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Title: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: Kprawn on August 12, 2016, 08:45:32 PM
So I was watching the Olympics and I was thinking.. if we had to choose a nationality for Satoshi, which would it be and why? Would he, she or they be from the same country or possibly from a

group of countries. Let's debate the merits of Satoshi being a group and not a individual for this debate, it just makes things easier. I know some people have looked at his post history and the time

zone in which he posted and also at his writings, but could this be a collective mind, coming from different countries? Let's discuss.  ;D


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: Deinemama on August 12, 2016, 08:54:50 PM
I would guess extraterrestrial :D


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: odolvlobo on August 12, 2016, 08:56:48 PM
Bitcoin transcends national borders. Satoshi Nakamoto would not belong to any country. He/she/they would be on the Refugee team.

http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/RefugeeFlagTA-1024x768.jpg


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: eddie13 on August 12, 2016, 08:58:00 PM
I think its one man, 70% sure from the UK, 25% chances of japan, 5% chance of else..


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: franky1 on August 12, 2016, 09:04:10 PM
the entity behind the pseudonym satoshi is a single person. by this i mean only one person at a keyboard was typing emails and forum posts in the name of satoshi

.. but that does not mean he worked alone
ofcourse he worked with other people.. hal finney is the big name back then of someone he worked with, amungst others.
they just used their own pseudonyms

as for nationality. though he spoke english. it was more british rather than american, canadian, etc.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: TippingPoint on August 12, 2016, 09:36:15 PM
British or American
The Satoshi Nakamoto name was a deliberate subterfuge.  The Briticisms could have also been a subterfuge, or they could have been real.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: Febo on August 12, 2016, 09:41:17 PM
So I was watching the Olympics and I was thinking.. If Bitcoin would be a country. Who would carry Bitcoin flag and closing ceremony? And why?


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: maydna on August 12, 2016, 09:52:36 PM
he is one person, with have eyes, lips, hair, can write with keyboards. satoshi nakamoto don't want his/her life to discuss, he wants to be in behind of the scene and watching all of this happen.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: European Central Bank on August 12, 2016, 10:10:37 PM
satoshi is a citizen of the internet. someone who invented something like bitcoin would regard nationalities as a quaint throwback.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: unamis76 on August 12, 2016, 11:11:30 PM
*refugee flag*

Good point, a refugee of the internet :D

So I was watching the Olympics and I was thinking.. If Bitcoin would be a country. Who would carry Bitcoin flag and closing ceremony? And why?

This would be impossible, there would need to be a flag representing the citizens of the world...


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: DomainMagnate on August 12, 2016, 11:22:43 PM
I think its one man, 70% sure from the UK, 25% chances of japan, 5% chance of else..
Any chances of his being Afghani? ;D


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: Doamader on August 12, 2016, 11:41:00 PM
I believe he is from the space, because bitcoin isnt from this world, and is slowly making the revolution and returning the power to the people, something banks and governements has nowadays. I dont know really and got no way nakamoto should be japan or chinese, but maybe a person just choosed those to be related to there and not to his or her reall identy.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: raphma on August 13, 2016, 12:45:07 AM
dont know the exactly country but for sure he is asian.  ::)


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: tobacco123 on August 13, 2016, 06:34:58 AM
I heard the English he used was mainly the "British" style, so I bet he must be from one of the Commonwealth countries- Australia is one of them (where Craig was from!).

I think the use of a Japanese name was to add more "mystery" to the identity. Almost all Japanese use the US style of English so I think he is not a Japanese.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: Flodemaga on August 13, 2016, 06:41:59 AM
dont know the exactly country but for sure he is asian.  ::)
What makes yo sure that he is an asian? His Satoshi Nakamoto name? Well provably that can somehow be true but it could also be a screen name and he can totally be from a different country than which where the name satoshi nakamoto originated.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: South Park on August 13, 2016, 06:45:42 AM
Human, and he will be wearing the Vitruvian Man as a Flag


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: beerlover on August 14, 2016, 06:48:11 AM
I believe he is from the space, because bitcoin isnt from this world, and is slowly making the revolution and returning the power to the people, something banks and governements has nowadays. I dont know really and got no way nakamoto should be japan or chinese, but maybe a person just choosed those to be related to there and not to his or her reall identy.
Yeah, I have the same idea too, maybe he’s an alien from outer space or some high-developed civilisation and he came here to help humankind by bringing bitcoin which maybe is from his world to us. It’s just my prediction as I am a true believer of alien life.

In my opinion moon was built by alien to bring human life in earth. Bitcoin may be an modern day witness of alien help.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: losygeyi on August 14, 2016, 06:56:16 AM
Satoshi nakamoto is anonymous there not nationality
the flag nationality in crypto curency leading in the world


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: Strongkored on August 14, 2016, 07:14:21 AM
Satoshi nakamoto is anonymous there not nationality
the flag nationality in crypto curency leading in the world

Yeah, satoshi identity is unknown and therefore nationality was unknown. For me personally it does not really matter, the important thing is that we were lucky to know bitcoin, which he created.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: Babayega31 on August 14, 2016, 07:18:13 AM
Satoshi nakamoto is anonymous there not nationality
the flag nationality in crypto curency leading in the world

Yeah, satoshi identity is unknown and therefore nationality was unknown. For me personally it does not really matter, the important thing is that we were lucky to know bitcoin, which he created.

Satoshi nakamoto's identity is still mysterious and yet no people can reveal who realy he is and i think he would remain his identity anonymous and dont show to humble herself in the crowd, and really the most important thing here is we are more lucky people who got benifited for her works and i am really glad to know bitcoin and yet im earning with it thanks to that guy who made bitcoin :).


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: 20kevin20 on August 14, 2016, 07:19:51 AM
He's anonymous, and nobody knows who he is. I bet he would have been arrested until now if he would have been known by us. He has created a currency Governments can't live with. They want to find him, I'm pretty sure about that!


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: topiOleg on August 14, 2016, 09:44:07 AM
He's anonymous, and nobody knows who he is. I bet he would have been arrested until now if he would have been known by us. He has created a currency Governments can't live with. They want to find him, I'm pretty sure about that!

More likely arrested  for not paying taxes from his million coins stash. Especially if he is really resident from UK or USA as most assume, as these countries have little tolerance when someone dont pay proper taxes. And Satoshi Nakamoto posts suggests he is indeed native english speaker and the Japanese name is just pseudonym.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: Pursuer on August 14, 2016, 09:56:01 AM
satoshi nakamoto's nationality is of blockchain. he lives and dies with bitcoin and blockchain and will always remain anonymous as he intended to stay this way forever.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: countryfree on August 14, 2016, 05:27:35 PM
Satoshi Nakamoto cannot be a refugee. Refugees are poor, and they need to work long hours in difficult conditions to make it, whereas Satoshi Nakamoto must have had a peaceful environment for a long time to think about BTC and to create it. So he was a pretty well-off guy, but who should cares about his damned nationality? His creation doesn't have borders, let's not give him a birthplace to create some sense of location.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: Racey on August 14, 2016, 05:36:12 PM
He's anonymous, and nobody knows who he is. I bet he would have been arrested until now if he would have been known by us. He has created a currency Governments can't live with. They want to find him, I'm pretty sure about that!

More likely arrested  for not paying taxes from his million coins stash. Especially if he is really resident from UK or USA as most assume, as these countries have little tolerance when someone dont pay proper taxes. And Satoshi Nakamoto posts suggests he is indeed native english speaker and the Japanese name is just pseudonym.

If Satoshi is a resident of the UK these rules apply

Quote
For VAT purposes Bitcoin and similar cryptocurrencies will be treated as follows below, this in no way reflects on how they are treated for regulatory or other purposes:

income received from Bitcoin mining activities will generally be outside the scope of VAT on the basis that the activity does not constitute an economic activity for VAT purposes because there is an insufficient link between any services provided and any consideration received
income received by miners for other activities, such as for the provision of services in connection with the verification of specific transactions for which specific charges are made, will be exempt from VAT under Article 135(1)(d) of the EU VAT Directive as falling within the definition of ‘transactions, including negotiation, concerning deposit and current accounts, payments, transfers, debts, cheques and other negotiable instruments’
when Bitcoin is exchanged for Sterling or for foreign currencies, such as Euros or Dollars, no VAT will be due on the value of the Bitcoins themselves
charges (in whatever form) made over and above the value of the Bitcoin for arranging or carrying out any transactions in Bitcoin will be exempt from VAT under Article 135(1)(d) as outlined at 2 above

However, in all instances, VAT will be due in the normal way from suppliers of any goods or services sold in exchange for Bitcoin or other similar cryptocurrency. The value of the supply of goods or services on which VAT is due will be the sterling value of the cryptocurrency at the point the transaction takes place

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/revenue-and-customs-brief-9-2014-bitcoin-and-other-cryptocurrencies/revenue-and-customs-brief-9-2014-bitcoin-and-other-cryptocurrencies


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: jack1111 on August 14, 2016, 05:56:43 PM
The name refers that he is Japanese , but I don't believe that this name is the real name of Bitcoin creator , also I think they are group of people not one person .
maybe Bitcoin in the beginning was useless for the governments , but when the market cap reached 10 Billion Dollars , I think some governments or big financial companies started their own attempts to control Bitcoin or exploit it for their own benifit , so I believe that some governments control by Bitcoin now .


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: coin_gambler on August 14, 2016, 06:02:18 PM
He's anonymous, and nobody knows who he is. I bet he would have been arrested until now if he would have been known by us. He has created a currency Governments can't live with. They want to find him, I'm pretty sure about that!
and no one will know who he is because he wanted to hide himself and he did it perfectly though if i had to take a wild guess i would go with india


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: bitbunnny on August 14, 2016, 06:06:32 PM
Maybe we will never know who he really is. And I guess that is in his best interest not to reveal the true identity. I wouldn't say the exact nationatility but I would say that he is somwhere from Asia.




Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: bias on August 14, 2016, 06:07:54 PM
if Satoshi Nakamoto happened to be Craig am sure we all know his nationality but I think satoshi nakamoto was the collective name of the computer scientistics :) involved in the bitcoin engineering.... there is no nationality involved


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: Kprawn on August 14, 2016, 06:17:32 PM
Let's be creative guys, stop with all the "Bitcoin is borderless" just for this discussion. If he is a human, he or she has to live somewhere... and that puts him or them in a specific area on this planet. I

am convinced that he must be UK or USA but they live everywhere these days.  ::) ... I doubt that it will be CW from Australia, but that is a debate for another thread.  ;) Cmon be creative and give

us the Satoshi group nationality.  ::)


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: zend7 on August 14, 2016, 07:17:06 PM
Satoshi Nakamoto is the nickname of the person who created bitcoin. He wanted to remain anonymous and didn't want a lot of publicity for himself. Let's leave it that way as this was intentionally done by him.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: 0day on August 14, 2016, 07:37:55 PM
The name is a pure Japanese name, so it mean he will be from Japan, as only Japanese like their names to be from Japanese words, none of the other countries' people like their names to be from Japanese. So from the name we can easily find that Satoshi is from Japan.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: n691309 on August 14, 2016, 07:48:01 PM
Bitcoin transcends national borders. Satoshi Nakamoto would not belong to any country. He/she/they would be on the Refugee team.

Athletes that joined the Refugee team comes from somewhere but they are not been choose by their country because of many reasons so they are listed to the Refugee team. I think that he or they are very anonymous for us but someone should know them until now, my opinion is that he/they should be from U.S or from China. But still the Satoshi Nakamoto's identity's mysterious we can only speculate.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: bravehearth0319 on August 14, 2016, 08:54:32 PM
Satoshi nakamoto is anonymous there not nationality
the flag nationality in crypto curency leading in the world

Yeah, satoshi identity is unknown and therefore nationality was unknown. For me personally it does not really matter, the important thing is that we were lucky to know bitcoin, which he created.

its not important whether what he/she's nationality or citizenship is, besides bitcoin became popular or well known without his/her complete information, because the community patronize it so well due its lots of advantages of having it in ourlives. :D


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: QuestionAuthority on August 14, 2016, 09:02:47 PM
I found a picture of Satoshi's house. It's where he wrote Bitcoin.

It's located at 1 Honey Pot Lane, Ft. Meade, Maryland

http://media.komonews.com/images/130606_National_Security_Agency_nsa_building_4.jpg


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: bravehearth0319 on August 14, 2016, 09:03:20 PM
he is one person, with have eyes, lips, hair, can write with keyboards. satoshi nakamoto don't want his/her life to discuss, he wants to be in behind of the scene and watching all of this happen.

All of us here in this forum we know that there is only one person behind who is responsible for this thing and that is Satoshi nakamoto.
I agreed also that this person doesn't want his/her life to discuss, and thats the question really don't know Why? so I think the creator of bitcoin is very simple or low profile person. BUt in my assesment for me he's an asean type of a person. :)


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: MTBTT on August 14, 2016, 09:28:21 PM
He's anonymous, and nobody knows who he is. I bet he would have been arrested until now if he would have been known by us. He has created a currency Governments can't live with. They want to find him, I'm pretty sure about that!
australia how the people who say that he is satoshi Nakamoto? I think it proves that satoshi Nakamoto is not necessarily the Japanese people and he is also not necessarily satoshi Nakamoto. its not clear?


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: fantom1962 on August 21, 2016, 12:21:50 PM
British or American.The Briticisms could have also been a subterfuge, or they could have been real.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: Ryanteck on November 12, 2016, 04:06:48 AM
until now the existence Satoshi Nakamoto is still a mystery, no one knows its origin from which country. but I think that Nakamoto satoshi name comes from Japan? :D


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: Kolder on November 12, 2016, 05:11:16 AM
The name is a pure Japanese name, so it mean he will be from Japan, as only Japanese like their names to be from Japanese words, none of the other countries' people like their names to be from Japanese. So from the name we can easily find that Satoshi is from Japan.

i think so but considering the fact that BTC is not popular as much as in European counrtry, I'm now confused if that name is just an alias so that he might cover his true identity because we all know that BTC has negative feature at the early stage when it developed and release. I think the devs is not careless to choose that name because it is obviously a vulgar name, And as i proof that the dev is not careless on his moves, Until now he is not been identified.  :D


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: anavuajna on November 13, 2016, 01:56:35 PM
The name is a pure Japanese name, so it mean he will be from Japan, as only Japanese like their names to be from Japanese words, none of the other countries' people like their names to be from Japanese. So from the name we can easily find that Satoshi is from Japan.

i think so but considering the fact that BTC is not popular as much as in European counrtry, I'm now confused if that name is just an alias so that he might cover his true identity because we all know that BTC has negative feature at the early stage when it developed and release. I think the devs is not careless to choose that name because it is obviously a vulgar name, And as i proof that the dev is not careless on his moves, Until now he is not been identified.  :D

I think that he is right, that is not public. It is not known how it or they react society. if they decide to be incognito, then it must be respected


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: Cactushrt on November 13, 2016, 03:47:36 PM
I would guess 50% Japanese 40% American and 10% British.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: SparkedDev on November 13, 2016, 05:55:36 PM
From what i understand the person was likely someone who went to school in the usa and has a degree of software engineering and is likely  between 40-56.

Id say the chances it could be someone of Caucasian decent would be a top contender but it could be someone from a pacific island country such as japan.

Also a place someone could have gained a decent amount of income to not want to cash out million of dollars of coins their holding.


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: Oraclefights.com on November 14, 2016, 09:54:16 PM
Japanese 99%


Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - Nationality
Post by: Masha Sha on November 15, 2016, 02:36:22 AM
Why do you want to trouble the peace of the great satoshi? A little bit of nationalism? Goat about like he is from your country? I despise you deeply. I hope you will never find out  :P