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Title: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: omer_parvez on August 12, 2016, 06:59:16 PM
All the stereotypes here thinks that Islam only orders to kill ..but let me tell you Islam Gave rights to women and gave every human being their rights to live and right to make property and rights of the neighbours ............Islam is here for the previous 1400 years and Islamic terriosm Only started After United States started to Invade Muslim Countries ? Whats your take on this


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: xht on August 12, 2016, 07:17:47 PM
All the stereotypes here thinks that Islam only orders to kill ..but let me tell you Islam Gave rights to women and gave every human being their rights to live and right to make property and rights of the neighbours ............Islam is here for the previous 1400 years and Islamic terriosm Only started After United States started to Invade Muslim Countries ? Whats your take on this
It was a secret that has been known in the Islamic teaching may kill another in the name of jihad and was recognized by the Islam.


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: omer_parvez on August 12, 2016, 07:26:09 PM
All the stereotypes here thinks that Islam only orders to kill ..but let me tell you Islam Gave rights to women and gave every human being their rights to live and right to make property and rights of the neighbours ............Islam is here for the previous 1400 years and Islamic terriosm Only started After United States started to Invade Muslim Countries ? Whats your take on this
It was a secret that has been known in the Islamic teaching may kill another in the name of jihad and was recognized by the Islam.
what was crusades then ???? If Islam Orders to jhad then why christians ordered crusades that were against Islam and if Muslims wont fight against crusaders then Islam wont exist today


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: markj113 on August 12, 2016, 07:32:17 PM
The problem is the crusades were 100's of years ago when the human race was less evolved.

Islam is a pain in the ass right now world wide.

What pisses me off is the complete lack of integration, trying to impose Sharia wherever they go, recent raping spree etc.


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: omer_parvez on August 12, 2016, 07:42:45 PM
The problem is the crusades were 100's of years ago when the human race was less evolved.

Islam is a pain in the ass right now world wide.

What pisses me off is the complete lack of integration, trying to impose Sharia wherever they go, recent raping spree etc.
Islam is not pain in the ass ............if the west kill millions of Muslims what you expect from them???? stand down .?no they will fight till there is nothing left on either side


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: markj113 on August 12, 2016, 07:43:47 PM
If the West is such a terrible place killing millions of muslims then why do they all want to come here lol


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: omer_parvez on August 12, 2016, 08:03:38 PM
If the West is such a terrible place killing millions of muslims then why the fuck do they all want to come here lol
isnt that obvious ??? To get a better life standard because the west fucked up their countries and in order to get better life they want to travel to west


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: markj113 on August 12, 2016, 08:15:04 PM
But arent there many islamic countries that are not currently at war e.g.  Qatar, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, Bahrein, Tunisia...

Yet they all seem to head West instead of there?

What muslims need to realise is that they are welcome providing :

1) They integrate with the local population
2) They abide by the local laws
3) They do not try to impose their will upon the local population
4) They quit being offended by local customs and way of life
5) They do not go on a crime spree of rape and theft

If they wish to continue living in the manner of an Islamic country then move to an Islamic country to begin with.

There are apparently 4300 recognised world religions, yet here in the UK there is only ever one that is forever causing problems.  When was the last time you heard of sikh or hindu kicking off make demands of the country to change to suit their lifestyle choice?



Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: omer_parvez on August 12, 2016, 08:29:30 PM
But arent there many islamic countries that are not currently at war e.g.  Qatar, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, Bahrein, Tunisia...

Yet they all seem to head West instead of there?

What muslims need to realise is that they are welcome providing :

1) They integrate with the local population
2) They abide by the local laws
3) They do not try to impose their will upon the local population
4) They quite being offended by local customs and way of life
5) They do not go on a crime spree of rape and theft

If they wish to continue living in the manner of an Islamic country then move to an Islamic country to begin with.
ever heard of any Qatari Kuwaite UAE nationals have moved to west for living ...........they go there to spend holidays otherwise they are happy in their respective countries only the people from war affected areas move toward the west to increase their life standards


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: ghost15 on August 12, 2016, 08:35:18 PM
I say that if you are a true Muslim you should take your subject in another place.
here is a place of money and gambling.
Zoof
isnt that obvious ??? To get a better life standard because the west fucked up their countries and in order to get better life they want to travel to west
To get a better life you should stop following the west,preserve your principles and correctly apply your religion.


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: eddie13 on August 12, 2016, 08:45:42 PM
All the stereotypes here thinks that Islam only orders to kill ..but let me tell you Islam Gave rights to women and gave every human being their rights to live and right to make property and rights of the neighbours ............Islam is here for the previous 1400 years and Islamic terriosm Only started After United States started to Invade Muslim Countries ? Whats your take on this


yeah ok..


Islam Gave rights to women

You mean rights to beat women right?

human being their rights to live

If they "submit" Correct? Become an islam or pay how much taxes?

and to make property and rights of the neighbours ...........

To take the property and rights away from their neighbors if they are infidels..

Islam is here for the previous 1400 years and Islamic terriosm Only started After United States started to Invade Muslim Countries ?

Muhammed himself was a terrorist. All muslim expansion and conquering was done by way of terrorism.

Muslims took more slaves than any other people and treated them the worst..
You know why there are no black populations in the middle east like there are in the USA? Bcause islams just killed them when they were done with them. Most of their slaves never made it across the desert in the first place after they cut their penises and testicals off, like 70% died on the march across the desert to the east..

And they continue to take slaves to this day..



You want to prove to me that muslims are good? THEN GO WIPE OUT ISIS..

I want no but but but stupid excuses.. We are about ready to wipe them out from across the world and you fucks wont even wipe them out in your own back yards..


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: eddie13 on August 12, 2016, 08:47:38 PM
All the stereotypes here thinks that Islam only orders to kill ..but let me tell you Islam Gave rights to women and gave every human being their rights to live and right to make property and rights of the neighbours ............Islam is here for the previous 1400 years and Islamic terriosm Only started After United States started to Invade Muslim Countries ? Whats your take on this
It was a secret that has been known in the Islamic teaching may kill another in the name of jihad and was recognized by the Islam.
what was crusades then ???? If Islam Orders to jhad then why christians ordered crusades that were against Islam and if Muslims wont fight against crusaders then Islam wont exist today

Are you daft? Do you know know history?

Muslims came and whiped out christian territories, and terrorized them, and the crusades were christians taking back land that islamists raped and pillaged..

You deserved the crusades and are about to get another one..


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: eddie13 on August 12, 2016, 08:53:44 PM
The problem is the crusades were 100's of years ago when the human race was less evolved.

Islam is a pain in the ass right now world wide.

What pisses me off is the complete lack of integration, trying to impose Sharia wherever they go, recent raping spree etc.
Islam is not pain in the ass ............if the west kill millions of Muslims what you expect from them???? stand down .?no they will fight till there is nothing left on either side

That's what the japaneese thought too..

You really wanna go there? You cant win.. We just utterly dominate you and you better get used to it.. Keep up your stupid little attacks and we are going to have to come really fuck you up.. Didn't you see what we could do in that small Iraq operation?

We are capable of desert storm X5 and bush jr.s iraq war X5 at the same time. What we have done is just barely a flick compared to what we are capable of..

You don't want an all out war, you will not win..

Pretty much you knock your stupid shit off and "submit" to us or be fucking killed.. It's not like we are asking much.. Quit killing and raping everyone..


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: mindrust on August 12, 2016, 09:09:41 PM
All the stereotypes here thinks that Islam only orders to kill ..but let me tell you Islam Gave rights to women and gave every human being their rights to live and right to make property and rights of the neighbours ............Islam is here for the previous 1400 years and Islamic terriosm Only started After United States started to Invade Muslim Countries ? Whats your take on this

What rights Islam gave to women? Please explain. As far as know, men can divorce their wives whenever they like. They can have 4 wives if they wanted to. They can even beat them. Women can't give testimony in Islam. And you are telling me Islam is women friendly. From where i see, it is the exact opposite.

Christianity had the same stages of dark ages but people riotted against churches and now it is only a tradition. Nobody believes what bible tells anymore. Again, much opposite with Islam.

If islam people riotted against stupid fucks who used religion to make wealth in the past we wouldn't be discussing Islam today like we are doing it now.


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: Lethn on August 12, 2016, 09:43:05 PM
I love how when Muslims try to defend their religion now they seem to have nothing more to say than "But Christians do it too!" as if that's some sort of argument, fuck off, you're not above criticism and you're certainly not invincible no matter how fanatical you are, you're going to start learning that the hard way.


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: markj113 on August 12, 2016, 10:05:24 PM
Islam the religion of peace and tolerance really knows how to look after women, children, homosexuals and other religious beliefs

Children:
https://i.imgur.com/1QYpOP0.png



Teaching gays to fly:
https://i.imgur.com/fG3hhuY.png



Putting the wife back in her place for flashing her ankles:
https://i.imgur.com/5Cdcevb.png



Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: jupiterdianysa on August 12, 2016, 11:00:22 PM
Islam is the only religion that cant keep up with real world today.


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: Spendulus on August 13, 2016, 01:39:42 AM
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There are apparently 4300 recognised world religions, yet here in the UK there is only ever one that is forever causing problems. ....

No more needs be said.


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: Spendulus on August 13, 2016, 01:40:45 AM
All the stereotypes here thinks that Islam only orders to kill ..but let me tell you Islam Gave rights to women and gave every human being their rights to live and right to make property and rights of the neighbours ............Islam is here for the previous 1400 years and Islamic terriosm Only started After United States started to Invade Muslim Countries ? Whats your take on this
It was a secret that has been known in the Islamic teaching may kill another in the name of jihad and was recognized by the Islam.
what was crusades then ???? If Islam Orders to jhad then why christians ordered crusades that were against Islam and if Muslims wont fight against crusaders then Islam wont exist today


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: designerusa on August 14, 2016, 07:17:23 AM
The problem is the crusades were 100's of years ago when the human race was less evolved.

Islam is a pain in the ass right now world wide.

What pisses me off is the complete lack of integration, trying to impose Sharia wherever they go, recent raping spree etc.

you are completely right . islamic terrorisim is the biggest problem of the world currently not islamic religious . Muslim people must integrate in the western countiries where they immigrated. they can pray freely there without forcing western countries to become a islamic state.


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: Lethn on August 14, 2016, 08:00:36 AM
The problem is the crusades were 100's of years ago when the human race was less evolved.

Islam is a pain in the ass right now world wide.

What pisses me off is the complete lack of integration, trying to impose Sharia wherever they go, recent raping spree etc.

you are completely right . islamic terrorisim is the biggest problem of the world currently not islamic religious . Muslim people must integrate in the western countiries where they immigrated. they can pray freely there without forcing western countries to become a islamic state.

I think one of the reasons that Muslims come here trying to impose Sharia despite claiming to 'hate' people like ISIS is they're trying to pick and choose what laws they follow. Most Muslims are pretty much advocating a version of Sharia Lite. So they still want gays and women to be treated like shit, they still want to have all sorts of bullshit rules like not being able to insult the prophet mohammed they just don't want to go along with the more literal interpretations of the Qu'ran that ISIS follows.

In short, they're a bunch of hypocrites and I'm sick of them trying to play the victim whenever someone calls them out on their bullshit, I've genuinely stopped caring about being called a 'Racist' or 'Islamaphobe' in regards to Islam now, at least I'm not the one openly supporting a fucking cult.


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: just_Alice on August 14, 2016, 08:45:16 AM
All the stereotypes here thinks that Islam only orders to kill ..but let me tell you Islam Gave rights to women and gave every human being their rights to live and right to make property and rights of the neighbours ............Islam is here for the previous 1400 years and Islamic terriosm Only started After United States started to Invade Muslim Countries ? Whats your take on this
I totally agree with you, Islam is not the thing, which most people think is it. Terrorism has nothing to do with religion. We don't consider Christianity as terrorism, nevertheless they did the Crusades..


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: Lethn on August 14, 2016, 08:50:44 AM
All the stereotypes here thinks that Islam only orders to kill ..but let me tell you Islam Gave rights to women and gave every human being their rights to live and right to make property and rights of the neighbours ............Islam is here for the previous 1400 years and Islamic terriosm Only started After United States started to Invade Muslim Countries ? Whats your take on this
I totally agree with you, Islam is not the thing, which most people think is it. Terrorism has nothing to do with religion. We don't consider Christianity as terrorism, nevertheless they did the Crusades..

And again you fall back on "But Christians did it too!" don't you realise how pathetic that kind of thing makes you look? How about, I don't know.... Perhaps saying that Sharia law is a bad thing and that Islam should work to stop abusing peoples' human rights?

Or would that be too fucking hard for you?


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: markj113 on August 14, 2016, 10:59:17 AM
I totally agree with you, Islam is not the thing, which most people think is it. Terrorism has nothing to do with religion. We don't consider Christianity as terrorism, nevertheless they did the Crusades..

The crusades took place during the 13th Century, every person on the planet involved is long gone.  Get the fuck over it and move on  ::) ::)


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: Hirose UK on August 14, 2016, 11:17:00 AM
All the stereotypes here thinks that Islam only orders to kill ..but let me tell you Islam Gave rights to women and gave every human being their rights to live and right to make property and rights of the neighbours ............Islam is here for the previous 1400 years and Islamic terriosm Only started After United States started to Invade Muslim Countries ? Whats your take on this

of course. Islam is the peace religion if people really know about it. we can't even kill non muslims if they aren't against us. and in the war, we have rules:
1. “Do not kill any child, any woman, or any elder or sick person.” (Sunan Abu Dawud)

2. “Do not practice treachery or mutilation.(Al-Muwatta)

3. Do not uproot or burn palms or cut down fruitful trees.(Al-Muwatta)

4. Do not slaughter a sheep or a cow or a camel, except for food.” (Al-Muwatta)

5. “If one fights his brother, [he must] avoid striking the face, for God created him in the image of Adam.” (Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim)

6. “Do not kill the monks in monasteries, and do not kill those sitting in places of worship. (Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal)

7. “Do not destroy the villages and towns, do not spoil the cultivated fields and gardens, and do not slaughter the cattle.” (Sahih Bukhari; Sunan Abu Dawud)

8. “Do not wish for an encounter with the enemy; pray to God to grant you security; but when you [are forced to] encounter them, exercise patience.” (Sahih Muslim)

9. “No one may punish with fire except the Lord of Fire.” (Sunan Abu Dawud).

10. “Accustom yourselves to do good if people do good, and to not do wrong even if they commit evil.” (Al-Tirmidhi)

so don't get it wrong. Islam is not a cruel religion. just read Qur'an and hadith to know what Islam really is. don't judge the religion based on the believers, but judge it by reading the religion book, Qur'an, and the Prophet's deeds.


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: markj113 on August 14, 2016, 11:47:16 AM
Islam is the peace religion if people really know about it. we can't even kill non muslims if they aren't against us.

You speak about non-muslims like they are inferior, and they wont be killed if they do as you say.

Kind of proves the point.



Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: Lethn on August 14, 2016, 12:39:41 PM
Hirose, you're full of shit, like all Muslims you nitpick at quotes and keep out the full context of the Qu'ran in order to make it seem more moderate.

Quote
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, "fitna", can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

And this was just a fucking paragraph! Your religion and texts are literally stating that being a non-believer is worse than being a murderer.

Quote
 Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

I enjoy this particular little bit directly telling people to punish those who reject Islam but really there's hundreds of quotes like these in the Qu'ran.


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: Spendulus on August 14, 2016, 01:10:14 PM
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You want to prove to me that muslims are good? THEN GO WIPE OUT ISIS..

I want no but but but stupid excuses.. We are about ready to wipe them out from across the world and you fucks wont even wipe them out in your own back yards..

For me this just about sums it up. 


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: Lethn on August 14, 2016, 01:11:58 PM
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You want to prove to me that muslims are good? THEN GO WIPE OUT ISIS..

I want no but but but stupid excuses.. We are about ready to wipe them out from across the world and you fucks wont even wipe them out in your own back yards..

For me this just about sums it up. 

Even Bill Maher made this point using simple numbers, the surrounding nations in the middle east totally outnumber ISIS and would defeat them in seconds if they all went in at once. Do they do it though? No, they make up bullshit and claim they're too powerful or elusive and ask for America's help.


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: Tyrantt on August 14, 2016, 01:29:43 PM
And after all of thos rules, they still live live savages.


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: BADecker on August 14, 2016, 01:41:46 PM
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You want to prove to me that muslims are good? THEN GO WIPE OUT ISIS..

I want no but but but stupid excuses.. We are about ready to wipe them out from across the world and you fucks wont even wipe them out in your own back yards..

For me this just about sums it up. 

Even Bill Maher made this point using simple numbers, the surrounding nations in the middle east totally outnumber ISIS and would defeat them in seconds if they all went in at once. Do they do it though? No, they make up bullshit and claim they're too powerful or elusive and ask for America's help.

The main reason the U.S. created ISIS is that they needed a distraction from 9/11. People were beginning to see that 9/11 was an inside job. So, government had to show them how bad Islam really was. So they created ISIS to help the people forget that 9/11 was an inside job, and focus in anger and hate on the lie that Islamic Arabs did it.

8)


Title: Re: Islam and stereotypes
Post by: Spendulus on August 14, 2016, 03:43:08 PM
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You want to prove to me that muslims are good? THEN GO WIPE OUT ISIS..

I want no but but but stupid excuses.. We are about ready to wipe them out from across the world and you fucks wont even wipe them out in your own back yards..

For me this just about sums it up. 

Even Bill Maher made this point using simple numbers, the surrounding nations in the middle east totally outnumber ISIS and would defeat them in seconds if they all went in at once. Do they do it though? No, they make up bullshit and claim they're too powerful or elusive and ask for America's help.
I'm certain we could show from the Koran, large numbers of scriptures which showed that a good Muslim must go take up arms and slaughter the ISIS.