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Title: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: grue on March 26, 2013, 02:45:54 AM
Is it possible to make minor changes to an existing Avalon batch 3 order? I placed an order that included a PSU, but I have since learned that it causes issues with customs. Now I want to remove the PSU. (and get the 2 BTC difference).


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: jspielberg on March 26, 2013, 02:51:42 AM
I think this is going to be a popular question.

Also... if the power supply can be deleted/credited, can we get some information on the proper specs for a replacement to mount ourselves.  I imagine the 85G model requires a 750W psu and the 65G model would be 600W (but guessing).  Would there be a certain number/type of connections that would be required?

Thanks!


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: jspielberg on March 26, 2013, 09:35:33 AM
I didn't hear about the power supply could cause a problem with customs.  I opened ticket and asked if I should remove the power supplies from batch 2 and 3 orders.

I don't see anywhere to create a support ticket.  Did you just email Xiangfu directly?  I think many would be interested in doing the same.


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: Bowjob on March 26, 2013, 09:44:41 AM
I'm a batch 2 user.. if removing the PSU will make my shipment any faster, so be it.


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: Rampion on March 26, 2013, 09:45:30 AM
Yep, I didn't see the recommendation about NO PSU, and I ordered mine with it. I don't want problems with customs, thus it would be great if we could update the order to take the PSU out.


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: yxt on March 26, 2013, 09:53:20 AM
Yep, I didn't see the recommendation about NO PSU, and I ordered mine with it. I don't want problems with customs, thus it would be great if we could update the order to take the PSU out.

+1


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: ALToids on March 26, 2013, 10:02:11 AM
Yep, I didn't see the recommendation about NO PSU, and I ordered mine with it. I don't want problems with customs, thus it would be great if we could update the order to take the PSU out.

+2


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: purefusion on March 26, 2013, 10:03:21 AM
Same here...


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: cypherdoc on March 26, 2013, 11:05:09 AM
Is it possible to make minor changes to an existing Avalon batch 3 order? I placed an order that included a PSU, but I have since learned that it causes issues with customs. Now I want to remove the PSU. (and get the 2 BTC difference).

Customs of which country?


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: yxt on March 26, 2013, 11:18:27 AM
my guess: EU --> CE mark, up front Germany  ???


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: Rampion on March 26, 2013, 11:24:49 AM
Is it possible to make minor changes to an existing Avalon batch 3 order? I placed an order that included a PSU, but I have since learned that it causes issues with customs. Now I want to remove the PSU. (and get the 2 BTC difference).

Customs of which country?

I've had a lot of problems with hard drive psu's when shipping goods to Argentina or Brazil. Goods got stock FOREVER in customs, just because of the fu***ng psu's, and I went through a whole lot of problems because of that.

From the other side, I never got problems with customs when receiving items with PSUs to CE countries, but who knows... A PSU is definitely not worth the risk ;)


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: grue on March 26, 2013, 02:05:05 PM
I didn't hear about the power supply could cause a problem with customs.  I opened ticket and asked if I should remove the power supplies from batch 2 and 3 orders.

I don't see anywhere to create a support ticket.  Did you just email Xiangfu directly?  I think many would be interested in doing the same.

http://support.avalon-asic.com/support/login (http://support.avalon-asic.com/support/login)
nice, i opened a support ticket. site said i would get a response in 24 hours.


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: bablovagon on March 26, 2013, 02:20:56 PM
 ;D   my ticket status oн batch#2  = "procceced since last 50 days 19 hrs"


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: Aseras on March 26, 2013, 02:23:44 PM
the tickets are worthless, send yifu an email yifu.guo@avalon-asic.com

he's replied to me within a day every time.


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: bablovagon on March 26, 2013, 03:59:52 PM
the tickets are worthless, send yifu an email yifu.guo@avalon-asic.com

he's replied to me within a day every time.

Thank you. I wrote the letter to Yifu and waiting for an answer.


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: grue on March 26, 2013, 09:54:26 PM
the tickets are worthless, send yifu an email yifu.guo@avalon-asic.com

he's replied to me within a day every time.
thanks, sent him an email as well.


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: laubzega on March 26, 2013, 10:48:20 PM
Please let us all know when you hear from Yifu on this subject. It seems like a common issue.


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: Rampion on March 26, 2013, 10:54:01 PM
Guys, commons sense dictates that for this matter we should be using tickets. There's still time till the units will be shipped, just let's try to use appropiate channels for communications.


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: grue on March 27, 2013, 03:27:45 AM
Guys, commons sense dictates that for this matter we should be using tickets. There's still time till the units will be shipped, just let's try to use appropiate channels for communications.
why not both? :D


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: dogie on March 27, 2013, 03:32:22 AM
Guys, commons sense dictates that for this matter we should be using tickets. There's still time till the units will be shipped, just let's try to use appropiate channels for communications.
why not both? :D

Because then he might just remove components, twice.


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: Rampion on March 27, 2013, 08:34:10 AM
Guys, commons sense dictates that for this matter we should be using tickets. There's still time till the units will be shipped, just let's try to use appropiate channels for communications.
why not both? :D

Because it is not an urgent matter, and you're writing to the direct email of one of the very few people that are running this operation, making him to loose time reading/processing a silly and non-urgent request that can be solved using the appropiate channel: tickets.


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: jspielberg on March 27, 2013, 11:49:12 AM
Guys, commons sense dictates that for this matter we should be using tickets. There's still time till the units will be shipped, just let's try to use appropiate channels for communications.
why not both? :D

Because it is not an urgent matter, and you're writing to the direct email of one of the very few people that are running this operation, making him to loose time reading/processing a silly and non-urgent request that can be solved using the appropiate channel: tickets.

First - I think Yifu Gao seems like a standup guy, and has done a remarkable job.  My guess is he needs to catch up on like 3 weeks of sleep and rightfully so.   There has been quite a bit of nonsense chatter that I think is the result of some ambiguity on small number of points:

1) What are the countries that has issues with the PSU and customs?
2) If so... how do we go about requesting the PSU delete?
3) What are the vendor supported specs for locally procured PSUs for the different models?

Regarding item 1 - I don't think the US is in the list.  Jeff Garzik received his miner a day earlier than was expected (1/31) --- so I don't think it was hung up in some bureaucratic black hole in customs.   My guess is this is not for the U.S. and Russia, but South America, Europe ,Asia and the Middle East that have the customs issues... but again... pure speculation until we hear from the horses mouth.

Regarding item 2 - Anecdotally, we have heard that the ticket system isn't a responsive communication channel, but direct email is... doesn't make one want to do the right thing and use the ticket system.

Regarding item 3 - The website says 620W max draw for the 65GHa model, but doesn't have any statements on the 80GHa model.  One can assume that it is the 620 + 150W of the extra module... but again... deduction and speculation but not authoritative until it comes from the authority.

Maybe I am deluding myself in thinking that if these questions were answered publicly (preferably on their faq page) a lot of the nonsense traffic surrounding B3 would go away... most likely we are going to need something to do while we wait for our units, and like a bunch of mother hens, we will feel the urge to peck at something.



Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: Rampion on March 27, 2013, 12:14:25 PM
Guys, commons sense dictates that for this matter we should be using tickets. There's still time till the units will be shipped, just let's try to use appropiate channels for communications.
why not both? :D

Because it is not an urgent matter, and you're writing to the direct email of one of the very few people that are running this operation, making him to loose time reading/processing a silly and non-urgent request that can be solved using the appropiate channel: tickets.

Regarding item 1 - I don't think the US is in the list.  Jeff Garzik received his miner a day earlier than was expected (1/31) --- so I don't think it was hung up in some bureaucratic black hole in customs.   My guess is this is not for the U.S. and Russia, but South America, Europe ,Asia and the Middle East that have the customs issues... but again... pure speculation until we hear from the horses mouth.


I'm in European Union and I've received a couple of times hard disks together with his power unit (from outside EU), and I never had any problem. Those hard disks came from the USA. On the contrary, I've sent those same hard disks to Argentina and I had a shitload of problems with customs. In fact, they never got out of customs BECAUSE of the psu of the hard disks, and I had to send new hard disks WITHOUT a PSU for them to get through Argentinian customs.

Then, I'm reading about EU customers receiving their batch 1 unit with PSU with no problems at all. But again, this is really a small sample to make any assumptions, it's just my personal experience + a few EU customers of Avalone.


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: grue on March 28, 2013, 02:24:02 PM
has anyone gotten a response from BitSyncom? it's been 2 days and he has not responded to forum PM, email, or tickets.


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: Aseras on March 28, 2013, 07:15:45 PM
has anyone gotten a response from BitSyncom? it's been 2 days and he has not responded to forum PM, email, or tickets.

working as intended i think....


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: grue on April 02, 2013, 01:56:59 AM
has anyone gotten a response from BitSyncom? it's been 2 days and he has not responded to forum PM, email, or tickets.

working as intended i think....
it's now almost a week. :(


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: grue on June 24, 2013, 10:12:20 PM
bump since he's active on forums again.


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: SebastianJu on June 24, 2013, 10:20:34 PM
Guys, commons sense dictates that for this matter we should be using tickets. There's still time till the units will be shipped, just let's try to use appropiate channels for communications.
why not both? :D

Because it is not an urgent matter, and you're writing to the direct email of one of the very few people that are running this operation, making him to loose time reading/processing a silly and non-urgent request that can be solved using the appropiate channel: tickets.

I believe the only person that is doing the support tickets is Yifu anyway. The support ist way to informed that its another way, and judging from the ticketnumbers another person than yifu would be able to answer tickets way faster. I believe Yifu doesnt want to give away that work. I dont understand why, i mean he can delegate work to china too, so why isnt he accepting help with support? Customers would be way happier. And when his supportman doesnt know the answer to all questions then he can ask Yifu and learn. With the time Yifu will have to answer less and less questions.

I never got a response to an email to yifu. I only phoned him and got him the second time.


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: Bitcoinorama on June 24, 2013, 10:33:35 PM
I think UK guys should be ok with PSUs, I've ordered from overseas items with power sources both internal and external without an issue due to the PSU. There were monster delays however, but that occurs with every high ticket item in the UK and it's due to additional money theft from HRMC pulling out duty fees as and when they like from their witch's hat.

It was Canadian customers if I remember right, that had issues with PSUs on this forum...


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: grue on June 25, 2013, 01:28:09 AM
I think UK guys should be ok with PSUs, I've ordered from overseas items with power sources both internal and external without an issue due to the PSU. There were monster delays however, but that occurs with every high ticket item in the UK and it's due to additional money theft from HRMC pulling out duty fees as and when they like from their witch's hat.

It was Canadian customers if I remember right, that had issues with PSUs on this forum...
uh oh, I'm Canadian :(


Title: Re: BitSyncom: Is it possible to make changes to an order (yes/no PSU, # of modules)
Post by: shmadz on June 25, 2013, 01:37:45 AM
It's unfortunate that batch 2 did not have the option of shipping without PSU

has anyone got confirmation of problems with PSU crossing customs, or any clarification/confirmation whether or not it is possible to change an order (remove PSU before shipping?)