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Title: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: Sontoloyo on August 26, 2016, 10:38:53 AM
I got an email from my friend to join Scurmrr.com and buy KHs to start earning. From his stories return on investment not more 3 months, but I fear that ponzi sceme. How about you suggest? Regards.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: leowonderful on August 26, 2016, 10:56:34 AM
I was going to say wrong section just by looking at the title, but personally I would NEVER invest in cloud mining schemes as they will almost always be ponzis. You're going to be better off trading or hodling if you can't mine with physical miners. What's your electrical rate? If you haven't gone through the usual electricity cost and cooling cost stuff already, I recommend you do so.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: merelcoin on August 26, 2016, 11:01:19 AM
red flags:
  • unrealistic ROI
  • affliate program
  • FAQ only in russian
  • no contact info/ticket system

also, i found this via the forum's search function: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.msg15331119#msg15331119


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: poordeveloper on August 26, 2016, 05:18:37 PM
It's a ponzi. Don't waste your time.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: harizen on August 26, 2016, 05:21:49 PM
I got an email from my friend to join Scurmrr.com and buy KHs to start earning. From his stories return on investment not more 3 months, but I fear that ponzi sceme. How about you suggest? Regards.

It was listed as one of the bad sites in badbitcoin.org.

But even it's not, I considered that as a ponzi scheme.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: bapparabi on August 26, 2016, 06:52:44 PM
I got an email from my friend to join Scurmrr.com and buy KHs to start earning. From his stories return on investment not more 3 months, but I fear that ponzi sceme. How about you suggest? Regards.

scam scam ..same model hashocen is so stay away form that so that you will not lose money money


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: amacar2 on August 26, 2016, 07:57:29 PM
They are just another scam bro don't invest in them and ROI return within 3 months means atleast 2% daily return which is not possible from mining with the current price and difficulty. So obviously they are just another ponzi, SCAM ALERT.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: Hazir on August 26, 2016, 08:28:18 PM
Red flags all over the place. No Terms of Service anywhere. Site is not even finished, there are part only in Russian - other languages: English and Portuguese are missing.
No info about mining operations, owners, mining equipment location, business license etc. They can vanish at any time. Don't waste you time.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: clownius on August 26, 2016, 08:59:24 PM
Please check out my sig.  Do an assessment yourself against the criteria listed. 

Its remarkably good at predicting which sites are probably Ponzis

It wont of course save you if a legit company shuts down your unprofitable miners so do the math as well.  But it can at least save you from the worst scams


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: SANALIU on August 27, 2016, 03:39:12 PM
your must know , online investment majority is scheme ponzy
its low return or high return is same majority sheme ponzy
but is low return is own is good reputation and notc scamer will longterm and long life investment
example eobot is longterm until now still paid, but return very low bep is 2 year, so not competitif profit


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: vodaljepa on August 27, 2016, 03:44:50 PM
Dude that domain name is pretty much scammer.com


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: Kevin77 on August 27, 2016, 05:20:08 PM
Ok, here's the thing. People on the forum here have warped and misused the word Ponzi for a while now.  

By definition, a Ponzi has to be hiding the fact that the revenue paid out DEPENDS on the new revenue coming in and many of the sites that have opened over the past year were transparent on that fact and therefore not a Ponzi.

But a non ponzi too may scam you, this is what happening in cloud mining industry now a days. So, act sensibly.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: panjul07 on August 27, 2016, 05:21:44 PM
I got an email from my friend to join Scurmrr.com and buy KHs to start earning. From his stories return on investment not more 3 months, but I fear that ponzi sceme. How about you suggest? Regards.

Buy khs = cloud mining. Almost all cloud mining are ponzi scheme sites, they offers you ROI for few months only and gives you nice amount from referrals.
The only thing you should do from this kind of sites is STAY AWAY, unless you want to lose your money in a hope of nice profit.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: smho_16 on August 27, 2016, 07:46:06 PM
I got an email from my friend to join Scurmrr.com and buy KHs to start earning. From his stories return on investment not more 3 months, but I fear that ponzi sceme. How about you suggest? Regards.

Almost all of the investments opportunities for bitcoin in our time are 99% scams. You can try investing your bitcoins in casino that accepts investments like Moneypot. Cloud mining as industry is from long dead. The fact that Bitmain still haven't put up for use in their Hashnest the ANt s9 miners is another option that tell us that this industry has no future. If you want to mine, do solo mining, bitcoin or altcoin. So you have only 2 options for your bitcoins, first one is to save them and second one is to invest in a casino like Moneypot.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: satmas on August 27, 2016, 07:56:47 PM
red flags:
  • unrealistic ROI
  • affliate program
  • FAQ only in russian
  • no contact info/ticket system

also, i found this via the forum's search function: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.msg15331119#msg15331119
Judging by that list, that is a ponzi site that may have already turned scam.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: ImHash on August 27, 2016, 08:01:36 PM
Just stay away from any cloud mining services because hardly they can earn for themselves and how will they be able to pay you roi as well? just use a little of brain and you could see clearly that they are all either scams or ponzi and even if they are legit you never roi.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: JessicaG on August 27, 2016, 09:22:09 PM
Ok, here's the thing. People on the forum here have warped and misused the word Ponzi for a while now.  

By definition, a Ponzi has to be hiding the fact that the revenue paid out DEPENDS on the new revenue coming in and many of the sites that have opened over the past year were transparent on that fact and therefore not a Ponzi.

But a non ponzi too may scam you, this is what happening in cloud mining industry now a days. So, act sensibly.

What?  That site has a bunch of red flags all over the place, completely affiliated with a classic ponzi structure; I don't see them claiming anywhere that they can only exist when no new funds are not coming in, effectively meaning 'hiding' it.

But okay, let's not just call them a ponzi yet; because, it hasn't come out yet, right? Then, there's still the FACT of red flags all over the place, signaling at least to say that they are anything but legit  :)


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: CroSany on August 27, 2016, 09:32:08 PM
It is for sure ponzi scheme site so it is not good because yo was invest own money in that site so i think that it is better fr you to withdrawal your money really fast.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: tmfp on August 27, 2016, 09:53:25 PM
Please check out my sig.  Do an assessment yourself against the criteria listed. 

Its remarkably good at predicting which sites are probably Ponzis



It's on your list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.msg15574916#msg15574916) already, quite rightly as a complete scam.

I mean "scurmrr", c'mon guys, the clue's in the name..... ::)


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: BitcoinHunt3r on August 27, 2016, 10:06:05 PM
just avoid type site like that because it's all only ponzi scheme, or you will only lost your money


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: clownius on August 28, 2016, 12:50:05 AM
Please check out my sig.  Do an assessment yourself against the criteria listed. 

Its remarkably good at predicting which sites are probably Ponzis



It's on your list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.msg15574916#msg15574916) already, quite rightly as a complete scam.

I mean "scurmrr", c'mon guys, the clue's in the name..... ::)

Not my list and i dont generally research sites myself either.  I include it in my sig in the hope maybe someone will avoid a Ponzi.

Not that i have too much hope lol


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: ultrloa on August 28, 2016, 01:41:39 AM
I got an email from my friend to join Scurmrr.com and buy KHs to start earning. From his stories return on investment not more 3 months, but I fear that ponzi sceme. How about you suggest? Regards.


Don't just listen easily to your friend eventhough he say he got some profit there maybe he's intention for inviting you is to earn some referral bunos from your deposit, so its better for you to keep out on that site its because all of hyip site are scam, and that site has just been made just to scam people, they are stealers it was been talk by many people here so better think for it many times investing at that damn site since it is not very worth where you can place your money.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: HCP on August 28, 2016, 06:05:02 AM
It looks like it has pretty much got to the point where the flow chart for determining whether an "investment" site is a scam or not goes something like this:

Does the site want you to give them BTC?
  • Yes ---> Site is most likely a scam.
  • No ---> Site is most likely not a scam.

 ::)

As each day goes by, there are less and less "legit" investments and the only things left are "coin doublers", "cloud mining" and other HYIP offering ridiculous and unsustainable returns.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: numanoid on August 28, 2016, 08:53:25 AM
I got an email from my friend to join Scurmrr.com and buy KHs to start earning.
that means your friend support them for stealing people money. Didn't strange when you hear that site's name ? Scurmrr.com or maybe Scamrr.com!
Quote
From his stories return on investment not more 3 months, but I fear that ponzi sceme. How about you suggest? Regards.
So you believe that story just hearing without any proofs? This story is almost same with scrypt.cc before https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1017301.0, which offered ROI around 3 months too, and it's already become a scam site. Avoid any cloudmining sites.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: Sharma on August 28, 2016, 09:24:10 AM
I got an email from my friend to join Scurmrr.com and buy KHs to start earning. From his stories return on investment not more 3 months, but I fear that ponzi sceme. How about you suggest? Regards.
Ponzi usually gives high return to early investors to encourage them to bring more and more referrals.Once they have enough money,they run away.Cloud mining is the most dumbest concept.Should always be avoided


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: Sontoloyo on August 29, 2016, 01:12:29 AM
I was going to say wrong section just by looking at the title, but personally I would NEVER invest in cloud mining schemes as they will almost always be ponzis. You're going to be better off trading or hodling if you can't mine with physical miners. What's your electrical rate? If you haven't gone through the usual electricity cost and cooling cost stuff already, I recommend you do so.
Thank you very much for you remind me, I'm sorry if my question wrong section. Sometimes I also trading Bitcoin with Altcoin, but from reviewed some users here, I'm not join to this site.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: senyorito123 on August 29, 2016, 04:11:50 AM
I got an email from my friend to join Scurmrr.com and buy KHs to start earning. From his stories return on investment not more 3 months, but I fear that ponzi sceme. How about you suggest? Regards.
Ponzi usually gives high return to early investors to encourage them to bring more and more referrals.Once they have enough money,they run away.Cloud mining is the most dumbest concept.Should always be avoided

They do that and offer high ROI to there investor so they can lure more people to come and try to invest at their site,  but seriously this will be the baddest idea for people to do since we all know that hyips are their just to scam people,  maybe its better or shall we say a good idea if all people will just avoid any of those hyip site existing and newly build it's because we cannot really earn money their and the higher chance for us to get scam so better knock of some thoughs on investing at those.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: zenitzz on August 29, 2016, 05:01:25 AM
I got an email from my friend to join Scurmrr.com and buy KHs to start earning. From his stories return on investment not more 3 months, but I fear that ponzi sceme. How about you suggest? Regards.
Sure it's a cloud mining site are running system ponzi and I guarantee they will not be more than two months already collapsed.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: JITENDERPAR3 on August 29, 2016, 05:32:00 AM
it seems that this site is like investment and cludmining site . and i will never recommend any site which which related to the mining . because at the present time mining is not more profitable through hardware so i think all the sites which provide the mining facility will be ponzi . so keep distance from this site .


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: cengsuwuei on August 29, 2016, 05:55:49 AM
majority online investment all only ponzy scheme
you know ponzy or not , only you can see its company real can get money in this bussnines or not


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: FaucetRank.com on August 29, 2016, 06:41:10 AM
just avoid type site like that because it's all only ponzi scheme, or you will only lost your money
i'm agree with these words because i have faced many scam cloud mining websites I have lost my money which I earned working hard. Do not give your hard earned money to these pozi websites those scammers become fat guy scamming people.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: bapparabi on August 29, 2016, 08:04:59 AM
I think its pretty easy for a experienced user to find weather this is ponzi or not the first thing is if the scheme is too good to be true then it’s a ponzi and nowdays you can just search on google about it and you will find many reviews which let u know that weather its ponzi or not.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: milewilda on August 29, 2016, 11:38:34 AM
I got an email from my friend to join Scurmrr.com and buy KHs to start earning. From his stories return on investment not more 3 months, but I fear that ponzi sceme. How about you suggest? Regards.

Just another cloud mining ponzi site, dont  intend to put any money you had  on that website for sure  they would ran all of those money of yours. I experienced such losses from previous  cloud mining site thats why i dont  ever try again to invest  on those cloud mining sites because  they dont even last long and you cant even reach your roi.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: Jasad on August 29, 2016, 01:02:24 PM
I think its pretty easy for a experienced user to find weather this is ponzi or not the first thing is if the scheme is too good to be true then it’s a ponzi and nowdays you can just search on google about it and you will find many reviews which let u know that weather its ponzi or not.
op are talking about buying KHs and it is a cloudmining ,
actually in 2013 to 2014 a cloud mining was still profitable ,
it is just now the cloudmining services turned to a ponzi style ,
and i guess it is because the bitcoin difficulty increased , nowadays you should never trust to any bitcoin cloudmining. just it


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: RichDaniel on August 29, 2016, 01:36:20 PM
Definitely this kind of cloud mining site is a ponzi scheme site, 100% confirmed scam, with so high ROI return rate, it shows itself the ponzi or hyip scams. Many people lost huge money on such kind of ponzi scams, you just don't join it and save money for legit sites, or trading bitcoin daily, be a daily trader can be very profitable.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: Ardenyham on August 29, 2016, 02:14:04 PM
I got an email from my friend to join Scurmrr.com and buy KHs to start earning. From his stories return on investment not more 3 months, but I fear that ponzi sceme. How about you suggest? Regards.

It was listed as one of the bad sites in badbitcoin.org.

But even it's not, I considered that as a ponzi scheme.

I already knew that this is a clear ponzi scam.. the biggest thing to prove them scam is that is a cloudmining site and it is enough to declare this a ponzi.
and now if they are listed in badbitcoin.org then there is nothing remain to say. badbitcoin.org have a great reputation and they list a site after proper research. 


Dude that domain name is pretty much scammer.com
nice punch man.. you noticed very special thing. LOL...


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: BitHodler on August 30, 2016, 02:58:02 PM
Everything just screams STAY AWAY. That being said, cloud mining is a wasted industry because most of the services end up being nothing more than a scam.

Also, cloud mining in general is not rewarding at all with the current difficulty. People should ignore cloud mining completely.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: reb0rn21 on August 30, 2016, 09:46:06 PM
Even worst then a ponzy, its a SCAM
You just need to read few info about Garza, Josh, hashlets, etc...any hashing plan was a scam, maybe not from a begining, some had decent plan but it all fall apart and even if there is good start it will fall

So far none hashing endovers finished with happy ppl, maybe some managed to profit if they were first to enter and first to exit! I had hashlet and before that LTC hash miner, I managed to come clean, no profit no negativ... but I exited at right moment if I had not i would lost 70%


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: JeffBrad12 on August 30, 2016, 11:12:09 PM
http://www.easyhyip.com/en/projects/scurmrr.com
http://netbusinessrating.com/en/review-18030-scurmrr
Scam,scam and scam site. I have a suggestion for you op before if you are wanna talking about i think better for you for searching it with yourself.
And you're question is already answered from a lot of people.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: Backside walkaround on August 30, 2016, 11:56:14 PM
It's a ponzi. Don't waste your time.
They're all ponzis, but am I the only one who's suspecting that OP is not really asking the question he's purporting to ask?

If genuine, then I'd say just stay as far away from cloud mining as you can get.  That's a sure way to lose your money.  Mining these days is for those who can afford the rigs, and cloud mining is for suckers.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: Galer on August 31, 2016, 12:19:05 AM
Usually all of the pozi cloud mining site using email bomb as a marketing strategy to get more investor to come.But if you want to invest that site you must search something about that site if scam or not.


Title: Re: Want to know this is ponzi or not
Post by: Wong_Djadoel on August 31, 2016, 05:39:23 AM
Usually all of the pozi cloud mining site using email bomb as a marketing strategy to get more investor to come.But if you want to invest that site you must search something about that site if scam or not.
Besides email bomb also use social media to get members, ponzi cloud mining also give up to 10% referral bonus, best recommend site to cloud mining is in here.