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Title: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: camelson on September 06, 2016, 05:08:31 PM
How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
New Data Provide Some Answers on the Real Odds for Gambling This really a nice article you people should read it.

The casino billboards lining America's roadways tantalize with the lure of riches. "Easy Street. It's Only a Play Away," screams one in Arizona. "$7.1 Million Every Day. We're a Payout Machine," reads another.

But how often do gamblers really win? What are the chances that a gambler will win on a single day or over a longer period? Don't bother to ask the casinos. Although they gather vast quantities of data about their customers for marketing purposes, including win and loss tallies for many regulars, casinos keep such information a closely-guarded secret.

Now, thanks to an unprecedented trove of public data detailing the behavior of thousands of Internet gamblers over a two-year period, The Wall Street Journal can provide some answers.

On any given day, the chances of emerging a winner aren't too bad—the gamblers won money on 30% of the days they wagered. But continuing to gamble is a bad bet. Just 11% of players ended up in the black over the full period, and most of those pocketed less than $150. The skew was even more pronounced when it came to heavy gamblers. Of the top 10% of bettors—those placing the largest number of total wagers over the two years—about 95% ended up losing money, some dropping tens of thousands of dollars. Big losers of more than $5,000 among these heavy gamblers outnumbered big winners by a staggering 128 to 1. More: http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304626104579123383535635644


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 06, 2016, 05:23:42 PM
So the upshot is that the longer you gamble, the more probabe it is that you're going to end up a loser.  That's the business model of casinos, and they've known this forever.   It's the gamblers who seem unable to grasp this.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: Robertqueen2 on September 06, 2016, 05:45:45 PM
I am not surprised , I know that all casinos earn thousands and millions of Dollars every period of time due to the popularity of the casino , if this fact not true , you won't watch new casinos appear every month , it is very profitable way , or we can say , the casino is a money machine for its owner .


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: ethereumhunter on September 06, 2016, 06:10:52 PM
the gambler will lose the money and the casino will take the money and thats for sure. if we don't think for the next step in gamble while we only got lose in every time we gamble, then we can lose all of our money and its really bad idea if we continue to gamble.

i think when we gamble, we should make some budget and we should quit after the budge is gone and don't try to put another budge if we only get lose everytime.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: lite on September 06, 2016, 06:43:25 PM
Gambling for long period is a bad idea, but we do it anyways. we hope that we'll win something big that's why we keep on gambling, the fact is we never win.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: PeRo on September 06, 2016, 07:10:26 PM
Winnings in gambling and casinos are just stories from people wishing they won. Gamblers actually do not win as often as they claim to win, and usually some gamblers claim that they won several times and big amounts, yet they have never won a single game or a high-roller game. Gamblers just try to make themselves feel better by lying to others and most importantly, to themselves, do not believe in such stories.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: Universat on September 06, 2016, 08:38:12 PM
i think there is not a fixed ratio about  winning or loosing in gambling, it mostly depend on luck, if you are luck then you can even continuously win 20 game in a row, but if you are not luck you can even lose more than 10 in single day.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: tabas on September 07, 2016, 07:06:39 AM
Gambling for long period is a bad idea, but we do it anyways. we hope that we'll win something big that's why we keep on gambling, the fact is we never win.

Gambling for long period for normal gamblers is not really a good thing because the only beneficiary of it are the gambling site owners. And it is really hard to believe that a gambler is going to win often times. But what is happening is that gamblers are just losing daily rather than winning no matter how long they have been gambling.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: zend7 on September 07, 2016, 09:05:32 AM
I think that article is outdated now because its from 2013 , almost 3 years ago without 1 month. Thats the case in every other casino house and not just the bwin which is the case study of the article. I don't agree with that being common that gamblers in the long run lose, I have seen not every one losses but the majority of them which is expected otherwise no bwin websites would still exist. This is a good article for starting out gamblers to not rush and place wager after wager without doing any research. I have learned from the tipsters I follow that they always read a few statistics as minimum before betting on that event.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: hua_hui on September 07, 2016, 09:14:22 AM
I think that article is outdated now because its from 2013 , almost 3 years ago without 1 month. Thats the case in every other casino house and not just the bwin which is the case study of the article. I don't agree with that being common that gamblers in the long run lose, I have seen not every one losses but the majority of them which is expected otherwise no bwin websites would still exist. This is a good article for starting out gamblers to not rush and place wager after wager without doing any research. I have learned from the tipsters I follow that they always read a few statistics as minimum before betting on that event.

Data may be outdated but the data is still very useful for future research. That is why investment book like the millionaire next door and a random walk down wall street are still hugely popular for people to read. It is able to provide insights that can last for generation.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: Caladonian on September 07, 2016, 09:21:01 AM
Gambling for long period is a bad idea, but we do it anyways. we hope that we'll win something big that's why we keep on gambling, the fact is we never win.

Gambling for long period for normal gamblers is not really a good thing because the only beneficiary of it are the gambling site owners. And it is really hard to believe that a gambler is going to win often times. But what is happening is that gamblers are just losing daily rather than winning no matter how long they have been gambling.
But it is also true that theres someone who make gambling for a living as they made it as a profession eapecially those who played with sports bettig they can survive long winning streak and earned enough.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: Indrawan77 on September 07, 2016, 09:36:56 AM
Its really rare that a gambler can win in gambling, most of the time the gambler  will lost it to casino, that is why there are a lot of casino appear, maybe from 20 times playing the gambler can win 1 or 2 times only of they are lucky


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: ronaldo40 on September 07, 2016, 10:24:28 AM
Gambling for long period is a bad idea, but we do it anyways. we hope that we'll win something big that's why we keep on gambling, the fact is we never win.

yes you are right, but without us knowing I playing gambling for a longer period. even 3 years playing and yeah result too much to lose. but I also often get a jackpot, so that makes me continue to play.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: dunfida on September 07, 2016, 11:11:22 AM
Gambling for long period is a bad idea, but we do it anyways. we hope that we'll win something big that's why we keep on gambling, the fact is we never win.

Gambling for long period for normal gamblers is not really a good thing because the only beneficiary of it are the gambling site owners. And it is really hard to believe that a gambler is going to win often times. But what is happening is that gamblers are just losing daily rather than winning no matter how long they have been gambling.
But it is also true that theres someone who make gambling for a living as they made it as a profession eapecially those who played with sports bettig they can survive long winning streak and earned enough.

i do heared also that someone is  making a living in sports betting which is somehow  amazing since gambling is a risky thing and  doesnt  even guarantee you to make profits almost everyday which is very impossible  to happen but there are really people  who make living with it. Some may be experienced enough and some gained some  good tips about   in sport betting.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: electronicfactura on September 07, 2016, 11:20:00 AM
I wonder how anybody can sell the secret of that method with the help of it he can generate a lot of money every day. That sounds fishy and I don't believe into that kind of method or strategies. That is why there is no possible way of like that to make daily guaranteed money.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: TraderETH on September 07, 2016, 11:26:01 AM
I don't too often win on playing gambling, usualy more much lost than win in every weeks i have played gambling about 3-4 Times and lost 2 time and win 1 time and it is not becoming problem because just a little bitcoin.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: futurebit640 on September 07, 2016, 11:38:19 AM
Its really rare that a gambler can win in gambling, most of the time the gambler  will lost it to casino, that is why there are a lot of casino appear, maybe from 20 times playing the gambler can win 1 or 2 times only of they are lucky
I agree that in gambling winning percentage is always favour to house edge, and yes because of that there are a lot of casino's existing. But players also have chance to make money here not in slot games. In sports betting, they have a chance to make a profit. And some people may do long run a profit in sports betting.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: Nahl on September 07, 2016, 03:49:55 PM
i think those data has pretty accurate because like or not this is the fact that over than 50% from the gamblers in the world losing their money during a gambling and only 30% or less has been experience to won and that's why for those who have physical casinos or online casinos they were became more richer day by day


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on September 07, 2016, 06:44:41 PM
It's a bit of a sketchy question & a topic that is pointless analysing. You're never going to be able to figure out 'how often gamblers win'.

It depends on so, so, so many things that you're never going to be able to get the correct answer.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: same21 on November 08, 2016, 03:17:11 AM
I my opinion regarding how often do you gamblers really. I think it cannot be measured as some winnings do happen by luck and some by proven techniques that had come from a series of in-depth experience with gambling. Some winnings are done due to pure fighting spirits and intuition. I guess if you apply all, then you must be lucky one day.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: whizter on November 08, 2016, 10:30:26 AM
Its really rare that a gambler can win in gambling, most of the time the gambler  will lost it to casino, that is why there are a lot of casino appear, maybe from 20 times playing the gambler can win 1 or 2 times only of they are lucky
yes that is a fact that the winning percentage in casino gambling is very rare, one can be lucky very often, but in sports gambling the winning percentage is a little  more that casino gambling, it is my personal experience in the world of gambling.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: digaran on November 08, 2016, 10:32:30 AM
If there was no win and gain I assure you that no one ever would'v played in any gambling sites.
Of course there are times when someone wins big but that person can also lose big as well and you should always account for the lose than winning.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: olubams on November 08, 2016, 12:13:31 PM
If there was no win and gain I assure you that no one ever would'v played in any gambling sites.
Of course there are times when someone wins big but that person can also lose big as well and you should always account for the lose than winning.

In my own opinion, the number of chances of winning or losing is not in any way dependent on the number of plays because its on probability and thats it because I have seen someone play several times and still end up losing while we have seen someone play only a few times and won big. Even whatever strategy one might have in mind or even implement is not a determining factor to winning...


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: BTCLovingDude on November 08, 2016, 12:31:18 PM
you can't really give any statistics on that because gambling is not limited to only one or two types of games and there is a wide variety of them available that we can only see a very small part of it online with bitcoin gambling sites.

on the other hand, it depends on the game. for example in a dice game gamblers surely have a bigger loss counts than wins because of the house edge. but in other games like sports betting if you know your games you can have a much better statistics hence a much higher win rate percentage.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: freedomgo on November 08, 2016, 12:39:30 PM
Well base on experience, when in gambling we lose more than we win. Meaning we have more loses than our winning record. That is happening because gambling has a house edge and we are beaten in the long run. Smart people understand that reality and they only play for fun.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: carlfebz2 on November 08, 2016, 12:45:48 PM
you can't really give any statistics on that because gambling is not limited to only one or two types of games and there is a wide variety of them available that we can only see a very small part of it online with bitcoin gambling sites.

on the other hand, it depends on the game. for example in a dice game gamblers surely have a bigger loss counts than wins because of the house edge. but in other games like sports betting if you know your games you can have a much better statistics hence a much higher win rate percentage.
I agree with you  regarding on  your  statement, theres  no exact statistics  regarding into these  things because  there are  lots  of variety and   types  of gambling   which  we cant really  tally  up  all those   ratio regarding  on  lossers and  winners  but  one  thing  is for sure, there are  lots of  lossers  compare  to winners  and that's the reality  of gambling. Those  who  win are  lucky ones  on that  particular  day.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: arseaboy on November 08, 2016, 01:33:03 PM
you can't really give any statistics on that because gambling is not limited to only one or two types of games and there is a wide variety of them available that we can only see a very small part of it online with bitcoin gambling sites.

on the other hand, it depends on the game. for example in a dice game gamblers surely have a bigger loss counts than wins because of the house edge. but in other games like sports betting if you know your games you can have a much better statistics hence a much higher win rate percentage.
I agree with you  regarding on  your  statement, theres  no exact statistics  regarding into these  things because  there are  lots  of variety and   types  of gambling   which  we cant really  tally  up  all those   ratio regarding  on  lossers and  winners  but  one  thing  is for sure, there are  lots of  lossers  compare  to winners  and that's the reality  of gambling. Those  who  win are  lucky ones  on that  particular  day.

Indeed mate. It's going to be a useless statistics because gambling is a game of prediction and no matter how lucky you are.. like for dice games, slot machines, etc. are some games that really doesn't need a ratio its still a matter of luck and you will still lose at the end of the day or even in the long run.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: clickerz on November 08, 2016, 01:45:06 PM

In my own opinion, the number of chances of winning or losing is not in any way dependent on the number of plays because its on probability and thats it because I have seen someone play several times and still end up losing while we have seen someone play only a few times and won big. Even whatever strategy one might have in mind or even implement is not a determining factor to winning...

depends on Probability or I find it random or purely luck. As I do not have bases, we ca not really determine how often a gambler wins. If it is played online, I will credit it to luck and nothing else.  ;D


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: Shinpako09 on November 08, 2016, 02:50:57 PM
Gamblers won very rare. When you go into a dice site you can see that only few has a positive profit. Like its very rare to see a player who has a positive profit actually. The scenario is something like this you can win once in a week and after that you will lose the rest of the week or you can only win once in every month and then lossing for the rest. Having a profit is very rare.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: tabas on November 08, 2016, 02:54:28 PM

In my own opinion, the number of chances of winning or losing is not in any way dependent on the number of plays because its on probability and thats it because I have seen someone play several times and still end up losing while we have seen someone play only a few times and won big. Even whatever strategy one might have in mind or even implement is not a determining factor to winning...

depends on Probability or I find it random or purely luck. As I do not have bases, we ca not really determine how often a gambler wins. If it is played online, I will credit it to luck and nothing else.  ;D

We can't really say and point out on how does a gambler wins whether he is lucky, using some proper Mathematics and timing or he is in favor of the house. We don't have bases for it but I guess gamblers doesn't often win. Because most of the time they are often losing for it happened to me, very few times of winning but a lot of times for losing.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: novemberwoah on November 08, 2016, 03:07:48 PM
Yes maybe I trust the data. You really any casino definitely has more accurate data so that they suffered heavy losses. I very rarely a gambler who really won and may not even exist 15%. As every gambler winning big definitely been some defeats and with a big bet, so winning is not really a real win.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: dunfida on November 08, 2016, 03:11:55 PM
Winning   percentage  on  playing gambling cant be  counted  hence there are some games  do differ  on  percentage  on winning it  ,  ex.  slot  games compare to  sports betting  we could really say that  sports betting have the edge  because you  could  able to lessen the risk of  lossing  up  thats  why we cant conclude this   kind  of computations .


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: Golftech on November 08, 2016, 03:39:31 PM
Winning   percentage  on  playing gambling cant be  counted  hence there are some games  do differ  on  percentage  on winning it  ,  ex.  slot  games compare to  sports betting  we could really say that  sports betting have the edge  because you  could  able to lessen the risk of  lossing  up  thats  why we cant conclude this   kind  of computations .
i agree with your statement because of that difference a big jackpot coming from slots can be a week of betting inside sports bets , its really hard to say whether gamblers do good winnings aside from those pro who have a good judgement with the games they played, since pro already knew when to stop or when to continue using their skills and lessen the possibility of getting completely burned out.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: Zadicar on November 08, 2016, 03:44:17 PM
Winning   percentage  on  playing gambling cant be  counted  hence there are some games  do differ  on  percentage  on winning it  ,  ex.  slot  games compare to  sports betting  we could really say that  sports betting have the edge  because you  could  able to lessen the risk of  lossing  up  thats  why we cant conclude this   kind  of computations .
i agree with your statement because of that difference a big jackpot coming from slots can be a week of betting inside sports bets , its really hard to say whether gamblers do good winnings aside from those pro who have a good judgement with the games they played, since pro already knew when to stop or when to continue using their skills and lessen the possibility of getting completely burned out.

This  is  also  comes  to  my  mind  which  we cant  really count off the   winning   percentage  of  all gamblers   out there  who  do  plays different  kind of  games . They  have their  own  field  and   winning  rate  is  also different, i agree with  you  there are really  people   who are already proffessional  on some gambling games  which  they   could able to increase the  chance  of winning.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: bithasher on November 08, 2016, 04:08:02 PM
I will say still large number of gamblers are winning often but if we compare this number with those who loose more then there will be difference. What I have seen in physical casinos many people wins in short term but they don't have full stop at their greed or limit of making money and they end at loosing.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: SyGambler on November 08, 2016, 06:51:30 PM
I'm not sure about the numbers in the article , but it's a fact that the more you gamble the more you should expect to lose
even in theory if you want to double your money in gambling you should try to do that in one bet rather than keep betting small amount over and over again ( trying to reach your goal by wagering less )
also the fact that people tend to spend more time and enjoy the ride in real casinos >> more wagers I guess


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: ikydesu on November 08, 2016, 09:07:34 PM
The article date is 2013 seem like the data is not accurate for nowadays.
Well the article is given to gambler to don't much gamble, according to the article, 95% ended up losing money. it's give the house more profit.

Well base on experience, when in gambling we lose more than we win. Meaning we have more loses than our winning record. That is happening because gambling has a house edge and we are beaten in the long run. Smart people understand that reality and they only play for fun.

That's why don't expect profit from gambling, its can be a boomerang.


In my own opinion, the number of chances of winning or losing is not in any way dependent on the number of plays because its on probability and thats it because I have seen someone play several times and still end up losing while we have seen someone play only a few times and won big. Even whatever strategy one might have in mind or even implement is not a determining factor to winning...

depends on Probability or I find it random or purely luck. As I do not have bases, we ca not really determine how often a gambler wins. If it is played online, I will credit it to luck and nothing else.  ;D

Mostly purely luck, but some games which required skill to play, have more chance to win(depends on your skill too), usually mood is could be a decisive factor.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: patt0 on November 08, 2016, 10:56:10 PM
That doesn't pose as a surprise. Gambling does not provide profit in the long run, it was not made for that.
I still believe poker and sports betting could be the only exceptions to this, if you know what you are doing, bu even there is hard, since the odds offered for sports betting are not that high, given the real chance of winning.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: EdenHazard on November 08, 2016, 11:58:19 PM
Winning   percentage  on  playing gambling cant be  counted  hence there are some games  do differ  on  percentage  on winning it  ,  ex.  slot  games compare to  sports betting  we could really say that  sports betting have the edge  because you  could  able to lessen the risk of  lossing  up  thats  why we cant conclude this   kind  of computations .
the only sure thing are the winning will not more often than your losing , isn't it?

as the house edge always better on keeping te line , we are a poor gambler will never break the house and as the result most gambler have negative profit status get more losing often.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: bbc.reporter on November 09, 2016, 12:55:53 AM
You have to question yourself why you are gambling. If you are gambling to win then you are either scamming yourself or would have to acquire the correct skills and then gamble in more skill based games like poker, black jack or sportsbetting. Most casino games make people lose because the house has the edge. You are already a loser before you even sat on the table.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: tabas on November 09, 2016, 01:34:12 AM
You have to question yourself why you are gambling. If you are gambling to win then you are either scamming yourself or would have to acquire the correct skills and then gamble in more skill based games like poker, black jack or sportsbetting. Most casino games make people lose because the house has the edge. You are already a loser before you even sat on the table.

I think the word scamming yourself is not appropriate when a person is gambling. It's either he just doing it because he just can't help himself to stop and thinks that it can be a good source of income. Because even there might be losing still there have a chance of winning but not that too often. But you are right with it on those casino games, considered as loser already upon sitting.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: stadus on November 09, 2016, 02:55:46 AM
You have to question yourself why you are gambling. If you are gambling to win then you are either scamming yourself or would have to acquire the correct skills and then gamble in more skill based games like poker, black jack or sportsbetting. Most casino games make people lose because the house has the edge. You are already a loser before you even sat on the table.

I think the word scamming yourself is not appropriate when a person is gambling. It's either he just doing it because he just can't help himself to stop and thinks that it can be a good source of income. Because even there might be losing still there have a chance of winning but not that too often. But you are right with it on those casino games, considered as loser already upon sitting.
You will only think you are scamming yourself when in the first place you have already accepted that you lose in the game. Real gamblers does not act like that, they are more optimistic that they will win despite of the house advantage of a certain site.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: klf on November 09, 2016, 03:47:10 AM
I will say still large number of gamblers are winning often but if we compare this number with those who loose more then there will be difference. What I have seen in physical casinos many people wins in short term but they don't have full stop at their greed or limit of making money and they end at loosing.

You say at the end they lose back to the house for whatever reason than I don't call them winners but they also in the list of losers. If you withdraw your money when you win then consider it as a winner. As per me gambling should be played only for fun and entertainment and shouldn't be used or counted how many times we lost and wins.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: Maslate on November 09, 2016, 04:08:10 AM
I will say still large number of gamblers are winning often but if we compare this number with those who loose more then there will be difference. What I have seen in physical casinos many people wins in short term but they don't have full stop at their greed or limit of making money and they end at loosing.

You say at the end they lose back to the house for whatever reason than I don't call them winners but they also in the list of losers. If you withdraw your money when you win then consider it as a winner. As per me gambling should be played only for fun and entertainment and shouldn't be used or counted how many times we lost and wins.
It's just a temporary win but that is good for us as we do celebrate whenever we win. It is the happiest day of our lives when we win and though we lose in the long run but what is important is we can experience some win in our life also. If you want profit you invest in gambling sites and that is the only option.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: puremage111 on November 09, 2016, 04:10:48 AM
in a chinese quotes

10 people who bet, 9 loses, only 1 win

Well i guess its true, even most casino, betting edge is only 1%, because of human's nature, we tend to lose more than we win, else casino will not make profit


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: hawkins on November 09, 2016, 04:18:20 AM
in fact it was all different in each person. Well, there are people who always win because it has its own way of doing gambling, and there are many who always lose even in large numbers. very difficult to predict such things as gambling players prefer to enjoy every game they play from the count calculates a matter of win


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: wuvdoll on November 09, 2016, 09:09:26 AM
in a chinese quotes

10 people who bet, 9 loses, only 1 win

Well i guess its true, even most casino, betting edge is only 1%, because of human's nature, we tend to lose more than we win, else casino will not make profit
True. Because I am unable to remember when the last time I completed a day with gambling with profits. I remember I have made some profits in gambling but never finished a day and withdrawn profits. Maybe the reasons are failure of emotion control and being greedy, just to multiply my profits I was never successful to finish my gambling with profits.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: freedomgo on November 09, 2016, 10:17:57 AM
in a chinese quotes

10 people who bet, 9 loses, only 1 win

Well i guess its true, even most casino, betting edge is only 1%, because of human's nature, we tend to lose more than we win, else casino will not make profit
True. Because I am unable to remember when the last time I completed a day with gambling with profits. I remember I have made some profits in gambling but never finished a day and withdrawn profits. Maybe the reasons are failure of emotion control and being greedy, just to multiply my profits I was never successful to finish my gambling with profits.
That is because we do not have a proper game plan, and if we have we failed to follow it because we want to have a bigger win even having only a little amount of money. Don't worry man, I belong with the group, I am also a big loser in gambling and I think I will not ever win.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: Herbert2020 on November 09, 2016, 10:25:54 AM
these are mostly things that we have already known, at least those of us that have been gambling for a hile know this pretty well.

How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
New Data Provide Some Answers on the Real Odds for Gambling This really a nice article you people should read it.

But how often do gamblers really win? What are the chances that a gambler will win on a single day or over a longer period? Don't bother to ask the casinos.

i agree that it was a good article.
but i don't need an article nor i need to ask a casino to know how much gamblers win, i already have a feeling about that.

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On any given day, the chances of emerging a winner aren't too bad

well, that doesn't sound to be completely right because chances of winning or losing are always the same. you just don't feel the losses at first because there is still money in your pocket.

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But continuing to gamble is a bad bet.

that is another good point. no matter you win or lose you should stop before the big loss appears.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: xuan87 on November 09, 2016, 12:09:18 PM
The answer to the question is seldom, most of the time the gambler will lose, either it was lose due to the bad luck or didn't know when to stop, I can see more people become bankrupt rather than become rich in gambling, i think the casino had ways to earn profit from us, so that's why don't hope too high in gambling, and gamble with responsible


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: Golftech on November 09, 2016, 12:30:26 PM
The answer to the question is seldom, most of the time the gambler will lose, either it was lose due to the bad luck or didn't know when to stop, I can see more people become bankrupt rather than become rich in gambling, i think the casino had ways to earn profit from us, so that's why don't hope too high in gambling, and gamble with responsible
well its design to have an advantage agaisnt us but like what you've said if we are responsible and we know when to stop we can make a good position and we will possibly earn from gambling but since that greediness really eaten us we should know how to control that and begin to become a responsible gambler make some assessment if that wont work just stop and don't gamble anymore.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: goldcoinminer on November 09, 2016, 12:47:50 PM
The answer to the question is seldom, most of the time the gambler will lose, either it was lose due to the bad luck or didn't know when to stop, I can see more people become bankrupt rather than become rich in gambling, i think the casino had ways to earn profit from us, so that's why don't hope too high in gambling, and gamble with responsible
well its design to have an advantage agaisnt us but like what you've said if we are responsible and we know when to stop we can make a good position and we will possibly earn from gambling but since that greediness really eaten us we should know how to control that and begin to become a responsible gambler make some assessment if that wont work just stop and don't gamble anymore.
There's no room for greedy people in gambling if your aim is to make money, you will achieve the opposite as mot likely you will just be donating your hard earned money in bitcoin and what you will experience is just a temporary win. No method in gambling and pure emotions will make you lose.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: traderethereum on November 09, 2016, 12:55:56 PM
i think its difficult to say how often gamblers win because we can not predict when we are win or not and its depend on our luck on the games itself even for pro gamblers, they can not give the right answer because they only playing gambling and win the games so i think i am not sure about this.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: equator on November 09, 2016, 01:22:29 PM
How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
New Data Provide Some Answers on the Real Odds for Gambling This really a nice article you people should read it.

The casino billboards lining America's roadways tantalize with the lure of riches. "Easy Street. It's Only a Play Away," screams one in Arizona. "$7.1 Million Every Day. We're a Payout Machine," reads another.

But how often do gamblers really win? What are the chances that a gambler will win on a single day or over a longer period? Don't bother to ask the casinos. Although they gather vast quantities of data about their customers for marketing purposes, including win and loss tallies for many regulars, casinos keep such information a closely-guarded secret.

Now, thanks to an unprecedented trove of public data detailing the behavior of thousands of Internet gamblers over a two-year period, The Wall Street Journal can provide some answers.

On any given day, the chances of emerging a winner aren't too bad—the gamblers won money on 30% of the days they wagered. But continuing to gamble is a bad bet. Just 11% of players ended up in the black over the full period, and most of those pocketed less than $150. The skew was even more pronounced when it came to heavy gamblers. Of the top 10% of bettors—those placing the largest number of total wagers over the two years—about 95% ended up losing money, some dropping tens of thousands of dollars. Big losers of more than $5,000 among these heavy gamblers outnumbered big winners by a staggering 128 to 1. More: http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304626104579123383535635644

What this data is showing it is known to all gamblers but then also they are trying their luck but they just forget about playing for short time and when they go for long time they lose in the end.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: stomachgrowls on November 09, 2016, 01:24:46 PM
The answer to the question is seldom, most of the time the gambler will lose, either it was lose due to the bad luck or didn't know when to stop, I can see more people become bankrupt rather than become rich in gambling, i think the casino had ways to earn profit from us, so that's why don't hope too high in gambling, and gamble with responsible
Indeed  and just as expected on  gambling,  we cant  really  guarantee  profits on  it  and  in the  long run  most gamblers  would  surely experience loss  of  money  and   thats  the  reality   on   gambling  thats  why  we shouldnt  be  shocked  if  we  loss easily  on  it.  Winners  are  only few compare to lossers.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: carlisle1 on November 09, 2016, 02:06:55 PM
Maybe It can be possible that there's one or maybe more that two gamblers that can make gambling for a living but i don't have any idea on how often do gamblers win maybe they are having a day or week intervals before going back to gambling after the instances of winning .


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: Jemzx00 on November 09, 2016, 02:44:10 PM
i think its difficult to say how often gamblers win because we can not predict when we are win or not and its depend on our luck on the games itself even for pro gamblers, they can not give the right answer because they only playing gambling and win the games so i think i am not sure about this.
Yeah, Agreed that it's difficult to predict how often gamblers win since gambling is a luck based game. But for me, it's still depend on what kind of gambling game you are playing since there are other game that can be based on strategy too but still it needs luck. So yeah there would be no right answer to this. But remember that not all people care if they win or not since some of them just gamble for fun.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: 2double0 on November 09, 2016, 03:03:58 PM
i think its difficult to say how often gamblers win because we can not predict when we are win or not and its depend on our luck on the games itself even for pro gamblers, they can not give the right answer because they only playing gambling and win the games so i think i am not sure about this.
Yeah, Agreed that it's difficult to predict how often gamblers win since gambling is a luck based game. But for me, it's still depend on what kind of gambling game you are playing since there are other game that can be based on strategy too but still it needs luck. So yeah there would be no right answer to this. But remember that not all people care if they win or not since some of them just gamble for fun.

There are ways to determine this by classifying your bets and times if you are not lazy.
Seriously, you can do that by taking your profits and losses on one side and dates on the other, and see that which week made you how much profit/loss and you can see and decide that where and how you win or lose.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: shintosai on November 09, 2016, 03:11:41 PM
i think its difficult to say how often gamblers win because we can not predict when we are win or not and its depend on our luck on the games itself even for pro gamblers, they can not give the right answer because they only playing gambling and win the games so i think i am not sure about this.
Yeah, Agreed that it's difficult to predict how often gamblers win since gambling is a luck based game. But for me, it's still depend on what kind of gambling game you are playing since there are other game that can be based on strategy too but still it needs luck. So yeah there would be no right answer to this. But remember that not all people care if they win or not since some of them just gamble for fun.

There are ways to determine this by classifying your bets and times if you are not lazy.
Seriously, you can do that by taking your profits and losses on one side and dates on the other, and see that which week made you how much profit/loss and you can see and decide that where and how you win or lose.
same way when you are inside the trade you need to make some accounting things to verify and know which type of games you have a good edge and also to make much better assessment of some particular games that you really have good edge knowing this will make you easily to count if you gain profits or not.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: JasonXG on November 27, 2016, 06:19:20 PM
The amount of wins is equal to 50% - house edge. But this is the total wins not the total wins per person. See big winners win back the loses of the previous how ever many gamblers there were Eben though the stats are 50%- house edge. The money the house pays these people who win is the 50- house edge and the money they dont habe to pay to any winners is = the house edge. This is over long periods of time.

So of today a casino had 100k deposits and a house edge of 1 % then they make 1% of the 100k the rest is used to pay back winners.


Title: Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win?
Post by: futurebit640 on November 28, 2016, 05:22:09 AM
i think its difficult to say how often gamblers win because we can not predict when we are win or not and its depend on our luck on the games itself even for pro gamblers, they can not give the right answer because they only playing gambling and win the games so i think i am not sure about this.
Yeah, Agreed that it's difficult to predict how often gamblers win since gambling is a luck based game. But for me, it's still depend on what kind of gambling game you are playing since there are other game that can be based on strategy too but still it needs luck. So yeah there would be no right answer to this. But remember that not all people care if they win or not since some of them just gamble for fun.

There are ways to determine this by classifying your bets and times if you are not lazy.
Seriously, you can do that by taking your profits and losses on one side and dates on the other, and see that which week made you how much profit/loss and you can see and decide that where and how you win or lose.
same way when you are inside the trade you need to make some accounting things to verify and know which type of games you have a good edge and also to make much better assessment of some particular games that you really have good edge knowing this will make you easily to count if you gain profits or not.
The professional gamblers can maintain this balance sheet but we are just play gambling to have fun, so I think many people will not get time to maintain this detail. But according to me except few gamblers I can easily say that lot of gamblers are losing side including me it's just my opinion.