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Economy => Computer hardware => Topic started by: eestimees on March 29, 2013, 10:44:15 AM



Title: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: eestimees on March 29, 2013, 10:44:15 AM
willing to sell my 1 week old Avalon from batch #1 for 750 BTC.

Location EU.

video https://vimeo.com/62927893 (https://vimeo.com/62927893)

Buyer will get whatever more proof he/she needs.

The way I see it is:
* buyer send PM so I'll book Avalon for him/her
* buyer takes a plane to get here (europe)
* I have office next to airport, we'll go there so buyer can see avalon is indeed working and everything is ok
* buyers makes a btc transfer
* we'll drink coffee/tea
* when i see 750btc in my wallet I'll take buyer back to airport
* deal done

Offer stands until it's sold or I change my mind :)


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: Bowjob on March 29, 2013, 11:00:17 AM
Wow.


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: 2weiX on March 29, 2013, 11:12:52 AM
EU where?

surely you mistyped "75" in your offer.
I'll bite for 75.


no seriously. 750 BTC? FIFTYSIXTHOUSANDEURO?!

nope.


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: silverston on March 29, 2013, 11:14:32 AM
Estonia?


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: eestimees on March 29, 2013, 11:16:32 AM
750 btc is correct, take it or leave it

country: estonia


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: Bowjob on March 29, 2013, 11:17:49 AM
750 btc is correct, take it or leave it

country: estonia

We'll leave it. Thanks for the video though.


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: 2weiX on March 29, 2013, 11:18:06 AM
750 btc is correct, take it or leave it

country: estonia


dont we have a "delusional" subforum?


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: eestimees on March 29, 2013, 11:18:52 AM
dont we have a "delusional" subforum?

 ;D

I was thinking what would be the price to give up my Avalon, and I came to the conclusion, that this is that number  ;)


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: 2weiX on March 29, 2013, 11:26:50 AM
dont we have a "delusional" subforum?

 ;D

I was thinking what would be the price to give up my Avalon, and I came to the conclusion, that this is that number  ;)



well, thanks for wasting everyones time :D


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: eestimees on March 29, 2013, 11:30:26 AM
dont we have a "delusional" subforum?

 ;D

I was thinking what would be the price to give up my Avalon, and I came to the conclusion, that this is that number  ;)



well, thanks for wasting everyones time :D

Nobody asked/force you to waster your time on me  :D :D :D


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: silverston on March 29, 2013, 11:32:40 AM
euro accepted?


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: eestimees on March 29, 2013, 11:41:47 AM
euro accepted?

only BTC


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: xorred on March 29, 2013, 11:53:25 AM
You're now mining at 4 BTC/day - and will have made 750 BTC in 187 days if nobody else joins in the asic game. However, the difficulty is going to jump at least 66 million in 1 month - then, you'll be making 0.4 btc / day and it will take you 3 years to mine 750 BTC.

So whoever bites on this offer is clearly an idiot. And you are clever, my friend, for trying to rip off people with lots of BTC and not enough brains - wish you good luck! Your investment is RAPIDLY declining in value - while, if I had 750 BTC, it's value is growing by 10% per day, looking at the USD/BTC ratios last few days...


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: eestimees on March 29, 2013, 12:13:55 PM
You're now mining at 4 BTC/day - and will have made 750 BTC in 187 days if nobody else joins in the asic game. However, the difficulty is going to jump at least 66 million in 1 month - then, you'll be making 0.4 btc / day and it will take you 3 years to mine 750 BTC.

So whoever bites on this offer is clearly an idiot. And you are clever, my friend, for trying to rip off people with lots of BTC and not enough brains - wish you good luck! Your investment is RAPIDLY declining in value - while, if I had 750 BTC, it's value is growing by 10% per day, looking at the USD/BTC ratios last few days...

sooner or later the diff will be as you write "66M", but in a month.. well that is "delusional" :D :D :D
In my calculations it will only happen when avalon and bfl will ship majority of their orders at once in a very short timeframe - but each of us is smarter than others and every individual thinks their calculations are correct, including me :) I have my believes what will happen during this year in the btc asic world, and I'm very lucky I had faith to order 1st batch avalon, At the moment I'm 1 of 300 lucky persons in the world :)

so offer still stands, I'm not in the situation that I need to sell my Avalon, I enjoy watch my script that I made and hear the sound of every euro I make, depending on the mined btc's and exchange rate :) I must say it is very nice to hear coin-drop in every 4-5 minutes or so :)


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: zvs on March 29, 2013, 04:17:48 PM
You're now mining at 4 BTC/day - and will have made 750 BTC in 187 days if nobody else joins in the asic game. However, the difficulty is going to jump at least 66 million in 1 month - then, you'll be making 0.4 btc / day and it will take you 3 years to mine 750 BTC.

So whoever bites on this offer is clearly an idiot. And you are clever, my friend, for trying to rip off people with lots of BTC and not enough brains - wish you good luck! Your investment is RAPIDLY declining in value - while, if I had 750 BTC, it's value is growing by 10% per day, looking at the USD/BTC ratios last few days...

sooner or later the diff will be as you write "66M", but in a month.. well that is "delusional" :D :D :D
In my calculations it will only happen when avalon and bfl will ship majority of their orders at once in a very short timeframe - but each of us is smarter than others and every individual thinks their calculations are correct, including me :) I have my believes what will happen during this year in the btc asic world, and I'm very lucky I had faith to order 1st batch avalon, At the moment I'm 1 of 300 lucky persons in the world :)

so offer still stands, I'm not in the situation that I need to sell my Avalon, I enjoy watch my script that I made and hear the sound of every euro I make, depending on the mined btc's and exchange rate :) I must say it is very nice to hear coin-drop in every 4-5 minutes or so :)


the only thing delusional would be someone paying 750 btc for this

because, either a) the price of btc will fall, and they'll be out a whole lot, or b) the price of btc will rise, and they would have been better off buying 750 btc...  

750 btc is $86,000, why even clutter with such nonsense

keep watching your script


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: eestimees on March 29, 2013, 05:21:02 PM
750 btc is $86,000, why even clutter with such nonsense

keep watching your script

well when you put in usd's it is much.. :D - on the other hand.. xorred said "You're now mining at 4 BTC/day - and will have made 750 BTC in 187 days if nobody else joins in the asic game." - I'll sum it up in approx 6monts if I still have an Avalon...

meanwhile I'll listen that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMAI-OIxLPo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMAI-OIxLPo), drink beer and keep an eye on my coin-drops :)


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: tigerfree on March 29, 2013, 05:44:24 PM
with this money you can buy FPGA Cluster or GPU even less .


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: eestimees on March 29, 2013, 06:15:08 PM
You could order FPGA's: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160664.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160664.0)
ROI is about the same.. 1pcs = 960 usd = ~10 btc, hashes today 0.06 btc => 166 days.. go figure...  :)


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: ChanceCoats123 on March 29, 2013, 06:31:08 PM
I guess you don't really get that the bitcoin mining difficulty is not constant. It has been rapidly increasing for the past 2-3 months because the price has made it profitable for people to keep mining, and Avalon released ASICs for new miners. That 187 pay off is ONLY if the difficulty stays exactly where it is, and it won't. As xorred posted, ROI for your Avalon at 750 BTC is 3+ years. No thanks...


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: eestimees on March 29, 2013, 07:10:10 PM
I guess you don't really get that the bitcoin mining difficulty is not constant. It has been rapidly increasing for the past 2-3 months because the price has made it profitable for people to keep mining, and Avalon released ASICs for new miners. That 187 pay off is ONLY if the difficulty stays exactly where it is, and it won't. As xorred posted, ROI for your Avalon at 750 BTC is 3+ years. No thanks...

as is the ROI for Cairnsmore1 as well.. and so on..

I do get exactly what influences the difficulty, the question is will there be variables that influence it in the near future or not.

Ok, I'll stop reply'ing and explaining. As I stated no need for me to sell it, but that was the price that I would be willing to sell. period. so If you want to make an offer PM'me if not feel free to post you emotions / statements / belives.


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: faisalp on March 30, 2013, 01:53:07 AM
this is getting crazy, even for me...


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: hanti on March 30, 2013, 02:12:17 AM
is it really only 4btc per day ? - it should be 14BTC with 65000mh/s so its only 2 months to pay back for itself

edit: nvm ;) it was x3 ;p


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: coinnewb on March 30, 2013, 07:16:32 AM
is it really only 4btc per day ? - it should be 14BTC with 65000mh/s so its only 2 months to pay back for itself

edit: nvm ;) it was x3 ;p

It should be close to BTC5 per day at current difficulty.  When overclocked, it should be closer to BTC5.26.
Assuming that the difficulty increases linearly to 5x of the current difficulty in 1 year, BTC750 would pay back itself in about 220 to 250 days ignoring power cost.

Is that too long?  The answer will depend on who you ask!


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: AndyRossy on March 30, 2013, 08:32:23 AM
A more sensible price and i'd maybe try and get a group buy...


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: eestimees on April 02, 2013, 06:40:40 PM
38,5btc mined in 1 week... (since I got it) so ...


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on April 02, 2013, 06:48:42 PM
I think 750 BTC is a bit too much. I'm auctioning half of mine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=165105) right now starting at 0.5 BTC per 1 out of 50 shares total. Theoretically you could own half of the 85GH/s box profits for 25 BTC that way. 750 BTC for a single unit is a bit extreme.


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: faisalp on April 02, 2013, 09:06:34 PM
one minor difference is yours is in batch #3, lol


Title: Re: [WTS] Avalon from #1 batch
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on April 02, 2013, 09:08:31 PM
one minor difference is yours is in batch #3, lol
Alas, mine is 85GH/s though, which may make up for the time difference! Not sure myself!