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Title: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: Ares5000 on March 29, 2013, 11:08:35 AM
I have a few friends interested in getting one of the over-priced batch #2 pre-order AVALON rigs up for sale now and thought about opening it up to more people.
Will be able to get one of the early units that should be shipping in 2 weeks and will be good to get some mining in before the flood.
Been running some numbers and will have 2000 total shares at $10 a piece. Found a better deal which could drop total # of shares to 1500.

This is a lifetime thing. You're buying a piece of the AVALON.
If there comes a time when the AVALON makes a better doorstop then miner, I'll break it up into 2500 little pieces and mail you a piece.
Already have $10k into hardware and will be using that to reinvest in more hardware/updates/electrical & maintenance.

Given current difficulty & BTC you'll have your $10 investment per share back in 25 days. (bitcoinX)

For the first 2 months revenue will be sent out weekly via BTC.
Then bi-weekly for the following 4 months and then finally monthly.
Shares can be transferred/sold at any time.

0 of 1500 shares remaining at $10 each

EDIT: Found a cheaper AVALON so lowered number of total shares... Again  ;D


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: jbravo55414 on March 29, 2013, 02:25:39 PM
I would be interested -- can you send me an email at krbonge0038@gmail.com so we can can go over some more details


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: gmiwenht on March 29, 2013, 03:13:23 PM
I am interested. PM me the specific details. Do you actually have the Avalons yet? I am kind of confused at to your exact terms and conditions.


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: airliner on March 29, 2013, 03:29:59 PM
yeah. post more info in the thread or PM.


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: jedunnigan on March 29, 2013, 03:55:49 PM
This guy hasn't offered any sort of proof that he bought a unit or what sort of credibility he has here on the forums/IRL. Smells fishy.

Tread with caution my friends.


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: Rockford on March 29, 2013, 05:34:08 PM
This guy hasn't offered any sort of proof that he bought a unit or what sort of credibility he has here on the forums/IRL. Smells fishy.

Tread with caution my friends.

+1

Please elaborate your offer and provide some proof.


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: Aozora21 on March 29, 2013, 05:42:33 PM
yeah i'd like some proof and a PM about it


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: Ares5000 on March 29, 2013, 06:03:09 PM
Hey just edited original and dropped the total number of shares as I've found a lower priced unit & PMs sent.

Currently I'm gathering funds to purchase one of the inflated-price early-order batch #2 units that will go through escrow and be shipped to me in CA, USA where I'll run it. If there is enough interest, I'll gladly raise the total # of shares to purchase 2. But as of now, just getting 1.

I've got no clue how the BTC market & difficulty will look in a year as soon as batch 3 & BFL start shipping, so the idea is to get one as early as possible from Batch 2 up running.

All BTC that it brings in will be divided by the total # shares and sent out weekly for the first few months as it should be generating quite a bit. Then bi-weekly and eventually monthly/yearly if the difficulty ever gets crazy.

Operation/maintenance fees that will be associated with it will come out of my shares.

I've been reading up on mining contracts and how others are run, having a small core group of regular owners for the lifetime of the hardware sounded the best to me.

You can sell/transfer as often as you'd like, with no fees.

I've looked in to setting up a Corp in the US, but that will come with all sort of fun taxes and regulations which is what BTC isn't really all about.

Will have a site for owners to login and see the status, income & payments made.

If you're located in CA and want to grab a drink sometime, I'm up for that to...


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: jedunnigan on March 29, 2013, 10:25:55 PM
Here buddy let me help you out... go to the Custom Hardware subforum and check out how legit coop mining operations get into motion.

You're going to need a lot more than what you've got to be taken seriously.


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: Kárhozat on March 29, 2013, 10:39:05 PM
good luck everyone


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: MrThePlague on March 29, 2013, 10:51:29 PM
Please PM me more info!


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: Ares5000 on March 30, 2013, 06:11:59 PM
Just an update, currently the highest bidder on a unit while talking with another seller for the possibility of getting 2x.

Currently 600 shares available for 1x

There has also been quite a few questions about the "life time" term. I'm sure there will come a time when the next version of hardware is released where running this will no longer be generating much, if anything. What that point is and what we do after is open for discussion. Selling the hardware off and splitting that up is one such idea...


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: John Self on March 30, 2013, 07:15:36 PM
Hi Ares

I will be purchasing roughly 20 bitcoins late next week if current exchange rates persist. I am interested in making this type of investment but wonder what incentive there is for me to trust you. Have you got an estimated shipping date for this system? Perhaps I could cancel the bitcoin buy and papal you my investment in USD with the option to dispute if you don't come through, or if you can think of a better system for protecting investment I'd be happy to learn it. Please PM me any details.

JS


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: Ares5000 on March 30, 2013, 07:38:06 PM
PMs all sent out.

This is going to be for an early order Batch #2 unit and should be shipping, directly to me, April 15th as per the AVALON web site. Will be buying from a reputable user on the forum and going through escrow until confirmation comes from AVALON that change of address/ownership has been received.


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: talkingleaves on March 30, 2013, 08:53:54 PM
i'd like a PM with details too, I'm very interested but of course trust must be proven or earned. looking forward to seeing how it goes.


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: Ares5000 on March 31, 2013, 08:24:37 PM
400 shares left and it looks like we should be able to bring the total number of shares down to 1500.


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: gcheddar on March 31, 2013, 09:59:26 PM
If you're located in CA and want to grab a drink sometime, I'm up for that to...

I'll drink to that. I'll even buy. Approximately where in CA are you?


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: logicsol on March 31, 2013, 10:09:23 PM
I'm interested but want a little more info. I'm a bit leery at the moment.


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: s.paulson23 on March 31, 2013, 10:26:06 PM
What ROI? when buterrlabs deliver products


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: Ares5000 on March 31, 2013, 10:53:35 PM
If you're located in CA and want to grab a drink sometime, I'm up for that to...

I'll drink to that. I'll even buy. Approximately where in CA are you?

Down in LA. Torrance to be exact.

No idea what/how/if BFL will deliver and what the market will do then


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: svenp on April 02, 2013, 02:29:32 AM
BFL has always talked about gearing up for thousands of units a month.  Were they to succeed, they could drop +100TH/s on the network per month.  That would obviously be a big, big deal.  I'm not holding my breath for it...  I doubt they'll ship anything this month, perhaps a few hundred in May just to put themselves on the map.


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: ltcminer on April 02, 2013, 02:33:24 AM
again, if i were the asic makers, i would use the devices to mine coins until the hashing difficulty is much higher, then ship out the devices.

why give up your gold egg laying hens while they are still productive (reproductive? ) :)

just plain business sense.


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: svenp on April 02, 2013, 02:42:14 AM
Yes, BUT if you do that you'll never make money selling hardware.  This moment for cashing in big will only last a little while.


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: Ares5000 on April 02, 2013, 03:52:27 AM
Yes, BUT if you do that you'll never make money selling hardware.  This moment for cashing in big will only last a little while.

Which is why we've got the AVALON shares now for a unit that will be shipping out next week  :)


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: jovoscar on April 02, 2013, 02:31:32 PM
Could you pm me the details?  How many shares are available?  Will you accept BTC payment?


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: razorfishsl on April 02, 2013, 02:41:05 PM
BFL has always talked about gearing up for thousands of units a month.  Were they to succeed, they could drop +100TH/s on the network per month.  That would obviously be a big, big deal.  I'm not holding my breath for it...  I doubt they'll ship anything this month, perhaps a few hundred in May just to put themselves on the map.

Good luck to them........

People will only buy if they can get ROI and if you are selling a unit at 1.5k but the ROI is 4 years , then it's really going to dent their sale figures.

more likely they will do what josh is doing... set up a mining company


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: aparadox on April 02, 2013, 05:19:37 PM
Hi Ares,

I'm also interested in the project. Can you provide more details please ? How many shares are left ?


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: Ares5000 on April 02, 2013, 07:09:09 PM
EDIT: Looks like we are all sold out...


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: t13hydra on April 20, 2013, 07:35:43 AM
EDIT: Looks like we are all sold out...

Hi, could you sqeeze in one more person in there? I could buy 40 shares today upfront.

Or better, could we buy another one? I'm sure there are more people interested and eager to get in business somehow.
I know i'm late... just trying to get in before June/July.

Thanks


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: Eaks77 on April 20, 2013, 07:44:21 AM
I'm interested as well... if more shares were generated or another machine was purchased.  Feel free to PM me


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: ShakerRaiders87 on April 20, 2013, 07:45:47 AM
Why would someone who bought one of these want to sell shares?  Why wouldn't they just use it themselves and keep all the profits?


Title: Re: Newbie AVALON ASIC mining buy-in
Post by: t13hydra on April 20, 2013, 10:46:52 AM
Why would someone who bought one of these want to sell shares?  Why wouldn't they just use it themselves and keep all the profits?

Because it was a group-buy.