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Title: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: TechorMarketing on August 28, 2016, 07:51:08 AM The XMR vs DASH battle over, with the good guys (team cryptography) taking the win.
Now for our next battle.... When will the market cap of Aeon (https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/832/does-aeon-have-a-development-roadmap) exceed Dashpay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0)? Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: spartak_t on August 28, 2016, 08:04:51 AM I'm not sure if its safe to say that Monero "won" the "race". Dash is already a "winner", making few people rich. Can't exactly recall, but over 1.5Mn DASH were premined in the first 10-12 hours from the launch, so...
XMR on the other hand is heavily pumped in the past week and I don't think that this would last for too long. Don't know almost anything about Aeon, but comparing it with dem both is not serious imho. Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: qwizzie on August 29, 2016, 06:38:17 PM I'm not sure if its safe to say that Monero "won" the "race". Dash is already a "winner", making few people rich. Can't exactly recall, but over 1.5Mn DASH were premined in the first 10-12 hours from the launch, so... XMR on the other hand is heavily pumped in the past week and I don't think that this would last for too long. Don't know almost anything about Aeon, but comparing it with dem both is not serious imho. Premine is actually mining pre-launch and is applicable to several cryptocurrencies, coinmarketcap indicate those cryptocurrencies with a * Dash has never been premined, that is a fact that can be verified by studying its blockchain and by checking coinmarketcap --> http://coinmarketcap.com/ Instamine is a broad definition and includes a number of cryptocurrencies like Dash where its first 24 hours where accidentally (due to faulty code together with massive cloud mining interest) a lot of coins were generated, Monero where due to the release of intentionly slow mining software an unfair advantage was created by those who used optimized miner software and kept it a secret and Bitcoin where 1 million Bitcoins were mined by one single person / group (Satoshi). The degree of instamine varies between these cryptocurrencies obviously but they all fit the instamine categorie. To know more about Dash instamine history : https://i.imgur.com/0bMGI4J.jpg https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118 Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: spartak_t on August 29, 2016, 06:55:26 PM @qwizzie
There are persons (not saying people, because some of them are with unknown identity) from both "camps", which I personally don't like (at least their actions). What I am trying to say is: good luck to Dash and Monero, I don't care. P.S. You're right, it was not a premine. My expression was wrong, but that's because of my english. ;) P.S.2. I know about Monero's launch as well. Cheers, Spartak Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: qwizzie on August 29, 2016, 07:05:48 PM @qwizzie There are persons (not saying people, because some of them are with unknown identity) from both "camps", which I personally don't like (at least their actions). What I am trying to say is: good luck to Dash and Monero, I don't care. P.S. You're right, it was not a premine. My expression was wrong, but that's because of my english. ;) P.S.2. I know about Monero's launch as well. Cheers, Spartak Allright, thanks for the clarification and good luck with your own cryptocurrency. cheers, qwizzie To OP : most likely when Monero's marketcap exceeds Bitcoin marketcap. and its Dash by the way, not Dashpay. Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: spartak_t on August 29, 2016, 07:16:56 PM We are very far from there and it's not mine, but thanks, much appreciated.
Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: newb4now on August 31, 2016, 08:45:52 PM There is no doubt that Aeon has better privacy technology than Dashpay.
However I think it will take some time (probably over a year) for the AEON and DASH market caps to reach parity for three reasons: 1. Aeon is not very well known yet 2. Aeon still has a low network hashrate and therefore is potentially susceptible to a 51% attack 3. While HYIPs generally will ultimately crash and burn, they can in some cases last a very long time. Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: BTKC on September 01, 2016, 05:41:28 AM Getting the trading pairs Aeon/BTC & Aeon/XMR on polo would be a good start..
Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: bbc.reporter on September 01, 2016, 06:09:31 AM The XMR vs DASH battle over, with the good guys (team cryptography) taking the win. Now for our next battle.... When will the market cap of Aeon (https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/832/does-aeon-have-a-development-roadmap) exceed Dashpay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0)? This will really be funny if it will really happen. I can now imagine Evan Duffield scratching his head and asking himself why this is happening. But before that could happen everyone is watching Monero and are waiting if it could go higher or maintain its market value at the very least. If it can do one of those then expect happy days for Aeon ahead. Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: smoothie on September 01, 2016, 06:11:08 AM I'm not sure if its safe to say that Monero "won" the "race". Dash is already a "winner", making few people rich. Can't exactly recall, but over 1.5Mn DASH were premined in the first 10-12 hours from the launch, so... Your definitions of "success" is making people rich?XMR on the other hand is heavily pumped in the past week and I don't think that this would last for too long. Don't know almost anything about Aeon, but comparing it with dem both is not serious imho. Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: spartak_t on September 01, 2016, 08:42:35 AM I'm not sure if its safe to say that Monero "won" the "race". Dash is already a "winner", making few people rich. Can't exactly recall, but over 1.5Mn DASH were premined in the first 10-12 hours from the launch, so... Your definitions of "success" is making people rich?XMR on the other hand is heavily pumped in the past week and I don't think that this would last for too long. Don't know almost anything about Aeon, but comparing it with dem both is not serious imho. Of course not, but sadly it is how majority of the people are looking at the cryptocurrencies since 2013. If you can't make money out of a coin, then it is a fail. It is the main reason to say that Litecoin (for example) is boring. :) No masternodes, anonymity and yada-yada. Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: Das on September 01, 2016, 01:14:20 PM People have said it lots of times: Litecoin will soon die. But the coin keeps going, you will be shocked the price of the coin three years from now. ;D
Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: languagehasmeaning on September 03, 2016, 02:07:23 AM My wild guess is 9 months.
Aeon may not have to rise to anywhere close to the current Dashpay marketcap for this to happen. Once long time DASH users realize that Dash privacy features are severely lacking and not catching up with the competition, prices will start to plummet as masternodes get sold I think the Aeon and DASH market caps will eventually meet somewhere in the neighborhood of 25% of the current DASH market cap (after DASH falls 75% and Aeon rises to that same valuation). This is just my wild speculation, so make your own conclusion. Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: bbc.reporter on September 03, 2016, 07:43:55 AM One day it will exceed the market cap of Dash. Because why? Dash will go down in market cap while Aeon will rise as long as the price of XMR is going up and that there is still interest in it. When the darknet markets have started accepting it I do not think the interest in XMR will go away from now on. It will only increase! Aeon will then also ride on Monero's popularity because of of the developer Smooth.
Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: TechorMarketing on September 09, 2016, 02:39:23 AM RingCT will be here sometime soon. Once Aeon merges it, there may be a good chance for it gain some interest from Dashpay users that want superior privacy than what Darksend can provide. RingCT is revolutionary but some Dashpay users have been indoctrinated to hate Monero. Aeon may become their next best option.
Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: infofront on September 09, 2016, 04:37:37 AM My wild guess is 9 months. Aeon may not have to rise to anywhere close to the current Dashpay marketcap for this to happen. Once long time DASH users realize that Dash privacy features are severely lacking and not catching up with the competition, prices will start to plummet as masternodes get sold I think the Aeon and DASH market caps will eventually meet somewhere in the neighborhood of 25% of the current DASH market cap (after DASH falls 75% and Aeon rises to that same valuation). This is just my wild speculation, so make your own conclusion. So many staples of the top 10 marketcap list have come and gone over the years. DASH will just be one more. I'm predicting it'll probably be out of the top 20 by early next year. It's already in the process of fading to obscurity. Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: Dinki on September 12, 2016, 02:32:14 AM To OP : most likely when Monero's marketcap exceeds Bitcoin marketcap. and its Dash by the way, not Dashpay. Will Monero's market cap ever exceed that of bitcoin? ??? Highly unlikely! Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: DARKHOLDER on October 09, 2016, 07:59:22 PM One day it will exceed the market cap of Dash. Because why? Dash will go down in market cap while Aeon will rise as long as the price of XMR is going up and that there is still interest in it. When the darknet markets have started accepting it I do not think the interest in XMR will go away from now on. It will only increase! Aeon will then also ride on Monero's popularity because of of the developer Smooth. And how about dash Evolution- think it be on next year? price will skyrocketing 1Dash will be 20-30$.. thoughts?Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: N-rG on October 19, 2016, 07:47:28 PM My wild guess is 9 months. Aeon may not have to rise to anywhere close to the current Dashpay marketcap for this to happen. Once long time DASH users realize that Dash privacy features are severely lacking and not catching up with the competition, prices will start to plummet as masternodes get sold I think the Aeon and DASH market caps will eventually meet somewhere in the neighborhood of 25% of the current DASH market cap (after DASH falls 75% and Aeon rises to that same valuation). This is just my wild speculation, so make your own conclusion. So many staples of the top 10 marketcap list have come and gone over the years. DASH will just be one more. I'm predicting it'll probably be out of the top 20 by early next year. It's already in the process of fading to obscurity. +1 Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: adhitthana on November 10, 2016, 09:46:59 PM Don't know almost anything about Aeon, but comparing it with dem both is not serious imho. Aeon is a very similar cryptonote coin and the lead developer is one of the original Monero core developers.Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: N-rG on November 10, 2016, 10:24:06 PM Don't know almost anything about Aeon, but comparing it with dem both is not serious imho. Aeon is a very similar cryptonote coin and the lead developer is one of the original Monero core developers.Its just another coin for speculation. I should just copy the Monero repository and call a new coin out like "PMC" (PrintMoneyCoin) ::) All the alts...so unnecessary Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: adhitthana on November 12, 2016, 03:18:24 AM Don't know almost anything about Aeon, but comparing it with dem both is not serious imho. Aeon is a very similar cryptonote coin and the lead developer is one of the original Monero core developers.Its just another coin for speculation. I should just copy the Monero repository and call a new coin out like "PMC" (PrintMoneyCoin) ::) All the alts...so unnecessary Monero is $6.70 and Aeon is $0.04 Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: Dassi on November 12, 2016, 04:53:18 AM Monero was about $0.50 last year and this year it climbed higher than $7 once. You never know what might happen to Aeon.
Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: N-rG on November 12, 2016, 02:55:04 PM Monero was about $0.50 last year and this year it climbed higher than $7 once. You never know what might happen to Aeon. And tbh i don't care for just copied coins. Its really just speculation and I don't invest money in things I cannot predict any future for. Monero has a big community and already acceptance. We can buy things with. It is known and growing fast. There is BTC and there is Monero. As long as there is no other great technologie coin, only these two coins are valid in my eyes to exist in non 100% speculative matters. Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: OrangeP on November 13, 2016, 02:22:05 AM There is BTC and there is Monero. As long as there is no other great technologie coin, only these two coins are valid in my eyes to exist in non 100% speculative matters. curious as I agree on that statement: What do you think of Ethereum? Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: N-rG on November 13, 2016, 09:08:02 AM There is BTC and there is Monero. As long as there is no other great technologie coin, only these two coins are valid in my eyes to exist in non 100% speculative matters. curious as I agree on that statement: What do you think of Ethereum? ETH as a technologie concept is valid. But not as a coin to be traded (ok i admit I traded -> still a very nice profitable short open :) ). I already explained in a thread some month ago why ETH will crash and is overpriced. Simply 1000 coins are enough to connect tillions of contracts. There is just no need for more coins in that ecosystem. Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: TechorMarketing on February 07, 2017, 11:14:01 PM DASH collapsing, AEON up!
Is the timing a coincidence? Or is it because the much hyped 12.1 update was a massive failure making DASH worse than before? Are former masternode owners jumping ship and moving to AEON? Are they finally realizing the value of true privacy, dynamic block-sizes and security over wasting money on failed ATM plans and paying "major" exchanges for listings? Did people notice that DASH (Evan) could not earn an invite to Satoshi roundtable this year after failing to impress in 2016? Meanwhile Monero had two developers in attendance. Usually a "flawless" transition does not entail ugly, damaging quick fixes which the devs themselves characterize as "controversial" and only necessary "until we have a better solution." Usually a "flawless" transition does not entail losing connectivity with standard modern internetworking protocols, resulting in ~$1.5 million dollars worth of nodes being rudely tossed out of the system with no say in the matter (and taking their diversity/diffusivity with them). Quote from: https://github.com/dashpay/dash/pull/1065 Masternodes should be allowed to annonce ipv4 addresses only from now https://i.imgur.com/Y3SnKtR.png (https://github.com/dashpay/dash/pull/1065#issuecomment-252488996) ^That's what normal people would call a flaw in the transition. I can't believe your response to the question of "Why didn't Masternodes hold a vote on banning IPv6?" is to throw out some red herring about Americans and illegals. Talk about hand waving! WTF are you really that stupid? Or are you just that committed to white knighting for Even The Instaminer, to the point where you will defend his unilateral actions and consistently false pretensions about governance theater no matter how blatantly centralized, retrograde, arbitrary, and authoritarian they become? Do you have any idea what a huge security issue it is for every Masternode to be tied to a static IPv4 address? Obviously you do not, otherwise you'd have chosen to describe 12.1 with a more appropriate term than "flawless." "Flawless" sounds like some Evan Can Do No Wrong cheerleading from a Kool-Aid drinking bagholder, not an honest critical appraisal respectful of all the facts. Of course given Dash's MO is "Marketing Over Technology" I'm not surprised you prefer to paint the situation in rosy terms rather than address the reasons why Bitcoin would never in a million years kick its IPv6 nodes out, much less have the chutzpah to describe such a Pyrrhic "quick win" as "flawless." Is it asking too much for Evan to stop breaking feature which Bitcoin devs worked hard to implement? If your name is Lukas_Jackson, the answer is "yes!" :D The irony is stunning. 12.1 is being hyped as "Evolution" despite it breaking existing functionality and moving Dash back into the Bronze Age of networking. IPv4 = tech from 1981 IPv6 = tech from 1999 What the diff? Glad you asked! While increasing the pool of addresses is one of the most often-talked about benefit of IPv6, there are other important technological changes in IPv6 that will improve the IP protocol: - No more NAT (Network Address Translation) - Auto-configuration - No more private address collisions - Better multicast routing - Simpler header format - Simplified, more efficient routing - True quality of service (QoS), also called "flow labeling" - Built-in authentication and privacy support - Flexible options and extensions - Easier administration (say good-bye to DHCP) Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: Fragbait on March 02, 2017, 12:12:31 AM The XMR vs DASH battle over, with the good guys (team cryptography) taking the win. Now for our next battle.... When will the market cap of Aeon (https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/832/does-aeon-have-a-development-roadmap) exceed Dashpay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0)? I heard probably Thursday next week. Title: Re: When will the market cap of Aeon exceed Dashpay? Post by: aleix on March 02, 2017, 12:31:56 AM The XMR vs DASH battle over, with the good guys (team cryptography) taking the win. Now for our next battle.... When will the market cap of Aeon (https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/832/does-aeon-have-a-development-roadmap) exceed Dashpay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0)? I heard probably Thursday next week. this bump is so cruel........ :D :D |
