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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: Vink on March 26, 2013, 11:42:12 PM



Title: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Vink on March 26, 2013, 11:42:12 PM
I now have a collection of these sites, each with different payouts and price increases!

BitBears
http://bitbears.com
Starting Price .05BTC
Player Payout 35%
Price Increase 40%
Reset Odds 2%
Time Limit 2 Days

BitJade
www.bitjade.com
Starting Price .05BTC
Player Payout 20%
Price Increase 25%
Reset Odds 3%
Time Limit 1 Day

BitcoinGoldBar
http://bitcoingoldbar.com
Starting Price .05BTC
Player Payout 10%
Price Increase 15%
Reset Odds 3.125%
Time Limit 1 Day

ENJOY!


Title: Re: BitJade! Another ponzi/pyramid game!
Post by: Vink on March 27, 2013, 02:33:45 AM
If you have any suggestions, let me know!


Title: Re: BitJade! Another ponzi/pyramid game!
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on March 27, 2013, 02:43:14 AM
Another one?



Title: Re: BitJade! Another ponzi/pyramid game!
Post by: Vink on March 27, 2013, 02:48:01 AM
Yes. Sorry  :-[


Title: Re: BitJade! Another ponzi/pyramid game!
Post by: Vink on March 27, 2013, 09:29:53 AM
easy money!


Title: Re: BitJade! Another ponzi/pyramid game!
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on March 27, 2013, 09:55:57 AM
easy money!

For the site operator :)


Title: Re: BitJade.com Another Ponzi/Pyramid game!
Post by: StarenseN on March 27, 2013, 09:59:16 AM
heu "ok"


Title: Re: BitJade.com Another Ponzi/Pyramid game!
Post by: Vink on March 28, 2013, 12:36:53 AM
The amount is growing!  :o :o :o


Title: Re: BitJade.com Another Ponzi/Pyramid game!
Post by: Vink on March 29, 2013, 02:11:55 AM
 Currently worth 0.5819BTC


Title: Re: BitJade.com Another Ponzi/Pyramid game!
Post by: Vink on March 29, 2013, 02:40:13 AM
Which ad network are you talking about? I am interested in advertising, so if you recommend me one I will look into it!


Title: Re: BitJade.com Another Ponzi/Pyramid game!
Post by: Vink on March 29, 2013, 02:46:54 AM
Thank you for your positive post!


Title: Re: BitJade.com Another Ponzi/Pyramid game!
Post by: Vink on March 29, 2013, 10:06:18 PM
Currently worth 1.4208 Bitcoins!


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Vink on March 30, 2013, 09:26:32 PM
Bump! Added sites to my collection!


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Vink on March 31, 2013, 05:45:15 AM
The bears are now owned for 1.851 btc!


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Vink on April 01, 2013, 12:32:08 PM
Bump!


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Vink on April 02, 2013, 01:25:17 AM
CURRENT STATUS:
BitBears: 2.5411BTC
BitJade: 0.122BTC
BitcoinGoldbar: 0.817BTC


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: 001sonkit on April 02, 2013, 05:36:49 AM
Bitcoin Tree: 0.3065BTC

And it is not just a clone of BitcoinGem with one shot profit. You get continuous profit!


Find out how much you get with our calculator! (http://chromaticcreative.net/bitcoin/tree/calc.php)

____________________________________________________________________________


just curious, how much profit do you make from these sites?

Bitcoin Tree: is taking 3% from the game, as you see 59% to Round n-1, 31% to round n-2, 7% to n-3,n-4....0, 100-59-31-7=3%
We are planning on doing a donation of 10% the house' profit to help organization to grow tree in the real world. Details will soon be released at tree.chromaticcreative.net and at the Bitcoin Tree thread



For Bitcoin Gem Bitbears on so on, the temple, as far as i know cut 5% from each round
From The word of Vink:

Quote
Player Payout 35%
Price Increase 40%
40-35=THerefore the cut is 5%
Other than that. Everytime the game resets, the hosue profit the initial price since no one hold the game, so the hose collect the money. In which Bitcoin Tree's reset will have the last owner to hold the "Round 0", the house wouldn't profit on that.


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: gmiwenht on April 02, 2013, 06:59:12 AM
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Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: tutkarz on April 02, 2013, 01:27:03 PM
just curious, how much profit do you make from these sites?

comparing to other gambling sites its really not that much, its like few percent of total game item value. If in game item price will be like 1 BTC then you will earn 0.05 from this + eventually initial price 0.01 to 0.1 depends from site. And it is after few days.
The real problem is that you have only one item which is sold for few days while other gaming sites have like 1-2% income but they can have unlimited players at once playing many games one after another giving them unlimited potential income.

People thinks that after game reset all bitcoins last person paid for an item are site owner income. Its not true because you have to send it to previous owner and not keep to yourself :)


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Vink on April 02, 2013, 08:30:23 PM
just curious, how much profit do you make from these sites?

comparing to other gambling sites its really not that much, its like few percent of total game item value. If in game item price will be like 1 BTC then you will earn 0.05 from this + eventually initial price 0.01 to 0.1 depends from site. And it is after few days.
The real problem is that you have only one item which is sold for few days while other gaming sites have like 1-2% income but they can have unlimited players at once playing many games one after another giving them unlimited potential income.

People thinks that after game reset all bitcoins last person paid for an item are site owner income. Its not true because you have to send it to previous owner and not keep to yourself :)

Correct.


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Vink on April 04, 2013, 02:14:55 AM
weeeeee :D


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Vink on April 05, 2013, 07:55:44 PM
The Bears have been reset!


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Vink on April 07, 2013, 06:02:28 AM
bamp


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: codler on April 07, 2013, 08:27:45 AM
Dont play, the game are unstable! I tried play on bitjade and sent 0.0976btc https://blockchain.info/tx/b012a4fa5cfa2b51ee8603b00245758381c0ddd79a1aeb93a402d41d9d5dcdea and later Yurkov bought so I should have been payout, but then suddenly I see my bet was replaced by some else and never got my profit back. It was replaced by http://blockchain.info/tx/5ce00d59d16d4cff88607bb40c36f5ba8473a71a84c85a4c467d0fd989e8ce50 , but that one got confirmed later than mine so I should have been the one who get the profit.


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Vink on April 07, 2013, 09:02:40 AM
Dont play, the game are unstable! I tried play on bitjade and sent 0.0976btc https://blockchain.info/tx/b012a4fa5cfa2b51ee8603b00245758381c0ddd79a1aeb93a402d41d9d5dcdea and later Yurkov bought so I should have been payout, but then suddenly I see my bet was replaced by some else and never got my profit back. It was replaced by http://blockchain.info/tx/5ce00d59d16d4cff88607bb40c36f5ba8473a71a84c85a4c467d0fd989e8ce50 , but that one got confirmed later than mine so I should have been the one who get the profit.
I already explained to you that Yurkov got confirmed first so he owned it that round and sent you a refund.


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Vink on April 07, 2013, 09:05:09 AM
Btw you should check the receive time.
Yurkov 22013-04-05 16:04:56
You 2013-04-05 16:09:23


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: codler on April 07, 2013, 09:26:26 AM
Dont play, the game are unstable! I tried play on bitjade and sent 0.0976btc https://blockchain.info/tx/b012a4fa5cfa2b51ee8603b00245758381c0ddd79a1aeb93a402d41d9d5dcdea and later Yurkov bought so I should have been payout, but then suddenly I see my bet was replaced by some else and never got my profit back. It was replaced by http://blockchain.info/tx/5ce00d59d16d4cff88607bb40c36f5ba8473a71a84c85a4c467d0fd989e8ce50 , but that one got confirmed later than mine so I should have been the one who get the profit.
I already explained to you that Yurkov got confirmed first so he owned it that round and sent you a refund.

and I am saying thats not true, check "Included in blocks".
My are in block 229819 and the other person in block 229832. So I got confirmed before.


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Vink on April 07, 2013, 10:28:57 AM
Btw you should check the receive time.
Yurkov 22013-04-05 16:04:56
You 2013-04-05 16:09:23
^


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: jonytk on April 07, 2013, 08:39:38 PM
folks i think is a problem with the plug-in or blockchain... if not is a huge problem for bitcoin. The transactions should be done in order...

I too played and the first time went just fine, i played a second consecutive time  and i was superseed by another player, my 0.06 btc doesn't show up anywere, i just sended a mail to the owner of bitcoingoldbar.  He must be sleeping atm thought.

I think the plugin should be redone and refund automatically all wrong payments after x time.
That or it's a bug .


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Vink on April 07, 2013, 08:50:39 PM
folks i think is a problem with the plug-in or blockchain... if not is a huge problem for bitcoin. The transactions should be done in order...

I too played and the first time went just fine, i played a second consecutive time  and i was superseed by another player, my 0.06 btc doesn't show up anywere, i just sended a mail to the owner of bitcoingoldbar.  He must be sleeping atm thought.

I think the plugin should be redone and refund automatically all wrong payments after x time.
That or it's a bug .
There is a solution being worked on now. I currently have to manually refund which is why refunds are slow and not automatic.


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: jonytk on April 09, 2013, 12:38:35 PM

[/quote]
There is a solution being worked on now. I currently have to manually refund which is why refunds are slow and not automatic.
[/quote]

yeah, i hope so, the game is adicting because you have to be all day checking the page and later checking if someone bought,
but unless it is totally automatic the owner will have a lot of headaches...

 i have played in total around 10 times in all the sites, and had problems 4 times, first no fee, then it was not enough, ( that one was my fault for trying to see what fee will work in the alloted time..., hey 0.0005btc now are 10cents! ) then i pay the fee and someone else arrived before (or is a bug) and on top of that i had a payment frozen at bitcoin-central for more than a week that was sent just today.

Adding to this, some exchange send the payment from a different address, or takes more than 5 minutes to process it.
 i guess a lot of noobs like me had problems, and i'm IT administrator...

So, a nightmare for the owner to look-up all the transactions and dig up where is the problem.

I hope is fixed soon, before 0.1 bitcoins= 100$  ::)


PD: always use blockchain.info to send the payment and add 0.0005 fee. 0.00011 should work too but it's completely random, Bitcoin needs to improve!


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: talnted on April 09, 2013, 05:20:38 PM
If you are going to play a site like this, play bitcoingem.com (http://bitcoingem.com)

This site has the most traffic and is the original.  It is the base site that the OP copied everything from (including, layout, format..).

There is less risk associated with the site with the most traffic.  Bitcoin Gem is the most popular and thus the only one worth playing.



Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: tutkarz on April 09, 2013, 05:59:24 PM
If you are going to play a site like this, play bitcoingem.com (http://bitcoingem.com)

This site has the most traffic and is the original.  It is the base site that the OP copied everything from (including, layout, format..).

There is less risk associated with the site with the most traffic.  Bitcoin Gem is the most popular and thus the only one worth playing.



Are you new owner of this site? I wouldnt consider it only one worth playing if there are ones with better rules and no random reset like this btctreasure.com (http://btctreasure.com)


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Vink on April 11, 2013, 06:06:11 AM
Bump!


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on April 11, 2013, 07:34:13 AM


First 2 bytes in decimal are: 29931, which is less than 2048. q.e.d.

No, it's not.


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Zedeius on April 16, 2013, 12:52:37 PM
Vink, when are you going to do something about the pending payouts ?!? I've been waiting for ages now (4 days :P)


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: talnted on April 16, 2013, 04:31:08 PM
Vink, when are you going to do something about the pending payouts ?!? I've been waiting for ages now (4 days :P)

Play the original chain game: www.bitcoingem.com (http://www.bitcoingem.com)  it has the highest traffic, thus the least risk that no one will buy after you.

Also, top notch support and none of the issues you are dealing with.


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Vink on April 16, 2013, 06:34:35 PM
Sorry for he delay. The problem has been fixed.


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: FrenchFriesKetchup on April 25, 2013, 10:29:11 AM
Hi there,

i bought the BitJade but never became owner of it.

TX: https://blockchain.info/tx/a5a832aee7b42e128f32c2fc1f427b40bd4a340ca4edad63c03f8b5110666e11

the coins where transmitted to the main game address

https://blockchain.info/tx/5a12b201c3d4834d84453a776dde61d99c5ee1f9dfa5a0d8618cc27a07b8701e

But the game never recognized!

Please refund my 0.05 btc to the original emitting address 18LyDvD5TS4f2M4sR2jDQjC1vQp2P6q47V .

Thx


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: BioTurboNick on April 26, 2013, 01:37:33 AM
Hi there,

i bought the BitJade but never became owner of it.

TX: https://blockchain.info/tx/a5a832aee7b42e128f32c2fc1f427b40bd4a340ca4edad63c03f8b5110666e11

the coins where transmitted to the main game address

https://blockchain.info/tx/5a12b201c3d4834d84453a776dde61d99c5ee1f9dfa5a0d8618cc27a07b8701e

But the game never recognized!

Please refund my 0.05 btc to the original emitting address 18LyDvD5TS4f2M4sR2jDQjC1vQp2P6q47V .

Thx

Same here, for BitBears. I emailed the transaction details to the site's email address. This also happened to me with the Orb game, but after emailing the person they must have manually corrected the error and made me "owner". This makes me wonder whether there is an issue with the template's use of the Blockchain API that renders it unable to recognize pending payments?


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: hugoooo on April 26, 2013, 09:50:50 AM
Hi there,

i bought the BitJade but never became owner of it.

TX: https://blockchain.info/tx/a5a832aee7b42e128f32c2fc1f427b40bd4a340ca4edad63c03f8b5110666e11

the coins where transmitted to the main game address

https://blockchain.info/tx/5a12b201c3d4834d84453a776dde61d99c5ee1f9dfa5a0d8618cc27a07b8701e

But the game never recognized!

Please refund my 0.05 btc to the original emitting address 18LyDvD5TS4f2M4sR2jDQjC1vQp2P6q47V .

Thx

Same here, for BitBears. I emailed the transaction details to the site's email address. This also happened to me with the Orb game, but after emailing the person they must have manually corrected the error and made me "owner". This makes me wonder whether there is an issue with the template's use of the Blockchain API that renders it unable to recognize pending payments?

Oh yeah, BitBears has been having some issues. I had the same thing you mentioned happen to me with this transaction (https://blockchain.info/tx/ec19888ef51fbe35095ed80f52e768c45eb119e48c2600a6de927e608ae6fadd), despite the fact that I sent my payment 5 minutes before the guy who actually got it (my transaction also confirmed 50 minutes before his...). This was 12 days ago -- I have been waiting on a refund ever since.

I also successfully bought the Bears at 0.2689 BTC on the 17th (https://blockchain.info/tx/89145ad4ca91fb59bae17d187651a1b30ed2b620a73dc649c13aead7e466b002) as "hugo", but the server was disconnected shortly after I purchased them, so nobody could buy the whole time I "owned" them. Not sure if anybody else got the "meh, looks like we are disconnected from our bitcoin server" message, but it lasted the entirety of the two days I owned them until the timer reset -- I know because I would have just bought the Bears from myself to keep it going (but obviously couldn't). Seems fair, right? This was 9 days ago. I am still waiting on a refund of this as well.

I've gotten refunds from BitBears before with no problems (and got refunded 0.05 BTC from a purchase that didn't go through from earlier today), but after initially talking about these transactions with the bitbears@gmail address, I have not heard a peep in over a week.

Vink, if you are out there, I am really looking forward to any sort of response...


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: FrenchFriesKetchup on April 27, 2013, 02:47:03 PM
I just received 0.005 BTC. That's a start :)

It seems like there have been some refunds. Check your wallets people.

Never the less i still miss 0.045 BTC. A typo i guess.

Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Vink on April 27, 2013, 11:06:02 PM
Hello, I would like to apologize for my absence. I had a lot of real life things going on and all the sites messing up at the same time caused me to be backed up immensely. The site has been having plugin problems along with blockchain.info api going down caused all the headaches. The plugins have been updated and it seems blockchains api is back to normal. I have sent out all the refunds, but if I missed something, please message me on here with your address or email me through one of the sites and I will get on top if it. Sorry again for the delay.


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: ewibit on May 07, 2013, 01:16:45 PM
would be nice to see when and how often it has reset too..


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: talnted on May 07, 2013, 05:24:55 PM
bitcoingem.com does not run off the blockchain api pluggin, thus we have had non of these issues.  Our support staff has also been on full alert.  I encourage all players to check it out.


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Vink on May 07, 2013, 08:09:00 PM
BitBears is up to 1.4463 Bitcoins!


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Vink on May 14, 2013, 03:03:24 AM
Bump!


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: sartan on June 07, 2013, 02:57:00 AM
do you run the http://satoshidice.chaingames.net/ one as well?

it's pretty expensive. I think I'll stick to http://bitbears.com
should I buy now, or later?


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: simpy on June 07, 2013, 05:35:33 PM
Is http://bitbears.com/ (http://bitbears.com/) the best site for buying these % gains?

It looks really good at 35% profit.


Title: Re: BitBears.com / BitJade.com / BitcoinGoldbar.com (Ponzi/Greater Fool)
Post by: Mastergerund on June 09, 2013, 12:08:32 AM
Two of these have been stagnant since May 13?