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Title: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: poordeveloper on August 21, 2016, 08:21:36 PM
I mean in casino games - roulette, slots...

Which casino has the best odds?


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: zend7 on August 21, 2016, 08:38:27 PM
I mean in casino games - roulette, slots...

Which casino has the best odds?

I think that what you want to know is what casino have the lowest house edge when playing slots as for roulette house edge is fixed I believe. 2 of the most well known casinos here although they don't have many games have 0.8% house edge and they are crypto games and rollin.io . If you are asking which casino have the biggest payout via the slots, you should check each casino which one has the biggest jackpot and this casino have the better odds if you win it but this happens 1 in a milliard if you are lucky.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: 20kevin20 on August 21, 2016, 08:40:51 PM
There's no casino with 'lower or higher odds'. They're all the same, you only need luck to win. And it mostly comes when you're not lookinh after it.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: poordeveloper on August 21, 2016, 08:42:01 PM
Well, house edge is the same thing (but expressed in an opposite way) than odds, isn't it?

I mean - if a casino has a 1% house edge, it means you have 99% odds of winning.

So basically winning odds is 100 - house edge.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: srgkrgkj on August 21, 2016, 09:12:28 PM
moneypot has many games with low house edges I would have recommeneded satoshidice titles but they've been beaten these days


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: Phildo on August 21, 2016, 09:26:36 PM
Most standard casino games are the same everywhere, there can be variation in games depending on the rules of the particular game that are used.

In roulette, games with only 0 instead of 0 and 00 are much better. Some casinos will refund half, or give a do over or something like imprisonment on the even money bets if it lands on green are better. Also, make sure the payouts are correct, and that they pay 35 TO 1 and not 35 FOR 1.

In video poker, the differences in the payouts between different games makes a huge difference, in odds and strategy. Look up a guide online to learn what is good.

Blackjack has many different rule options. Dealer Stands on soft 17 is better than dealer hits on soft 17. the less decks they use the better. Surrender is better than no surrender. Double down whenever you want is better than double down on only 10/11. Being able to resplit hands is better. being able to double after split is better. Being able to play and/or double down after splitting aces is better.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: ralle14 on August 22, 2016, 11:24:51 AM
I can say betking has nice odds on slots because of their higher payout than other sites check out this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=910134.msg15932878#msg15932878) made by dean comparing the same game.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: neochiny on August 22, 2016, 04:34:23 PM
I mean in casino games - roulette, slots...

Which casino has the best odds?

     If what you mean is, higher odds=low house edge (a lower house edge gives you higher chances of winning) , then I'd recommend https://www.crypto-games.net/  , they offer very low house edge, not just on dice but on their other games as well. Another thing I like about this is they're very open, the list for the House Edge on all their games can easily be seen in their FAQ page, unlike some of the other websites.

     (I have previously searched for fortunejack's House Edge in roulette and I couldn't find it, all I could see was their HE for dice(which incidentally I could only find on reviews and not on their site.)) Also an inquiry regarding this question on their thread was ignored.

    This is the list for their House Edge:(crypto-games)

    Dice has a house edge of       :      0.8%
    Slot has a house edge of:          1.97%
    Blackjack has a house edge of :       1.253%
    Lottery has a house edge of     :      1.5%
    Roulette has a house edge of  : 2.7%




Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: philiveyjr on August 22, 2016, 05:04:59 PM
All casinos have the same edge, since all the games have the same edge too. The only difference you will see among the casinos in terms of house edge is in Sportsbetting, which changes from one casino to another.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: raaajlucky on August 22, 2016, 05:16:13 PM
All casinos have the same edge, since all the games have the same edge too. The only difference you will see among the casinos in terms of house edge is in Sportsbetting, which changes from one casino to another.
Yes in slot games there is no much difference in b/w one casino to another casino. Only in sports betting site we see some differences. And for Dice game, i prefer Primedice it is nice site and more user-friendly and odds also good. One more important thing is they have excellent customer support, so I like this site.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: neochiny on August 24, 2016, 07:34:22 PM
All casinos have the same edge, since all the games have the same edge too. The only difference you will see among the casinos in terms of house edge is in Sportsbetting, which changes from one casino to another.

Aside from the game itself having different edge(depending on programming), casinos does offer different HE. Especially on dice, some offer 0.5, 0.8, 1, 1.9 , and it has an effect on your win chance, though it may seem minor, but on dice, where you can bet tens or even hundreds of times in a minute, won't that little bit of % affect your win ratio? So it's not just on sportsbetting does HE matter, but other games as well, especially the fast-paced ones.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: iv4n on August 24, 2016, 07:39:42 PM
I always thought its the same where ever you play. I don't know nothing about different odds for the same game. It's what can be adjusted how ever someone wish, if you wish to chase high odds x 10 x 20 you just wrote it and that is it.
With slots its same, there is different casinos, but every casino have betsoft, amanet, endorphine slots, where ever you play its almost the same.
Its question, can they change odds in slots?


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: HabBear on August 24, 2016, 08:44:20 PM
Your local neighborhood casino. Seriously. The best odds of winning are found when you gamble with friends - poker, blackjack, dice, etc. The house always has a tight edge, so if you gamble with a known house, an institution, you'll be subject to those poorer odds.

And if you're compelled to gamble on a bitcoin site, Satoshi Games is the spot. Bet options are available with up to 64,000x payout of your bet with a house edge of only 1.9% (bet results are mathematically provably fair). Link below!

Good luck!


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: HabBear on August 24, 2016, 08:48:14 PM
I always thought its the same where ever you play. I don't know nothing about different odds for the same game. It's what can be adjusted how ever someone wish, if you wish to chase high odds x 10 x 20 you just wrote it and that is it.
With slots its same, there is different casinos, but every casino have betsoft, amanet, endorphine slots, where ever you play its almost the same.
Its question, can they change odds in slots?

Chasing high or low odds is only possible with dice or number spin games. A lot of bitcoin casinos now have traditional casino games, whose odds are driven by the casino.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: Phildo on August 25, 2016, 02:03:55 AM
I always thought its the same where ever you play. I don't know nothing about different odds for the same game. It's what can be adjusted how ever someone wish, if you wish to chase high odds x 10 x 20 you just wrote it and that is it.
With slots its same, there is different casinos, but every casino have betsoft, amanet, endorphine slots, where ever you play its almost the same.
Its question, can they change odds in slots?

It's not really the same. Pay attention to how you spend your money. 10x payout with 9.9% chance of winning is different than 10x payout with 9.8% payout.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: Naoko on August 25, 2016, 02:09:52 AM
some app in moneypot have very low house edge, i've seen .1% HE and .2% HE in dice game, i just forgot what are those app names but you can search for it but for other games such as rollette and slots, most casinos have the same HE


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 25, 2016, 05:10:57 AM
some app in moneypot have very low house edge, i've seen .1% HE and .2% HE in dice game, i just forgot what are those app names but you can search for it but for other games such as rollette and slots, most casinos have the same HE

JUst for info this new Moneypot app has  0.01% HE

https://www.moneypot.com/apps/1429-xchange-anything-dice


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: Naoko on August 25, 2016, 05:21:49 AM
some app in moneypot have very low house edge, i've seen .1% HE and .2% HE in dice game, i just forgot what are those app names but you can search for it but for other games such as rollette and slots, most casinos have the same HE

JUst for info this new Moneypot app has  0.01% HE

https://www.moneypot.com/apps/1429-xchange-anything-dice

i am not really sure about that new app, i visited the app and check it but i saw 49% win chance on 2x multiplier so it means 2% house edge but when i check my bet id on moneypot it shows .01% house edge


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: Herbert2020 on August 25, 2016, 05:24:00 AM
if you are looking for a way to win more in gambling then i think it is better to choose a better game like betting on sports so that you have a better chance of winning the games in case you have some skills. and even if you have no skills in sports betting you can still use the tipsters that are mostly free tips to make some bets.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: JackpotRacer on August 25, 2016, 05:29:37 AM
some app in moneypot have very low house edge, i've seen .1% HE and .2% HE in dice game, i just forgot what are those app names but you can search for it but for other games such as rollette and slots, most casinos have the same HE

JUst for info this new Moneypot app has  0.01% HE

https://www.moneypot.com/apps/1429-xchange-anything-dice

i am not really sure about that new app, i visited the app and check it but i saw 49% win chance on 2x multiplier so it means 2% house edge but when i check my bet id on moneypot it shows .01% house edge

the Moneypot Bet ID shows 0.01% and then you can rely on that. but I will send the owner of the app to here to explain


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: paying_mlm on August 25, 2016, 12:01:49 PM
some app in moneypot have very low house edge, i've seen .1% HE and .2% HE in dice game, i just forgot what are those app names but you can search for it but for other games such as rollette and slots, most casinos have the same HE

JUst for info this new Moneypot app has  0.01% HE

https://www.moneypot.com/apps/1429-xchange-anything-dice

i am not really sure about that new app, i visited the app and check it but i saw 49% win chance on 2x multiplier so it means 2% house edge but when i check my bet id on moneypot it shows .01% house edge

Formula for House Edge percentage is   HE = 100 * (wager - EV) / wager

Generally, rounding is not advantageous to casinos, so while calculating payouts, truncate or floor or rounddown functions are used to bring down payouts to minimum payable units for that casino (for moneypot, minimum payable unit is satoshi).   In other words even if payout is x.99 satoshi, actual payout will be x satoshi and left-over 0.99 satoshi will contribute to variations shown in HE on bet details page.  

You will see maximum variations in HE for small and petty wager like few satoshis.   I think, (I can not confirm as I do not have access to mp code), HE shown on bet details page of moneypot is calculated on actual amount or figure that mp gets as HE for that particular bet.  

So actual House Edge at 1% HE for 1 satoshi wager is 0.01 satoshi, right?  And that is why HE shown on moneypot bet details for 1 satoshi wager is 0.01%    makes sense?

Yes, effective HE in my game is 2%.  I say effective for practical purposes as actual HE set in game is 1% and remaining 1% of wager is passed on to fund jackpot.  Effective HE of 2% remains fixed for all the be sizes and all the chances or all the multipliers.

Please let me know if it is still unclear or you need more info.  

Good Luck!!

PS: edited for one typos


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
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Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: Bajirao871 on August 27, 2016, 12:38:45 PM
You do not have good odds in the Casino, roulette, slots and other gambling if you do not have a strategy of doing the games. for all gambling is a game and every game requires strategy, techniques, etc to be able to win. If you rely solely on someone's advice to play, then it's just a waste of time


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: onlinedragon on August 27, 2016, 12:42:14 PM
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Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: Elclasico on August 27, 2016, 12:55:38 PM
Odds only refers to sportsbook, feneral casino games have "house edge", so i guess you mean "lowest house edge"? Actually roulette and bj have their own odds. Different casinos have same, some variaties do not have.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: SyGambler on August 27, 2016, 01:31:58 PM
the odds for roulette will never change , so basically all the casinos are equals when it comes to roulette but you should only play European roulette cause the house edge is lower
some sites may offer betback and loss back which even reduces the house edge , you can check the site in my signature
for slots especially 3D ones , there is no enough information about the house edge and usually all the sites are offering the same types of slots
but maybe you should check Bitvest.io slots , it's provably fair and you can set your own lines and the house edge there is known


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
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Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
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Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: Twistedx2 on August 27, 2016, 06:53:01 PM
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Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: olubams on August 27, 2016, 07:45:30 PM
I mean in casino games - roulette, slots...

Which casino has the best odds?

In getting the best odds, I think you will have to restrict it to some sites that you are interested in because from the suggestions so far you can only get for popular sites and not all the site


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: Ryan Dugan on September 05, 2016, 07:20:50 PM
I mean in casino games - roulette, slots...

Which casino has the best odds?

The easy way everyone will say on this thread is look at the house edge. It is not all to look at. Maybe look at the casino profits ? If it has loses maybe the chance is higher ? If a casino is making too much then maybe stay far. The game you choose also is important. Roulette has 00 so it will change the odds. Dice will have 50/50 with less than 2x payout or 49.5% chance and 2x payout exactly. The house edge changes this. I maybe would say dice and blackjack if you have good skill to add the odds quickly. Next is maybe roulette .


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: bet365guru on September 06, 2016, 01:57:58 AM
In general, they are fixed.

Roulette has fixed odds, European one has 2.7% house edge, but American has 5.4%

Slots have various house edge, from 10% to 2%, depends on different suppliers, maybe there are higher in real slots in casinos.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: Erza on September 06, 2016, 02:06:01 AM
I mean in casino games - roulette, slots...

Which casino has the best odds?

The easy way everyone will say on this thread is look at the house edge. It is not all to look at. Maybe look at the casino profits ? If it has loses maybe the chance is higher ? If a casino is making too much then maybe stay far. The game you choose also is important. Roulette has 00 so it will change the odds. Dice will have 50/50 with less than 2x payout or 49.5% chance and 2x payout exactly. The house edge changes this. I maybe would say dice and blackjack if you have good skill to add the odds quickly. Next is maybe roulette .

How come dice and blackjack need some skill when you play it? May be blackjack need some skills but for dice it just pure luck games and there is no solid strategy that will lead you into some profit. Moreover higher odds on dice games will give you higher chance to lose because they have house edge too. So if you are not lucky enough you might not survive from this. Roullete doesnt need skills though if you are lucky enough you can put on the righy number that going to be hit


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: bet365guru on September 06, 2016, 02:16:59 AM
I mean in casino games - roulette, slots...

Which casino has the best odds?

The easy way everyone will say on this thread is look at the house edge. It is not all to look at. Maybe look at the casino profits ? If it has loses maybe the chance is higher ? If a casino is making too much then maybe stay far. The game you choose also is important. Roulette has 00 so it will change the odds. Dice will have 50/50 with less than 2x payout or 49.5% chance and 2x payout exactly. The house edge changes this. I maybe would say dice and blackjack if you have good skill to add the odds quickly. Next is maybe roulette .

How come dice and blackjack need some skill when you play it? May be blackjack need some skills but for dice it just pure luck games and there is no solid strategy that will lead you into some profit. Moreover higher odds on dice games will give you higher chance to lose because they have house edge too. So if you are not lucky enough you might not survive from this. Roullete doesnt need skills though if you are lucky enough you can put on the righy number that going to be hit

Blackjack needs counting card skill, it is only useful in real casino. Not the online casino. Some of real casino use auto reshuffle machine every hand, so counting can't help in this situation.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: game-protect on September 06, 2016, 02:19:12 AM
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Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: Superhitech on September 06, 2016, 02:36:31 AM
I mean in casino games - roulette, slots...

Which casino has the best odds?

The easy way everyone will say on this thread is look at the house edge. It is not all to look at. Maybe look at the casino profits ? If it has loses maybe the chance is higher ? If a casino is making too much then maybe stay far. The game you choose also is important. Roulette has 00 so it will change the odds. Dice will have 50/50 with less than 2x payout or 49.5% chance and 2x payout exactly. The house edge changes this. I maybe would say dice and blackjack if you have good skill to add the odds quickly. Next is maybe roulette .

How come dice and blackjack need some skill when you play it? May be blackjack need some skills but for dice it just pure luck games and there is no solid strategy that will lead you into some profit. Moreover higher odds on dice games will give you higher chance to lose because they have house edge too. So if you are not lucky enough you might not survive from this. Roullete doesnt need skills though if you are lucky enough you can put on the righy number that going to be hit

Blackjack needs counting card skill, it is only useful in real casino. Not the online casino. Some of real casino use auto reshuffle machine every hand, so counting can't help in this situation.

This is correct, in online casinos, there is a house edge in blackjack.

While it is not a casino game, maybe you should try bustabit? Most of the casino games house edge are the same.

Bustabit's house edge can get really low, (between 0 and 1%) you can read about their house edge here (https://www.bustabit.com/faq#odds).


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: TraderETH on September 06, 2016, 04:10:51 AM
Basiccaly our odds on gambling ( include casino) is 50:50, however our way to analysis games of gambling. And in my opinion there are not who has best odds because we don't know about the future.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: vasrasus on September 06, 2016, 04:17:15 AM
I think in any which you have capable example your that lucky in playing cards or playing dice or roulletes. Try your luck in all that games and where you will win then find a time to learn and win on it each time you play. Play as long as your enjoying.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: poplolnman on September 06, 2016, 04:47:05 AM
I mean in casino games - roulette, slots...

Which casino has the best odds?

The easy way everyone will say on this thread is look at the house edge. It is not all to look at. Maybe look at the casino profits ? If it has loses maybe the chance is higher ? If a casino is making too much then maybe stay far. The game you choose also is important. Roulette has 00 so it will change the odds. Dice will have 50/50 with less than 2x payout or 49.5% chance and 2x payout exactly. The house edge changes this. I maybe would say dice and blackjack if you have good skill to add the odds quickly. Next is maybe roulette .

How come dice and blackjack need some skill when you play it? May be blackjack need some skills but for dice it just pure luck games and there is no solid strategy that will lead you into some profit. Moreover higher odds on dice games will give you higher chance to lose because they have house edge too. So if you are not lucky enough you might not survive from this. Roullete doesnt need skills though if you are lucky enough you can put on the righy number that going to be hit

Blackjack needs counting card skill, it is only useful in real casino. Not the online casino. Some of real casino use auto reshuffle machine every hand, so counting can't help in this situation.
the question itself makes confusing for me , but i guess he mean with the best odds are the highest win percentage or the lowest house edge ? roulette have a house edge on zero and green which cost 5% and slots machine 95% house edge! for me the best way to play against house edge are to play blackjack , it's fun and have low house edge around 2% only.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: roadbits on September 06, 2016, 08:06:10 AM
I mean in casino games - roulette, slots...

Which casino has the best odds?

The easy way everyone will say on this thread is look at the house edge. It is not all to look at. Maybe look at the casino profits ? If it has loses maybe the chance is higher ? If a casino is making too much then maybe stay far. The game you choose also is important. Roulette has 00 so it will change the odds. Dice will have 50/50 with less than 2x payout or 49.5% chance and 2x payout exactly. The house edge changes this. I maybe would say dice and blackjack if you have good skill to add the odds quickly. Next is maybe roulette .

How come dice and blackjack need some skill when you play it? May be blackjack need some skills but for dice it just pure luck games and there is no solid strategy that will lead you into some profit. Moreover higher odds on dice games will give you higher chance to lose because they have house edge too. So if you are not lucky enough you might not survive from this. Roullete doesnt need skills though if you are lucky enough you can put on the righy number that going to be hit

Blackjack needs counting card skill, it is only useful in real casino. Not the online casino. Some of real casino use auto reshuffle machine every hand, so counting can't help in this situation.
the question itself makes confusing for me , but i guess he mean with the best odds are the highest win percentage or the lowest house edge ? roulette have a house edge on zero and green which cost 5% and slots machine 95% house edge! for me the best way to play against house edge are to play blackjack , it's fun and have low house edge around 2% only.
Yup, the Op question is confusing, he is asking best sites for roulette and slots or best odds for these games. I think the odds is almost same in all casino sites. Only the difference is winning percentage. So I think any casino is ok to play these games. If you have luck, you will make a profit.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: buyinbtc on September 06, 2016, 03:23:42 PM
Odds only refers to sportsbook, feneral casino games have "house edge", so i guess you mean "lowest house edge"? Actually roulette and bj have their own odds. Different casinos have same, some variaties do not have.
i think the best odds are given by the sportsbook to be honest, i really like it and i think that i will make some decent money with that


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: paying_mlm on September 13, 2016, 10:40:17 AM
If you are ready to do some calculations and home work, my new dice game Flexi Dice (https://xchangeanything.com/flexidice/) on moneypot will give you fixed HE of 1% irrespective of the game you play.  Yes, HE remains fixed at 1% for all the games be it roulette, keno, slots, Sic-Bo, Lottery, etc.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: raaajlucky on September 13, 2016, 11:10:42 AM
Basiccaly our odds on gambling ( include casino) is 50:50, however our way to analysis games of gambling. And in my opinion there are not who has best odds because we don't know about the future.
Yes, i agree this in gambling the odds should be 50 - 50 in slot games. Because it purely depends on luck. If you have luck, you will make a profit or else your pocket empty. But in sports betting, we can make a profit the odds also favour to players. We should know on that game and player performance then it is easy to make a profit in sports betting.


Title: Re: Which casino has the best odds?
Post by: udet4food on September 13, 2016, 11:16:27 AM
Well, house edge is the same thing (but expressed in an opposite way) than odds, isn't it?

I mean - if a casino has a 1% house edge, it means you have 99% odds of winning.

So basically winning odds is 100 - house edge.

Isn't the house edge how much money the house gets back on average? For example, if a casino has 1% house edge, it means on average you get 99% back, not that there is 99% odds of winning (I wish...).
So with 10000 * $1 bets you'll get back $9900 on average with a house edge of 1%, but you won't win 9900 times (well it depends on the win chance you selected).

But with a smaller house edge, there's better odds.