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Bitcoin => Mining => Topic started by: phr0stbyt3 on March 26, 2013, 04:35:55 AM



Title: IS THIS SHIT FOR REAL? $10k+ for a pre-order?????
Post by: phr0stbyt3 on March 26, 2013, 04:35:55 AM
For sale:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-BitForce-Single-SC-60-GH-s-Bitcoin-Miner-PRE-ORDER-12218-/140939578692?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d0a74d44
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-BitForce-Single-SC-60-GH-s-Bitcoin-Miner-PRE-ORDER-11914-/140939576571?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d0a744fb

SOLD???
$10,000 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-x-60-GH-s-Bitcoin-Miner-BitForce-Single-SC-ASIC-Butterfly-Labs-Avalon-/230949836348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item35c5aed63c
$12,100 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-x-60-GH-s-Bitcoin-Miner-BitForce-Single-SC-ASIC-Butterfly-Labs-Avalon-/261188628637?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd00e309d
$11,100 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-x-60-GH-s-Bitcoin-Miner-BitForce-Single-SC-ASIC-Butterfly-Labs-Avalon-/230949834281?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item35c5aece29

This has got to be a bunch of scammers or inflators... Right?
Otherwise, WTS #7595 preorder in september lol.

Seriously, what do you make of these?


Title: Re: IS THIS SHIT FOR REAL? $10k+ for a pre-order?????
Post by: relm9 on March 26, 2013, 04:40:21 AM
Either they are fake bidders driving the price up, or are far too hopeful...

I sometimes get the feeling some newcomers to Bitcoin don't understand that the difficulty will exponentially increase.


Title: Re: IS THIS SHIT FOR REAL? $10k+ for a pre-order?????
Post by: Bit_Happy on March 26, 2013, 04:42:03 AM
Insane, no one even knows if they work.


Title: Re: IS THIS SHIT FOR REAL? $10k+ for a pre-order?????
Post by: phr0stbyt3 on March 26, 2013, 04:48:31 AM
Based on what they're going for I'm tempted to put mine up with a really high reserve and see what happens.


Title: Re: IS THIS SHIT FOR REAL? $10k+ for a pre-order?????
Post by: crazyates on March 26, 2013, 05:02:05 AM
These ASICs generate BTC, not USD. I've been saying for a while now, I wouldn't sell my preorders for less than 200BTC, as thats what I can expect to make within a reasonable amount of time. That is independent of the fact that BTC is now ~$75. If BTC was $20, it would still be worth 200BTC.


Title: Re: IS THIS SHIT FOR REAL? $10k+ for a pre-order?????
Post by: gdbutler on March 26, 2013, 05:45:06 AM
That might be a very cheap price if the price of BTC keeps going up at this rate.


Title: Re: IS THIS SHIT FOR REAL? $10k+ for a pre-order?????
Post by: phr0stbyt3 on March 26, 2013, 03:38:34 PM
ASICs generate BTC? News to me.


Title: Re: IS THIS SHIT FOR REAL? $10k+ for a pre-order?????
Post by: PatMan on March 28, 2013, 10:40:55 AM
Checkout the bidders - pure fake. Makes you wonder eh?


Title: Re: IS THIS SHIT FOR REAL? $10k+ for a pre-order?????
Post by: ziomik on March 28, 2013, 07:46:54 PM
My order is higher and I purchased before him
Superscam  :o 8)


Title: Re: IS THIS SHIT FOR REAL? $10k+ for a pre-order?????
Post by: mitty on March 28, 2013, 09:40:26 PM
11914 ($14k) and 12218 ($12.1k) were my auctions, and the winning bidder never got back to me.  I don't know why someone's trying to prevent these from selling, but it's somewhat annoying.


Title: Re: IS THIS SHIT FOR REAL? $10k+ for a pre-order?????
Post by: zvs on March 29, 2013, 05:05:59 PM
These ASICs generate BTC, not USD. I've been saying for a while now, I wouldn't sell my preorders for less than 200BTC, as thats what I can expect to make within a reasonable amount of time. That is independent of the fact that BTC is now ~$75. If BTC was $20, it would still be worth 200BTC.

this is bizarre reasoning to me, but maybe it makes sense to people that grew up with some million dollar trust fund


Title: Re: IS THIS SHIT FOR REAL? $10k+ for a pre-order?????
Post by: crazyates on March 30, 2013, 01:37:27 AM
These ASICs generate BTC, not USD. I've been saying for a while now, I wouldn't sell my preorders for less than 200BTC, as thats what I can expect to make within a reasonable amount of time. That is independent of the fact that BTC is now ~$75. If BTC was $20, it would still be worth 200BTC.
this is bizarre reasoning to me, but maybe it makes sense to people that grew up with some million dollar trust fund
LOL I don't have a million dollar trust fund, or anywhere close to it! I'm 24, trying to pay off student loans, and looking at buying my first house. I eat PB&Js for lunch cuz they're cheap. However, there is some financial reasoning here, even if you don't see it:

These are expected to earn BTC. At today's difficulty, that's ~4.5BTC/day. If the price was $10, that's on $45/day. With the price currently at $89, that's $400/day. Can you see how the increase in the price of BTC affects the increase of the price of these hardware pre-orders?

If you don't understand this, I will gladly buy your early-date pre-order for what you paid for it: $1300.


Title: Re: IS THIS SHIT FOR REAL? $10k+ for a pre-order?????
Post by: PulsedMedia on April 01, 2013, 10:36:24 AM
lol, if they went at that rate really, i'd have no problem of selling my july & august preorders :)


Title: Re: IS THIS SHIT FOR REAL? $10k+ for a pre-order?????
Post by: PachucoBro on April 04, 2013, 07:49:42 PM
These are expected to earn BTC. At today's difficulty, that's ~4.5BTC/day. If the price was $10, that's on $45/day. With the price currently at $89, that's $400/day. Can you see how the increase in the price of BTC affects the increase of the price of these hardware pre-orders?

If you don't understand this, I will gladly buy your early-date pre-order for what you paid for it: $1300.

The price of BTC will fluctuate so if you buy a rig that mines 4.5BTC/day and the price of BTC falls to $30... Can you see how the price of BTC makes paying $10,000 USD today for a machine you MIGHT get 3-6 months from now a real losing idea.

If you don't understand this, I will gladly sell you MY early-date pre-order for what I DIDN'T pay for it: $500. ... and I will give you the same assurances all the eBayers give you like a nifty .jpg of some invoice for $1,300.


Title: Re: IS THIS SHIT FOR REAL? $10k+ for a pre-order?????
Post by: phr0stbyt3 on April 05, 2013, 05:13:39 AM
These are expected to earn BTC. At today's difficulty, that's ~4.5BTC/day. If the price was $10, that's on $45/day. With the price currently at $89, that's $400/day. Can you see how the increase in the price of BTC affects the increase of the price of these hardware pre-orders?

If you don't understand this, I will gladly buy your early-date pre-order for what you paid for it: $1300.

The price of BTC will fluctuate so if you buy a rig that mines 4.5BTC/day and the price of BTC falls to $30... Can you see how the price of BTC makes paying $10,000 USD today for a machine you MIGHT get 3-6 months from now a real losing idea.

If you don't understand this, I will gladly sell you MY early-date pre-order for what I DIDN'T pay for it: $500. ... and I will give you the same assurances all the eBayers give you like a nifty .jpg of some invoice for $1,300.

I'm glad this thread is still going. I'm sure you'll notice that today BFL announced a price doubling of all their units. Discuss.