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Lately there hasbeen a lot of posts about the price going down.

Dont post 'fud' without a good reason for the fear. really there is a lot of investors and people with real money out there. they will not be pleased if you start posting 'fud' or bad information.

Thank you

Lately and always. I agree when you say that "FUD" should at least be based on something. However it's up to people who "invest" to be able to read through the information and sort it out.

Look at the bright side: You can buy cheaper Bitcoin, and you can play with alts, since usually some alts pump go up when BTC goes down. ETC is looking good.

Welcome to investing people have every right to speak their mind on this website.  With the recent Monero news alot of people are starting to become skeptical with BTC price.  If some of the largest websites on the Darknet are starting to use Monero as a form of payment (better safety feautres, truely anonymous, and quicker transcation times) so be it .  This is CryptoCurrency's where things can change at any moment.  Adapt to the situation and have back up plans if anything is to go wrong

It's kind of always going on so I wouldn't worry too much about it. I see that duck guy make a new thread every other day about how the price is going to crash hahaha. If you post a reason as to why then people will take it a lot more seriously although there are a lot of perma-bulls around here  :o

I agree with you. I have seen quite a lot of posts with 'Fud'. Members who have a high status like Legendary or Hero member can have a good influence in investors ideas with Bitcoin.

Personally, I don't believe that the price is going to fall. It is already quite low. I think that it is the perfect time to invest in BTC.

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There has always been some fud and so being spread around the forum, even back in 2013 I remember seeing a ton of it being spread and all the people that would spew it were constantly attacking bitcoin for one reason or another, without really giving many explanations as to why. You're just going to have to understand how to ignore and identify those who simply just don't like bitcoin's existence, and then deal with it that way. There is no definitive cure for it, and the best thing to do is to just ignore everything happening with it.

I bet people that invested huge money have a good resourses to get such information and they wont care about those "fud". But yes, posting bad information to fear others is not appreciated and I hope they will stop it!

Hi, welcome to the forum (assuming this isn't an alt account OP has).  This is all about free discussion with little censorship.  If you see FUD, refute it, but it's not something to ban or censure.  People are always going to be spewing BS and we all just have to kinda deal with it.

As far as price going down--it hasn't, all that much.  This is nothing compared to the drop from the peak we just had >$700.

this "fud" will be make panic people and i hope this will not effect in many things. in investment, many people gets information from many places, not for just in here, but maybe they got from out there. so i hope people on here not get attrack of many wrong information and they can learn that fud not always good to know.

Anyone who automatically adds more weight to someone's opinion just because they're a hero or legendary is an idiot. Go on who it is. Would you listen to Satoshi? I'd hope so. Would you listen to me? You should not. The only thing I have over a junior member is that I've been posting shite for longer than them.

The investor and people are having a brain and I think they will not just believing with information before reading it and especially a lot of people is making fud in here just for reaching their full post but for the price is going down it's normal. and you can see always appearing a new project and that is showing a lot of investors is still excited with bitcoin.

i agree with you, but... dude, it's like say to a troll to stop being a troll. it wont happen.
those topics come from two types of people:
1. "real investors"(aka holders) trying to bring the price down to buy more.
2. retards who believe in everything they see in internet.

Absolutely.

Obviously, there are going to be people who get into the crypto world who act irresponsibly and go along with the crowd who posts FUD and a whole bunch of nonsense; but should that be on the shoulders of people who post that stuff here? Absolutely not, or it shouldn't be.

People who are starting to come here that brings some "real money" to the table, are probably not these type of investors I described above... they are probably going to do their research and plan accordingly.

there always are people who tell that bitcoin is "crashing" and there always will be i dont think we can avoid it unfortunately

It's quite low based on what? Based on the fact that it reached the range of 700-800USD and then it went back to 600USD range? If you'll judge the bitcoin price based on how much it has been, then you can say that this price 580-600USD is almost half of what it was. It reached 1000USD back then.

Well, we can promote which ideas we think. If the higher ranks want to say that it's going down, then they can say that. It's their account. It's only up to you if you'll believe everything that people on the Internet say.

There have been so many accounts bought and sold on this forum that the rankings mean nothing any more except for a select few. They are worth listening to, but not the others.

i think those promoting fud and stuff are scammer, they want to buy cheap on your dump, i never listen to them and thread should be closed by mod, price is recovering now, so i see no reason to dump

I think now is a good time to get into bitcoin if you didn't get in before. The bitcoin market price will recover after some time.

Yeah right and its just a normal its always happening year by year bitcoin has no stable price traders are making profit because of pump and dump.. so its normal no reason to blame anything why price of bitcoin is decreasing,

no matter how many fud is being spread in this forum, smart traders don't care at all. it doesn't have an impact on them because they know better. only rookies may get influenced by fud as they are already shaking on their legs without anything happening.

Can someone explain what FUD stands for?  

I know it has something to do with people saying Bitcoin will fall in price.  
"The sky is falling" posts are all probably from people with an agenda. 
Trying to spread panic so people sell and they can pick up some cheap coins.

Fear Uncertainty Doubt or probably more often Facts U Dislike. One man's fud is another's straightforward truth.

If I would buy more coins before a price increase, I would say to everybody that it's time to sell.

Yeah, no shit to that. The only thing I'm legendary at is losing out on shitcoin pumps and trading bitcoin poorly. However, I'm still kicking around here which means I haven't lost my ass - a lot more than I can say for most.

How if our funds still in form of bitcoin,i guess this fud is ain't funny for us,spreading fear through unreasonable opinion is such a bad thing,a price falling will always bad for bitcoin but not for traders

Sticking around for long enough counts for a little something. At least the oldies have seen more. However that also means there's a considerably higher possibility of them being insane, bitter and filled with bizarro grudges too. I'm not sure too much crypto is very good for one's mental health or faith in humanity.

For me the last 2.5 years it's beaten the hell out of tv, and how many hobbies make money? I'm up about $20k, in usd and btc, but it's heartbreaking when I think of how much I could be up if I hadn't dumped so many coins before their pumps. The same fear of loss that has kept me in the black has also kept me from riches.

Fudsters have always been a part of the scene - at least ever since I began in bitcoin. They will always be spreading their fud whatever the price. The people who seem to be influenced the most by the fudsters are the weak hands and who needs them anyways. I'm sure the traders love when weak hands sell due to the fud. For the rest of us like myself, fudsters are pretty much a nonfactor. If anything, I find fudsters quite amusing actually.

it is in fact part of their business. I've seen post in the past about a user hiring some trolls and its purpose is to spread FUD.  It has been proven to be a good way to spread fears and make these users earn more as well.  They do have some strategy so its better to just investigate on your own whether to believe what they are saying or not.

this has been the story of this board for as long as this board has existed. and there is nothing anybody can do about FUD, although most of the brand new accounts posting FUD crap will get nuked by a mod but there are still legendary members like kokduck ;) who spread their FUD.
we have to learn not to listen to them and never feed them by commenting.

There has always been FUD being spammed through this forum, even back when I was just starting out I would see a ton of FUD being spammed by either trolls or shills and none of this has really changed all that much. There are people who will just do this and muck around with it for one reason or another, and you just have to be able to figure out who they are and be able to ignore them.

jianluca0808 are you long? I feel your pain.

Sell now before is to late.

I think bitcoin ecosystem is well stable than in past with $9 billion+ marketcap now. So i don't think FUDS can actually dump the price, but if the recent event like bitfinex hack and similar keep on happening than it may become really bad for price stability.

I couldn't care about the "whales" and how they feel about the fudsters. They need us more than we need them. They are the ones amplifying the fear, uncertainty and doubts, so they can buy on the dip and sell on the high. Me, I make money either way, just like the boss.

hacks like that with such a big size happen rarely. so it is nothing to worry about.
besides if you check out the effect of the hack and the dump you can see that the effect was somewhat big but only lasted for a very short time and bitcoin price went back up fast. and now we are only around 4-5% below the pre-hack price of $600

This has always been happening. Even when the price was high, people said it would reach $200 and now it's still not profitable for many to sell their coins. By now, investors must have already been informed about which sources to trust and which are fake. There were reports that suggested the price to reach $400 but fortunately it did not happen. I had already stopped buying coins when the price reached $630.

Its funny how often someone makes a new account just to post "OMG Bitcoin going to be worthless the sky is falling sell now B4Its2Late!" 

I actually wonder what is the motivation for someone doing this. 
I don't know if they do it just because they are trying to troll people, or if its someone with enough money to actually make a profit if a panic dump happens.

i guess they're just trolling,the FUD won't give affect so much except there's strong reason behind the FUD ,for example when bitfinex get hacked
it's really hard to affect people without strong reason,and don't think the one who done the FUD having that much money lol

Some say it's going to rise, some say it's going to fall. It all depends on what he other wants you to know or do.
Some succeed to fool you into that, some fail - meaning you do the opposite - and most are ignored.

And basically all are right and all are wrong, because the market goes up and down and up again and down again.
The ones skilled will trade and get big gains. The ones less skilled will trade and lose. And most of us just keep the few satoshi or Bitcoin we have for much better days, whether the speculators tell to sell or buy.

I see no speculation of Bitcoin price in this thread.

I'm trying to stack some BTC up, so even if the price falls for me there's no reason to fear. My only BTC income at the moment is Signature campaigns.... So no risks involved!

That's a good way for you to stop people, but when it comes to opinion, everyone has its own.
So, you really can't stop this FUD when they are interested in getting bitcoins for cheap and will do anything to take the price down.

opinion is different from FUD and they both are a lot different from speculation which is the name of this board. and it is really easy to distinguish them from each other.
- FUD is false information or exaggerating something in order to spread or increase the fear and uncertainty.
- opinion: everybody has it but making a topic and just saying it is considered spamming and you can even call it FUD if it is negative and hype if it is not. and both are worthless.
- speculation is something that at the very least has some form of reason or analysis of the charts of market situation in it not a plain opinion!

1200usd was reached because of mt.gox where bot was buying at insanely high prices with no fiat.

it can happen again, but this time we can go as a high as 2k if a new bot wave begin to spam order like with mtgox, i also believe that it was not only due tot eh bot back then, there were many newbie  because of doge

Thousands of people paid real money on legit (ish) exchanges at that price too. And China was the engine behind that rise ultimately.

These games of hype and FUD belong to these markets.
Both sides, bulls and bears, have their interests and  will use every method they can to achieve their goals.
And we as the small guys without big pockets and therefore no chance in influencing the markets can just try to be patient, watch it from the sidelines or try to take advantage of the situation if we can depending on what side of the market you are positioned.

Sometimes I think they are just trolling for kicks, but at other times I wonder if a whale stands to make a fortune if he can manipulate the price down, or up. If a trader had bet millions of dollars with heavy leverage he would be highly motivated to FUD the price in the direction that makes him rich.

I read somewhere that the reason there is a fall in bitcoin price is because of the British exit and the economic lull they are experiencing.

Lately? You mean since bitcoin was created? Because seriously there always been and always will be posts containing misinformation, trolling, fake info - you name it.
I have no idea how long you are monitoring bitcoin news or price. But you will see that even experts (Hello Mike!) said many times that bitcoin time is over and it is failed tech.

You can't expect that there won't be any trolling or plain misconceptions or speculations, on internet BBS.

Get used to it. This is why many people familiar with the forum simply don't go into Economy. It's filled with shitpost like DOWN DOWN or SELL SELL SELL.

It's not fud.
There's just no reason for the bitcoin value to go up.
It's fundamentally flawed on so many levels. The flaws are being ignored by the devs and community at large.
It's extremely overpriced right now.

There is a reason. Without Bitfinex, we would have probably had a price of ~$700-$750. If we could find a way to get more people join Bitcoin in, we would see a good increase of price. Same thing goes with stacking Bitcoins up: price goes up. No more selling and no more quitting, and we may see a good increase.

Bitcoin has no real usage value. There are just bunch of people who bought it and now they are waiting for price to go up.

You can compare them with stamp collectors. There are only limited numbers of stamps and three holders. Now they are persuading neighbours to buy buy those stamps because they are limited and therefore price should go up. Neighbours don't see any real usage value buying those stamps. So price stays withing range some time and finally it goes down.

Are you stupid or what.  ;D

Kid (not teenager) in bitcoinland knows everything :)

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For all you know Kobilica has been around for 5 years and this is one of his puppet accounts. Anyway, I think you are a bit off comparing btc to some limited stamp - maybe you should find another interest if you feel that way.

If Bitcoin's price could be talked down, the number of sock puppets here would have done it long ago.  ::)
Don't worry, people are intelligent enough to differentiate the FUD around here from actual analysis.

As many have stated before it is not really influencing whether people buy or sell.

We all know that people who say the Bitcoin price will rise/fall are usually spammers or account farmers. Otherwise they'd use prediction threads.
Luckily, all this spam is quarinteened into just the speculation section.

There are a lot of dedicated bull/ bear accounts around.
They don't wear a signature (to avoid getting banned for spam), but do what it takes to try and spread FUD

They are mainly signature campaigners or account farmers though. You are also correct that there are others that do it for different purposes. If you don't sell hen a person says to, there's always a risk involved and these could trigger people to buy and sell accounts.
I'm not sure what the mods think of this as these posts are not actively destroyed.

Sorry to burst your bubble but mods are actively removing posts criticizing bitcoin. About half of my posts vanish. Some is allowed to give the appearance of an open uncensored community which it clearly isn't.
Good ideas don't need censorship, they can withstand scrutiny.

Yet somehow pointing out the many flaws of bitcoin will either result in the removal of the post or nonsense replies that don't even address the issue.

Whether it's a reality that true friends ..?? . Because I am sure that the moderators do it, because maybe you spread hate against bitcoin or you do something which is not true. Indeed bitcoin has drawbacks, but whether we should continue to see shortages of bitcoin compared to see the advantages that we can get it..?? . you don't have to worry about friends, if you don't like the bitcoin. Then you can switch on the currency more

Exactly. This is a Bitcoin forum. If you want to report bugs then go to the appropriate places. Most people reply with nonsense anyway, you can usually get a few good replies. They need to just nuke that area of the forum now to remove all the unnecessary posts.

yeah say without evidence or any news, I think they will just make people panic to sell their bitcoin and taking advantage of the panic is by capturing low price.
we should always give a positive effect so that people trust and buy bitcoin to make the price rise.

As an end user of crypto to actually buy things with, give me true anonymity and above all else, faster transaction times any day of the week. But still, XMR is way too volatile yet to be considered as a serious replacement for Bitcoin. Up by around 400% in the past week, and then taking a 40% haircut!?

Not fkn tenable, but in the fullness of time, I could easily see Bitcoin being displaced.

Bitcoin could and should easily be displaced, because it is fucking shit, at what it is meant to do.

It is old news and I think that this is one step that makes everyone into a panic and after the plan successfully. They brought out the issue again so that all users of the bitcoin no longer trust the bitcoin, after that they opened a digital currency to another and they said that the digital currencies are very special and better than the bitcoin or other

Well, somehow you have a point but  its not  the general thing why people keep on saying  the price is going down  in able to panic selling.  Its  not a new thing  for us and we even heard and read this anouncements and speculation over and over again but still  bitcoin price is keep rising compare to the previous years although it may drop sometimes  which is normal thing.