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It's a shame the people of china have no spine or balls to have a Civil War for their own freedom.  Live as Slaves until you wake up and revolt....Christ there is enough of you to get the job done.

Maybe they like being in such situation after all. Theyve been thay way for so long already,   they unified their government by how strong the military force and war of kingdoms since ancient time.

27 years later from 1989 , china government still son of bitch is !!!

Censoring the God given right of expression is a very serious crime.

One thing that is let to be determined is how much the Chinese gov is paying the Clinton foundation to demonize Russia in the west. This is one could have serious consequences...

Then how much the chineses are demonizing the west to the Russians... This one is easy for the Russians side to determine.

Then how is China playing Ukraine war to antagonize Russia and the west.

If Taylor swift isn't good enough for Chinese gov, frankly I would raise the issue at the G20 in their fucking faces, China isn't good enough for me.

Edit: apparently she could get there...

At one point it's important to say enough, what eve the size of the bully he is nothing in comparison to might of God... An his punishment is as just than unavoidable.

And finally what I don't like is their tendency to spread their governmental practices... Ie censorship backed by utmost violence against all dissidence to hide a professional looting enterprise. The Chinese top officials live in total luxury (specially known as the red kings, and the "private" linked sectors.

And very seriously their actives management of market pricing will not be forgotten anytime soon. You don't ban shorting who ever the fuck you are.

Christ cant let them free i guess because he isnt alive but  i am sure that chinese people can fight for their rights agaist chinese official. please be logical and dont hope things from imaginary things such as god, christ, moses, mohammad , buddha etc.

The difficulty is that once they assault the home of a critics they freeze the computers with gas so that what is in the ram can be preserved for further analysis... But most of the time, straight to Inner Mongolia farming wow gold coins for the prison lord.

as expected from the Chinese, Chinese do not respect human rights, they live in a different world. if a foreigner travels to china and criticize the Chinese government? I pity of foreign, because surely this foreigner will suffer, I will set a good example:

One of the provinces of my country, the Chinese have built a city only for Chinese, workers of that city are tortured and the workers don't report this situation because they fear reprisals. The Chinese are obsessed with money and power. They not content to oppress their own people, oppress any people where they go.

This is exactly what I fear. How they intend to spread their way of governance worldwide.

How they support Clinton (I am sure that they contributed to the foundation).

And how I never heard Chinese speaking about peace or self-determination.

O words on a peaceful solution in Ukraine. Total support for Assad... (Not because they feared an Islamic state ready to attack them like the Russians) but simply because they oppose all form of self-governance to anyone.

How they support Iran and want to spread so called peaceful nuclear technologies.

Their will to censor Internet and which role they will play once icann isn't American anymore.

Their active participations in a lot of destabilization in Africa to extract what ever without any regards for the environment.

Yeah like you said a certain contempt for life in general...

Finally contrary to Russia they are still communists (what ever it may mean in China).

You say that because you think that the government of china is a dictator? China is not a dictatorship, as they do not have a dictator. They are an authoritarian regime, with a not so elected government that tells its people what to do, and does not have to worry about elections kicking them out.

Be sure it is, de jure at least. Just check their constitution, it declares Chinese regime as "People's democratic dictatorship".

My theory is that in terms of material comforts, the rule of the CCP since Deng Xiaoping was probably the best for 'the people.'  More abstract ideas about 'liberty' and what-not are not as highly valued as in other systems.  Russell put his finger on it when he said that the people will be happy because the leaders tell them they are.  Many (but not all) mainlanders I know are fairly stead-fast in the basic belief that 'liberty' and 'freedom' are actually negatives.  Interestingly, many of the 'regressive left' Westerners I know are 'coming around' to seeing things this way as well.

Anyway, what was yesterday will not be tomorrow.  The Chinese people are living 'high' on borrowed time.  They are the beneficiaries of 'globalistic' transfers of wealth and content under this rising tide mainly because their fairly recent past has been so awful.  The 1,300,000,000 souls will undergo a plateau and steep plunge down the other side with the next global monetary re-implementation except...

...the globalists who've been using the nation as a plaint workshop and testing ground will depopulate it as severely as any other, and I'll bet that it will be with as much cooperation from the CCP as has been the case during the build-up.

I think we all know that Chinas' goverment was a little too totalitarianistic since always, so things like this shouldnt realy be a surprise...

oh, cmon dude... Are you being serious? If you ask me, china is very close to being one of the worst dictatorship countries in the world (not speaking economically but for the freedom of people).

What is fun is that a group of people believe that Chinese citizens aren't interested by freedom and liberty. That they love to censored and told what to do or not...

I would ask those idiots why do you think most Chinese once wealthy enough send their kids outside?

The transition toward a freer society is possible but a regression too.

I know from my personal conversations that a decent fraction of mainland Chinese support their government's stance on these kinds of things for the protection of society at large.  Or at least the perception of this (which is in my opinion somewhat valid given the realpolitik.)  My sense from my conversations is that this sentiment has been conditioned in from early childhood.


Opportunity.  Mostly an opportunity make more money.

Many of the more wealthy Chinese are probably well aware of the desirability of diversifying in a general sense because of the multiple points of frailty of their society.  China has more challenges than most.  Even those individuals who do truly value freedom, liberty, etc, are probably and rightly terrified that it might actually happen.


...whatever that means.  I'm guessing that China will see a regression but it will not compare to what is seen in the West.  We simply have a lot farther to fall.

bro, if you have time you should read more books about chinese history, they never stop against dictatorship even nowadays

Lots of good points thanks for sharing. I think these drives toward liberty and freedom are an inherent part of being an human beings. Some are lost and become low durability biological drones... Or fall to the demons.

However most chineses are good people, and you know without any warming one day, without anyone realizing it the cccp will fall. The good people of China will rise as they always have. Generally it get serious when the security apparatus joins. Fat pigs feasting vs risking your life... Sooner or later the best option become slaughtering the pigs while hoping not to become them.

Remember what a Tunisian fruit trader has started isn't over... Shockwaves may get a slower frequency... It doesn't mean they get weaker... And who could have predicted it? Human management is incompatible with the exponential expansionist nature of some of mankind... A kid born in Lumbini a while ago for example...

When those guys wrote that could they imagine what they were setting in motion?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed…."

And crazier that they would succeed? When the wind of providence blows, who knows how far it will go...

That's why they take it out one their dogs and cats in the Yulin dog meat festival - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1592479.msg15994326#msg15994326.

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I never said that my informants were not good people.  Generally speaking they were/are fine people.  One can be thoroughly indoctrinated and still be a good person, and indeed, sacrificing oneself 'for the greater good' can be argued to be quite a 'good' thing.

One of my current interests is in trying to figure out the intricacies of indoctrination, conditioning, brainwashing...pick your term...  I am myself one of my chief informants.  Certainly I was subject to successful indoctrination via the state efforts (and others) and I'm sure I still 'suffer' from some of this.  Others of it I've untangled myself from.  And, to my credit, I was unusually resistant to a lot of it at a fairly early age for whatever set of reason.

Congratulations! The further away you get from the conditioning the more you see it...

It's a kind of tradition, maybe. But I'd say that modern socialist republic is far more democratic than any of the previous Chinese regimes. Including the so-called Republic of China aka Taiwan.

totally bullshit, have a look what USSR did in the past !!! >:(

It's interesting, delightful, and horrifying.  I recommend it for those who can.

Ow this is the worst thing that i saw right now. .their government was not good this is not good . because here in my country chinese people our teritory that we have a island near in japan that even the whole world saying that the island is was for philippines teritory not in china.
Almost fisher mens here are fear from china because they are still trying to depend the island from philipines even its already clear that island was our teritory..
Their government are sucks.. they are just lying i think about they will listening  what the world court decision..

Remember this when approaching the conditionned:

https://bittenbythefantasybug.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/10365568_477806255683648_2266292705547768994_o.jpg

Good conditioning is most of the time internally integrated by the person. It becomes part of his identity. Furthermore it often has defense mechanisms in build with routines quick in as soon as the conditioning is attacked.

Rememeber the further away you get from conditioning the closer to Truth, reality and God you get... This is the path of your soul. You aren't walking alone ;) no fear.

Yes indeed!  If one feels an immediate pang of rage at the mention of something, there may well have been some conditioning involved.  Watch for it in oneself and others.

The trigger words 'God' and 'Christian' are several which have impacted me in the past.  I maintain my position as an atheist but for whatever reason my reaction to these two ideas is no longer a 'short sharp shock'.  This reaction seemed to have worn off rather than simply vanished, and some time actually pondering the sociological manifestations of religion generally seemed to have contributed to the wearing off effect.

I really noticed this phenomenon about 25 years ago when someone mentioned the Kennedy assassination.  I became immediately enraged or nearly so.  So much so that it caught my attention enough to really wonder if there might actually be something mysterious going on wrt conditioning.  I've always been a fan of alternate theories/hypotheses due to my interest in science and never had a lot of trust in the authorities so I really should not have had this reaction organically.  Even back then.

To see it in oneself is a sign of great awareness... I am far from it, or too unconditionable :D.

Ten minutes long speech about Bolsheviks:

https://youtu.be/7YIcMrcihvU

Probably yes, they are son of a bitch. Why? Because they have a greedy mindset. There gods is their money. They only want power in their life. God we need to destroy them. They have no heart. They kill species animal and dogs to have money.

WE NEED REVOLUTION

Yes China.  The country where people were so cruel with animals.  They eat almost everything.  From fetuses, loyal dogs, and gentle giant whales.  I do not know why do they eat everything.  Their beliefs were out of this world.  Fake foods were manufactured their.  Everything were duplicated or copied. They even claiming lands that are not really owned by them. 

some lands which you talk about really belong to china, not to PRC, but to ROC (Taiwan)


some lands  Mao Zedong gave out to Vietnam as a gift, this mother fucker was really a bullshit

China is the worst ways of governance so far. They don't preserve they just use and use and use and never renew what they have taken, because for them Money is all that matters, they thought that if they have so much money they could do anything they want. Their government takes no action in taking care of its people, they just do they thought was right, even if sacrificing even the most precious things on their land. Their GREEDINESS is what have made them now.

exactly..

on the other side, western world in recent years plays much more  appeasement policy than ever on china issue keeping one eye closed only for economic motivation >:(

USSR murdered about 20 mil of people who were against system,
they have work camps in syberia where people have nothing to eat.
North Korea have such camps all time if look at China those people are saints.
But China is communism country so what you espect freedom there so far outside China
don't bring death like USA and Russia do in middle east or kaukaz.