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Title: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: cbreum on August 19, 2016, 04:09:31 PM
http://rimbit.com/threads/bloomberg-confirms-what-rimbit-has-been-saying-bitcoin%E2%80%99s-fate-hinges-on-huge-chinese-miners.5944/#post-12998

That's why Rimbit is the better crypto!


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLNAsYoan3nosdkF6Svp9Aw


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: unamis76 on August 19, 2016, 05:03:54 PM
Numbers on the Bloomberg article aren't really exact. So why is Rimbit better? Haven't heard of it yet.


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: Doamader on August 19, 2016, 05:12:30 PM
We have several big companies located at china, and they have a lot of the total hash but saying they control bitcoin isnt the right thing, the early adopters has a word to say, and there are people with a good ammount of bitcoins not sold yet.


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: 20kevin20 on August 19, 2016, 05:14:44 PM
I don't really think BTC is being controlled by China. The price doesn't change only because of the companies that got most of the hash power. We are a good factor for the price, although we don't have much in our wallets. Everyone selling except the Chinese miners would bring BTC down really easy and fast.


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: coindancer on August 19, 2016, 05:17:15 PM
what would be so bad if this would be true? don't they have an interest in a high price?


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: MingLee on August 19, 2016, 05:21:49 PM
http://rimbit.com/threads/bloomberg-confirms-what-rimbit-has-been-saying-bitcoin%E2%80%99s-fate-hinges-on-huge-chinese-miners.5944/#post-12998

That's why Rimbit is the better crypto!


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLNAsYoan3nosdkF6Svp9Aw

Bitcoin's fate hinges on Chinese miners as long as they remain relevant, if the community really cares they would be able to ignore the miners and fork off to whatever they want to and just have to deal with less hashing power. The Chinese miners are only important as long as they stay on the same chain. Even if they are constantly relevant and nothing changes, it still doesn't matter as to what the miner's nationality is. Why do you care?

Also the shameless plug for Rimbit makes me less interested. I don't want some other shitty crypto.


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: Kprawn on August 19, 2016, 06:48:09 PM
http://rimbit.com/threads/bloomberg-confirms-what-rimbit-has-been-saying-bitcoin%E2%80%99s-fate-hinges-on-huge-chinese-miners.5944/#post-12998

That's why Rimbit is the better crypto!


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLNAsYoan3nosdkF6Svp9Aw

Bitcoin's fate hinges on Chinese miners as long as they remain relevant, if the community really cares they would be able to ignore the miners and fork off to whatever they want to and just have to deal with less hashing power. The Chinese miners are only important as long as they stay on the same chain. Even if they are constantly relevant and nothing changes, it still doesn't matter as to what the miner's nationality is. Why do you care?

Also the shameless plug for Rimbit makes me less interested. I don't want some other shitty crypto.

What stops them from switching to any new fork? They have enough hashing power to mine on different forks at the same time.. if it was needed.  ;) .... I really do not know why people are so

obsessed with the Chinese miners. They have seen a opportunity to make money, and they grabbed it by the horns. There are enough money in the Western world to start massive mining operations,

but investors would rather open up another Mall.  ::) Silicon Valley have enough skills for the manufacturing of the Asic chips needed to do this.  ;)


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: Tacalt on August 19, 2016, 06:51:21 PM
Aren't Alts even easier to "control" then Bitcoin?  ::)


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: coindancer on August 20, 2016, 10:16:34 AM
so i guess this was another FUD post then, since nobody is in panic. which is the reaction i think is right.


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: bitcointank on August 20, 2016, 10:20:29 AM
It is the truth, China controls main hashrate and the price, remember 2013 btc huge pump?? Actually the price was pumped by a Chinese group, happened in Huobi and OKcoin.


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: franky1 on August 20, 2016, 10:37:55 AM
whenever i see a 'financial' news service try to scare people away from a sound investment.. its a good time to buy

whenever i see a 'financial' news service try to  oversell and get excited about a sound investment.. its too late to buy, as the positives have already been taken advantage of.. days, weeks or months ago.

so in my eyes.. bad news from bloomberg is good news for me


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: bitsoldiers on August 20, 2016, 10:42:34 AM
this caught me by surprise,though hearing this for the first time....?


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: BTCLovingDude on August 20, 2016, 10:52:43 AM
http://rimbit.com/threads/bloomberg-confirms-what-rimbit-has-been-saying-bitcoin%E2%80%99s-fate-hinges-on-huge-chinese-miners.5944/#post-12998
That's why Rimbit is the better crypto!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLNAsYoan3nosdkF6Svp9Aw

everybody thinks the altcoin they are bag-holding themselves is the best thing in the world and will replace bitcoin, this has been the way for many years. each year you hear about a new coin coming out that thinks they are the one true coin to replace them all lol.
but after a while you see them all die after the pump and dump period ended.

whenever i see a 'financial' news service try to scare people away from a sound investment.. its a good time to buy

whenever i see a 'financial' news service try to  oversell and get excited about a sound investment.. its too late to buy, as the positives have already been taken advantage of.. days, weeks or months ago.

so in my eyes.. bad news from bloomberg is good news for me

i couldn't agree more.


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: sempak on August 20, 2016, 10:55:55 AM
I suppose it could happen. miners from china very much at all. they can do it all with ease.
their strength is in the number of miner.


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: franky1 on August 20, 2016, 11:00:45 AM
everybody thinks the altcoin they are bag-holding themselves is the best thing in the world and will replace bitcoin, this has been the way for many years. each year you hear about a new coin coming out that thinks they are the one true coin to replace them all lol.
but after a while you see them all die after the pump and dump period ended.

edited my quote for reference to your reply
whenever i see altcoiners try to oversell and get excited about a sound investment.. its too late to buy, as the positives have already been taken advantage of.. days, weeks or months ago.(pump already happened. and now preparing for the dump where the prepared investors are getting out)


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: Pierre 2 on August 20, 2016, 11:07:09 AM
Control is very complicated word.
Do they have power to manipulate, maybe yes?
But total control is too different. And everyone knows chinese do not have total control.


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: franky1 on August 20, 2016, 11:17:03 AM
Control is very complicated word.
Do they have power to manipulate, maybe yes?
But total control is too different. And everyone knows chinese do not have total control.

no one was crying when america had over 70% of the network hash power, where only a couple years ago, it was either ATI(majority) or intel(minority) supplying that american demand.
thats because the racial biased mindset imagines america as free independant people. but sees asians as all 1billion people stuck together working in just one sweatshop with a tyranical manager whipping them into action. (complete opposite of the reality in china)

so to me the whole 'china is bad' mindset is actually racial not logical


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: davis196 on August 20, 2016, 11:39:08 AM
http://rimbit.com/threads/bloomberg-confirms-what-rimbit-has-been-saying-bitcoin%E2%80%99s-fate-hinges-on-huge-chinese-miners.5944/#post-12998

That's why Rimbit is the better crypto!


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLNAsYoan3nosdkF6Svp9Aw


I guess this is another "bitcoin is dying" thread.

Mining bitcoins in China is cheaper and therefore more effective/profitable i guess.

What`s the problem with chinese miners?


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: cbreum on August 20, 2016, 03:37:50 PM
Numbers on the Bloomberg article aren't really exact. So why is Rimbit better? Haven't heard of it yet.

You should look them up at www.rimbit.com and see on IGG https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/rimbit-crypto-development-bitcoin#/

Buy before the price hits $5


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: cbreum on August 20, 2016, 03:38:49 PM
I don't really think BTC is being controlled by China. The price doesn't change only because of the companies that got most of the hash power. We are a good factor for the price, although we don't have much in our wallets. Everyone selling except the Chinese miners would bring BTC down really easy and fast.
It's okay to be naive....


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: cbreum on August 20, 2016, 03:41:03 PM
http://rimbit.com/threads/bloomberg-confirms-what-rimbit-has-been-saying-bitcoin%E2%80%99s-fate-hinges-on-huge-chinese-miners.5944/#post-12998

That's why Rimbit is the better crypto!


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLNAsYoan3nosdkF6Svp9Aw

Bitcoin's fate hinges on Chinese miners as long as they remain relevant, if the community really cares they would be able to ignore the miners and fork off to whatever they want to and just have to deal with less hashing power. The Chinese miners are only important as long as they stay on the same chain. Even if they are constantly relevant and nothing changes, it still doesn't matter as to what the miner's nationality is. Why do you care?

Also the shameless plug for Rimbit makes me less interested. I don't want some other shitty crypto.

What stops them from switching to any new fork? They have enough hashing power to mine on different forks at the same time.. if it was needed.  ;) .... I really do not know why people are so

obsessed with the Chinese miners. They have seen a opportunity to make money, and they grabbed it by the horns. There are enough money in the Western world to start massive mining operations,

but investors would rather open up another Mall.  ::) Silicon Valley have enough skills for the manufacturing of the Asic chips needed to do this.  ;)

You never know about China....suddenly the government can choose to close all mining factories...you simply don't know.


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: cbreum on August 20, 2016, 03:43:10 PM
Control is very complicated word.
Do they have power to manipulate, maybe yes?
But total control is too different. And everyone knows chinese do not have total control.

no one was crying when america had over 70% of the network hash power, where only a couple years ago, it was either ATI(majority) or intel(minority) supplying that american demand.
thats because the racial biased mindset imagines america as free independant people. but sees asians as all 1billion people stuck together working in just one sweatshop with a tyranical manager whipping them into action. (complete opposite of the reality in china)

so to me the whole 'china is bad' mindset is actually racial not logical

America is a democracy (in some sense), China is a dictatorship....They can choose to end all tomorrow if they want.


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: Ayers on August 20, 2016, 03:48:27 PM
Control is very complicated word.
Do they have power to manipulate, maybe yes?
But total control is too different. And everyone knows chinese do not have total control.

no one was crying when america had over 70% of the network hash power, where only a couple years ago, it was either ATI(majority) or intel(minority) supplying that american demand.
thats because the racial biased mindset imagines america as free independant people. but sees asians as all 1billion people stuck together working in just one sweatshop with a tyranical manager whipping them into action. (complete opposite of the reality in china)

so to me the whole 'china is bad' mindset is actually racial not logical

America is a democracy (in some sense), China is a dictatorship....They can choose to end all tomorrow if they want.

"if they want" if they are stupid because ending all now mean for them losing a big portion of money, only a stupid would do it lol, and this is also explain why there are fake volume on some chinese exchange, they care only about profit


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: Herbert2020 on August 20, 2016, 04:17:22 PM
Control is very complicated word.
Do they have power to manipulate, maybe yes?
But total control is too different. And everyone knows chinese do not have total control.

no one was crying when america had over 70% of the network hash power, where only a couple years ago, it was either ATI(majority) or intel(minority) supplying that american demand.
thats because the racial biased mindset imagines america as free independant people. but sees asians as all 1billion people stuck together working in just one sweatshop with a tyranical manager whipping them into action. (complete opposite of the reality in china)

so to me the whole 'china is bad' mindset is actually racial not logical

America is a democracy (in some sense), China is a dictatorship....They can choose to end all tomorrow if they want.

ifs and buts aren't good arguments.
what franky1 said is the first thing that always comes to my mind whenever i hear people talk about China and controlling bitcoin!
the same thing can happen if any of the countries had the big hash rate, nobody was saying NSA will take over bitcoin and end tomorrow when GHash.IO had more than 51% of the network.


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: Kprawn on August 20, 2016, 05:55:20 PM
Control is very complicated word.
Do they have power to manipulate, maybe yes?
But total control is too different. And everyone knows chinese do not have total control.

no one was crying when america had over 70% of the network hash power, where only a couple years ago, it was either ATI(majority) or intel(minority) supplying that american demand.
thats because the racial biased mindset imagines america as free independant people. but sees asians as all 1billion people stuck together working in just one sweatshop with a tyranical manager whipping them into action. (complete opposite of the reality in china)

so to me the whole 'china is bad' mindset is actually racial not logical

I agree with you, but you have to add a bit of arrogance to these statements too... There are a perception amongst some Americans that they are the superior beings, and the rest are just a

bunch of illiterate mongrels. It unfortunately takes events like Pearl Harbor and 9/11 to make them see, that inferior nations can out smart them, with 12 people.  ??? I am not saying this, to be

controversial, but it's the sad truth. Their arrogance sometimes cost them innocent lives. I have loads of American friends, and even they acknowledge this.  ;)


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: calkob on August 20, 2016, 06:39:50 PM
hahahahaha rimbit  :D


Title: Re: Chinese miners controls Bitcoin Bloomberg Confirms!
Post by: Hofer on August 21, 2016, 04:34:18 PM
Control is very complicated word.
Do they have power to manipulate, maybe yes?
But total control is too different. And everyone knows chinese do not have total control.

no one was crying when america had over 70% of the network hash power, where only a couple years ago, it was either ATI(majority) or intel(minority) supplying that american demand.
thats because the racial biased mindset imagines america as free independant people. but sees asians as all 1billion people stuck together working in just one sweatshop with a tyranical manager whipping them into action. (complete opposite of the reality in china)

so to me the whole 'china is bad' mindset is actually racial not logical

I agree with you, but you have to add a bit of arrogance to these statements too... There are a perception amongst some Americans that they are the superior beings, and the rest are just a

bunch of illiterate mongrels. It unfortunately takes events like Pearl Harbor and 9/11 to make them see, that inferior nations can out smart them, with 12 people.  ??? I am not saying this, to be

controversial, but it's the sad truth. Their arrogance sometimes cost them innocent lives. I have loads of American friends, and even they acknowledge this.  ;)

It's not that China is bad, its that the Fact that they control it. It has nothing to do with where the mining companies are based, its the fact that the mining companies, which so happen to be based in China are the ones who can control Bitcoin. It's not decentralized. Mining has become to difficult for an avid computer user, it now costs upwards of 10k USD to make a profit. I find it funny that you're Bitcoin is supreme and nothing can beat it. It may have been the first Cryptocurrency, but that just means that other Cryptocurrencies have had the chance to learn and adapt to create a better currency. For instance, Rimbit is a pre-mined coin, and your immediate thought is "SCAM". However, with the right people in charge, its a viable and reasonable way to spread a currency and keep it as decentralized as possible. If you're willing to do research go to www.Rimbit.com