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Title: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: sunnankar on March 26, 2013, 08:51:09 PM Trace Mayer (http://www.crunchbase.com/person/trace-mayer) is scheduled for an interview focusing on Bitcoin on BBC Newsnight (http://BBC Newsnight) on 26 March 2013 at 10:30pm London time (6:30EST; 3:30pm PST).
Any help with recording, etc. would be appreciated. NOTE: The full 9:20 segment is available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH2_a-m1XLI). It followed a rather hair raising piece on Cyprus and potential capital controls. Added some background information at Bitcoin Magazine (http://bitcoinmagazine.com/bbc-newsnight-bitcoin-segment-daniel-knowles-versus-trace-mayer/). Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: kiko on March 26, 2013, 09:37:38 PM Thanks for the heads up, will see what I can do.
Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: World on March 26, 2013, 09:39:21 PM http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01rl5n9
Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: bowen151 on March 26, 2013, 09:40:00 PM Excellent, I'll also try to cap this for you guys if no one else can
Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: Sword Smith on March 26, 2013, 10:48:08 PM Streaming link anybody?
edit: Don't know if streaming from BBC2 is legal or not... Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: Surpbitcoin on March 26, 2013, 10:51:11 PM Streaming link anybody? edit: Don't know if streaming from BBC2 is legal or not... http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01rl5n9 not available yet though, the show ends in about 7:20 EST Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: Sword Smith on March 26, 2013, 10:52:16 PM Streaming link anybody? edit: Don't know if streaming from BBC2 is legal or not... http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01rl5n9 not available yet though, the show ends in about 7:20 EST Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: Surpbitcoin on March 26, 2013, 10:53:07 PM Streaming link anybody? edit: Don't know if streaming from BBC2 is legal or not... http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01rl5n9 not available yet though, the show ends in about 7:20 EST Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: wareen on March 26, 2013, 10:53:50 PM Streaming link anybody? edit: Don't know if streaming from BBC2 is legal or not... http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01rl5n9 not available yet though, the show ends in about 7:20 EST Anyway, it's not too hard to find a working link using google... Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: Sword Smith on March 26, 2013, 10:54:13 PM They are talking about NHS right now. You have not missed anything yet.
Edit: now they are talking about David Milliband who is leaving British politics to work in America. I actually like that guy more than most European Social Democrats. Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: Surpbitcoin on March 26, 2013, 10:59:16 PM http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01rl5n9
live feed! Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: Sword Smith on March 26, 2013, 11:01:42 PM And they are starting their discussion on BTCs and Cyprus right now! It might be mentioned on the BBC News as well.
Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: Sword Smith on March 26, 2013, 11:04:06 PM They are mostly interviewing angry Cypriots right now. They are reporting on upcoming capital controls/cash controls in Cyprus!!
Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: Sword Smith on March 26, 2013, 11:05:52 PM Talking about regulatory uncertainty and economic uncertainty in Cyprus.
Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: Sword Smith on March 26, 2013, 11:07:02 PM Bitcoins mentioned!!
Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: Missionary on March 26, 2013, 11:08:32 PM So far it's like a commercial! ;D
Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: Surpbitcoin on March 26, 2013, 11:11:13 PM loving this story, minus the SR bullshit!
Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: Sword Smith on March 26, 2013, 11:11:25 PM "Various levels of legality".
"trebled in value" "Bypass banks" "Stateless, cannot be taxed, frozen or easily traced" David Birch interviewed "near anonomity" "pizza can be bought with BTCs" "Starting ever so slowly to make it to the high street" "First stage in virtual monetary evolution (...) new economy needs new kind of currency" "dark side of BTCs", Silkroad, weapons, hacking Trace Mayer, Bitcoin investor interviewed right now. He is positive about BTCs. Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: labestiol on March 26, 2013, 11:18:40 PM Great work Trace ;)
Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: Elwar on March 26, 2013, 11:23:02 PM "pizza can be bought with BTCs" This alone will send the price up a couple hundred. Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: rebuilder on March 26, 2013, 11:23:07 PM Well, that was interesting. First a real hair-raiser on the Cyprus situation, complete with hints at possible contagion, then a soothing presentation on what might be a way out from the banking system - Bitcoin. At least that seemed to be the angle.
Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: SolarSilver on March 26, 2013, 11:33:19 PM Well, that was interesting. First a real hair-raiser on the Cyprus situation, complete with hints at possible contagion, then a soothing presentation on what might be a way out from the banking system - Bitcoin. At least that seemed to be the angle. Actually it was not a bad interview, they had a sceptic and a long time user. The obvious questions came up, "it fluctuates in value all the time, it's unstable" and the guy rebutted to the question "Are you bothered by it's valuation in time?" by saying: "The price is actually irrelevant, to the value it provides in being able to transfer value over distance or over the internet, whether it is a nickle or 10k or 100k USD a coin, you are able to transfer value from point A to point B for little or no fees, for me it's mostly the value transfer utility it adds" Spot on! Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: nexusakachus on March 26, 2013, 11:44:30 PM Bitcoin was discussed on BBC Newsnight - 26/03/2013 I have uploaded it on youtube for people outside the UK to be able to watch Someone requested that it be recorded and uploaded on this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159164.20 I cant post there as i am a newbie so could someone else post it for me? http://youtu.be/aaOsM3RUNG8 Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: cpt_howdy on March 26, 2013, 11:51:38 PM The way the press (Newsnight in this case) presents Bitcoin continues to be a little bit misleading, a little bit dumb, and almost never involves interviews with anyone who really knows what they're talking about.
Trace Mayer did a really good job, but the other two interviewees were really disappointing. On the plus side, The Guardian posted an ok Bitcoin interview video the other day... Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: The-Real-Link on March 27, 2013, 12:03:18 AM Thanks for the link. It was...alright. They didn't really drive things too hard though.
Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: mccorvic on March 27, 2013, 01:03:54 AM It seems they gave that guy from the economist a lot more time, but jesbus he just sort of stuttered and couldn't make sense of his own thoughts. Wish they would have given Trace the last say, but I think it was good for what it was.
Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: marcus_of_augustus on March 27, 2013, 01:08:56 AM Trace Mayer (http://www.crunchbase.com/person/trace-mayer) is scheduled for an interview focusing on Bitcoin on BBC Newsnight (http://BBC Newsnight) on 26 March 2013 at 10:30pm London time (6:30EST; 3:30pm PST). Any help with recording, etc. would be appreciated. NOTE: The full 9:20 segment is available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaOsM3RUNG8). It followed a rather hair raising piece on Cyprus and potential capital controls. Well done Trace ... wish they had let you say more. You had them on the run, just keeping it simple and sane. That stuttering waif from The Economist was trying so hard to say "Gold Bad, Bitcoin Bad!" that he couldn't string a relevant, sensible sentence together. His body language seemed incredibly defensive. Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: sunnankar on March 27, 2013, 01:44:49 AM Wish they would have given Trace the last say, but I think it was good for what it was. It seems BBC had a very difficult time finding someone 'articulate' for the 'pro-Bitcoin' side of the story and they wanted someone in London (which is too bad because had I known I would have stayed an extra day as I had flown from London to San Diego the day before!). Perhaps too many Bitcoin users spend their bitcoins on Silk Road instead of saving them? So, I was added to the story pretty much last minute and we even had some technical difficulties right before going on air. Thus, I am pretty satisfied with BBC's journalistic job all things considered. Well done Trace ... wish they had let you say more. You had them on the run, just keeping it simple and sane. That stuttering waif from The Economist was trying so hard to say "Gold Bad, Bitcoin Bad!" that he couldn't string a relevant, sensible sentence together. His body language seemed incredibly defensive. Yes, I was kind of surprised by Mr. Knowles's statements. Bitcoin is actually a really bad tool for money laundering. But whatever. He also seems to conflate a bunch of issues such as (1) store of value, (2) medium of exchange and (3) value transfer system. I wish I had an opportunity rebut his points on money laundering by retorting about freedom of speech and the issues anonymity by talking about FinCEN guidelines and the permanent record in the blockchain of all transactions. But the time constraints and BBC's plan, given the technical difficulties we had earlier and the need for a contingency, made a lot of sense to have the time allocated the way it was. Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: cypherdoc on March 27, 2013, 07:51:14 AM I think the Economist guy was terrified when he looked up and it wasn't Taaki.
Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: cypherdoc on March 27, 2013, 07:55:47 AM Quote from: sunnankar It seems BBC had a very difficult time finding someone 'articulate' for the ' FTFY Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: WiW on March 27, 2013, 08:56:40 AM Will watch when I have a few minutes. Can't wait.
Trace, you need to talk more. You're clear, consistent and charismatic when you talk about bitcoin, something hard to find. Get yourself in front of a youtube camera more often. If you opened a youtube channel I'd be subscriber number one. Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: herzmeister on March 27, 2013, 09:01:40 AM It seems BBC had a very difficult time finding someone 'articulate' for the 'pro-Bitcoin' side of the story and they wanted someone in London really that hard to find? there are so many. Max Keiser (ok persona non grata perhaps for western media), Amir Taaki (already appeared in a clip at the guardian.co.uk) etc... Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: Prattler on March 27, 2013, 09:26:27 AM really that hard to find? there are so many. Max Keiser (ok persona non grata perhaps for western media), Amir Taaki (already appeared in a clip at the guardian.co.uk) etc... Please not Amir Taaki...Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: minimalB on March 27, 2013, 10:08:31 AM I think the Economist guy was terrified when he looked up and it wasn't Taaki. I loled hard! : ) Great job, Trace! Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: genuise on March 27, 2013, 10:15:58 AM Is there a youtube link? or something to be able to whatch this talk outsie of UK?
Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: minimalB on March 27, 2013, 10:27:26 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaOsM3RUNG8
Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: genuise on March 27, 2013, 10:48:00 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaOsM3RUNG8 Thank youTitle: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: Mike Hearn on March 27, 2013, 11:10:14 AM Yeah, Trace did a great job! Definitely agree we need him out in front of the camera more.
Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: Piper67 on March 27, 2013, 11:30:12 AM Yeah, Trace did a great job! Definitely agree we need him out in front of the camera more. More Trace, more Eric, less Taaki!!! Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: tjohej on March 27, 2013, 02:21:28 PM About how Trace Mayer uses Bitcoins to pay for stuff:
At 4:29 the interviewer asks "But what are you actually using them for?" Trace Mayer 4:35 "pay independent contractors that are all over the world, whether they are in India or the Philippines". 4:41 "I've used them to purchase digital products such as e-books or mp3 files". 4:46 "I've also used them to order goods from different websites that accept them online and in other cases I've traded them for euros or British pounds or dollars when I've been traveling. Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: thezerg on March 27, 2013, 02:49:18 PM Awesome job Trace! I see what you did when you refused to focus on bitcoin's price volatility and instead focused on its utility... brilliant!
Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: sunnankar on March 27, 2013, 02:55:13 PM Awesome job Trace! I see what you did when you refused to focus on bitcoin's price volatility and instead focused on its utility... brilliant! And all in a way to make people wish they had owned it with an inclusion of potential prices and fear of loss playing on the viewer's greed; that's Jedi Master salesmanship right there! Even sold Mr. Knowles; poor guy didn't know what hit him. ;D Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: cypherdoc on March 27, 2013, 06:30:15 PM you know the guy who i'm really sick and tired of hearing from? DAVID BIRCH.
how many times have i heard that idiot say that there probably will be a new virtual currency of the future, but it's not Bitcoin? and how many times have i failed to hear him say why? Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: Spaceman_Spiff on March 27, 2013, 07:48:34 PM Awesome job Trace! I see what you did when you refused to focus on bitcoin's price volatility and instead focused on its utility... brilliant! And all in a way to make people wish they had owned it with an inclusion of potential prices and fear of loss playing on the viewer's greed; that's Jedi Master salesmanship right there! As cunning as a fox who's just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University ! Title: Re: 2013-03-26 - Trace Mayer on BBC Newsnight tonight at 10:30pm London need copy Post by: sunnankar on March 27, 2013, 09:50:26 PM As cunning as a fox who's just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University ! Oh, please don't throw me in that briar patch! http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/128/e83/656/resized/serious-cat-meme-generator-skeptical-cat-is-skeptical-e81957.jpg |
