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Title: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: MyPain on August 26, 2016, 06:50:28 AM
malalaman natin ang saloobin ng ating mga kababayan tungkol sa isyu na ito..


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: Naoko on August 26, 2016, 07:08:58 AM
sakin ok lng yang all out war na yan laban sa mga abu sayyaf na yan. hindi titigil yang mga yan kung hindi sila lalabanan ng gobyerno, oo mdaming sibilyan na mdadamay pero mas ok na yun kesa tumagal yang grupo na yan at mas madami ang mabiktima nila


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: malcovixeffect on August 26, 2016, 07:22:35 AM
Yes baka lumaki pa ang terrorismo sa bansa natin.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: MyPain on August 26, 2016, 08:24:53 AM
Sabi nga, madaming sibilyan madadamay.. Siguro, kulang lang sa tight security ang ating naval forces kaya nagkakaron ng supply ang mga bandido gaya ng bala at armas..kung iipitin nila sa shippings siguro, pwede maghirap ang bandido hanggang sa sumuko nalang.. Pero mahirap padin, madaming sibilyan din kasi ang miyembro ng grupo which is,hindi alam ng gobyerno at grupo ng subdalo at pulis..


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: Avenger101 on August 26, 2016, 09:59:39 AM
Kill all terrorists including supporters.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: btctube on August 26, 2016, 10:12:28 AM
Napuksa na sana dati pa yan kung hinayaan lang si erap.. ewan ko na lang kung may general pang nasa military business ngayon.
sila-sila lang naman ang nagbebenta ng mga weapons dyan sa abusayaf. kapag napuksa yang mga abusayaf wala ng business ang mga generals.

loyal kay digong ang mga arm forces kaya walang mag kudeta


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: MyPain on August 26, 2016, 12:55:48 PM
Natuloy naman ang all out war ni erap. Kaso, ang kagaya ng chr ang pumipigil. Kasi, madami nga daw sibilyan madadamay.. Sa tingin ko, dapat, mahuli din yung mga tao na nagpo protekta sa mga yan.. Kahit sino satin  gusto mapuksa ang terorismo, kaso, yung mga sibilyan, ayaw din iiwan ang kanilang mga ari arian at hanapbuhay kaya sila nadadamay..yung iba pang sibilyan, sanay na sa gyera..


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: techgeek on August 26, 2016, 01:06:02 PM
Kill all terrorists including supporters.

Yes definitely, they should be the one getting killed and not civilians.

I don't get why these HR advocates care for criminals but not the innocent dying


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: MyPain on August 26, 2016, 02:41:18 PM
You know why? It is because, nothing else, but, BUSINESS.. That's how they see us poor people including innocent civilians, WORTHLESS as long as their businesses lives. It is not the bandits who destroy the country, it is the businessmen who negotiate and do business with the bandits. And it is too hard for the government to pinpoint one of those,why? Because of MONEY.. Poor civilians, being manipulated, abused and used.. :(


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: lienfaye on August 26, 2016, 03:21:37 PM
Oo dapat na talagang maubos na ang mga yan dahil wala silang naidudulot na maganda at takot lang ang namamayani sa mga kababayan natin sa sakop nila. kawawa naman ang mga ginagawa nilang hostage tapos pupugutan lang ng ulo mga wala silang puso. dapat din na hindi na magbigay ang gobyerno ng ransom dahil gagamitin lang nila yun para bumili ng mga panibagong armas at makakapag hikayat ng mga bagong recruit.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: vindicare on August 27, 2016, 07:34:42 AM
all out at goodluck sa mga sundalo natin,hoping na may unilateral ceasefire ang CPP/NPA at mga militar sana tumulong rin sila kung gusto nila ng kapayapaan parang lahat nalang kasi ng gusto nila hiningi na nila sa kasunduan sana ibalik nila ang favor sa pagsugpo sa mga terrorismo . Hindi umuunlad ang mindanao dahil sa mga ganito puro kasi extortion at nakakasira sa turismo.
pros: peace
cons: firearms are costly


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: mundang on August 27, 2016, 07:43:30 AM
Sang ayon ako jan ,kc matagal ng problema ng gobyerno yang abu sayaf n yan. Madami n ang dumaan n presidente pero wala namang nagawa para resolbahin yang problemang yan,c duterte lng ang nangahas n patumbahin n yang grupo.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: yueno on August 28, 2016, 03:08:31 AM
Yes, dapat lang kasi yang mga Abusayaff na yan ang mga bandit walang IDEOLOGY yang mga yn money lang ang gusto nila para mkapaglakas laban sa gobyerno. Buti na lng ang ating president ay isang IRON FIST kung nd mhihirapan tayo at isa pa matalino ang ating president kasi advance sya sa ating mag isip napansin nyo ba? Yung plano nya satin para sa future generation. Dahil alam nya na ang KABATAAN ANG PAG ASA NG BAYAN. THIS IS OUR LAST CHANCE. ITS NOW OR NEVER. :)


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: vindicare on August 28, 2016, 11:19:23 AM
Yung mga nasa taas lang naman ang nakikinabang sa mga ransom nila e kasi yung iba mga pawns/tauhan lang nila at sineswelduhan ng kakarampot tapos sila puro tanggap lang ng utos ang masama pa dun mamamatay sila tapos kakarampot lang ang natatanggap nila . Wala rin silang tamang edukasyon kaya na bebrain wash lang sila kagad kaya sana pagtuonan ni boss digong ang edukasyon satin.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: MyPain on August 29, 2016, 12:56:54 PM
May mga region kasi sa pilipinas na hindi naabot ng sibilisasyon at puro mga rebeldeng grupo ang namumuno.. Na eeducate ang mga susunod nila na henerasyon sa kung ano din ang itinuro sa kanila kaya ganun at ganun din.. Dapat talaga silang mapasok muna ng gobyerno para maibahagi sa kanila ang maling pag aaral. Para mapasok nila iyin, kailangan ng gobyerno ng pwersahang pamamasok sa kanilang lugar kasi kahit anung gawin nating paliwanag sa kanila, sarado na utak nila pagdating sa usaping gobyerno. Kaya, walang nagtatagumpay na peacetalks dahil sa ayaw nila tanggapin ang aral at isapuso ang batas ng bansa.. Nakakaawa yung mga bata nila, pinagkaitan ng tunay na kalayaan para ma explore ang takbo ng isang sibilisadong pamumuhay.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: saiha on August 29, 2016, 01:33:56 PM
Well Duterte wants to have peace in Mindanao look on how he is working for the peace there with the CPP-NPA headed by Joma Sison.

But Duterte is really mad at all because Abu Sayaffs have different ideology and Duterte doesn't want their ideology.

They are really rebels at all I'm sure that they are going to get some help from ISIS'


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: npredtorch on August 29, 2016, 11:27:55 PM
Pros nyan mapupuksa ang mga bandido. Cons nyan, maraming mamamatay na sundalo at sibilyan na malapit sa mga kuta. Dapat gawin ng pamahalaan, tulad ng ginawa dati ay yung paalisin yung mga sibilyan bago sumugod para walang madamay. Tapos dapat yung mga pinaalis ay mabigyan ng sapat na kailangan nila at kung maaari ay bigyan ng malilipatan. Kung ayaw padin umalis, eh bahala na sila. Hindi naman kasi matatapos kung hindi wawakasan yung ginagawa ng mga abu. Kawawa yung mga napupugutan, ginagawang hanap buhay.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: lissandra on August 30, 2016, 12:26:40 AM
Well Duterte wants to have peace in Mindanao look on how he is working for the peace there with the CPP-NPA headed by Joma Sison.

But Duterte is really mad at all because Abu Sayaffs have different ideology and Duterte doesn't want their ideology.

They are really rebels at all I'm sure that they are going to get some help from ISIS'

That's what is hard about this situation.

It's very impossible that this will end because a lot of other people are involved like the ISIS.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: bhadz on August 30, 2016, 03:48:10 AM
Well Duterte wants to have peace in Mindanao look on how he is working for the peace there with the CPP-NPA headed by Joma Sison.

But Duterte is really mad at all because Abu Sayaffs have different ideology and Duterte doesn't want their ideology.

They are really rebels at all I'm sure that they are going to get some help from ISIS'

That's what is hard about this situation.

It's very impossible that this will end because a lot of other people are involved like the ISIS.


For sure this is going to be a tough fight for the military men and for our president. Because these hard headed rebels are not going to stop until their wants are going to give and going to have guarantee by the government. But even Duterte is offering some peace talks to them. They don't want it, they really want war. So, go for it.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: passwordnow on August 30, 2016, 04:02:23 AM
Well I really want this Abu Sayaff group to be wiped out as they are giving fear to the foreign people to visit our country. And what comes to their mind our president is humbling himself to have good relation to them and going to give them some favors, like livelihood to be able to start out their good life but it seems that they don't want it. They have really a rebellious spirit.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: electronicash on August 30, 2016, 08:59:23 AM


Ilabas na lang sana ni digong ang mga ilaga gang para todas na ang mga yan. Buhay pa naman ata yung si norberto.
Problema lang kasi yung ilaga rin ang papalit sa mga ASG.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: techgeek on August 30, 2016, 12:04:44 PM
Well I really want this Abu Sayaff group to be wiped out as they are giving fear to the foreign people to visit our country. And what comes to their mind our president is humbling himself to have good relation to them and going to give them some favors, like livelihood to be able to start out their good life but it seems that they don't want it. They have really a rebellious spirit.

Seems like some people are not really fighting for something.

They just want bloodshed and that's it.

Honestly people like that I think have some problem with their thinking, so it's really just right to give them what they want.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: lissandra on August 30, 2016, 12:49:16 PM
Well I really want this Abu Sayaff group to be wiped out as they are giving fear to the foreign people to visit our country. And what comes to their mind our president is humbling himself to have good relation to them and going to give them some favors, like livelihood to be able to start out their good life but it seems that they don't want it. They have really a rebellious spirit.

Seems like some people are not really fighting for something.

They just want bloodshed and that's it.

Honestly people like that I think have some problem with their thinking, so it's really just right to give them what they want.

Just like the ISIS.

They say they are fighting for the muslims but nowadays they are bombing mosques.

They're not making any sense


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: saiha on August 30, 2016, 01:22:38 PM
Well I really want this Abu Sayaff group to be wiped out as they are giving fear to the foreign people to visit our country. And what comes to their mind our president is humbling himself to have good relation to them and going to give them some favors, like livelihood to be able to start out their good life but it seems that they don't want it. They have really a rebellious spirit.

Seems like some people are not really fighting for something.

They just want bloodshed and that's it.

Honestly people like that I think have some problem with their thinking, so it's really just right to give them what they want.

Just like the ISIS.

They say they are fighting for the muslims but nowadays they are bombing mosques.

They're not making any sense

Well they have the same ideology they say that they are the real religion in the world. What? Real religion fighting for what? Killing for what?

Killing the innocent people that wants peace. I don't know if they really know what they are fighting for. Because no peace can get if you have gun.

Or they are just deceived by satan.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: maryannabon on August 30, 2016, 01:28:43 PM
aKO SANG AYON DINAKO kcsumusubra na sila ngpakumbaba na si Pres. Duterte na dapat maging peaceful lahat pero di sila naniwala infact maraming namatay na sundalo at ngbuwis ng buhay. Kaya its time na cguro na tapusin lahat para sa kapayapaan nang bansa.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: boyptc on August 30, 2016, 02:20:58 PM
Well I really want this Abu Sayaff group to be wiped out as they are giving fear to the foreign people to visit our country. And what comes to their mind our president is humbling himself to have good relation to them and going to give them some favors, like livelihood to be able to start out their good life but it seems that they don't want it. They have really a rebellious spirit.

Seems like some people are not really fighting for something.

They just want bloodshed and that's it.

Honestly people like that I think have some problem with their thinking, so it's really just right to give them what they want.

Just like the ISIS.

They say they are fighting for the muslims but nowadays they are bombing mosques.

They're not making any sense

Well they have the same ideology they say that they are the real religion in the world. What? Real religion fighting for what? Killing for what?

Killing the innocent people that wants peace. I don't know if they really know what they are fighting for. Because no peace can get if you have gun.

Or they are just deceived by satan.


Abu sayyafs are really rebels and even you are going to offer peace with them they are going to give you a knife and gun as a token of appreciation for your effort. I guess they don't have any sympathy for the lives of other people. The spirit they have are the diablo's or people of satan. And Duterte is really mad at them.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: Erichallig on August 31, 2016, 01:44:55 AM
Another 5 battalion was sent to sulu. Pulbusin na yan


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: bidz on August 31, 2016, 02:56:43 AM
Another 5 battalion was sent to sulu. Pulbusin na yan
Dapat lang talagang tuldukan at pulbusin na ang problema sa mga Terrorista na yan. Ngayon sa Gobyerno ni President Digong sana maubos na lahat ang mga Terrorista at magkaroon na nang kapayapan.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: malcovixeffect on August 31, 2016, 02:59:05 AM
Another 5 battalion was sent to sulu. Pulbusin na yan
Dapat lang talagang tuldukan at pulbusin na ang problema sa mga Terrorista na yan. Ngayon sa Gobyerno ni President Digong sana maubos na lahat ang mga Terrorista at magkaroon na nang kapayapan.

Malayo pa ang kapayapaan meron pa ang China hehe


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: cjrosero on August 31, 2016, 03:13:26 AM
maraming nag sasabi ng Yes jan kasi di sila apektado pero pag andun kayo mismo sa lugar naku ewan ko lng kung makapag Yes pa kayo. pero anyway un lng naman tlga ang sulotion jan sa problema natin sa abu sayaf na yan all out war. di ko alam kung ano ipinaglalaban nila jan. sabi nga ng karamihan we cannot have peace without a war.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: saiha on August 31, 2016, 04:50:38 AM
Another 5 battalion was sent to sulu.

It is getting clear to my mind on why did Duterte went all over some military camps in Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao. Because this is what he is planning.

To declare all out war against these terrorist group and that is a very good move to him. Good luck to that 5 battalion that is going to risk their lives just for the peace of Mindanao.

I hope these rebels are going to surrender so that there are no more gunshots are going to be heard.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: Golftech on August 31, 2016, 04:58:16 AM
Another 5 battalion was sent to sulu.

It is getting clear to my mind on why did Duterte went all over some military camps in Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao. Because this is what he is planning.

To declare all out war against these terrorist group and that is a very good move to him. Good luck to that 5 battalion that is going to risk their lives just for the peace of Mindanao.

I hope these rebels are going to surrender so that there are no more gunshots are going to be heard.
hoping that the president would not stop hunting them they already causing huge problem here in our country so time for a change it is time to crash them up to last members of their group.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: jossiel on August 31, 2016, 06:03:40 AM
Another 5 battalion was sent to sulu.

It is getting clear to my mind on why did Duterte went all over some military camps in Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao. Because this is what he is planning.

To declare all out war against these terrorist group and that is a very good move to him. Good luck to that 5 battalion that is going to risk their lives just for the peace of Mindanao.

I hope these rebels are going to surrender so that there are no more gunshots are going to be heard.
hoping that the president would not stop hunting them they already causing huge problem here in our country so time for a change it is time to crash them up to last members of their group.

Well our president always wanting to have peace for the whole nation of our country but there are really some mess to clean out.

And he really need to totally wipe them out so that the mess are not going to disturb more the peace of the country.

But it is really sad that a soldier was beheaded. Many lives are being sacrificed for our sake.  :'(

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/811217/we-beheaded-your-son


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: malcovixeffect on August 31, 2016, 07:05:10 AM
maraming nag sasabi ng Yes jan kasi di sila apektado pero pag andun kayo mismo sa lugar naku ewan ko lng kung makapag Yes pa kayo. pero anyway un lng naman tlga ang sulotion jan sa problema natin sa abu sayaf na yan all out war. di ko alam kung ano ipinaglalaban nila jan. sabi nga ng karamihan we cannot have peace without a war.

Parang Isis lang sila, yung mga pinuno nila ginagamit lang ang religion para magkaroon sila ng kapangyarihan
Palusot lang ang pinaglalaban na independence?


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: Fredomago on August 31, 2016, 11:01:10 AM
Another 5 battalion was sent to sulu.

It is getting clear to my mind on why did Duterte went all over some military camps in Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao. Because this is what he is planning.

To declare all out war against these terrorist group and that is a very good move to him. Good luck to that 5 battalion that is going to risk their lives just for the peace of Mindanao.

I hope these rebels are going to surrender so that there are no more gunshots are going to be heard.
hoping that the president would not stop hunting them they already causing huge problem here in our country so time for a change it is time to crash them up to last members of their group.

Well our president always wanting to have peace for the whole nation of our country but there are really some mess to clean out.

And he really need to totally wipe them out so that the mess are not going to disturb more the peace of the country.

But it is really sad that a soldier was beheaded. Many lives are being sacrificed for our sake.  :'(

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/811217/we-beheaded-your-son
yun nga eh nakakasama ng loob pag nakakabalita tayo ng ganito sayang ung buhay nung mga sundalo nagamit lang sa mga walang kwentang tao wala naman concrete na pinaglalaban then namemerwisyo lang talaga sana ubusin na yan pati ung mga pasibol pa lang na mga abusayaf.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: Pavua on August 31, 2016, 03:16:09 PM
Sang ayun ako dyan syempre   mas ok na din siguro na mag deklara na nf ALL OUT WAR para matapos na ang mga ginagawang kasamaan ng mga teroristang yan .  At sa aking palagay WAR nalamang ang makakapag wakas sa nang yayaring ito. 


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: techgeek on August 31, 2016, 11:03:48 PM
yun nga eh nakakasama ng loob pag nakakabalita tayo ng ganito sayang ung buhay nung mga sundalo nagamit lang sa mga walang kwentang tao wala naman concrete na pinaglalaban then namemerwisyo lang talaga sana ubusin na yan pati ung mga pasibol pa lang na mga abusayaf.

You hit it right on the spot boss.

It's very sad to know good lives are lost and to realize that it's only for nothing really because these abu sayaff don't want anything but to simply fire their guns


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: MyPain on September 01, 2016, 12:16:35 AM
Mahihirapan lalo ang gobyerno ngayon kasi alam na din naman ng ISIS ang crisis ng Abu Sayaff ngayon. Susuporta pa yung isis na yun. Sana ay higpitan pa lalo ang seguridad para ma corner sila, wala ng papasok at reresbak sa kanilang reinforcement at ammunition.. Yun lang naman ang buhay nila..kung wala ng support sa kanila, kung hindi sila susuko, mamamatay sila.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: BossMacko on September 01, 2016, 01:41:28 AM
malalaman natin ang saloobin ng ating mga kababayan tungkol sa isyu na ito..

Para matigil ang gera kailangan mapatay ang mga Leader ng Abusayaff saka mga sponsor neto dapat matugis. Dahil walang saysay ang all out war hanggat my leader sila na kayang mag brainwash ng mga tao para sa cause nila. Ang mga isis ay kasalukuyan na nakikipat cooperation na sa mga abusayaff kaya mahihirapan ang mga militar na matugis lahat ng mga abusayaff.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: jossiel on September 01, 2016, 04:22:53 AM
yun nga eh nakakasama ng loob pag nakakabalita tayo ng ganito sayang ung buhay nung mga sundalo nagamit lang sa mga walang kwentang tao wala naman concrete na pinaglalaban then namemerwisyo lang talaga sana ubusin na yan pati ung mga pasibol pa lang na mga abusayaf.

You hit it right on the spot boss.

It's very sad to know good lives are lost and to realize that it's only for nothing really because these abu sayaff don't want anything but to simply fire their guns

I don't know how many lives are still needed to be sacrifice just for these moron people who are fighting for something they don't know and not right.

I hope they are going to realize to stop their rebellion or else Digong is going to be forced to wipe them out.

Why they don't like the peace offering of Digong and they are going to accept a good life with it by giving them good livelihood.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: lissandra on September 01, 2016, 11:28:42 AM
yun nga eh nakakasama ng loob pag nakakabalita tayo ng ganito sayang ung buhay nung mga sundalo nagamit lang sa mga walang kwentang tao wala naman concrete na pinaglalaban then namemerwisyo lang talaga sana ubusin na yan pati ung mga pasibol pa lang na mga abusayaf.

You hit it right on the spot boss.

It's very sad to know good lives are lost and to realize that it's only for nothing really because these abu sayaff don't want anything but to simply fire their guns

I don't know how many lives are still needed to be sacrifice just for these moron people who are fighting for something they don't know and not right.

I hope they are going to realize to stop their rebellion or else Digong is going to be forced to wipe them out.

Why they don't like the peace offering of Digong and they are going to accept a good life with it by giving them good livelihood.

They won't realize all of these because they don't know how to think.

This is why I keep saying education is really important to be given attention to right now.

So that we can start raising children who know how to think before they act, who know how to value life and who know how to treat others well.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: vindicare on September 01, 2016, 11:30:35 AM
wala namang pinaglalaban yung abusayaf kaya ayaw nilang tumigil kasi dun sila kumikita sa maruming paraan yung pang hohostage at paninira , yung npa e ang sabi nila may pinaglalaban sila kaya pumayag sila sa peace talks yung iba ring member nila e mga nakapag aral lalo na yung mga nasa manila. sana e ma wipe na sila kasi nasa 200+ nalang daw bilang nila .


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: Hatuferu on September 02, 2016, 02:56:34 AM
wala namang pinaglalaban yung abusayaf kaya ayaw nilang tumigil kasi dun sila kumikita sa maruming paraan yung pang hohostage at paninira , yung npa e ang sabi nila may pinaglalaban sila kaya pumayag sila sa peace talks yung iba ring member nila e mga nakapag aral lalo na yung mga nasa manila. sana e ma wipe na sila kasi nasa 200+ nalang daw bilang nila .
No, the thing is the abusayaff are fighting for what they believe and it could be wrong and also the government fighting for what they believe is right, the only solution to this is first the peace talk then second is the all out war, kill them all for them to know the government is serious with its advocacy to eliminate terrorist.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: malcovixeffect on September 02, 2016, 03:19:33 AM
wala namang pinaglalaban yung abusayaf kaya ayaw nilang tumigil kasi dun sila kumikita sa maruming paraan yung pang hohostage at paninira , yung npa e ang sabi nila may pinaglalaban sila kaya pumayag sila sa peace talks yung iba ring member nila e mga nakapag aral lalo na yung mga nasa manila. sana e ma wipe na sila kasi nasa 200+ nalang daw bilang nila .
No, the thing is the abusayaff are fighting for what they believe and it could be wrong and also the government fighting for what they believe is right, the only solution to this is first the peace talk then second is the all out war, kill them all for them to know the government is serious with its advocacy to eliminate terrorist.

Ha? Gusto mo makipag peace talk ka sa mga extortionist at mamatay tao, tgnan mo nga nag cease fire nung malapit na silang madurog sa panahon ni Erap tapos ngayon na dumami sila ulit bumalik sila sa pugot ulo gang

Sa flag palang nila gusto nila makipag affiliate sa ISIS

Ito ang paniniwala nila

Kung mas marami kang mapatay na kalaban daw ng dyos nila mas malaki ang chance na tatangapin ka sa heaven.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: techgeek on September 03, 2016, 04:52:34 AM
wala namang pinaglalaban yung abusayaf kaya ayaw nilang tumigil kasi dun sila kumikita sa maruming paraan yung pang hohostage at paninira , yung npa e ang sabi nila may pinaglalaban sila kaya pumayag sila sa peace talks yung iba ring member nila e mga nakapag aral lalo na yung mga nasa manila. sana e ma wipe na sila kasi nasa 200+ nalang daw bilang nila .
No, the thing is the abusayaff are fighting for what they believe and it could be wrong and also the government fighting for what they believe is right, the only solution to this is first the peace talk then second is the all out war, kill them all for them to know the government is serious with its advocacy to eliminate terrorist.

Ha? Gusto mo makipag peace talk ka sa mga extortionist at mamatay tao, tgnan mo nga nag cease fire nung malapit na silang madurog sa panahon ni Erap tapos ngayon na dumami sila ulit bumalik sila sa pugot ulo gang

Sa flag palang nila gusto nila makipag affiliate sa ISIS

Ito ang paniniwala nila

Kung mas marami kang mapatay na kalaban daw ng dyos nila mas malaki ang chance na tatangapin ka sa heaven.

I agree with malcovixeffect.

Peace talks won't work for them anymore because they have these ideologies that just doesn't make sense.

They're basically the local version of ISIS


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: jossiel on September 03, 2016, 07:07:39 AM
wala namang pinaglalaban yung abusayaf kaya ayaw nilang tumigil kasi dun sila kumikita sa maruming paraan yung pang hohostage at paninira , yung npa e ang sabi nila may pinaglalaban sila kaya pumayag sila sa peace talks yung iba ring member nila e mga nakapag aral lalo na yung mga nasa manila. sana e ma wipe na sila kasi nasa 200+ nalang daw bilang nila .
No, the thing is the abusayaff are fighting for what they believe and it could be wrong and also the government fighting for what they believe is right, the only solution to this is first the peace talk then second is the all out war, kill them all for them to know the government is serious with its advocacy to eliminate terrorist.

Ha? Gusto mo makipag peace talk ka sa mga extortionist at mamatay tao, tgnan mo nga nag cease fire nung malapit na silang madurog sa panahon ni Erap tapos ngayon na dumami sila ulit bumalik sila sa pugot ulo gang

Sa flag palang nila gusto nila makipag affiliate sa ISIS

Ito ang paniniwala nila

Kung mas marami kang mapatay na kalaban daw ng dyos nila mas malaki ang chance na tatangapin ka sa heaven.

I agree with malcovixeffect.

Peace talks won't work for them anymore because they have these ideologies that just doesn't make sense.

They're basically the local version of ISIS

Well even Duterte is going to offer billions of pesos to these rebels still they are not going to accept it. They have evil spirit living in their souls.

They just want total war and wants to kill innocent of people. They are happy about it, that's why we need to support our government.

With this fight against terrorism.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: vindicare on September 03, 2016, 11:49:20 AM
wala namang pinaglalaban yung abusayaf kaya ayaw nilang tumigil kasi dun sila kumikita sa maruming paraan yung pang hohostage at paninira , yung npa e ang sabi nila may pinaglalaban sila kaya pumayag sila sa peace talks yung iba ring member nila e mga nakapag aral lalo na yung mga nasa manila. sana e ma wipe na sila kasi nasa 200+ nalang daw bilang nila .
No, the thing is the abusayaff are fighting for what they believe and it could be wrong and also the government fighting for what they believe is right, the only solution to this is first the peace talk then second is the all out war, kill them all for them to know the government is serious with its advocacy to eliminate terrorist.

Ha? Gusto mo makipag peace talk ka sa mga extortionist at mamatay tao, tgnan mo nga nag cease fire nung malapit na silang madurog sa panahon ni Erap tapos ngayon na dumami sila ulit bumalik sila sa pugot ulo gang

Sa flag palang nila gusto nila makipag affiliate sa ISIS

Ito ang paniniwala nila

Kung mas marami kang mapatay na kalaban daw ng dyos nila mas malaki ang chance na tatangapin ka sa heaven.

I agree with malcovixeffect.

Peace talks won't work for them anymore because they have these ideologies that just doesn't make sense.

They're basically the local version of ISIS

Well even Duterte is going to offer billions of pesos to these rebels still they are not going to accept it. They have evil spirit living in their souls.

They just want total war and wants to kill innocent of people. They are happy about it, that's why we need to support our government.

With this fight against terrorism.

imposible namang hindi tanggapin kung offeran sila ng billion tatanggapin nila yan ang problema kung hihinto ba talaga sila years after nilang makuha yan kasi yung mga nasa itaas lang nila ang makakabenefit dyan at magkano lang ang makukuha ng mga myembro nila at marahil magtayo nanaman ng bagong samahan laban sa gobyerno.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: herminio on September 03, 2016, 12:50:35 PM
Dapat na talaga ubusin ang mga abusayaf dahil marami ng mga inocente ang namamatay  sana sa adminitrasyong duterte na ang uubus sa mga abusayaff na yan.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: vindicare on September 04, 2016, 02:22:08 PM
sana nga pre dahil maraming tourist spot sa mindanao at isa sila sa mga dahilan bakit kumokonti mga turista sa atin ,lumiliit tuloy ang kita sa turismo dahil palaging may hinohostage na mga foreigners na ang gusto lamang e magbakasyon. Parang wala rin naman silang pinaglalaban na may katuturan kaya dapat lang silang ubusin.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: passwordnow on September 04, 2016, 03:08:28 PM
Dapat na talaga ubusin ang mga abusayaf dahil marami ng mga inocente ang namamatay  sana sa adminitrasyong duterte na ang uubus sa mga abusayaff na yan.

Kaya nga chief dapat talaga pulbusin na tong mga abu sayaf na to wala naman ibang ginagawa kundi puro karahasan lang. Inamin pa nila na sila
ang may pakana sa roxas night market na sila ang bumomba doon. Nakakainis lang na napakaraming mga inosenteng buhay ang namatay ng walang kalaban laban.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: techgeek on September 07, 2016, 10:46:13 AM
sana nga pre dahil maraming tourist spot sa mindanao at isa sila sa mga dahilan bakit kumokonti mga turista sa atin ,lumiliit tuloy ang kita sa turismo dahil palaging may hinohostage na mga foreigners na ang gusto lamang e magbakasyon. Parang wala rin naman silang pinaglalaban na may katuturan kaya dapat lang silang ubusin.

Considering that our country is a very small country compared to the rest of the world, this Abu Sayaff is really causing great damage to us as an entire nation.

You're right, without the Abu Sayaff we would have had way more tourists and even investors in our country.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: lissandra on September 09, 2016, 06:12:57 AM

Well even Duterte is going to offer billions of pesos to these rebels still they are not going to accept it. They have evil spirit living in their souls.

They just want total war and wants to kill innocent of people. They are happy about it, that's why we need to support our government.

With this fight against terrorism.

These kinds of groups including the ISIS I think are all psychopaths gathered together.

It's really scary how much doom people with mental problems can bring


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: topaz18 on September 09, 2016, 03:05:10 PM
Ang tagal na nilang naghahasik ng lagim, dapat lang na e all out war na sila. Hindi ko talaga maintindihan kung anong pinaglalaban nila at bakit pa sila nandadamay ng mga inosenteng tao.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: techgeek on September 09, 2016, 09:03:10 PM
Ang tagal na nilang naghahasik ng lagim, dapat lang na e all out war na sila. Hindi ko talaga maintindihan kung anong pinaglalaban nila at bakit pa sila nandadamay ng mga inosenteng tao.

The saying 'Everything happens for a reason' is not true.

Sometimes there is no reason.

The only reason I can think of is that the ASG finds satisfaction in terrorizing people


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: Crimson Tank on September 10, 2016, 02:38:40 AM
I totally agree with the all out war against abu sayaff
Pros: we'll be able to get rid of them, there'll be peace in the south, we can prevent ISIS infiltration
Cons: this can be very costly for the DND, and a lot of casualties--- its a war anyway, but i hope we can prevent alot of deaths on our side.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: vindicare on September 10, 2016, 04:31:49 AM
if only our military has satellite that can scan a place yung katulad sa america and other country  mahihirapan talagang magtago yang ASG ang nangyayari ngayon manual ang intelligence matagal at kapag nakikita ko sa tv na nagfifire sila ng mortar parang ang kalikasan lang talaga ang natatamaan at hindi ang ASG parang sayang pero sana may purpose yun like para idrive away sila dun sa spot na minomortar at para mapunta sa spot na gusto ng military.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: Maslate on September 11, 2016, 03:08:56 AM
if only our military has satellite that can scan a place yung katulad sa america and other country  mahihirapan talagang magtago yang ASG ang nangyayari ngayon manual ang intelligence matagal at kapag nakikita ko sa tv na nagfifire sila ng mortar parang ang kalikasan lang talaga ang natatamaan at hindi ang ASG parang sayang pero sana may purpose yun like para idrive away sila dun sa spot na minomortar at para mapunta sa spot na gusto ng military.
Under the duterte administration they are focus on the improvement of our military and in fact the first move is to increase their salary and with the help of other nation we can have the most advance gadget and equipment to defeat the terrorist.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: vindicare on September 11, 2016, 11:16:13 AM
if only our military has satellite that can scan a place yung katulad sa america and other country  mahihirapan talagang magtago yang ASG ang nangyayari ngayon manual ang intelligence matagal at kapag nakikita ko sa tv na nagfifire sila ng mortar parang ang kalikasan lang talaga ang natatamaan at hindi ang ASG parang sayang pero sana may purpose yun like para idrive away sila dun sa spot na minomortar at para mapunta sa spot na gusto ng military.
Under the duterte administration they are focus on the improvement of our military and in fact the first move is to increase their salary and with the help of other nation we can have the most advance gadget and equipment to defeat the terrorist.
oo alam ko yan dahil kasama sa mga pangako niya yan nuong election ang point ko lang is kung ginawa yan nung mga previous administration ang pagpapalakas sa military natin di na siguro mahirap mahuli yung mga terrorist na yan kasi capable na ang military natin na tugisin kagad sila using advance equipment kaso ngayon mahirap ipagsabay ang pagpuksa sa kahirapan at pagpapaganda ng military kasi malaking budget ang kelangan dyan.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: Maslate on September 12, 2016, 03:46:51 AM
if only our military has satellite that can scan a place yung katulad sa america and other country  mahihirapan talagang magtago yang ASG ang nangyayari ngayon manual ang intelligence matagal at kapag nakikita ko sa tv na nagfifire sila ng mortar parang ang kalikasan lang talaga ang natatamaan at hindi ang ASG parang sayang pero sana may purpose yun like para idrive away sila dun sa spot na minomortar at para mapunta sa spot na gusto ng military.
Under the duterte administration they are focus on the improvement of our military and in fact the first move is to increase their salary and with the help of other nation we can have the most advance gadget and equipment to defeat the terrorist.
oo alam ko yan dahil kasama sa mga pangako niya yan nuong election ang point ko lang is kung ginawa yan nung mga previous administration ang pagpapalakas sa military natin di na siguro mahirap mahuli yung mga terrorist na yan kasi capable na ang military natin na tugisin kagad sila using advance equipment kaso ngayon mahirap ipagsabay ang pagpuksa sa kahirapan at pagpapaganda ng military kasi malaking budget ang kelangan dyan.
I hope we can achieve peace in our country and all terrorist will disappear, this government is a clean government which only aim is to give the people the freedom to live a wonderful life.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: cjrosero on September 12, 2016, 07:53:12 AM
if only our military has satellite that can scan a place yung katulad sa america and other country  mahihirapan talagang magtago yang ASG ang nangyayari ngayon manual ang intelligence matagal at kapag nakikita ko sa tv na nagfifire sila ng mortar parang ang kalikasan lang talaga ang natatamaan at hindi ang ASG parang sayang pero sana may purpose yun like para idrive away sila dun sa spot na minomortar at para mapunta sa spot na gusto ng military.
Under the duterte administration they are focus on the improvement of our military and in fact the first move is to increase their salary and with the help of other nation we can have the most advance gadget and equipment to defeat the terrorist.
oo alam ko yan dahil kasama sa mga pangako niya yan nuong election ang point ko lang is kung ginawa yan nung mga previous administration ang pagpapalakas sa military natin di na siguro mahirap mahuli yung mga terrorist na yan kasi capable na ang military natin na tugisin kagad sila using advance equipment kaso ngayon mahirap ipagsabay ang pagpuksa sa kahirapan at pagpapaganda ng military kasi malaking budget ang kelangan dyan.
I hope we can achieve peace in our country and all terrorist will disappear, this government is a clean government which only aim is to give the people the freedom to live a wonderful life.

i agree i was hoping na mawala na to kasi dami inocenting tao nammty at nadadamay. kung tutusin tlga wala naman tlga pinaglalaban tong mga to eh pang gulo lng sa bayan ung peace talk maraming beses na yan gnagawa pero wala dn lng nangyayari.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: lissandra on September 12, 2016, 08:17:25 AM
if only our military has satellite that can scan a place yung katulad sa america and other country  mahihirapan talagang magtago yang ASG ang nangyayari ngayon manual ang intelligence matagal at kapag nakikita ko sa tv na nagfifire sila ng mortar parang ang kalikasan lang talaga ang natatamaan at hindi ang ASG parang sayang pero sana may purpose yun like para idrive away sila dun sa spot na minomortar at para mapunta sa spot na gusto ng military.
Under the duterte administration they are focus on the improvement of our military and in fact the first move is to increase their salary and with the help of other nation we can have the most advance gadget and equipment to defeat the terrorist.
oo alam ko yan dahil kasama sa mga pangako niya yan nuong election ang point ko lang is kung ginawa yan nung mga previous administration ang pagpapalakas sa military natin di na siguro mahirap mahuli yung mga terrorist na yan kasi capable na ang military natin na tugisin kagad sila using advance equipment kaso ngayon mahirap ipagsabay ang pagpuksa sa kahirapan at pagpapaganda ng military kasi malaking budget ang kelangan dyan.

I'm sure the past administration was aware of the technologies available out there that we could have acquired.

Maybe they just don't care, or maybe even some people are benefiting from this war.

So instead of allotting effort and resources to equipment that can easily wipe out the terrorists, they simply use all our soldiers as a front to make it seem like they're doing something about this problem.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: kamotequte on September 13, 2016, 09:29:22 AM
if only our military has satellite that can scan a place yung katulad sa america and other country  mahihirapan talagang magtago yang ASG ang nangyayari ngayon manual ang intelligence matagal at kapag nakikita ko sa tv na nagfifire sila ng mortar parang ang kalikasan lang talaga ang natatamaan at hindi ang ASG parang sayang pero sana may purpose yun like para idrive away sila dun sa spot na minomortar at para mapunta sa spot na gusto ng military.
Under the duterte administration they are focus on the improvement of our military and in fact the first move is to increase their salary and with the help of other nation we can have the most advance gadget and equipment to defeat the terrorist.
oo alam ko yan dahil kasama sa mga pangako niya yan nuong election ang point ko lang is kung ginawa yan nung mga previous administration ang pagpapalakas sa military natin di na siguro mahirap mahuli yung mga terrorist na yan kasi capable na ang military natin na tugisin kagad sila using advance equipment kaso ngayon mahirap ipagsabay ang pagpuksa sa kahirapan at pagpapaganda ng military kasi malaking budget ang kelangan dyan.

I'm sure the past administration was aware of the technologies available out there that we could have acquired.

Maybe they just don't care, or maybe even some people are benefiting from this war.

So instead of allotting effort and resources to equipment that can easily wipe out the terrorists, they simply use all our soldiers as a front to make it seem like they're doing something about this problem.

I was thinking na I carpet bomb nila ung areas where they believe na camp ng mga terrorist, but then again its a known fact na ung mga locals e tinatago ung iba kasi binibigyan sila ng pera ng mga un parang Robin Hood effect nila kaya siguro hindi mabomba bomba ng bongang bonga ung mga lugar na yan dahil for sure madaming civilian na madadamay.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: techgeek on September 13, 2016, 10:52:47 AM
if only our military has satellite that can scan a place yung katulad sa america and other country  mahihirapan talagang magtago yang ASG ang nangyayari ngayon manual ang intelligence matagal at kapag nakikita ko sa tv na nagfifire sila ng mortar parang ang kalikasan lang talaga ang natatamaan at hindi ang ASG parang sayang pero sana may purpose yun like para idrive away sila dun sa spot na minomortar at para mapunta sa spot na gusto ng military.
Under the duterte administration they are focus on the improvement of our military and in fact the first move is to increase their salary and with the help of other nation we can have the most advance gadget and equipment to defeat the terrorist.
oo alam ko yan dahil kasama sa mga pangako niya yan nuong election ang point ko lang is kung ginawa yan nung mga previous administration ang pagpapalakas sa military natin di na siguro mahirap mahuli yung mga terrorist na yan kasi capable na ang military natin na tugisin kagad sila using advance equipment kaso ngayon mahirap ipagsabay ang pagpuksa sa kahirapan at pagpapaganda ng military kasi malaking budget ang kelangan dyan.

I'm sure the past administration was aware of the technologies available out there that we could have acquired.

Maybe they just don't care, or maybe even some people are benefiting from this war.

So instead of allotting effort and resources to equipment that can easily wipe out the terrorists, they simply use all our soldiers as a front to make it seem like they're doing something about this problem.

I was thinking na I carpet bomb nila ung areas where they believe na camp ng mga terrorist, but then again its a known fact na ung mga locals e tinatago ung iba kasi binibigyan sila ng pera ng mga un parang Robin Hood effect nila kaya siguro hindi mabomba bomba ng bongang bonga ung mga lugar na yan dahil for sure madaming civilian na madadamay.

Well yeah that's another factor that stops us from getting rid of terrorists in our country.

They can easily fool the less informed and less educated with money.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: lissandra on September 13, 2016, 11:22:59 AM
if only our military has satellite that can scan a place yung katulad sa america and other country  mahihirapan talagang magtago yang ASG ang nangyayari ngayon manual ang intelligence matagal at kapag nakikita ko sa tv na nagfifire sila ng mortar parang ang kalikasan lang talaga ang natatamaan at hindi ang ASG parang sayang pero sana may purpose yun like para idrive away sila dun sa spot na minomortar at para mapunta sa spot na gusto ng military.
Under the duterte administration they are focus on the improvement of our military and in fact the first move is to increase their salary and with the help of other nation we can have the most advance gadget and equipment to defeat the terrorist.
oo alam ko yan dahil kasama sa mga pangako niya yan nuong election ang point ko lang is kung ginawa yan nung mga previous administration ang pagpapalakas sa military natin di na siguro mahirap mahuli yung mga terrorist na yan kasi capable na ang military natin na tugisin kagad sila using advance equipment kaso ngayon mahirap ipagsabay ang pagpuksa sa kahirapan at pagpapaganda ng military kasi malaking budget ang kelangan dyan.

I'm sure the past administration was aware of the technologies available out there that we could have acquired.

Maybe they just don't care, or maybe even some people are benefiting from this war.

So instead of allotting effort and resources to equipment that can easily wipe out the terrorists, they simply use all our soldiers as a front to make it seem like they're doing something about this problem.

I was thinking na I carpet bomb nila ung areas where they believe na camp ng mga terrorist, but then again its a known fact na ung mga locals e tinatago ung iba kasi binibigyan sila ng pera ng mga un parang Robin Hood effect nila kaya siguro hindi mabomba bomba ng bongang bonga ung mga lugar na yan dahil for sure madaming civilian na madadamay.

I can imagine what our president is going through right now.

It seems like he is trapped, unable to decide with a really good course of action.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: kamotequte on September 15, 2016, 12:43:17 PM
if only our military has satellite that can scan a place yung katulad sa america and other country  mahihirapan talagang magtago yang ASG ang nangyayari ngayon manual ang intelligence matagal at kapag nakikita ko sa tv na nagfifire sila ng mortar parang ang kalikasan lang talaga ang natatamaan at hindi ang ASG parang sayang pero sana may purpose yun like para idrive away sila dun sa spot na minomortar at para mapunta sa spot na gusto ng military.
Under the duterte administration they are focus on the improvement of our military and in fact the first move is to increase their salary and with the help of other nation we can have the most advance gadget and equipment to defeat the terrorist.
oo alam ko yan dahil kasama sa mga pangako niya yan nuong election ang point ko lang is kung ginawa yan nung mga previous administration ang pagpapalakas sa military natin di na siguro mahirap mahuli yung mga terrorist na yan kasi capable na ang military natin na tugisin kagad sila using advance equipment kaso ngayon mahirap ipagsabay ang pagpuksa sa kahirapan at pagpapaganda ng military kasi malaking budget ang kelangan dyan.

I'm sure the past administration was aware of the technologies available out there that we could have acquired.

Maybe they just don't care, or maybe even some people are benefiting from this war.

So instead of allotting effort and resources to equipment that can easily wipe out the terrorists, they simply use all our soldiers as a front to make it seem like they're doing something about this problem.

I was thinking na I carpet bomb nila ung areas where they believe na camp ng mga terrorist, but then again its a known fact na ung mga locals e tinatago ung iba kasi binibigyan sila ng pera ng mga un parang Robin Hood effect nila kaya siguro hindi mabomba bomba ng bongang bonga ung mga lugar na yan dahil for sure madaming civilian na madadamay.

I can imagine what our president is going through right now.

It seems like he is trapped, unable to decide with a really good course of action.

We have so many problems and it cant be solved by the Administration alone. Lets just stop the hate and get our acts together.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: marcuslong on September 15, 2016, 01:10:26 PM
OO naman yes, pero kung maari sana bago sumabak sa gera ang ating mga sundalo dapat muna nilang palitan ang kanilang mga baril upang me laban naman sila kahit papaano sa abu sayaff , ang mga abu sayaff kahit walang tanke meron naman silang mga bagong high powered gun na kong saan at umaabot ng 1km ang putok ng kanilang mga baril sa mantalang ang atin mga sundalo 400 meters lang.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: pri3oner on September 15, 2016, 03:58:17 PM
pros kung sakaling maubos lahat ng abu sayaff dito sa pilipinas cguro maraming papasok na negosyante at maiinvest sa dito. cons kung sakaling baka mauubos sila baka ang Commision on human rights nanaman ang kumontra dahil sasabhn nilang extra judicial killings mangyayare


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: Maslate on September 16, 2016, 05:18:31 AM
pros kung sakaling maubos lahat ng abu sayaff dito sa pilipinas cguro maraming papasok na negosyante at maiinvest sa dito. cons kung sakaling baka mauubos sila baka ang Commision on human rights nanaman ang kumontra dahil sasabhn nilang extra judicial killings mangyayare
That's right and the present administration should continue there all our war against the terrorist so for once and for all we can achieve peace in our nation, it is good to live in a place where you are confident you are secured.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: techgeek on September 16, 2016, 06:14:17 AM
pros kung sakaling maubos lahat ng abu sayaff dito sa pilipinas cguro maraming papasok na negosyante at maiinvest sa dito. cons kung sakaling baka mauubos sila baka ang Commision on human rights nanaman ang kumontra dahil sasabhn nilang extra judicial killings mangyayare
That's right and the present administration should continue there all our war against the terrorist so for once and for all we can achieve peace in our nation, it is good to live in a place where you are confident you are secured.

It would be easy if only we had money to buy advanced equipment.

Considering how small the Philippines is it would be impossible for the ASG to hide with an advanced tool


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: lissandra on September 16, 2016, 06:41:59 AM
pros kung sakaling maubos lahat ng abu sayaff dito sa pilipinas cguro maraming papasok na negosyante at maiinvest sa dito. cons kung sakaling baka mauubos sila baka ang Commision on human rights nanaman ang kumontra dahil sasabhn nilang extra judicial killings mangyayare
That's right and the present administration should continue there all our war against the terrorist so for once and for all we can achieve peace in our nation, it is good to live in a place where you are confident you are secured.

It would be easy if only we had money to buy advanced equipment.

Considering how small the Philippines is it would be impossible for the ASG to hide with an advanced tool

I saw one video just like that - it has night vision.

The people were just like ants and they were all getting killed with bombs and bullets


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: molsewid on September 16, 2016, 06:54:02 AM
malalaman natin ang saloobin ng ating mga kababayan tungkol sa isyu na ito..
Dapat kasi binobomba nalang yan hindi na makipag gera ang mga sundalo natin nababawasan pa mga matitinong tao sa mundo mahina kasi mga baril e so talo talaga kapag dating sa gera kaya nababawasan ang mga sundalo natin e airfore strike nalang yan pasabugin ang kagubatan


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: kamotequte on September 17, 2016, 03:30:44 AM
malalaman natin ang saloobin ng ating mga kababayan tungkol sa isyu na ito..
Dapat kasi binobomba nalang yan hindi na makipag gera ang mga sundalo natin nababawasan pa mga matitinong tao sa mundo mahina kasi mga baril e so talo talaga kapag dating sa gera kaya nababawasan ang mga sundalo natin e airfore strike nalang yan pasabugin ang kagubatan
As much as i want this to happen I highly doubt they will do this.
1. Too many civilians would be affected by this and for sure CHR would have a field day
2. Destroying our forest would make Environmentalist go nuts
3, This will do more harm than good on the part of the Administration


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: vindicare on September 17, 2016, 10:11:41 AM
malalaman natin ang saloobin ng ating mga kababayan tungkol sa isyu na ito..
Dapat kasi binobomba nalang yan hindi na makipag gera ang mga sundalo natin nababawasan pa mga matitinong tao sa mundo mahina kasi mga baril e so talo talaga kapag dating sa gera kaya nababawasan ang mga sundalo natin e airfore strike nalang yan pasabugin ang kagubatan
As much as i want this to happen I highly doubt they will do this.
1. Too many civilians would be affected by this and for sure CHR would have a field day
2. Destroying our forest would make Environmentalist go nuts
3, This will do more harm than good on the part of the Administration

tama yung points ni kamotequte kasi kung bobombahin yan magastos at mabuti kung naka trace sila sa satellite at confirm na abusayaf nga talaga yung binomba nila maraming madadamay kung pabara bara lang. Kung hindi lang siguro binara ni digong ang US pwede tayo humingi ng tulong kaso utang na loob nanaman yun at syempre may kapalit at ayaw magpatuta ni digong sa US.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: lissandra on September 20, 2016, 04:01:32 PM
malalaman natin ang saloobin ng ating mga kababayan tungkol sa isyu na ito..
Dapat kasi binobomba nalang yan hindi na makipag gera ang mga sundalo natin nababawasan pa mga matitinong tao sa mundo mahina kasi mga baril e so talo talaga kapag dating sa gera kaya nababawasan ang mga sundalo natin e airfore strike nalang yan pasabugin ang kagubatan
As much as i want this to happen I highly doubt they will do this.
1. Too many civilians would be affected by this and for sure CHR would have a field day
2. Destroying our forest would make Environmentalist go nuts
3, This will do more harm than good on the part of the Administration


Well you have a point.

Unless they are sure they can kill all and only the abu sayaff, plain bombing will only result to more chaos


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: passwordnow on September 21, 2016, 05:17:39 AM
malalaman natin ang saloobin ng ating mga kababayan tungkol sa isyu na ito..
Dapat kasi binobomba nalang yan hindi na makipag gera ang mga sundalo natin nababawasan pa mga matitinong tao sa mundo mahina kasi mga baril e so talo talaga kapag dating sa gera kaya nababawasan ang mga sundalo natin e airfore strike nalang yan pasabugin ang kagubatan
As much as i want this to happen I highly doubt they will do this.
1. Too many civilians would be affected by this and for sure CHR would have a field day
2. Destroying our forest would make Environmentalist go nuts
3, This will do more harm than good on the part of the Administration


Well you have a point.

Unless they are sure they can kill all and only the abu sayaff, plain bombing will only result to more chaos

It is hard to believe that they are just going to kill the abu sayyafs only. Because there is a possibility that some of these abu sayyafs when they are going to get arrested by the military men. They are just going to say that they are civilians and the military are going to have hard time in able to identify if they are saying true.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: Golftech on September 21, 2016, 05:42:59 AM
malalaman natin ang saloobin ng ating mga kababayan tungkol sa isyu na ito..
Dapat kasi binobomba nalang yan hindi na makipag gera ang mga sundalo natin nababawasan pa mga matitinong tao sa mundo mahina kasi mga baril e so talo talaga kapag dating sa gera kaya nababawasan ang mga sundalo natin e airfore strike nalang yan pasabugin ang kagubatan
As much as i want this to happen I highly doubt they will do this.
1. Too many civilians would be affected by this and for sure CHR would have a field day
2. Destroying our forest would make Environmentalist go nuts
3, This will do more harm than good on the part of the Administration


Well you have a point.

Unless they are sure they can kill all and only the abu sayaff, plain bombing will only result to more chaos

It is hard to believe that they are just going to kill the abu sayyafs only. Because there is a possibility that some of these abu sayyafs when they are going to get arrested by the military men. They are just going to say that they are civilians and the military are going to have hard time in able to identify if they are saying true.
thats the problem how to verify whether they are part of the groups or a civilian they can hide their identity unless government will surely arrest or kill them all in this war.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: techgeek on September 22, 2016, 05:03:39 AM
malalaman natin ang saloobin ng ating mga kababayan tungkol sa isyu na ito..
Dapat kasi binobomba nalang yan hindi na makipag gera ang mga sundalo natin nababawasan pa mga matitinong tao sa mundo mahina kasi mga baril e so talo talaga kapag dating sa gera kaya nababawasan ang mga sundalo natin e airfore strike nalang yan pasabugin ang kagubatan
As much as i want this to happen I highly doubt they will do this.
1. Too many civilians would be affected by this and for sure CHR would have a field day
2. Destroying our forest would make Environmentalist go nuts
3, This will do more harm than good on the part of the Administration


Well you have a point.

Unless they are sure they can kill all and only the abu sayaff, plain bombing will only result to more chaos

It is hard to believe that they are just going to kill the abu sayyafs only. Because there is a possibility that some of these abu sayyafs when they are going to get arrested by the military men. They are just going to say that they are civilians and the military are going to have hard time in able to identify if they are saying true.
thats the problem how to verify whether they are part of the groups or a civilian they can hide their identity unless government will surely arrest or kill them all in this war.

And another problem is if they kill a true civilian.

It can result to anger and hatred from the family who might join these rebels for revenge.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: lissandra on September 22, 2016, 05:36:02 AM

And another problem is if they kill a true civilian.

It can result to anger and hatred from the family who might join these rebels for revenge.

Well that's what I'm talking about.

If other people will be affected of course they will join the fight


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: akosieric on September 22, 2016, 08:19:55 AM
To wipe them out is the best thing to do. Pero alam naman natin war is business,  so why wipe out the guns and ammo buyers hahaha. Sana nga tunay na all-out-war ang ipairal ng gobyerno para matanggal na ang sakit sa ulo jan sa Mindanao.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: vindicare on September 22, 2016, 12:31:36 PM
hirap sabihin kung bakit parang walang balita sa ASG ngayon dahil ba sa pakikipag usap ni duterte kay nur misuari? or dahil talagang natabunan lang sa katabaan ni delima hahaha , sana e nagigipit lang sila dahil sa opensiba ng militar at lumiliit na ang mundo nila . Masyado ng malaki ang kelangan nilang bayaran at time na para singilin sila wala ng peace talks ganun din di rin susunod sa usapan.


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: techgeek on September 23, 2016, 04:44:12 AM
hirap sabihin kung bakit parang walang balita sa ASG ngayon dahil ba sa pakikipag usap ni duterte kay nur misuari? or dahil talagang natabunan lang sa katabaan ni delima hahaha , sana e nagigipit lang sila dahil sa opensiba ng militar at lumiliit na ang mundo nila . Masyado ng malaki ang kelangan nilang bayaran at time na para singilin sila wala ng peace talks ganun din di rin susunod sa usapan.

Hahaha that made me laugh.

But it's most probably because of De Lima alright.

The media is focused on that EJK hearing right now, most probably just to distract people from other issues like this ASG


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: lissandra on September 23, 2016, 05:09:30 AM
hirap sabihin kung bakit parang walang balita sa ASG ngayon dahil ba sa pakikipag usap ni duterte kay nur misuari? or dahil talagang natabunan lang sa katabaan ni delima hahaha , sana e nagigipit lang sila dahil sa opensiba ng militar at lumiliit na ang mundo nila . Masyado ng malaki ang kelangan nilang bayaran at time na para singilin sila wala ng peace talks ganun din di rin susunod sa usapan.

Hahaha that made me laugh.

But it's most probably because of De Lima alright.

The media is focused on that EJK hearing right now, most probably just to distract people from other issues like this ASG

Lol poor Delima.

But you guys are right it's all about getting the attention of the media and the masses to protect something else


Title: Re: ALL OUT WAR para sa ABU SAYAFF (Pros and Cons)
Post by: vindicare on September 25, 2016, 04:35:10 PM
hirap sabihin kung bakit parang walang balita sa ASG ngayon dahil ba sa pakikipag usap ni duterte kay nur misuari? or dahil talagang natabunan lang sa katabaan ni delima hahaha , sana e nagigipit lang sila dahil sa opensiba ng militar at lumiliit na ang mundo nila . Masyado ng malaki ang kelangan nilang bayaran at time na para singilin sila wala ng peace talks ganun din di rin susunod sa usapan.

Hahaha that made me laugh.

But it's most probably because of De Lima alright.

The media is focused on that EJK hearing right now, most probably just to distract people from other issues like this ASG
i cocorrect ko lang haha buti naalala ko si Nur Misuari pala e sa MNLF at hindi sa ASG still sinabi ni Nur na kung pwede e i stop ang opensiba ng AFP sa mindanao at hindi pumayag ang AFP tama naman kasi nasa momentum na sila tapos ihihinto pa . http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/816905/dnd-chief-misuari-wants-military-ops-to-stop-for-talks-for-release-of-sayyaf-captives (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/816905/dnd-chief-misuari-wants-military-ops-to-stop-for-talks-for-release-of-sayyaf-captives) eto yung story sa inquirer para di malito hehe