbies why they should not use faucets and guiding them how to earn with signature campaigns. Bit they will probably keep using them and not look into this thread. They will use them and when they actually see that there is no earning with it they will stop. I hope that they will actually see your post as it is very helpful to them.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: HaXX0R1337 on August 10, 2016, 02:53:42 PM
There's something that may throw a newbie in an illusion that they can get a hold of a lot of btc in a short time, well you can't. You need to work just as for the real money. You can get payed a few cent's for signature promotion or offer your skills (if you've got some that are in demand here) to earn a lot more.

Also, don't be fooled by the faucets and such websites, they all may give out something per hour, day or minutes but that is so low that it wil ltake a lot more time to get something than to rank up a little and join a signature campaign. Don't be fooled by that.
If you plan on investin your btc in sopme cloud mining or some other website, your best choise is to ask here for the opinions, because someone may have already been scammed or actually profited so they can guide you with that.

At the end of it, keep your wallet safe, don't rush with the faucets and offers they give, consult here for possible scams and keep on spreading the good word of BTC. Good luck!


Yeah, all that true actually, same with faucets. making even 20$ from faucet is a very long , boring haul so it is not worth it at all.
Actually doing btc without some particular skill is hard, if you dont have bitcointalk account. However you can try looking for newbie sig campaining.



Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: BTCLovingDude on August 10, 2016, 03:15:45 PM
Faucets are okay .....

do you know what dust is?
these micro transactions that you keep receiving from faucets, even if you wait to accumulate a lot and then withdraw it is still so many transactions.

i just spent a long time teaching a poor bitcoin newbie on another forum (not bitcoin related) what dust is. the poor guy was mad because he had to pay $7 fee for a $10 transaction. and that is what faucets give you.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: CoinBreader on August 10, 2016, 04:16:12 PM
For newbies there are just 3 rules
1)dont do faucets
2)dont invest in cloudmining
3)keep your BTC on your wallet

If you want to gather BTC with out capital get some from services here, or try to do some hobby mining, in the meanwhile learn how to trade. There is no other path to Bit-ctory (aka Victory)   8)


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: Strongkored on August 11, 2016, 05:21:22 AM
For newbies there are just 3 rules
1)dont do faucets
2)dont invest in cloudmining
3)keep your BTC on your wallet

If you want to gather BTC with out capital get some from services here, or try to do some hobby mining, in the meanwhile learn how to trade. There is no other path to Bit-ctory (aka Victory)   8)

I think only a few newbie who wants to buy bitcoin. And most of them definitely want to get it for free with a bitcoin faucet or other things. And you need to remember if this newbie does not have the skill of how he could get bitcoin of the services they provide?

But I strongly agree with the second option, to stay away from Ponzi sites like cloudmining and HYIP or in other forms. thanks


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: Daisy14 on August 13, 2016, 08:15:59 AM
I will definitely like to trade but in small amounts.

The transaction fees at popular exchanges puts me off

Bittfinex: ~15%
Polniex:~25%
Kraken:~20%

How do you then make profit when you are only trading small amounts?


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: financetalks on August 13, 2016, 11:38:11 AM
I will definitely like to trade but in small amounts.

The transaction fees at popular exchanges puts me off

Bittfinex: ~15%
Polniex:~25%
Kraken:~20%

How do you then make profit when you are only trading small amounts?


If the transaction fees eat you more than 15%, your trading amounts are really very small.

You probably should only withdraw after you do multiple trades and accumulate enough BTC.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: AdolfinWolf on August 13, 2016, 12:36:28 PM
There's something that may throw a newbie in an illusion that they can get a hold of a lot of btc in a short time, well you can't. You need to work just as for the real money. You can get payed a few cent's for signature promotion or offer your skills (if you've got some that are in demand here) to earn a lot more.

Also, don't be fooled by the faucets and such websites, they all may give out something per hour, day or minutes but that is so low that it wil ltake a lot more time to get something than to rank up a little and join a signature campaign. Don't be fooled by that.
If you plan on investin your btc in sopme cloud mining or some other website, your best choise is to ask here for the opinions, because someone may have already been scammed or actually profited so they can guide you with that.

At the end of it, keep your wallet safe, don't rush with the faucets and offers they give, consult here for possible scams and keep on spreading the good word of BTC. Good luck!



 Well, faucets could be profitable, but only for people that are in countries like India etc, If you live in europe you're probably paying more cost on elektricity then you'll get by doing faucets.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: maku on August 13, 2016, 12:48:14 PM
I will definitely like to trade but in small amounts.

The transaction fees at popular exchanges puts me off

Bittfinex: ~15%
Polniex:~25%
Kraken:~20%

How do you then make profit when you are only trading small amounts?
What are you talking about? I checked Poloniex's site out of curiosity and their fees table is nothing like you presented.
It is 0.15% Maker and 0.25% Taker fee when your are trading with less than 600 BTC. I didn't see 25% transaction fee anywhere.

Source: https://poloniex.com/fees/ (https://poloniex.com/fees/)


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: Strongkored on August 13, 2016, 12:50:55 PM
Well, faucets could be profitable, but only for people that are in countries like India etc, If you live in europe you're probably paying more cost on elektricity then you'll get by doing faucets.

Yes, it's priceless faucet results based on each individual and not everyone is the same. And every person is different because they have different backgrounds and life as you mentioned. So in my opinion do not underestimate income faucet, because for people who do not have the skill it is a good thing than not getting anything. Thank you


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: krishna1 on August 13, 2016, 01:43:30 PM
Yes Bro I also Agree With You About the Faucets Part Because When I Was a Newbie I Start to work On Faucets But I Don't Earn Much Amount Of Money and It Is Not My Time Worth.....


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: Natlind on August 14, 2016, 03:53:20 PM
Yes Bro I also Agree With You About the Faucets Part Because When I Was a Newbie I Start to work On Faucets But I Don't Earn Much Amount Of Money and It Is Not My Time Worth.....
Better to spend time with this forum posting and learning about bitcoins to the depth. This would really bring more familiarity with bitcoins and its topics posted here in this forum. This would certainly help posts.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: Corenin on August 14, 2016, 07:49:01 PM
Yes Bro I also Agree With You About the Faucets Part Because When I Was a Newbie I Start to work On Faucets But I Don't Earn Much Amount Of Money and It Is Not My Time Worth.....

If you don't have any other option to earn bitcoins then faucets is good to start at initial stage, and once you come to know other ways you can always switch to them to earn higher.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: autumnraynefyr on August 14, 2016, 08:06:10 PM
I have made money with faucets, albeit not a terribly huge amount, in total, I think to date I have only made about .02BTC off of faucets, but that took several weeks upon weeks to reach in reality. While they are just dust, collecting dust every once in a while does actually add up over time, hence while tables in abandoned buildings have inches of dust on them..  :D ..Realistically though, the amount of time that you would spend hunting down the 20 anti-bot links in a page (I hate those, especially when they are hidden between ads that are extremely close together), or waiting on captchas to load to decipher and type them, you could be doing some many other things to be making more consistent money. I, for example, joined mTurk (Amazon's paid microtasks site) several months ago and make money so much more quickly doing stuff like surveys and data-entry, granted its still not a lot of money as the tasks range from $0.01 to $0.20 per task on average usually.. Sometimes, there will be some worth more, but its money, and you are working for it..  :-\

The head chef at my school says that there is no such thing as the free truck, that even though it has the illusion of being free, someone is paying for it somewhere, in the example of BTC it's whether through paying for electricity to run the mining platforms, or the costs of the internet to connect to somewhere to get "free" btc, someone is paying for that "free" money..


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: Hellacopter on August 14, 2016, 08:26:53 PM
Faucets are good for beginners with Bitcoin's world, however as OP noticed if you got other profitable ways to make bitcoins fast so don't waste your time with faucets because earning from there is very low


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: nejibens on August 14, 2016, 09:20:53 PM
That's a good helpful thread for newbies, and i add another advice that they involve into asking loans or selling goods and services especially without escrow or collateral.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: ImHavingAGreatTime on August 14, 2016, 10:47:15 PM
Yes Bro I also Agree With You About the Faucets Part Because When I Was a Newbie I Start to work On Faucets But I Don't Earn Much Amount Of Money and It Is Not My Time Worth.....

If you don't have any other option to earn bitcoins then faucets is good to start at initial stage, and once you come to know other ways you can always switch to them to earn higher.

I mean, maybe just to acquaint yourself with the basics of how Bitcoin works, but once you're done with that - there is no point in dealing with them any longer. If you're looking for actual profit, the time you can spend on faucets is actually much better spent on searching for more profitable ways of earning.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: passwordnow on August 14, 2016, 11:46:21 PM
Faucets are good for beginners with Bitcoin's world, however as OP noticed if you got other profitable ways to make bitcoins fast so don't waste your time with faucets because earning from there is very low

At first I thought faucets are the only way to earn with bitcoin but thanks to these kinds of thread it is really helping us a lot for knowing more about bitcoin.
I hope to earn better in the future with bitcoin and going to make it a real career.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: mundang on August 15, 2016, 12:05:37 AM
Agree with the part about faucets. They will make you work from dawn till dusk for weeks, before you make your first $10, so not worth bothering with.
Youre absolutely right you will need years before you can collect 1 btc in faucets. Even if you are claiming per hour or per 10 minutes still not enough,


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: dunfida on August 15, 2016, 04:23:46 AM
Agree with the part about faucets. They will make you work from dawn till dusk for weeks, before you make your first $10, so not worth bothering with.
Youre absolutely right you will need years before you can collect 1 btc in faucets. Even if you are claiming per hour or per 10 minutes still not enough,

Faucets are just a waste of time and doesnt even worth for your time and effort but those faucets give me  experiences in the past when i was only a newbie. After im done with faucets and i just realize that they are just a waste of time and i decide to join signature campaigns instead.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: Sunfire_99 on August 15, 2016, 09:00:14 AM
Totally Agree :D


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: Strongkored on August 15, 2016, 09:30:25 AM
Faucets are just a waste of time and doesnt even worth for your time and effort but those faucets give me  experiences in the past when i was only a newbie. After im done with faucets and i just realize that they are just a waste of time and i decide to join signature campaigns instead.

As you say, it's worthwhile or not faucet depends on the people who play. For most people who are new to bitcoin faucet is a good thing to learn as you would when newbie. But once you're past the newbie stage you will realize faucet worthless when compared signature campaign. So I guess it all depends on the person. Thanks


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: safari88 on August 15, 2016, 12:04:44 PM
Faucets are just a waste of time and doesnt even worth for your time and effort but those faucets give me  experiences in the past when i was only a newbie. After im done with faucets and i just realize that they are just a waste of time and i decide to join signature campaigns instead.

As you say, it's worthwhile or not faucet depends on the people who play. For most people who are new to bitcoin faucet is a good thing to learn as you would when newbie. But once you're past the newbie stage you will realize faucet worthless when compared signature campaign. So I guess it all depends on the person. Thanks

you are right, all those who already have a large income, they would say faucet is not worth, at first I thought a lot of people who play the faucet when newbie, including me. I think the faucet is worth for a newbie. but it may not be worth it for people who have long used bitcoin. with over time newbie will get better and leave the faucet, so let them use the faucet to get his first bitcoin.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: SteinsMadScientist on August 16, 2016, 04:29:03 AM
I tried faucets just before I realized how much time I was wasting (hours) and how much I was getting (like 30 satoshi??!?).  I was better off going to work at a job paying minimum wage.  I was new to btc so I thought I could get a few free ones to get myself up in the game.  Not worth it.  Do a signature campaign or use our lemonade stand money.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: Vintry Dribbler 1975 on August 16, 2016, 04:48:29 AM
You drop pennies and nickels on the ground and then wonder why the great unwashed of the world traipse after you begging for more of the same?

If you threw nickels and dimes you might get a better class of beggar, but you'll won't attract the kind of street walker you are looking for.

Faucets have had their day a long time ago.


Title: Re: For the newbies
Post by: Natlind on August 17, 2016, 12:21:29 AM
Concentrate on learning more about bitcoins and the ways open to earn bitcoins. The forum here, fully onto it. Always we discuss on bitcoins, so better know about it and be familiar with it before start posting.