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Title: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: Btcforall on August 19, 2016, 09:50:52 PM
Not sure if this is the right section to post this but I just noticed HybridMixer.com official thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589308.0 and there signature thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589310.0 both got locked suddenly after few members raised some questions about their services.Are they scammers/ponzi and run away because they got caught or what?


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on August 19, 2016, 10:28:33 PM
I would be careful with a mixing service that is new with no reputation yet. You can always do it yourself using Monero to anonymize your bitcoin (https://bitcoinnewsmagazine.com/how-to-use-monero-to-anonymize-bitcoin/).


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: BitMaxz on August 19, 2016, 10:34:16 PM
This is my first time to heard this mixer.. If this is new dont always put your all money in risk. better to go in legit mixer or old one with already reputation here in our forum than newly mixer that you can not know if its legit or not..


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: Xanidas on August 20, 2016, 01:34:54 AM
I have some doubts about their mixing service. They offer investment in their site and they promise big return after xx days and they only have 1% fee (0% promo for now)


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: ultrloa on August 20, 2016, 03:42:18 AM
That site has shaddy reputation since the dev is unresponsive and the his domain is just for 1 year prolong only, and look at what happen to his thread now it is lock since their so mamy inquiries and bad feedback he receive from the people who try his service offered, and i think the sig campaign he establish is just intend for free advertising and i think that site would never last for 1 week or even 2 weeks since for what i've seen their main agenda is to run a ponzi scam service.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: arwin100 on August 20, 2016, 03:48:59 AM
Better be carefull for new mixing service since we never know if they are legit company since they dont have legit reputation on running of those site luckily many people get doubts and their modus has been busted maybe they are affiliate with liqui exchange its because the address generated by this site cames from laiskylone with liqui sig in his space.

after i posting my review


the thread locked by owner, this is just my opinion who the ownere of hybridmixer :
i want to mix my coin, then run mixing, but after i click mixing i see this address
142eYw6oSukSBaBvmtf6vUsDk5gvzAGTLW
proof/screenshoot : https://s4.postimg.io/f3qowh4p9/qweq1111.jpg

then i searching more detail about this address im using google + blocktrail i find this :
https://www.google.com/?client=firefox-b#q=142eYw6oSukSBaBvmtf6vUsDk5gvzAGTLW
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/142eYw6oSukSBaBvmtf6vUsDk5gvzAGTLW/links

the address posted at bitcointalk by   laiyskylone (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=387329) at here :
16 days ago
1000 BTC GIVEAWAY! From your friend rekcahxfb
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1574127.msg15808238#msg15808238

then i posted my review at here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589308.msg15972805#msg15972805

now laiyskylone delete his posting but he don't know i archieve it
see this archieve :
https://web.archive.org/web/20160819123733/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1574127.msg15808238#msg15808238

so i think laiyskylone is the owner of hybridmixer because he delete his posted address for eliminating the tracks.
Thanks


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: StarofBTC on August 20, 2016, 03:57:32 AM
I have some doubts about their mixing service. They offer investment in their site and they promise big return after xx days and they only have 1% fee (0% promo for now)
exactly the same thing I've noticed too. this is an obvious ponzi scheme, this is not the way to start a business, they are so unprofessional which make them even more shady.
the bitcointalk manager is very unresponsive, and one more thing the site have no contact information.. what does this mean?


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: swogerino on August 20, 2016, 04:34:15 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if it did in fact turn out to be a ponzi scheme.
With all the hype with 10% add-ons to your mix and the signature campaign paying that much to 100 members...
You can see it collapsing soon if they pay out their members.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: senyorito123 on August 20, 2016, 05:08:25 AM
I have some doubts about their mixing service. They offer investment in their site and they promise big return after xx days and they only have 1% fee (0% promo for now)
exactly the same thing I've noticed too. this is an obvious ponzi scheme, this is not the way to start a business, they are so unprofessional which make them even more shady.
the bitcointalk manager is very unresponsive, and one more thing the site have no contact information.. what does this mean?

for wanting a 100 participants in their campaign are bit shaddy and how could they pay such a huge amount of money while they are just starting up business, and the owner cannot produce sign message to their reserve btc as proof that they are legitimate business so thats the reason that we might gonna call them ponzi and we must be aware for this next time since there using some service and sig campaigns just to do scam,


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: Gohs on August 20, 2016, 05:27:34 AM
I checked their website, there were some grammatical errors there. I had a hard time understanding what they actually meant - this does not show professionalism.

The site does not have a SSL certificate - whatever is sent to and from the site can be intercepted by anyone. How safe is that? 


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: Btcforall on August 20, 2016, 09:06:35 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if it did in fact turn out to be a ponzi scheme.
With all the hype with 10% add-ons to your mix and the signature campaign paying that much to 100 members...
You can see it collapsing soon if they pay out their members.
I doubt if they will pay.They haven't escrowed the funds and were asking participants to provide Luqui.io address for payment


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: Skyripper on August 22, 2016, 09:45:41 PM
If you known any from HybridMixer.com addresses (BTC, LTC, DOGE, ETH & PPC), please post it here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1593764), please.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: BitHodler on August 23, 2016, 08:26:46 AM
I checked their website, there were some grammatical errors there. I had a hard time understanding what they actually meant - this does not show professionalism.

The site does not have a SSL certificate - whatever is sent to and from the site can be intercepted by anyone. How safe is that? 
These are indeed basic things that can raise red flags when it comes to certain services, but you can't avoid seeing people still use them as they just blindly send their coins there.

Is it even possible to contact google and have them removed from their search engine? I think with enough proof it must be doable.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: Sharma on August 23, 2016, 09:35:07 AM
I applied for their signature campaign and got accepted with a message from owner that I must give their mixer a try and post my experience with them and share screnshots. I got dubious and asked him to give some time,luckily for me, their true color come out before I send coins to them.I am glad I didn't wear their signature for even a second :D


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: pcoin on August 23, 2016, 12:01:31 PM
I applied for their signature campaign and got accepted with a message from owner that I must give their mixer a try and post my experience with them and share screnshots. I got dubious and asked him to give some time,luckily for me, their true color come out before I send coins to them.I am glad I didn't wear their signature for even a second :D
You are very correct i got similar pm from the op when i was accepted promising me 10% of my mixed coin and 1 ltc but i was as lucky as you are.
They are pure scam site, dont mix your coin there.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: mobnepal on August 23, 2016, 02:40:06 PM
It was quite suspicious for me when i look at their signature campaign they have opened it for 100 participants as well as high daily post limit. And in the next day of their opening, thankfully they got caught as being scammer.
And luckly i haven't tried their service for review, and hope not many have lost when trying to give them review.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: squatz1 on August 23, 2016, 05:05:24 PM
And look at that, the site is completely down it's wonderful to see them running away with whatever money they were able to get....


They did get some money right? That's how all ponzis work.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: swogerino on August 23, 2016, 05:41:20 PM
Their campaign was not looking so good from the very start letting newbies apply and not moderating who got in or not. Along with the 100 participants is too many members to let in a campaign in the first place all at the same time. Just free advertising for the short amount of time their site was up until it ended. :-\


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: lightyard12 on August 24, 2016, 12:26:58 AM
How is Hybridmixer a ponzi? There's no fixed claims of return on their site.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: arwin100 on August 24, 2016, 02:29:42 AM
Their campaign was not looking so good from the very start letting newbies apply and not moderating who got in or not. Along with the 100 participants is too many members to let in a campaign in the first place all at the same time. Just free advertising for the short amount of time their site was up until it ended. :-\

No indicate really at the first place that they only wants free advertising and luckily these ponzi site has been busted already, they cannot pay the 100 participants im every week of rolling for that campaign because it cannot generate immediately a revenue for just short period of time, thats why at the first place im wondering and doubting that they will pay.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: Herbert2020 on August 24, 2016, 05:38:21 AM
How is Hybridmixer a ponzi? There's no fixed claims of return on their site.

the correct term for it is scam, because they are running a fake mixer which you can read the explanation in this topic and also in this feedback on the last page of their topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589308.msg15972805#msg15972805
and also it is clear now since the owner has ran away and there is no response from him.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: bapparabi on August 24, 2016, 10:20:40 AM
now a day its quite difficult for newbee to find out who is scam and how is not due the graphic and otehr thing they mention in there site ..but if you have around this topic and scam then you have idea and can differentiate 


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: CrimBit on August 24, 2016, 04:02:37 PM
i think hybridmixer.com is purely scam mixer, my friend join hybrid promotion he never get his mixer and bonus, and now the manager leaving bitcointalk, and close the fake campaign


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: arwin100 on August 25, 2016, 05:20:45 AM
How is Hybridmixer a ponzi? There's no fixed claims of return on their site.

the correct term for it is scam, because they are running a fake mixer which you can read the explanation in this topic and also in this feedback on the last page of their topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589308.msg15972805#msg15972805
and also it is clear now since the owner has ran away and there is no response from him.

So better next time we must think advance and expect the unexpected this mixing scam site is never happen before or shall we say i miss something here who goes first, so by next time we just try the new came site just because of couriousity since scammers now are updated to make some new scamming ideas that they can apply just to scam people.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: shinratensei_ on August 25, 2016, 06:31:11 AM
i think hybridmixer.com is purely scam mixer, my friend join hybrid promotion he never get his mixer and bonus, and now the manager leaving bitcointalk, and close the fake campaign
Who mixing or putting their money into hybrid will never get returned because of their promotion just for lure a victim is interesting for a collect prize from their promotion. And same with my friend wanna to collect the prizes and the ending he is got a scam by hybrid.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: rphk on August 25, 2016, 06:34:33 AM
hybrid kind of thing always not legit one , and also you mentioned they are locking the account for the users who is rising concerns which shows that site i snot legit and may kind of scam thing . be careful such kind of sites, do not invest in those sites , best is to some research before joining and investing any sites .


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: SANALIU on August 25, 2016, 08:38:51 AM
hybridmixer not ponzy sheceme, hibridmixer only mixer coin
but is owner hibrid mixer is run, not paid clien not paid signature campaign
this mean hybridmixer is scam don't use service hybridmixer


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: Pursuer on August 25, 2016, 10:48:20 AM
hybrid kind of thing always not legit one , and also you mentioned they are locking the account for the users who is rising concerns which shows that site i snot legit and may kind of scam thing . be careful such kind of sites, do not invest in those sites , best is to some research before joining and investing any sites .
the hybrid name have nothing to do with the owner's scamming behaviour,don't generalize,and hybridmixer is definitely not an investing site actually because it's a mixer but lure people to try the mixing service in order to get people's money and then scamming,they also opening a fake invest plan but i guess luring people to try mixing is their first plan

it is all about the luring part.

they buy a cheap domain and hosting plan and start the site then started advertising for free on this forum in form of announcement of new mixer and showed some fake promotional "test our service and be rewarded" and to maximize the scam they start a new signature campaign with tempting rates and even fool their participants to join in that promotional "test our service and be rewarded"!

a legit service like cryptomixer (my current signature) has done a similar "test our service" promotion but they paid the users before so they can test the mixer with that amount and keep it after mixing and leave a review. the difference is huge and clear.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: zend7 on August 25, 2016, 05:05:25 PM
The person managing their campaign was a Russian. Nothing bad about being a Russian but he couldn't  speak English and many members were not getting responses for their problems. Their signature campaign already failed after only 2-3 days. You can always use bitmixer or cryptomixer which are both established bitcoin mixers. I think the forum has come to agree that they are scam and to be avoided.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: Hazir on August 25, 2016, 05:32:18 PM
The person managing their campaign was a Russian. Nothing bad about being a Russian but he couldn't  speak English and many members were not getting responses for their problems. Their signature campaign already failed after only 2-3 days. You can always use bitmixer or cryptomixer which are both established bitcoin mixers. I think the forum has come to agree that they are scam and to be avoided.
What is rather surprising for me is that our forum vigilant default trust unit, usually so eager to mark even slightly suspicious behavior, did not tag these guys?
At this time I think their clearly maleficent intent is obvious.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: anama on August 25, 2016, 05:52:16 PM
hybiridmixer is bad not investment not ponzy
but is system same is site invetment pozny run only 2-3 day after launcn  in scam and run money client
promote signature campaign is can get client, and get bitcoin after get bitcoin is thread annoucment and thread signature campaign is lock and run money client


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: zenitzz on August 25, 2016, 07:56:33 PM
yes gotta be careful with blending services are still new because they have not got a reputation so do not use their services for a huge amount.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: Supercrypt on August 26, 2016, 08:07:01 AM
hybiridmixer is bad not investment not ponzy
A bitcoin mixing services is not an investment opportunity. But they tried to run a ponzi scheme in the name of bitcoin mixing services.

but is system same is site invetment pozny run only 2-3 day after launcn  in scam and run money client
promote signature campaign is can get client, and get bitcoin after get bitcoin is thread annoucment and thread signature campaign is lock and run money client
If we did not force them to follow few steps then they might have been running till today. I was the one among many early protestors (see here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589308.msg15961568#msg15961568)) to ask for some proof for their legitimate. Still many folks ignored the warning (refused to read the posts) and got themselves into traps.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: Gahs on August 26, 2016, 02:15:50 PM
I just hope they were not able to disappear with some people's bitcoins before the forum finally kicked them out. I still see some users campaigning for them, don't know if they are being paid secretly.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: satmas on August 27, 2016, 07:55:21 PM
I just hope they were not able to disappear with some people's bitcoins before the forum finally kicked them out. I still see some users campaigning for them, don't know if they are being paid secretly.
DarkStar apparently got scammed for 0.1 bitcoin in the other HybridMixer thread. I'd have to find it though.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: Sharma on August 27, 2016, 10:20:23 PM
now a day its quite difficult for newbee to find out who is scam and how is not due the graphic and otehr thing they mention in there site ..but if you have around this topic and scam then you have idea and can differentiate 
Not just newbies even pro find it hard to find which one is ponzi and which is not.Havent you checked their signature campaign?There were no spot for newbies


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: asriloni on August 27, 2016, 11:02:00 PM
now a day its quite difficult for newbee to find out who is scam and how is not due the graphic and otehr thing they mention in there site ..but if you have around this topic and scam then you have idea and can differentiate 
Not just newbies even pro find it hard to find which one is ponzi and which is not.Havent you checked their signature campaign?There were no spot for newbies
actually it is quite easy to figure out whether the website is Ponzi or not,just see if they're having an investment plan which gives you profit quite big and periodically everyday,and you think it's just seems to good to be true then just conclude that it's Ponzi,this one just works almost always when I just trying to figure out whether the website Ponzi or not


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: Sweetbtc on August 29, 2016, 02:30:13 PM
now a day its quite difficult for newbee to find out who is scam and how is not due the graphic and otehr thing they mention in there site ..but if you have around this topic and scam then you have idea and can differentiate 

Bitcoin Mixer services are few and they dont scam. About HybridMixer.com i cant say that it is legit as a few people complaint that it is not paying these days. So you can avoid this site.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: Herbert2020 on August 29, 2016, 03:43:08 PM
now a day its quite difficult for newbee to find out who is scam and how is not due the graphic and otehr thing they mention in there site ..but if you have around this topic and scam then you have idea and can differentiate 

Bitcoin Mixer services are few and they dont scam. About HybridMixer.com i cant say that it is legit as a few people complaint that it is not paying these days. So you can avoid this site.

it is not really that complicated to see hybridmixer is a scam even from the start of it! i don't see why you seem to be unsure.

and it is always easy to detect the scams even in the beginning. there are always signs. a new business (only a website to be fair not a business) that has started only a few days and is offering a big amount of reward for signature campaign and for testing their site + refusing to use escrow!
what more sign of scam do you want?


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: Skyripper on October 27, 2016, 09:46:28 PM
Scammer was unmasked: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1593764.msg16697211#msg16697211.


Title: Re: HybridMixer.com Ponzi?
Post by: ninobtcx on October 28, 2016, 01:33:29 PM
all sites like this are ponzi