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Title: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: Surpbitcoin on March 27, 2013, 05:32:31 PM
I sent coins to 3 different places between 11:40-11:54 AM EST today. Its been over an hour and a half and the coins have not arrived and in my wallet it shows 0 confirmations. Can anyone explain to me why this is happening?


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: Surpbitcoin on March 27, 2013, 05:44:10 PM
bump, this is starting to worry me!


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: wingding on March 27, 2013, 05:46:57 PM
But do you see the unconfirmed amount? If so, it will come, at least I experience >2 hrs to get confirms.


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: Surpbitcoin on March 27, 2013, 05:50:20 PM
But do you see the unconfirmed amount? If so, it will come, at least I experience >2 hrs to get confirms.

Only one of them. it was for 1 btc, then I have one out for 33 btc and one more for 115btc.
 the larger amounts show no ballance on the blockchain.


wtf?? this is not supposed to be happening.



Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: Surpbitcoin on March 27, 2013, 05:58:44 PM
Can someone explain this to me, has anyone ever dealt with this type of an issue before?


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: ryanAC on March 27, 2013, 06:03:43 PM
Post the transactions so we can follow along?


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: odolvlobo on March 27, 2013, 06:06:05 PM
The first step is to check the status of the transaction using a different source than your wallet -- blockchain.info is where most people go.

Also, when posting questions like this, you must supply the transaction ID (or at least the destination address and the amount).

Typically, the reason you don't see confirmations is that your wallet won't show them until it has synched to the blocks containing the transactions.

Another possibility is that your transaction contains a large number of inputs (typical for people the play SD), and an insufficient fee has lowered its priority. Miners may be postponing the transaction in favor of transactions with higher priority.


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: Surpbitcoin on March 27, 2013, 06:12:08 PM
Post the transactions so we can follow along?

these are the transactions


11:40 AM  1BTC sent to 13GEpZ3h49mTmnH99QSW5MPHWMB3JUSeLQ
11:47 AM  33 BTC sent to 1CXjNC5fev4m8kW85ACyNU4KM93zexHAfM
11:54 AM  115 BTC sent to 1969VxZ3wLVEVQ3Y1PLKvFsG4vNkYeh51J

that's all the info I have, whats' the TX ID? also the first one can be seen on blockchain.info but the others cant. I'm starting to worry. This was a brand new wallet on a new laptop never used before today, (I should add that I forgot to add a transaction fee which might be slowing this down but 2+ hours is too much) I sent myelf 149 coins from an older wallet to this one, they showed up in 25 minutes or so, then I started to send them out and ran into these problems.


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: DataPlumber on March 27, 2013, 06:20:18 PM
https://blockchain.info/address/13GEpZ3h49mTmnH99QSW5MPHWMB3JUSeLQ shows your 1btc tx.

But no tx fee.

It'll likely get included eventually.

Next time tape a penny to the tx if it's important to you.

Edit: the actual tx is here:

https://blockchain.info/tx/2b05a4b8a5276875367e477ab82ff70345da052f2abbc5d665b99665cf2f797f


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: Surpbitcoin on March 27, 2013, 06:26:15 PM
https://blockchain.info/address/13GEpZ3h49mTmnH99QSW5MPHWMB3JUSeLQ shows your 1btc tx.

But no tx fee.

It'll likely get included eventually.

Next time tape a penny to the tx if it's important to you.

Edit: the actual tx is here:

https://blockchain.info/tx/2b05a4b8a5276875367e477ab82ff70345da052f2abbc5d665b99665cf2f797f

I already added a fee from now on, I had one on my other wallet but I forgot to add in on this one, any clue of how long it will take until I start seeing some movement?


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: kjj on March 27, 2013, 06:31:19 PM
You had bad timing.

Code:
20130327 103840 - 000000000000020ac70bbb8dad72073710a35d8fd0274f774f5efe1cde95b085
20130327 114035 - 000000000000002d01ceb1224d0aaa1feebebbdbbc1035e9fe2a87cf060699b8
20130327 114332 - 000000000000021c8ea416cd4c2faadd542e905b55d3e577e976776f3618dfb6
20130327 115043 - 000000000000023bc9543c9b4368b330e721298a9050b2df109f71613fcba12b
20130327 125534 - 00000000000001da79fdd3ca6730f466f4823edacf1d00c6ca3bf0f1e2413e06
20130327 131723 - 000000000000002fd7ca83970e6248a3639af9d34166dda080b0c7c83d9ba21b
20130327 132321 - 000000000000011dc7eacca2c18ff2390103da40dce651f5194abfd34544c946

These are date, time (central US) and block hash for the last 7 blocks.

See that two of them have 1+ hour gaps?  When that happens, transactions pile up in the mempools, and miners tend to favor fees over no fees, so it may take a while to clear the backlog before anyone includes yours for free.


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: Surpbitcoin on March 27, 2013, 06:35:19 PM
You had bad timing.

Code:
20130327 103840 - 000000000000020ac70bbb8dad72073710a35d8fd0274f774f5efe1cde95b085
20130327 114035 - 000000000000002d01ceb1224d0aaa1feebebbdbbc1035e9fe2a87cf060699b8
20130327 114332 - 000000000000021c8ea416cd4c2faadd542e905b55d3e577e976776f3618dfb6
20130327 115043 - 000000000000023bc9543c9b4368b330e721298a9050b2df109f71613fcba12b
20130327 125534 - 00000000000001da79fdd3ca6730f466f4823edacf1d00c6ca3bf0f1e2413e06
20130327 131723 - 000000000000002fd7ca83970e6248a3639af9d34166dda080b0c7c83d9ba21b
20130327 132321 - 000000000000011dc7eacca2c18ff2390103da40dce651f5194abfd34544c946

These are date, time (central US) and block hash for the last 7 blocks.

See that two of them have 1+ hour gaps?  When that happens, transactions pile up in the mempools, and miners tend to favor fees over no fees, so it may take a while to clear the backlog before anyone includes yours for free.

Is there any way I can cancel them and resend them with the fee attached? probably not eh?



Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: ryanAC on March 27, 2013, 06:42:07 PM
I sent myelf 149 coins from an older wallet to this one, they showed up in 25 minutes or so, then I started to send them out and ran into these problems.

That might be your problem... the coins you sent yourself need to age.  Or else you need to provide more fees to get them higher priority.
I just learned about it from this current thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158729.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158729.0)


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: kjj on March 27, 2013, 06:45:16 PM
Is there any way I can cancel them and resend them with the fee attached? probably not eh?

Not easily, no.  But it looks like the amounts were pretty high, so they should be fairly high priority.  Even if it was easy to remove the transactions and retry, it would probably still take longer than just waiting.


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: Buffer Overflow on March 27, 2013, 06:49:29 PM
They will be put into a block over the next 24 hours I'm sure.


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: Surpbitcoin on March 27, 2013, 06:55:28 PM
thanks for the info guys, I'll keep my eye on it and update once the coins arrive.

Surp


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: 420 on March 27, 2013, 08:11:50 PM
thanks for the info guys, I'll keep my eye on it and update once the coins arrive.

Surp

There's also a new problem called blockchain v2 vs. old v1 which could be affecting these things.

I also have 3 unconfirmed transactions


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: Surpbitcoin on March 27, 2013, 08:29:42 PM
thanks for the info guys, I'll keep my eye on it and update once the coins arrive.

Surp

There's also a new problem called blockchain v2 vs. old v1 which could be affecting these things.

I also have 3 unconfirmed transactions

can you post a link to more info or elaborate a bit?


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: 420 on March 27, 2013, 08:31:58 PM
thanks for the info guys, I'll keep my eye on it and update once the coins arrive.

Surp

There's also a new problem called blockchain v2 vs. old v1 which could be affecting these things.

I also have 3 unconfirmed transactions

can you post a link to more info or elaborate a bit?

probaby just this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159683.msg1688640#msg1688640


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: Surpbitcoin on March 27, 2013, 11:45:04 PM
UPDATE:

All the coins have arrived safe and sound.


 :)


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: 420 on March 27, 2013, 11:54:04 PM
UPDATE:

All the coins have arrived safe and sound.


 :)

only one of my transactions went through so far


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: Surpbitcoin on March 28, 2013, 12:28:55 AM
UPDATE:

All the coins have arrived safe and sound.


 :)

only one of my transactions went through so far


Give it time, it should get there soon.


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: Nesetalis on March 28, 2013, 12:38:28 AM
just goes to show.. pay a penny to the piper and your transaction will be completed sooner. :p
If it is a higher priority, pay a bit more.


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: 420 on March 28, 2013, 01:06:31 AM
just goes to show.. pay a penny to the piper and your transaction will be completed sooner. :p
If it is a higher priority, pay a bit more.

this was gox, sending to another exchange:
http://blockchain.info/address/18iFeCUx3zqvxTy5e6KvXC6UKsCJL2BeK1

1btc, still waiting


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: 420 on March 28, 2013, 09:27:36 PM
mine are complete even the ones that may be zero fee


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: Surpbitcoin on March 28, 2013, 11:39:08 PM
mine are complete even the ones that may be zero fee

Nice!


Title: Re: How come my coins arent moving?
Post by: 420 on March 28, 2013, 11:47:16 PM
Help them reach the goal:
https://www.bitcoinstore.com/