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Title: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: vlom on August 28, 2016, 12:13:51 PM
what do you think?
are the monero pumpers the owners of the darknet markets that accept monero?

or even monero devs are dnm devs too?


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: qwizzie on August 28, 2016, 12:18:44 PM
what do you think?
are the monero pumpers the owners of the darknet markets that accept monero?

or even monero devs are dnm devs too?

i think they are a group that pump certain altcoins from time to time, this time it is Monero, next time it will be another cryptocurrency.
Which cryptocurrency they select next will depend most likely on the liquidity of that coin, as they need large volumes to dump into
in a later stage.
 
It wouldn't surprise me if they dump Monero at some point and pump Zcash once that is launched (september 2016) ..


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: generalizethis on August 28, 2016, 12:24:50 PM
what do you think?
are the monero pumpers the owners of the darknet markets that accept monero?

or even monero devs are dnm devs too?

i think they are a group that pump certain altcoins from time to time, this time it is Monero, next time it will be another cryptocurrency.
Which cryptocurrency they select next will depend most likely on the liquidity of that coin, as they need large volumes to dump into
in a later stage.
 
It wouldn't surprise me if they dump Monero at some point and pump Zcash once that is launched..


LOL, Qwizzy, you dumb fucking dashtard, you deserve what you get. Enjoy the ride down.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: qwizzie on August 28, 2016, 12:27:35 PM
such an easy topic to stay on topic on... oh well... i guess making things personal
is the more easy road for some people.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: vlom on August 28, 2016, 01:05:14 PM
i think that monero insiders paid a lot of xmr to the admins of AlphaBay and Oasis Markets. Without that they would not implement monero. And now both sides a making money by selling their coins to the public.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: generalizethis on August 28, 2016, 01:09:22 PM
i think that monero insiders paid a lot of xmr to the admins of AlphaBay and Oasis Markets. Without that they would not implement monero. And now both sides a making money by selling their coins to the public.

I think dashers paid you to make stupid threads without any factual basis so they can save their shitty coin.

Where's my proof?

That's not really part of your thread model now is it?


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: vlom on August 28, 2016, 01:18:31 PM
i think that monero insiders paid a lot of xmr to the admins of AlphaBay and Oasis Markets. Without that they would not implement monero. And now both sides a making money by selling their coins to the public.

I think dashers paid you to make stupid threads without any factual basis so they can save their shitty coin.

Where's my proof?

That's not really part of your thread model now is it?

i just ask a question. i don't have monero. and i don't have any dash. but the next time i will make a self-mod topic when is use the words monero or dash.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: BillyBobZorton on August 28, 2016, 01:32:24 PM
Monero has a real reason to exist: People that want to buy ilegal drugs on dark markets are going to use whatever is the most anonymous technology, and Bitcoin is not enough just yet, in the future maybe.

So I think there is a reason for the pump beyond speculation, but of course the question is... good idea to buy now, or it will correct? nobody can know.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: BigSirko on August 28, 2016, 01:33:43 PM
AFAIK those markets said they'ld only enable Monero on September 4th or something.  That means all the volume right now is just pure speculation on Poloniex.  What happens when Monero is enabled and not many people are interested in accepting it?  You can see where this pump is going to create some comedy gold.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: generalizethis on August 28, 2016, 01:54:23 PM
AFAIK those markets said they'ld only enable Monero on September 4th or something.  That means all the volume right now is just pure speculation on Poloniex.  What happens when Monero is enabled and not many people are interested in accepting it?  You can see where this pump is going to create some comedy gold.


Oasis already added it and Alphabay is adding it September 1st.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/darknet-customers-are-demanding-bitcoin-alternative-monero-1472243603


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: amacar2 on August 28, 2016, 03:02:31 PM
AFAIK those markets said they'ld only enable Monero on September 4th or something.  That means all the volume right now is just pure speculation on Poloniex.  What happens when Monero is enabled and not many people are interested in accepting it?  You can see where this pump is going to create some comedy gold.

Yes actually this pump is from the spectulation alone and when actually news/implementation happen than price may correct to some point. But i don't think price will go to previous level anytime soon.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: Kolder on August 28, 2016, 03:23:30 PM
AFAIK those markets said they'ld only enable Monero on September 4th or something.  That means all the volume right now is just pure speculation on Poloniex.  What happens when Monero is enabled and not many people are interested in accepting it?  You can see where this pump is going to create some comedy gold.

Yes actually this pump is from the spectulation alone and when actually news/implementation happen than price may correct to some point. But i don't think price will go to previous level anytime soon.

Nah. It can be back to their previous price once the owner decide to dump it. They are just trapping big whales to caught by their bait pump. But price speculation helps a lot in pumping a coin. I can't say any word to that strategy. It is brilliant. :D


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: zana on August 28, 2016, 03:33:58 PM
How much did BTC rise when started being used at Silkroad?

Is it possible people are thinking the same?


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: Facilitator on August 28, 2016, 03:38:45 PM
i think that monero insiders paid a lot of xmr to the admins of AlphaBay and Oasis Markets. Without that they would not implement monero. And now both sides a making money by selling their coins to the public.

If you have concrete evidence and report to the law enforcements in the world, then the criminals will be caught.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: manselr on August 28, 2016, 03:41:59 PM
How much did BTC rise when started being used at Silkroad?

Is it possible people are thinking the same?

It was an insane pump, like 100 dollars to 1200 dollars or something. You can check it for yourself here:

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitstamp/btcusd


This is why I think XMR can pump really hard, LTC pumped hard too, they have similar supply.

Of course, you may end up buying at the top and it starts crashing... its a big gamble.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: Suggestive Melon on August 28, 2016, 03:47:27 PM
Question. Does anyone know how much money money goes through online dark net markets currently? Because the answer to that will give you an idea as to what kind of money will go into Monero in the near future.  I've had trouble finding any estimate as to how much money currently goes through them, but I can tell you that the Silk Road was raking in roughly 100mil a year as of 2013.  This should give at least some kind of idea as to how much could potentially end up going into Monero, that is assuming it does become the de facto darknet currency.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: European Central Bank on August 28, 2016, 03:55:48 PM

It was an insane pump, like 100 dollars to 1200 dollars or something. You can check it for yourself here:


bitcoin's pump of all pumps happened after silk road was shut down. there's no way to know the effect it had on the price while it was still operating but i'm sure it was positive. 


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: generalizethis on August 28, 2016, 04:31:53 PM
Question. Does anyone know how much money money goes through online dark net markets currently? Because the answer to that will give you an idea as to what kind of money will go into Monero in the near future.  I've had trouble finding any estimate as to how much money currently goes through them, but I can tell you that the Silk Road was raking in roughly 100mil a year as of 2013.  This should give at least some kind of idea as to how much could potentially end up going into Monero, that is assuming it does become the de facto darknet currency.

http://www.rand.org/randeurope/research/projects/online-drugs-trade-trafficking.html

Summary: "Illegal drug transactions on cryptomarkets have tripled since 2013, with revenues doubling. But at $12-21 (€10.5-18.5) million a month, this is clearly a niche market compared to the traditional offline market, estimated at $2.3 (€2) billion a month in Europe alone."


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: LiskQH on August 28, 2016, 04:51:16 PM
I have information that Poloniex is involved in this pump MONERO, at them many coins have accumulated. They sell.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: Febo on August 28, 2016, 04:58:16 PM
what do you think?
are the monero pumpers the owners of the darknet markets that accept monero?

or even monero devs are dnm devs too?

You can see all Monero developers on github. If you can link them with running a darmparket website then there is your story.  But if you would hae nice job and be owner of a dark market website i doubt your hobby would be to develop crypto coins.

lol



People that push Monero price up are regular crypto lovers. That try not be left empty handed when XMR finayl reach normal price.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: Denker on August 28, 2016, 05:18:29 PM
How much did BTC rise when started being used at Silkroad?

Is it possible people are thinking the same?

It was an insane pump, like 100 dollars to 1200 dollars or something. You can check it for yourself here:


No no no!!!
Silkroad went online january 2011 and added Bitcoin at the same time.
Sure it had an positive effect on BTC's value over time but the huge pump happened in november 2013!
And Silkroad gut shot down in october of the same year, so before the mega pump happend.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: Usuadog on August 28, 2016, 05:48:57 PM
People that push Monero price up are regular crypto lovers. That try not be left empty handed when XMR finayl reach normal price.

That is right. These guys move between coins. They were in Ethereum, Dahs, Ripple and now they are in Monero.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: vlom on August 28, 2016, 05:50:32 PM
People that push Monero price up are regular crypto lovers. That try not be left empty handed when XMR finayl reach normal price.

That is right. These guys move between coins. They were in Ethereum, Dahs, Ripple and now they are in Monero.

and at the moment there are a lot of coins losing value. this will change soon i hope.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: vlom on August 28, 2016, 05:54:24 PM
what do you think?
are the monero pumpers the owners of the darknet markets that accept monero?

or even monero devs are dnm devs too?

You can see all Monero developers on github. If you can link them with running a darmparket website then there is your story.  But if you would hae nice job and be owner of a dark market website i doubt your hobby would be to develop crypto coins.

lol



People that push Monero price up are regular crypto lovers. That try not be left empty handed when XMR finayl reach normal price.

yes, this could bei true. but do you have an answer to this question?

why monero? why not an other cryptonight coin?

if i were the dev of a coin. i would do a lot to be on dnm. thats why i think that it could be possible that monero devs talk to the dnm-admins.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: generalizethis on August 28, 2016, 05:58:12 PM
what do you think?
are the monero pumpers the owners of the darknet markets that accept monero?

or even monero devs are dnm devs too?

You can see all Monero developers on github. If you can link them with running a darmparket website then there is your story.  But if you would hae nice job and be owner of a dark market website i doubt your hobby would be to develop crypto coins.

lol



People that push Monero price up are regular crypto lovers. That try not be left empty handed when XMR finayl reach normal price.

yes, this could bei true. but do you have an answer to this question?

why monero? why not an other cryptonight coin?

if i were the dev of a coin. i would do a lot to be on dnm. thats why i think that i could be possible that moonier devs talk to the dnm-admins.

Other cryptonite coins don't have the same user base, and by lack of that virtue, they don't have the same GitHub or market activity--my guess is only following the coin for a few hours or days has led you to make a lot of faulty assumptions based on limited information.



Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: vlom on August 28, 2016, 06:03:03 PM
what do you think?
are the monero pumpers the owners of the darknet markets that accept monero?

or even monero devs are dnm devs too?

You can see all Monero developers on github. If you can link them with running a darmparket website then there is your story.  But if you would hae nice job and be owner of a dark market website i doubt your hobby would be to develop crypto coins.

lol



People that push Monero price up are regular crypto lovers. That try not be left empty handed when XMR finayl reach normal price.

yes, this could bei true. but do you have an answer to this question?

why monero? why not an other cryptonight coin?

if i were the dev of a coin. i would do a lot to be on dnm. thats why i think that i could be possible that moonier devs talk to the dnm-admins.

Other cryptonite coins don't have the same user base, and by lack of that virtue, they don't have the same GitHub or market activity--my guess is only following the coin for a few hours or days has led you to make a lot of faulty assumptions based on limited information.



that is true. i was never following the development of monero. just because of the never ending monero vs. dash battle. and the insta-ninja-or-what-ever mining topics.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: bbc.reporter on August 29, 2016, 02:12:07 AM
what do you think?
are the monero pumpers the owners of the darknet markets that accept monero?

or even monero devs are dnm devs too?

I am not saying they are involved but think about it. This market is not regulated, no one will go to prison, there is money to be made and there are insiders who know about the news before it is released. I would be naive to think nobody was buying XMR before the big news. That is the way of the trading market regulated and unregulated, there is nothing wrong with making money. It will only be wrong for someone if he is left holding at high prices and it suddenly went down. But that is the game we have to accept it.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: Piston Honda on August 29, 2016, 02:50:01 AM
you'd be stupid to buy now.
already missed the train.
what a joke it's become...polo is getting away with fucking murder they're lucky to still be in business, insider pumps now too huh?  fucking pigs.
look at those bots go lol...congrats to anyone who made $, but still it's sad how this thing will pump for NO reason at all, and don't give me darkmarkets bullshit...it's just fuel for the whales hype train that sheep now buy into.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: Usuadog on September 12, 2016, 05:37:57 PM
you'd be stupid to buy now.
already missed the train.
what a joke it's become...polo is getting away with fucking murder they're lucky to still be in business, insider pumps now too huh?  fucking pigs.
look at those bots go lol...congrats to anyone who made $, but still it's sad how this thing will pump for NO reason at all, and don't give me darkmarkets bullshit...it's just fuel for the whales hype train that sheep now buy into.

I think it might better to wait for the price to drop a bit or when there is good usage of the Monero by general public.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: Cryptotraider16 on September 12, 2016, 07:30:12 PM
when FBI and DEA sized darket then all monero coins will be over night drop to 1$ or les,its will happen real soon!


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: Spoetnik on September 12, 2016, 11:05:30 PM
Monero has a real reason to exist: People that want to buy ilegal drugs on dark markets are going to use whatever is the most anonymous technology, and Bitcoin is not enough just yet, in the future maybe.

So I think there is a reason for the pump beyond speculation, but of course the question is... good idea to buy now, or it will correct? nobody can know.

Bull-fucking-shit

Ransomware.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: Facilitator on September 13, 2016, 04:24:23 PM
when FBI and DEA sized darket then all monero coins will be over night drop to 1$ or les,its will happen real soon!

That could happen. But similar seizsure happened to the silk road and the price of the bitcoin did not drop.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on September 13, 2016, 07:36:24 PM
when FBI and DEA sized darket then all monero coins will be over night drop to 1$ or les,its will happen real soon!
Monero right now has a real base and followers, since monero is the real secure and untraceable currency,it can be used freely without the prying eyes of law enforcement. The owner of KAT would be still running the website if he was using monero more over if he have used his brain he would have being safe. Either way monero is the future and it is nice to see some good currencies having a value,bitcoin value didnt drop when Ross William Ulbricht was caught so this will be the case here too.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: Spoetnik on September 14, 2016, 11:17:13 PM
what do you think?
are the monero pumpers the owners of the darknet markets that accept monero?

or even monero devs are dnm devs too?

I am not saying they are involved but think about it. This market is not regulated, no one will go to prison, there is money to be made and there are insiders who know about the news before it is released. I would be naive to think nobody was buying XMR before the big news. That is the way of the trading market regulated and unregulated, there is nothing wrong with making money. It will only be wrong for someone if he is left holding at high prices and it suddenly went down. But that is the game we have to accept it.

i agree and find it suspicious theymos said the best ALT was XMR
Would be easy for him to get a hold of darknet players etc..


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: bbc.reporter on September 15, 2016, 01:42:08 AM
when FBI and DEA sized darket then all monero coins will be over night drop to 1$ or les,its will happen real soon!
Monero right now has a real base and followers, since monero is the real secure and untraceable currency,it can be used freely without the prying eyes of law enforcement. The owner of KAT would be still running the website if he was using monero more over if he have used his brain he would have being safe. Either way monero is the future and it is nice to see some good currencies having a value,bitcoin value didnt drop when Ross William Ulbricht was caught so this will be the case here too.

I believe XMR will be put to the real test when the FBI, DEA and the NSA step in to catch darknet mechants using the coin. Let us not be in denial that we are talking about the power of the whole US government versus a group of core developers of Monero. There is already talk that Monero's weakness will be seeen in the view key feature. Let us see.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: dinofelis on September 15, 2016, 05:01:11 AM
I believe XMR will be put to the real test when the FBI, DEA and the NSA step in to catch darknet mechants using the coin. Let us not be in denial that we are talking about the power of the whole US government versus a group of core developers of Monero. There is already talk that Monero's weakness will be seeen in the view key feature. Let us see.

As far as I understood, bitcoin was not part of seizing Silk Road.  An attack on TOR was.

As usual, the crypto itself is not the issue, OPSEC is.




Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: elrippo on October 05, 2016, 06:33:50 PM
I have information that Poloniex is involved in this pump MONERO, at them many coins have accumulated. They sell.

Proof please  ;D


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: CoinBreader on October 08, 2016, 07:04:58 AM
what do you think?
are the monero pumpers the owners of the darknet markets that accept monero?

or even monero devs are dnm devs too?

In case that monero pumpers are dnm owners , you can use your logic, we had a insider info , right ? and the reward would be x2 overnight more or less , what you will do ??
You cant really know who is behind a pump , but this one is 99% sure, they decide to add XMR on DM ...


I have information that Poloniex is involved in this pump MONERO, at them many coins have accumulated. They sell.

Proof please  ;D


The best proof is that Polo have started to taking profits from the currency you buy or sell , no sum up of btc , so if a coin pumped Polo will sell on maxed price , fucking lame !


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: Turbo2 on October 08, 2016, 10:08:08 AM
Bitcoin is not anonymous.

Monero is anonymous.

Long live Monero!


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: AstralWonder on October 08, 2016, 10:38:09 AM
i think that monero insiders paid a lot of xmr to the admins of AlphaBay and Oasis Markets. Without that they would not implement monero. And now both sides a making money by selling their coins to the public.
Probably, why else would they wait so long to integrate right?


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: Usuadog on October 23, 2016, 04:33:12 PM
Bitcoin is not anonymous.

Monero is anonymous.

Long live Monero!

The ZCash is also anonyous. So there could be long live ZCash. But we shall find out in the next few months.


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: Cryptotraider16 on October 23, 2016, 06:19:37 PM
pumpers are always guys who hold big ammount coins...;) so i am sure darnet and monero guys...but monero is dead


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: Daffadile on October 26, 2016, 05:24:18 PM
what do you think?
are the monero pumpers the owners of the darknet markets that accept monero?

or even monero devs are dnm devs too?

I'm npot sure but monero graphs are so clean and cut. I'm very sure the devs and a few others are controlling that to a point of coarse. But this may be the secret to why it is such a strong coin. Love monero <3 xxx  :-*


Title: Re: Monero pumpers = dnm owner?
Post by: numismatist on October 27, 2016, 03:46:34 PM
I believe XMR will be put to the real test when the FBI, DEA and the NSA step in to catch darknet mechants using the coin. Let us not be in denial that we are talking about the power of the whole US government versus a group of core developers of Monero. There is already talk that Monero's weakness will be seeen in the view key feature. Let us see.

There even might be intersections between those two groups.