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Title: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: crazyates on March 28, 2013, 09:59:42 PM https://twitter.com/BFL_News/status/317121160728936450
https://twitter.com/BFL_News/status/317121271890583552 Quote BFL_Josh (Shoutbox) - Things are going well, I should have a pretty big update tomorrow. I got some stuff now, but I will release it all at once when I have everything together and all the answers people seek. https://twitter.com/BFL_News/status/317269605276057600 Quote BFL_Nasser (Shoutbox) - We have something special coming up. Stay tuned... https://twitter.com/BFL_News/status/317389793430482945 Quote BFL_Josh (Shoutbox) - Don't expect any news until later tonight. Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: Frizz23 on March 28, 2013, 10:48:21 PM BFL_Josh (Shoutbox) - Things are going well, I should have a pretty big update tomorrow. Geee ... what will that be? Lots of yadda yadda - and a new shipping date. Sometime in April. Which is of course just another guesstimate that's never gonna materialize ... Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: fulepp on March 28, 2013, 10:53:44 PM I believe they have designed and tested the water cooling system for the rig. :) Of course without the real rig because they are still waiting for the new PCB to arrive.
Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: Frizz23 on March 28, 2013, 10:58:23 PM I believe they have designed and tested the water cooling system for the rig. :) Of course without the real rig because they are still waiting for the new PCB to arrive. You mean instead of a Box of Fans they now have a Box of Water? ;) http://images.otto.de/asset/mmo/formatz/Aquarium-Rekord-5310633.jpg Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: FuzzyBear on March 28, 2013, 11:16:15 PM FAKE_BFL_UPDATE - BFL got the chip working and they are pleased to announce that they have met their power requirements of 1GH per Watt and hence will NOT have to pay any BTC to charity :P
.. oh and shipping will commence around mid april = start of may... second waffer and all other chips have been bumped so basically BFL will just unleash 100's of TH on the network at once so no one will get any ROI or advantage... but it OK as BFL met their target and produced an ASIC so don't get a scammer tag Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: billotronic on March 28, 2013, 11:39:24 PM 3/29 : BFL_Josh announces he was indeed the second gunman on the Grassy Knoll.
(just as feasible at this point, right? Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: Rishodi on March 29, 2013, 09:00:15 AM Link to update (http://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-2.html#post20942)
Summary: They claim to now have working prototypes, but the problem is that the power consumption is missing their goal of 1W/GH/s by 70%+. The units weren't designed for such high power requirements, so they have to underclock them, thus reducing the hashrate. So, I wonder which charity or charities will be the lucky recipient(s) of 1000 BTC (https://forums.butterflylabs.com/content/123-bfl-offers-1000-btc-charity-if-they-miss-their-power-targets.html)? Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: reg on March 29, 2013, 09:03:36 AM 3/29
Unofficial BFL News @BFL_News 2h BFL_Josh - March 28th update - https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-2.html#post20942 … - Units hashing, potential power issue, will ship promised hash rate regardless. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite More. reg Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: Korbman on March 29, 2013, 12:06:23 PM Link to update (http://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-2.html#post20942) Summary: They claim to now have working prototypes, but the problem is that the power consumption is missing their goal of 1W/GH/s by 70%+. The units weren't designed for such high power requirements, so they have to underclock them, thus reducing the hashrate. So, I wonder which charity or charities will be the lucky recipient(s) of 1000 BTC (https://forums.butterflylabs.com/content/123-bfl-offers-1000-btc-charity-if-they-miss-their-power-targets.html)? Bummer. Not sure if anyone knows this, but how far are they underclocking the ASICs? My guess would be back to the initial 40GH/s they advertised during the first months. Still 1.7W/GH/s still isn't bad (assuming I read that correctly...still early here :D). Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: Frizz23 on March 29, 2013, 12:14:07 PM Still 1.7W/GH/s still isn't bad (assuming I read that correctly...still early here :D). It's just the casing, heatsink and fan are not designed for so much heat. So don't be surprised if you smell burnt plastic 30 seconds after you turned your BFL ASIC on - and a big flame after 60 seconds ... ;D http://www.seered.co.uk/141_4197.jpg Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: GernMiester on March 29, 2013, 08:53:02 PM Still 1.7W/GH/s still isn't bad (assuming I read that correctly...still early here :D). It's just the casing, heatsink and fan are not designed for so much heat. So don't be surprised if you smell burnt plastic 30 seconds after you turned your BFL ASIC on - and a big flame after 60 seconds ... ;D http://www.seered.co.uk/141_4197.jpg indeed 7 months late arpil few days away then comes cock lover josh aka inaba aka eclipse mininnig scumm and says well we maneged to make soem chips workd at 200 watts will shiip to manage ur order aka 3 4 units with multiples units worst then bfl just so we can say we cshippend somehting but cant comit to shipping date as of yet after 7 month?s this fakin monkey of a josh should be raped in the ass if his straight I am not happy about the delay but, how can I put this, tiberiusing his julius ceaser door.. Thats just wrong... Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: PatMan on March 30, 2013, 01:46:53 AM It's gonna be a big announcement about a big announcement near the end of the year. Maybe. If they're still around then.
Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: Bitcoin Computer on March 30, 2013, 02:28:52 AM Well I bought a 1500gh/s rig and a 60gh/s rig from them....
No risk no reward man.... And I bought a PrimeAsic 80gh/s machine and 2 Avalon ASICs 85gh/s The big announcement is they are testing and tho they hash at the proper hash rate the power consumption is higher than they state which I believe they are fixing. You guys should be a little more patience as I'm sure they mentioned almost posting a video of the test and said they will this weekend. This is a tough market to be in and it's gonna work. Just don't be the last to buy and be left on an island talking to a volleyball once they prove to work. Hey, everyone doubted Abalon ASIC from the start. Had you not and bought 30 of them for 1200 you would be dancing around naked. But hey they cost $8k now.. Get ready, the crow is cooking and almost ready to eat. 1.810TH/S of Mining soon... What shall I buy? Hmmmmmmm maybe a unicorn to go next to the table with my machines? ;) Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: DrG on March 30, 2013, 02:57:45 AM Well I bought a 1500gh/s rig and a 60gh/s rig from them.... No risk no reward man.... And I bought a PrimeAsic 80gh/s machine and 2 Avalon ASICs 85gh/s The big announcement is they are testing and tho they hash at the proper hash rate the power consumption is higher than they state which I believe they are fixing. You guys should be a little more patience as I'm sure they mentioned almost posting a video of the test and said they will this weekend. This is a tough market to be in and it's gonna work. Just don't be the last to buy and be left on an island talking to a volleyball once they prove to work. Hey, everyone doubted Abalon ASIC from the start. Had you not and bought 30 of them for 1200 you would be dancing around naked. But hey they cost $8k now.. Get ready, the crow is cooking and almost ready to eat. 1.810TH/S of Mining soon... What shall I buy? Hmmmmmmm maybe a unicorn to go next to the table with my machines? ;) I've talked to patients on the psych ward with 5150s who made more sense. I'm going to guess paint chips as a kid :o Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: Rishodi on March 30, 2013, 07:22:23 AM New test video from BFL shows one of their SC boards running at 160W (167% over target): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C4bgho5JSI
Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: crazyates on March 30, 2013, 03:55:19 PM New test video from BFL shows one of their SC boards running at 160W (167% over target): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C4bgho5JSI Sadly that 160W was only at 34GH/s IIRC. Way above target, but still lower than Avalon. I want to see what the final numbers are. Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: PatMan on March 30, 2013, 04:23:13 PM Well I bought a 1500gh/s rig and a 60gh/s rig from them.... No risk no reward man.... And I bought a PrimeAsic 80gh/s machine and 2 Avalon ASICs 85gh/s The big announcement is they are testing and tho they hash at the proper hash rate the power consumption is higher than they state which I believe they are fixing. You guys should be a little more patience as I'm sure they mentioned almost posting a video of the test and said they will this weekend. This is a tough market to be in and it's gonna work. Just don't be the last to buy and be left on an island talking to a volleyball once they prove to work. Hey, everyone doubted Abalon ASIC from the start. Had you not and bought 30 of them for 1200 you would be dancing around naked. But hey they cost $8k now.. Get ready, the crow is cooking and almost ready to eat. 1.810TH/S of Mining soon... What shall I buy? Hmmmmmmm maybe a unicorn to go next to the table with my machines? ;) Scammer tag for this guy please......more details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148832.580 Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: k9quaint on March 30, 2013, 05:32:37 PM Is BFL is the most elaborate April Fools joke ever?
I shudder to think of the massive amounts of money that could have been made simply by buying BTC @ ~$5 each (last year around June) and holding them instead of pre-ordering a mini-rig from BFL. $30,000.00 / $5 is 6000 BTC, which at today's value would be $546,000.00. Grats on missing out on half a million dollars. Just think, what if BFL horded their BTC? Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: Korbman on March 30, 2013, 08:12:55 PM New test video from BFL shows one of their SC boards running at 160W (167% over target): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C4bgho5JSI Sadly that 160W was only at 34GH/s IIRC. Way above target, but still lower than Avalon. I want to see what the final numbers are. At this point I don't even care. Just start getting them out the door to people who want them, and then make it up to them later by swapping to the fixed product. The difficulty is low enough where power consumption doesn't much matter (and will be for a while)..just look at Avalon :D Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: Frizz23 on March 30, 2013, 08:30:36 PM Sadly that 160W was only at 34GH/s IIRC. So it's 280W for 60GH/s. Slightly above the 60W BFL promised. Quote Way above target, but still lower than Avalon. I want to see what the final numbers are. Thing is: Avalon can handle the heat. BFL? 280W with a heatsink the size of a CPU cooler? Not so sure ... Can you spot the difference? ;) http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/k9l5-18-17e6.jpg Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: crazyates on March 30, 2013, 09:04:09 PM Making the BFL picture smaller than the Avalon picture is great for emphasizing your point, but it's not quite relevant to the final product. As long as the temp is lower than Avalon's, I'm all set
https://i.imgur.com/kkW0hHE.jpg (http://imgur.com/kkW0hHE) Even my BFL Single doesn't get to 50C on the heatsink. Who knows what the actual chip temps are. Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: Frizz23 on March 30, 2013, 09:17:33 PM Making the BFL picture smaller than the Avalon picture is great for emphasizing your point ... Come on, Crazyates, you can't be that retarded! You do realize that BFLs heatsink looks smaller in the picture because it is substantially smaller than Avalons? - Avalons come in a casing the size of a PC (Midi-Tower) -> room for huge heatsinks - BFL Single SCs come in a casing with size 10cm x 10cm (approx) -> only room for a tiny heatsink The little box on the lower right is a BFL Single SC: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/bfl_hardware_josh_presenting_nefario_is_interested_too.png ... and here is an Avalon miner: http://assets2.motherboard.tv/content-images/contentimage/no-slug/e8ee09daeb590d7c5b3b8f68b59184dc.jpg Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: Beta-coiner1 on March 31, 2013, 03:13:18 AM I have to say I don't think BFL is a scam but there tactics are definitely scam-like.However,after reading this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78192.msg1707177#msg1707177) I do think there products will hit the market and likely the difficulty as well.
Title: Re: 3/28 What's BFL's big announcement? Post by: tacotime on March 31, 2013, 06:02:08 PM That thermal design is laughable and has 120w+ in fans alone. I'm really wondering who thought it was a great idea to just stack a bunch of their Singles on top of each other and then put a wall of fans on either side. From that picture the airflow looks abysmal. Meanwhile avalon dissipates ~500w with 20w of 120mm fans. |
