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Title: Confirm that i own an address that cames from Yobit or other service provider.
Post by: Totalreturnfund on August 26, 2016, 11:49:06 AM
Hallo,

I staked on forum following addresses:

18GTv1CFmMTVCyzcynB5Y9RPxy89vGHdFA  - From 1Broker
1P2zMTqBGdzvbyojzzBHEKm1Np8ACa8Zi3 - From Yobit

Sign a message from this wallet is not allowed, so how i coul confirm in future that i own this addresses yet?


Title: Re: Confirm that i own an address that cames from Yobit or other service provider.
Post by: altcoinhosting on August 26, 2016, 11:53:09 AM
Hallo,

I staked on forum following addresses:

18GTv1CFmMTVCyzcynB5Y9RPxy89vGHdFA  - From 1Broker
1P2zMTqBGdzvbyojzzBHEKm1Np8ACa8Zi3 - From Yobit

Sign a message from this wallet is not allowed, so how i coul confirm in future that i own this addresses yet?

if those are your yobit and 1broker deposit addresses, i don't think it's possible to proof they're your deposit addresses... At least, not in a good, decent way.
You could always make a screenshot or youtube video showing how you log in to those sites, and that it is indeed your address, but such proof carries little weight around here i'm afraid.

I'd suggest re-staking a good address (an address from which you own the private key, either directly, or as part of a wallet that allows you to sign messages)


Title: Re: Confirm that i own an address that cames from Yobit or other service provider.
Post by: onlinedragon on August 26, 2016, 11:59:02 AM
That will be really hard because Yobit and 1Broker could also be compromised by hackers. Most simple solution download a wallet that is able to sign a message and stake a new address on this forum. I know that Electrum can do the job and is a trusted wallet.


Title: Re: Confirm that i own an address that cames from Yobit or other service provider.
Post by: electronicash on August 26, 2016, 12:07:06 PM
That will be really hard because Yobit and 1Broker could also be compromised by hackers. Most simple solution download a wallet that is able to sign a message and stake a new address on this forum. I know that Electrum can do the job and is a trusted wallet.

i understand staking is important to secure an account here in bitcointalk but why would your account be hacked in the first place?
if you are unsure about getting hacked, try using linux system and use a real hard password containing 24 characters with all the symbols, numbers, upper and lowercase letters.

another reason i think why someone would stake a message is that, you'd be selling this account. are you?


Title: Re: Confirm that i own an address that cames from Yobit or other service provider.
Post by: Xanidas on August 26, 2016, 12:49:05 PM
you can only prove you own those addresses by showing a screenshot and/or a video. if you are worry about proving your account to be yours by signing a message from it, you can now start posting your new address which you have full control so you can provide a signed message whenever you need it


Title: Re: Confirm that i own an address that cames from Yobit or other service provider.
Post by: onlinedragon on August 26, 2016, 12:53:51 PM
That will be really hard because Yobit and 1Broker could also be compromised by hackers. Most simple solution download a wallet that is able to sign a message and stake a new address on this forum. I know that Electrum can do the job and is a trusted wallet.

i understand staking is important to secure an account here in bitcointalk but why would your account be hacked in the first place?
if you are unsure about getting hacked, try using linux system and use a real hard password containing 24 characters with all the symbols, numbers, upper and lowercase letters.

another reason i think why someone would stake a message is that, you'd be selling this account. are you?

Why people get hacked can have different reasons and it would not be the first time that someone is victim. Good explanation about it can be found here:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0)



Title: Re: Confirm that i own an address that cames from Yobit or other service provider.
Post by: Cloverdale on August 26, 2016, 12:59:31 PM
Hallo,

I staked on forum following addresses:

18GTv1CFmMTVCyzcynB5Y9RPxy89vGHdFA  - From 1Broker
1P2zMTqBGdzvbyojzzBHEKm1Np8ACa8Zi3 - From Yobit

Sign a message from this wallet is not allowed, so how i coul confirm in future that i own this addresses yet?
There is no way you can provide a proof unless giving them the access to that account itself. You can try to talk with whoever you are proving that the address is yours and tell them you can make a transaction in that address just to prove you have access to it.
Next time stake a address from a wallet you can sign so you will not have this kind of problem.


Title: Re: Confirm that i own an address that cames from Yobit or other service provider.
Post by: Herbert2020 on August 26, 2016, 01:12:23 PM
Hallo,

I staked on forum following addresses:

18GTv1CFmMTVCyzcynB5Y9RPxy89vGHdFA  - From 1Broker
1P2zMTqBGdzvbyojzzBHEKm1Np8ACa8Zi3 - From Yobit

Sign a message from this wallet is not allowed, so how i coul confirm in future that i own this addresses yet?

if those are your yobit and 1broker deposit addresses, i don't think it's possible to proof they're your deposit addresses... At least, not in a good, decent way.
You could always make a screenshot or youtube video showing how you log in to those sites, and that it is indeed your address, but such proof carries little weight around here i'm afraid.

I'd suggest re-staking a good address (an address from which you own the private key, either directly, or as part of a wallet that allows you to sign messages)

screenshot or even a video is not a good proof because they can both be modified and faked. and doing it is not hard either.

to OP: if you are trying to do a transaction only like a trade which you have to prove your ownership (like in case of selling your account), instead you can ask the other person to send the payment to that address he is asking a signature from.


Title: Re: Confirm that i own an address that cames from Yobit or other service provider.
Post by: Totalreturnfund on August 26, 2016, 01:22:54 PM
Thank all for reply,

Well, i think that is important to sign old wallet not only for selling or for loaning. Sign an old message is the proof of identity that confirm you are the same owner of the address since it was staked.


Title: Re: Confirm that i own an address that cames from Yobit or other service provider.
Post by: Omegasun on August 26, 2016, 01:43:15 PM
Thank all for reply,

Well, i think that is important to sign old wallet not only for selling or for loaning. Sign an old message is the proof of identity that confirm you are the same owner of the address since it was staked.

It is true. Can i ask you a question so that i can help you. Do you have same username on yobit and bitcointalk? If you have. You make a video on your yobit account. Start from login until to your yobit wallet address that you want to be verify.


Title: Re: Confirm that i own an address that cames from Yobit or other service provider.
Post by: European Central Bank on August 26, 2016, 03:30:00 PM
for the purposes of staking only i'd stick to blockchain.info. I wouldn't leave coins on there just in case but that's the easiest option for signable messages only. unless you control the private keys you probably can't stake.


Title: Re: Confirm that i own an address that cames from Yobit or other service provider.
Post by: NorrisK on August 26, 2016, 05:04:04 PM
If I were you I'd stake a different address to make sure you are able to sign it. Best even to sign it right away with your staking post so all proof can be quoted directly.

Many (all?) of the light wallets allow you to sign a message, so it would be really easy for you to set it up correctly and no be dependant on the service providers to sign a message for you. It will also be quite difficult for them probably, as "your" address is simply a forwarding address linked to your account. Most likely most of the people don't have access to the private keys to these addresses.

Make sure you back up the seed for the wallet you create, otherwise it will still be impossible to sign it if you lose the wallet someone on your pc and make sure it is not compromised, as then everybody can claim your account.


Title: Re: Confirm that i own an address that cames from Yobit or other service provider.
Post by: Relnarien on August 26, 2016, 08:39:27 PM
Hallo,

I staked on forum following addresses:

18GTv1CFmMTVCyzcynB5Y9RPxy89vGHdFA  - From 1Broker
1P2zMTqBGdzvbyojzzBHEKm1Np8ACa8Zi3 - From Yobit

Sign a message from this wallet is not allowed, so how i coul confirm in future that i own this addresses yet?

It's useless to stake those addresses even if you were able to sign a message with them. The whole point of staking an address on BCT is to prove that you, as a BCT member who owns a particular account, are also in possession and in sole control of a unique private key. Since the people over at Yobit and 1Broker also have unfettered access to the aforementioned addresses (and thus the corresponding private keys), then any signed message from them would prove nothing.

Additionally, altcoin exchanges reserve the right to replace the deposit addresses of their users when it is deemed necessary. Some exchanges even allow users to voluntarily replace their deposit addresses. You know how some exchanges tell you beforehand not to mine to your deposit address or to always check your deposit address before sending coins to them -- that's in case the deposit address was replaced due to some unforeseen circumstance.

Eseentially, any signed message from an altcoin exchange's deposit address would not prove ownership of anything.

P.S. Ignore the earlier advices which don't know what they're talking about.