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Title: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Johnny00 on August 29, 2016, 10:37:55 PM
Hi, the opposite of my other thread. Coins that you dont need to have your wallet open 24/7.

like the below which i like

Zeitcoin, Mintcoin, NEM


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Munti on August 29, 2016, 10:40:25 PM

BitBay  :)


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Abiky on August 29, 2016, 11:30:34 PM
There is Tekcoin which gives you the ability to stake your coins every 30 days without leaving your wallet open 24//7. And, NEM's offline harvesting makes it a pretty good feature to get staking offline meaning that there is no need to leaving your NEM client open 24/7. So my list of favorite coins of these type would be the ones that the OP mentioned earlier + Tekcoin as well.  :)


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: iGotSpots on August 30, 2016, 12:36:41 AM
CUBE

You can open, stake, close once a day if you want

http://freestaking.com


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: BitcoinNational on August 30, 2016, 02:40:53 PM
OP have you ever staked a block on NEM?

Can you provide details ... age of coins and amount ... say you let the wallet stake for 8 hrs sure to stake numbers.


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I like POT, for the back burner POS, seems to sync fast enough and stakes quick on 2-3 week intervals.

In general I find the longer hold stakes cumbersome to sync, if you're weeks behind it might be 24hrs to sync up.
(personal opinion) : i prefer chains that you can stake every 24-96hrs, not sure what the term is, but if you build up a random collection of coin lots, you tend to hit a minting block, but every chain is a different can of soup.  so you could apply that concept to the long stake coins and every 24-96hrs too.  


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: rikkejohn on August 31, 2016, 02:55:20 AM
Get one of those 10 dollars a year servers if there is a particular coin you want to stake. Compile the Linux daemon, send your coins there. There are a couple of security steps to employ, which are very simple, but then you are good to go with 24 hours a day staking.

NB: Back up the wallet to your HDD (or wherever) in case cheapo server goes bust.


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Johnny00 on August 31, 2016, 04:51:01 PM
Get one of those 10 dollars a year servers if there is a particular coin you want to stake. Compile the Linux daemon, send your coins there. There are a couple of security steps to employ, which are very simple, but then you are good to go with 24 hours a day staking.

NB: Back up the wallet to your HDD (or wherever) in case cheapo server goes bust.

 i haven't heard about $10 a year server. Is thiis through VPS?


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: cryptohunter on August 31, 2016, 07:33:02 PM

BitBay  :)


This one I like.


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Johnny00 on September 01, 2016, 12:26:10 AM
What's so good about bit bay?


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: SANALIU on September 01, 2016, 03:54:06 AM
Get one of those 10 dollars a year servers if there is a particular coin you want to stake. Compile the Linux daemon, send your coins there. There are a couple of security steps to employ, which are very simple, but then you are good to go with 24 hours a day staking.

NB: Back up the wallet to your HDD (or wherever) in case cheapo server goes bust.

 i haven't heard about $10 a year server. Is thiis through VPS?

where is server in VPS is very cheap price
only 10 dollar every one year,
i think price vps is cheaper every month 5dollar is good cheap price


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Johnny00 on September 01, 2016, 04:40:34 AM
Do you have a reputable company?


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Munti on September 01, 2016, 08:18:30 AM
What's so good about bit bay?

-One of the most advanced coins out there. Lots of unique features
-First with decentralized markets (only one with decentralized market if you are a purist)
-Active dev that keeps adding new features and improving old ones
-Rock solid. It has been tested and retested the last 18 months
-Exiting things on roadmap like the upcoming cold staking and the unique pegging
-From a traders perspective: Totally undervalued. Could go up a lot when it starts moving


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: JasonXG on September 01, 2016, 10:11:17 PM
You can always use poswallet if it supports your coin.
Coins I know that dont need to be open are crx, pokecoin, px, swaptoken, etc, hodl, cost and I think truck coin. You still need to open it just not all the time. I can't think of anymore.


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Sweetbtc on September 03, 2016, 05:13:41 AM
Hi, the opposite of my other thread. Coins that you dont need to have your wallet open 24/7.

like the below which i like

Zeitcoin, Mintcoin, NEM

I believe that technically you could simply run the coin console software or daemon, whichever the case may be in the background.  If it is the resource issue, that might help. The GUI will likely take as much power to run as the software itself.


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: noormcs5 on September 03, 2016, 05:17:19 AM
Hi, the opposite of my other thread. Coins that you dont need to have your wallet open 24/7.

like the below which i like

Zeitcoin, Mintcoin, NEM

I believe that technically you could simply run the coin console software or daemon, whichever the case may be in the background.  If it is the resource issue, that might help. The GUI will likely take as much power to run as the software itself.

If just seeing the GUI bothers you, even Windows 10 has multiple desktop tech where you can run the wallet and switch to another desktop and never see it.


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Abiky on September 03, 2016, 10:56:43 PM
What's so good about bit bay?

-One of the most advanced coins out there. Lots of unique features
-First with decentralized markets (only one with decentralized market if you are a purist)
-Active dev that keeps adding new features and improving old ones
-Rock solid. It has been tested and retested the last 18 months
-Exiting things on roadmap like the upcoming cold staking and the unique pegging
-From a traders perspective: Totally undervalued. Could go up a lot when it starts moving

Definitely looks like a good coin to stake. It has so many features that make it very attractive such as the decentralized market and smart contracts. Yet, I wonder why it is very inexpensive. Still, it is a good entry point to get a huge amount of cheap coins and receive better stakes. Just my opinion.  :)


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: adamvp on September 03, 2016, 11:00:41 PM
Noone mention here HODLcoin?! It is not quite PoS exactly but you earn interest by holding coins


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: coin2.0 on September 03, 2016, 11:07:06 PM
guys,do u konw how to solve the  forked pos coin?


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: gp305 on September 04, 2016, 01:03:03 AM
Evergreen EGC wallet does not need to be open 24/7. Currently pays 7%


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Hermanny on September 04, 2016, 01:55:49 PM
Most of the POS 1.0 coins (PeerCoin clones) are like that.


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: adamvp on September 04, 2016, 03:42:54 PM
Evergreen EGC wallet does not need to be open 24/7. Currently pays 7%

7% yearly??
HodlCoin pays like below:
Quote
Current Bonus Rate:   
541.66416%
Standard Rate:   
5.00311%
Total APR:   
546.66727%
Daily Rate:   
0.22750%


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Abiky on September 05, 2016, 11:29:13 PM

7% yearly??
HodlCoin pays like below:
Quote
Current Bonus Rate:   
541.66416%
Standard Rate:   
5.00311%
Total APR:   
546.66727%
Daily Rate:   
0.22750%

Interesting. Can you tell me more how this interest works? Is it the same as staking coins leaving your wallet open or do you need to participate in something? Hodlcoin has a much higher APR rate than EverGreenCoin, so it has definitely brought my attention. I'm always on the lookout for high APR PoS coins.  :)


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: adamvp on September 06, 2016, 04:47:57 AM

7% yearly??
HodlCoin pays like below:
Quote
Current Bonus Rate:   
541.66416%
Standard Rate:   
5.00311%
Total APR:   
546.66727%
Daily Rate:   
0.22750%

Interesting. Can you tell me more how this interest works? Is it the same as staking coins leaving your wallet open or do you need to participate in something? Hodlcoin has a much higher APR rate than EverGreenCoin, so it has definitely brought my attention. I'm always on the lookout for high APR PoS coins.  :)

You have to lock your coins. This  is blockchain interest. You have to wait till lock time end. Further details you can find here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1317918.0;topicseen


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Penttikuisma on September 06, 2016, 10:45:04 AM
Decred, you can delegate voting right to stakepool. Stakepools only have voting right, so it's not possible to lose your coins.


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Abiky on September 06, 2016, 05:58:52 PM

You have to lock your coins. This  is blockchain interest. You have to wait till lock time end. Further details you can find here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1317918.0;topicseen

Thanks for sharing this with me mate. I'm looking into how it works and I have to say that it has really brought my attention. Considering that Hodlcoin is cheap right now, I might grab a few coins to test this out. Hope that I'll make the wise investment decision doing this.  :D


Decred, you can delegate voting right to stakepool. Stakepools only have voting right, so it's not possible to lose your coins.

Sounds cool. I'm researching more about this and so far it looks very promising. This is somewhat similar to NEM's delegated harvesting by the way, but worth the shot. Another good thing that DCR has is decentralized governance where users can decide upon the future of the digital currency.  :)


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: OKorator on September 06, 2016, 06:04:49 PM
Hi, the opposite of my other thread. Coins that you dont need to have your wallet open 24/7.

like the below which i like

Zeitcoin, Mintcoin, NEM

OKcash, currently at 20% stake... good timing still.


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Penttikuisma on September 07, 2016, 12:29:06 PM

You have to lock your coins. This  is blockchain interest. You have to wait till lock time end. Further details you can find here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1317918.0;topicseen

Thanks for sharing this with me mate. I'm looking into how it works and I have to say that it has really brought my attention. Considering that Hodlcoin is cheap right now, I might grab a few coins to test this out. Hope that I'll make the wise investment decision doing this.  :D


Decred, you can delegate voting right to stakepool. Stakepools only have voting right, so it's not possible to lose your coins.

Sounds cool. I'm researching more about this and so far it looks very promising. This is somewhat similar to NEM's delegated harvesting by the way, but worth the shot. Another good thing that DCR has is decentralized governance where users can decide upon the future of the digital currency.  :)



Here's some good information : https://wiki.decred.org/Introduction#Meritocratic_Governance

Imo Decred seems to be one of the best projects around


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Marc De Mesel on September 07, 2016, 06:14:02 PM
NXT ofcourse.


The only one having no inflation, miners are payed with the transaction fees only.

This means, you don't have to validate transactions to keep your share of the currency.

So no need to have client open.


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: crairezx20 on September 07, 2016, 06:16:40 PM
This is a good thing i never heard that thing here that you can leave and dont open your wallet just to stake it for 24 hours.
But i saw it looks like more pos coin right now are good to hold because you are taking interest while your wallet making interest.


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Abiky on September 07, 2016, 10:30:37 PM

Here's some good information : https://wiki.decred.org/Introduction#Meritocratic_Governance

Imo Decred seems to be one of the best projects around

Thank you again, mate. This governance system from DCR looks a lot better (in my opinion) than Dash's decentralized governance. It has a pretty good mining algo, as well as being able to stake your DCR stake. I think that it is pretty undervalued in my opinion, but a good chance to get some cheap coins.  ;D


NXT ofcourse.


The only one having no inflation, miners are payed with the transaction fees only.

This means, you don't have to validate transactions to keep your share of the currency.

So no need to have client open.

I've never thought that you could stake your NXT without the need to leave your wallet open 24/7. So that means that I can forge for example 10,000 NXT and then be able to receive stakes the next day without opening NXT wallet? If so, then it is pretty awesome. Also, NXT will be changing soon to Ardor so I think that this will make it a profitable journey for early NXT holders.  :)


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Marc De Mesel on September 09, 2016, 01:47:41 PM
NXT ofcourse.


The only one having no inflation, miners are payed with the transaction fees only.

This means, you don't have to validate transactions to keep your share of the currency.

So no need to have client open.

I've never thought that you could stake your NXT without the need to leave your wallet open 24/7. So that means that I can forge for example 10,000 NXT and then be able to receive stakes the next day without opening NXT wallet? If so, then it is pretty awesome. Also, NXT will be changing soon to Ardor so I think that this will make it a profitable journey for early NXT holders.  :)

Actually, it's little different. What I meant is that you don't have to stake because you don't lose your percentage ownership in the coin if you don't stake. Most POS coins have inflation that goes to stakers, and so if you don't stake, you are losing slowly but steadily your percentage ownership of the coin. So, you have to stake.

With NXT this is not the case because there is no inflation. The stakers get payed with the transaction fees only.


But you seem to be interested to stake without having your wallet open. This actually is possible in NXT as well, you can basically lease your staking power of your coins to another account, and they will stake with your coins, but they can't spend your coins, so you have no counterparty risk.

In NXT they call staking, forging. A 'forging pool' usually takes a share of the forging income. You have to renew this only once per month or so, so shortly login and then you can close your wallet again for a month.  8)


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Abiky on September 10, 2016, 09:40:15 PM

Actually, it's little different. What I meant is that you don't have to stake because you don't lose your percentage ownership in the coin if you don't stake. Most POS coins have inflation that goes to stakers, and so if you don't stake, you are losing slowly but steadily your percentage ownership of the coin. So, you have to stake.

With NXT this is not the case because there is no inflation. The stakers get payed with the transaction fees only.


But you seem to be interested to stake without having your wallet open. This actually is possible in NXT as well, you can basically lease your staking power of your coins to another account, and they will stake with your coins, but they can't spend your coins, so you have no counterparty risk.

In NXT they call staking, forging. A 'forging pool' usually takes a share of the forging income. You have to renew this only once per month or so, so shortly login and then you can close your wallet again for a month.  8)


Thanks for the info, mate! It is good to know that you can also stake NXT without leaving your wallet open with the option to lease your coins to the other account. Still, what would be the minimum amount of NXT to have in order to begin forging? I have some NXT but it doesn't start forging maybe because I don't have enough NXT to begin with the process.

Anyways, NXT has been one of my favorite alt coins and I hope that with the release of Ardor it would be even better.


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: sayyedraza on September 10, 2016, 10:21:57 PM
I think POSwallet is Nice but they charge 1-1.5% fee for deposit any listed coin . (Like Net coin they Charge 1.5% )
You can even request them to add new coin too

Thanks
Regards
sayyedraza


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Marc De Mesel on September 11, 2016, 09:40:57 AM

Thanks for the info, mate! It is good to know that you can also stake NXT without leaving your wallet open with the option to lease your coins to the other account. Still, what would be the minimum amount of NXT to have in order to begin forging? I have some NXT but it doesn't start forging maybe because I don't have enough NXT to begin with the process.

Anyways, NXT has been one of my favorite alt coins and I hope that with the release of Ardor it would be even better.

I think it's 1000 nxt or so the minimum u need to stake. But do note that returns are also quite low from staking, it's only 1% or 2% per year. Now with the bonus program it's maybe 3%.

Nxt/Ardor is not so interesting if you are only in it for mining and dumping, but if you are in it to build a coin stash that hopefully goes up a lot, and so hold the Nxt/Ardor than you may make great returns, not so much thanks to mining but thanks to the coin going up more as others because it favors investors more than others.


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Daffadile on September 12, 2016, 03:57:10 PM

7% yearly??
HodlCoin pays like below:
Quote
Current Bonus Rate:   
541.66416%
Standard Rate:   
5.00311%
Total APR:   
546.66727%
Daily Rate:   
0.22750%

Interesting. Can you tell me more how this interest works? Is it the same as staking coins leaving your wallet open or do you need to participate in something? Hodlcoin has a much higher APR rate than EverGreenCoin, so it has definitely brought my attention. I'm always on the lookout for high APR PoS coins.  :)

You have to lock your coins. This  is blockchain interest. You have to wait till lock time end. Further details you can find here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1317918.0;topicseen

OMG ! I love Hodl I love the whole idea of it and how it works. I always put my hodl coins in for a full year for the max return. Do it now for massive earnings early on. The rate goes down so I do not know what it will be at the years end but it is still worth it.


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Abiky on September 12, 2016, 05:42:27 PM
I think POSwallet is Nice but they charge 1-1.5% fee for deposit any listed coin . (Like Net coin they Charge 1.5% )
You can even request them to add new coin too

Thanks
Regards
sayyedraza

Sounds like a great cloud staking service to try. I've had a bad experience with Stakeminers and Staisybit, hopefully this new service would be reliable at last. As long as it delivers as promised, there should be nothing to worry about. But still, as with any investment it is advised to proceed with caution.  :)



I think it's 1000 nxt or so the minimum u need to stake. But do note that returns are also quite low from staking, it's only 1% or 2% per year. Now with the bonus program it's maybe 3%.

Nxt/Ardor is not so interesting if you are only in it for mining and dumping, but if you are in it to build a coin stash that hopefully goes up a lot, and so hold the Nxt/Ardor than you may make great returns, not so much thanks to mining but thanks to the coin going up more as others because it favors investors more than others.


Great. Thanks for the tip. I'll grab some more NXT while they're cheap as it may be suddenly pumped once Ardor comes live. If the price goes up, I would have made profit along with the stakes that I may receive.



OMG ! I love Hodl I love the whole idea of it and how it works. I always put my hodl coins in for a full year for the max return. Do it now for massive earnings early on. The rate goes down so I do not know what it will be at the years end but it is still worth it.

Sounds exciting! I will give this a try and see how profitable it would be. Since Hodlcoin is very cheap now, I will grab a bunch of these coins and see my return in a year. This alt coin has been added to my favorite list of CPU mineable coins.  :D


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: Johnny00 on September 12, 2016, 07:56:01 PM
I feel that NXT was already pumped. before once Ardor comes as NXT will go to zero


Title: Re: POS coin that you don't need wallet open 24/7?
Post by: MyLucky7 on September 13, 2016, 04:48:41 AM
In fact many POS coins you can stake perhaps once per month and still can earn roughly equal to those stake 24/7. You only lose some compound interests which are very small in amount.